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Dell ST2421L 24" WLED Monitor - £175.20

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5y, 11m agoFound 5 years, 11 months ago
I've been hunting around for a 24" monitor for my room, and this looks like a brilliant deal. It doesn't look like it's on a sale currently, but at £175, it's a 24" WLED monitor from Dell so not bad at all.

Specifications:

Panel Size:
24" (60.96 cm)
Aspect Ratio
Widescreen (16:9)
Panel Type:
TN (Twisted Nematic), Non-glare
Maximum Resolution:
Full HD 1920 x 1080 @60 HZ
Contrast Ratio:
7,000,000:1 (estimated)
Brightness:
250 cd/m2 (typical)
Response Time:
5ms typical
Viewing Angle
(160 vertical / 170 horizontal)
Colour Support:
81% (CIE1976) / 68% (CIE1931)
Pixel Pitch:
0.277mm
Device Type
Full HD Monitor with LED

Connectivity:
VGA
DVI-D (HDCP)
HDMI

It also has anti glare which I hear is very useful.
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#1
Got pretty hot last time it was found at around this price a couple of months back
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-st2421l-24-61-cm-full-hd-wled-/808565
Don't forget any £back opportunities AND if buying from Small/Medium Business site it will NOT come with DSR rights as they only apply to consumers!
MKD

Edited By: mk-donald on Jan 04, 2011 19:30: £
#2
good deal
still only 1080p though
#3
watercooled
good deal
still only 1080p though

1080p is pretty standard for a 24" monitor isn't it? The occasional 24" has 1920 x 1200, but they're very expensive, like the Dell Ultrasharp U2410
2 Likes #4
watercooled
good dealstill only 1080p though

What were you expecting, the hanging gardens of Babylon?
#5
maybe a dumb question but with a freesat box would this work in a bedroom as a tv?

or should i just buy a tv?
#6
cartzuk
maybe a dumb question but with a freesat box would this work in a bedroom as a tv?

or should i just buy a tv?

yes it would, but just buy a tv.
#7
Cheap TN Screen. If you pay a bit more you can get a far superior IPS one.

Edited By: Rick Ward on Jan 04, 2011 22:29
#8
Rick Ward
Cheap TN Screen. If you pay a bit more you can get a far superior IPS one.


Could you point out some such screen, in that case?
#9
Rick Ward
Cheap TN Screen. If you pay a bit more you can get a far superior IPS one.


links pls
#10
You can get a 23" Ultrasharp IPS screen for about £250, but the vast majority of people don't need IPS at all, I mean, my current 8 year old dell monitor is absolutely fine for me.
#11
Deal has been posted a few times,I thought about this to replace my 5 year old Samsung Syncmaster but I'll probably wait and hope the U2311 comes down again from £250-260.
I do a bit of photoshop but mainly browsing, e-mail and watching video (streamed or downloaded) , any recommendations on 23-24 inch monitors or what I should be looking at would be appreciated :)
#12
Agharta
watercooled
good dealstill only 1080p though
What were you expecting, the hanging gardens of Babylon?


because 1080p is a con - its just a marketing ploy, monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.

buying a 1080p monitor is silly.
#13
rash
because 1080p is a con - its just a marketing ploy, monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.buying a 1080p monitor is silly.

It’s not a con or a marketing ploy but all about price. It’s more efficient to use 16/9 panels apparently so the price per screen is lowered.
That’s the way that market has gone which is normal as price generally rules unless you have access to Steve Job’s reality distortion field in which case Bob’s your Aunty.
#14
wouldn't something like this be better?

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?product_id=59345&tid=gsearch

Iiyama ProLite E2409HDS-1 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor - PLE2409HDS-1

I've had one of these for over a year and it's amazing quality. I use it as a general monitor (web browsing, photoshop, dvd's and videos etc) and for me, it's perfect. I was thinking of getting another one to use along side it, though any recommendations would be much appreciated :)
#15
cartzuk
maybe a dumb question but with a freesat box would this work in a bedroom as a tv? or should i just buy a tv?

Don't think it has speakers. You could add a speaker bar (atleast you can with my dell monitor), but then you'd still have no remote control for volume and power on/off. Given the deals on her for TV's recently, think you're best going for a tv.
#16
rash
monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.

Nah, they should give us back the full 4:3 format, which would be a fantastic 1920 x 1440. But they dont make them, so we have to live with stupid scroll bars everywhere. sigh.
#17
Agharta
rash
because 1080p is a con - its just a marketing ploy, monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.buying a 1080p monitor is silly.

It’s not a con or a marketing ploy but all about price. It’s more efficient to use 16/9 panels apparently so the price per screen is lowered.
That’s the way that market has gone which is normal as price generally rules unless you have access to Steve Job’s reality distortion field in which case Bob’s your Aunty.


I'm not sure if it's more efficient as such, I think it's just cheaper because a 24" 16:9 is a lot smaller than a 24" 16:10.
banned#18
dxx
I'm not sure if it's more efficient as such, I think it's just cheaper because a 24" 16:9 is a lot smaller than a 24" 16:10.

I wouldn't say it is 'a lot' smaller. Smaller, but barely.

It is because its more efficient. They are already churning out 24" panels for TV's in the bucketload at 1080p - so if they can have just one panel to produce, its much cheaper than producing two different panels at different resolutions and dimensions.
#20
Is this ST2420L not better value?
Appears to be almost identical spec, but costs only £149 after the £70 reward and recycle trade in.
Or do you have to pay for the carriage to send them that old hulk of CRT you pulled from a skip?
#21
I was looking for a 24 inch montor for a while and was considering this one. But I'm glad I went to the shops to look at some --- because I'm not sure I like the pictures on the LED monitors. They're too bright/sharp and the picture seems to lack the colour you get on a traditionall LCD. They use less power, but not good if it's annoying to look at. I'm now looking for a 24 inch LCD, until they get the technology of edge lighting sorted out properly - and they're cheaper too.
#22


You must be on £100 commission mamboboy :) the actual price on the site for this IPS monitor is £190
#23
Agreed with "jhw". There is just no way to buy a monitor through reviews. You must see it to decide. I personally don't want 100% color reproduction, or fancy led backlight. I want a monitor with supersharp images, and vivid colors. That's all!
#24
mamboboy
General PC users need not venture beyond TN panels IMO. IPS panels have no-to-impressive response times, and believe me... ghosting in games/movies will be FAR more annoying than the difference between 6-bit and 8-bit panels. That, and who plays games at extreme angles either? definitely not me or anyone I've ever seen playing games.

And from my quick price search, a 'bit more' is for this one at £383.29 + delivery:
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase4.5&prodID=B446673


Or £290 for an ex demo HP:
http://www.athema.co.uk/hp-vm633at-hp-zr24w-24-inch-wide-lcd-monitor-b-grade-graded.html


And those above will be the budget end IPS screens. For something decent you're looking at £500+



You can get IPS panels from £175 upwards.

If for example you work from home then an IPS panel will be easier on the eyes and so a much better bet... However if gaming is your bag then the cheaper but faster response TN panels will be better.. horses for courses...

Edited By: afroylnt on Jan 05, 2011 09:13
#25
Agharta
rash
because 1080p is a con - its just a marketing ploy, monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.buying a 1080p monitor is silly.
It’s not a con or a marketing ploy but all about price. It’s more efficient to use 16/9 panels apparently so the price per screen is lowered.
That’s the way that market has gone which is normal as price generally rules unless you have access to Steve Job’s reality distortion field in which case Bob’s your Aunty.

Ofcourse it's a marketing ploy! People who don't know that monitors 24" should have MORE pixels than 1080p will look at 1080p monitors and assume they are somehow better than those that don't say 1080p!!!!!

It's not somehow more 'efficient' to make 16:9 monitors - it's cheaper because they have less pixels. Thats the way the market has gone because people don't think. 1080p monitors for web browsing, office, dev work etc. are no good. And I'm sure people who do such work will agree.

I have an 24" VA Panel Yuraku and it's MUCH better than a 1080p monitor for working, those 230k pixels make a difference (120 x 1920 = ~230K)
#26
I'm looking for a new 24" monitor. Monitors are not necessarily an area where you pay more to get a better one - its more about getting the right panel type for your intended use.

Personally, mine will be for gaming, browsing, office & software development (in that order) so the cheaper TN panels are what I'm looking for. If I wanted colour representation (for graphical editing) or better viewing angles then I probably wouldnt go for a TN model. Also note I have two 19" IPS panels for my job as "daily drivers".

Personally, I was looking at two Samsung models - the P2450H (around £170) & the BX2450 (was under £200 before xmas & now £230+). I had pretty much decided to go for the latter for the LED backlight cost savings but don't want to pay the extra prices around now as opposed to a few days ago! (this site has made me tight!!!).

I will have a look at some reviews of this panel now too.

Dan
#27
rash
Agharta
rash
because 1080p is a con - its just a marketing ploy, monitors should be 1920 x 1200 because they are supposed to be designed for web browsing, office, dev work etc.buying a 1080p monitor is silly.

It’s not a con or a marketing ploy but all about price. It’s more efficient to use 16/9 panels apparently so the price per screen is lowered.
That’s the way that market has gone which is normal as price generally rules unless you have access to Steve Job’s reality distortion field in which case Bob’s your Aunty.


Ofcourse it's a marketing ploy! People who don't know that monitors 24" should have MORE pixels than 1080p will look at 1080p monitors and assume they are somehow better than those that don't say 1080p!!!!!

It's not somehow more 'efficient' to make 16:9 monitors - it's cheaper because they have less pixels. Thats the way the market has gone because people don't think. 1080p monitors for web browsing, office, dev work etc. are no good. And I'm sure people who do such work will agree.

I have an 24" VA Panel Yuraku and it's MUCH better than a 1080p monitor for working, those 230k pixels make a difference (120 x 1920 = ~230K)


It's more about economy of scale. If a factory is knocking out huge numbers of 16x9 panels for TV's then it makes sense to use the same stuff for monitors. 16x10 monitors have a high premium now for this reason - the panels are more likely dedicated for monitors which must have a smaller mainstream demand & do not benefit from economy of scale so costs more to produce. It's not a technical issue with cost per pixel.

At the end of the day, If you don't know the difference then it won't bother you. If you do understand the difference, then you have the info to make your own decision & you can buy a 16x10 if it is worth the current premium to you.
#28
btw - I didn't find many reviews, but I did find some comments to suggest this model is similar to the 23" version (ST2320L) & a review can be found here.

I'm no expert so don't take my word for it but based upon what I have googled, I would be looking at the similarly priced Sammy P2450H (although I will probably just wait for the BX2450 to come back down to sub £200).
#29
mamboboy
Or £290 for an ex demo HP:http://www.athema.co.uk/hp-vm633at-hp-zr24w-24-inch-wide-lcd-monitor-b-grade-graded.htmlAnd those above will be the budget end IPS screens. For something decent you're looking at £500+

Was about to buy that (for £190) but they've been changing the price and description for the past hour. Steering well clear now.
#30
mamboboy
afroylnt

You can get IPS panels from £175 upwards.


Please link me to a 24" IPS panel monitor for £175!

There's the refurb DELL 2209WA E-IPS monitors on eBay for £175, but then that is 'Economy-IPS' and not full-hd,e ither.


BenQ EW2420 - VA panel but better than TN
Del u2311h - IPS panel £258 now but was £200 one month ago on offer dell business (less in fact after quidco/offer codes)

or the HP one you pointed out at £190 plus vat
http://www.athema.co.uk/hp-vm633at-hp-zr24w-24-inch-wide-lcd-monitor-b-grade-graded.html (still has 2+ yrs manufacturers warranty)

This gets good reviews and is 1920 x 1200 as well...

Edited By: afroylnt on Jan 05, 2011 16:44: addn. info
#31
afroylnt

BenQ EW2420 - VA panel but better than TN



Note - horses for courses!

Despite glowing feedback for the BenQ EW2420, I found several reputable reviewers who do not wholeheartedly reccomended this model if gaming is to be the primary use. Just because it's a VA panel rather than a TN panel doesnt make it better - it depends upon the usage.


Edited By: Avezius on Jan 05, 2011 17:16
#32
mamboboy
General PC users need not venture beyond TN panels IMO. IPS panels have no-to-impressive response times, and believe me... ghosting in games/movies will be FAR more annoying than the difference between 6-bit and 8-bit panels. That, and who plays games at extreme angles either? definitely not me or anyone I've ever seen playing games.

And from my quick price search, a 'bit more' is for this one at £383.29 + delivery:
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase4.5&prodID=B446673


Or £290 for an ex demo HP:
http://www.athema.co.uk/hp-vm633at-hp-zr24w-24-inch-wide-lcd-monitor-b-grade-graded.html


And those above will be the budget end IPS screens. For something decent you're looking at £500+



No offence, but you are wrong.

You can get an IPS screen for under £200 from Viewpoint and they are very reliable and high quality.

I think the name is 2389wb or 2365wb. I'll see if I can find a link.

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