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DELL studio XPS for £805.82 is this good value?

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6y, 8m agoFound 6 years, 8 months ago
Hi Folks, Noob advice needed:-)
Looking at this system on the Dell EPP site. Is this good value or should i go down the self build route?
aside from the value point, i had concerns regarding the win 64 bit as all my apps are 32 bit. will i have issues

All advice welcome.. Thank you in advance

PROCESSOR StudioXPS 8100 - Intel Core i7 Processor 860 (2.80GHz, 8MB)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64bit- English
OFFICE SOFTWARE Microsoft® Works 9 - English
SERVICES AND SUPPORT 1 year of coverage included with your PC
PROTECT YOUR NEW PC McAfee® Security Centre 15 Month Protection
MONITOR Display Not Included
MEMORY 8192MB (4x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel Memory
HARD DRIVE 2TB Dual Hard Drive Raid 0 "Stripe" (2x1TB - 7200rpm)
GRAPHICS CARD Graphics Card - Single 1GB Nvidia GeForce GTS 240
OPTICAL DRIVE DVD +/- RW Drive (read/write CD & DVD) with Roxio Easy CD and DVD Burn software
KEYBOARD Dell Multimedia USB Keyboard Dual Tone - UK/Irish
MOUSE Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse
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#1
Presuming this is a desktop its a nice spec however nothing special, I reckon you could save a few quid building like for like or if you make an improved spec (my advise is to get rid of the crap GTS 240 and get a GTX260 with 768mb ram on it) you could at least break even with a miles better machine

For example triple channel memory with say 12gb similar spec processor but a 1366 socket rather than the cheaper (less likely to be around same amount of time and NOT as upgradable) 1156 that this will be (its designed for the budget to midrange machines)

I will get you more details in a minute with a similar/superior spec
#2
Intel Core i7 860 Lynnfield 45nm, Quad Core, 2.8GHz, DMI 2.5 GT/s, 8MB Cache, 21x Ratio, 95W, Retail £229
2x 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, DHX, 1.5V £118 (x2) (total 8gb unlike 12gb total below)
1GB Gainward GT 240, 1600MHz GDDR3, GPU 585MHz, Shader 1420MHz, 96 Cores, D-Sub/ HDMI/ DL DVI-I £78
Asus P7P55D-E LX, P55 Express, S1156, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 2200(OC), USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX £112 (max 4x memory so Total so far £655

Or


Intel Core i7 930 D0 SLBKP Bloomfield 45nm, 2.8 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail £228
2x 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.65V £136 (x2)(remember this is 6gb not 4gb as above)
896MB Asus GTX 260 Glaciator+ 55nm, 1998MHz GDDR3, GPU 576MHz, Shader 1242MHz, 216 Cores £162 (miles superior card more than capable of almost anything you can chuck at it at TOP END SETTINGS gaming wise)
DFI JR X58-T3H6, Intel X58, Sok1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1066/1333/1600, SATA 300, SATA RAID, mATX £117(This board will take 12GB currently and is maxed out at this until 4gb sticks come out then its 24gb max)
Total so far £779

Both of this lack hdds, optical drive case, psu and keyboard and mouse

Personally I would build myself I like to make sure I have room to upgrade good quality parts and I know EXACTLY what is in there the 2nd option is £120 or so more but 50% more ram superior motherboard/chipset class, more room for upgrade (24 not 16gb ram limit) and has a vastly superior graphics card, if your not into gaming replace the GTX260 with the GTX240 mentioned and that makes the price difference very small indeed for a superior spec

all prices off Scan's website just now to give you an example of comparison
#3
Regarding apps and 32-bit 64-bit

The modern day cpu is capable of both forms of processing, all 32-bit apps will still run as normal but you have the added benefit of 64-bit memory support (well more than 4gb) as well as the benefit that might arrise when they finally get some worthy 64bit apps

Something I didnt mention 12gb gives some nice new perks to Windows 7 feel free to google that one
#4
bought a dell i7 820 last week after reading one of the hot deal running windows 7 pro 64 bit no problems yet but have not put all my programs on from my old windows xp computer but i have read that they should all work and most programs in the future will be 64 bit
#5
Something I didnt mention 12gb gives some nice new perks to Windows 7 feel free to google that one[/QUOTE]

wish i had read this before i ordered my extra ram
#6
Superfetch FTW I know there will be some that say 8gb is enough, but I am a heavy user and 12gb did a miles better job for me than the 6gb I haf prior (cache more [programs and bigger ones to boot) which gives you a much smoother experience, even does this with games to a certain extent so loads faster
#7
Long answer short No.....
#8
Hondo
Long answer short No.....


lol so true but I always like to give an alternative, stops the onslaught of questions of WHY and points people in the right direction.
#9
Klansimpson
Intel Core i7 860 Lynnfield 45nm, Quad Core, 2.8GHz, DMI 2.5 GT/s, 8MB Cache, 21x Ratio, 95W, Retail £229
2x 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3-10666 (1333) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, DHX, 1.5V £118 (x2) (total 8gb unlike 12gb total below)
1GB Gainward GT 240, 1600MHz GDDR3, GPU 585MHz, Shader 1420MHz, 96 Cores, D-Sub/ HDMI/ DL DVI-I £78
Asus P7P55D-E LX, P55 Express, S1156, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 2200(OC), USB 3.0, SATA 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX £112 (max 4x memory so Total so far £655

Or


Intel Core i7 930 D0 SLBKP Bloomfield 45nm, 2.8 GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, 8MB Cache, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail £228
2x 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3, DDR3 PC3-12800 (1600) Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24, 1.65V £136 (x2)(remember this is 6gb not 4gb as above)
896MB Asus GTX 260 Glaciator+ 55nm, 1998MHz GDDR3, GPU 576MHz, Shader 1242MHz, 216 Cores £162 (miles superior card more than capable of almost anything you can chuck at it at TOP END SETTINGS gaming wise)
DFI JR X58-T3H6, Intel X58, Sok1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 1066/1333/1600, SATA 300, SATA RAID, mATX £117(This board will take 12GB currently and is maxed out at this until 4gb sticks come out then its 24gb max)
Total so far £779

Both of this lack hdds, optical drive case, psu and keyboard and mouse

Personally I would build myself I like to make sure I have room to upgrade good quality parts and I know EXACTLY what is in there the 2nd option is £120 or so more but 50% more ram superior motherboard/chipset class, more room for upgrade (24 not 16gb ram limit) and has a vastly superior graphics card, if your not into gaming replace the GTX260 with the GTX240 mentioned and that makes the price difference very small indeed for a superior spec

all prices off Scan's website just now to give you an example of comparison


Thank you for all the info and sound advice. My other man concerns with a self build were noise Could you recommend a quiet PSU and quiet CPU cooler for these options please.
Is your second selection a better choice should I wish to overclock?
#10
Regarding PSU and CPU cooling noise,

As long as you get a decent quality PSU, you should be fine, however I would recommend a 600w or higher as a minimum (again future proofing and giving you some scope to upgrade), if you are looking for a quite psu check the db rating on the psu's you are considering 22 or lower should be fine, obviously lower you get the better but tends to come at a premium for really quite psu's

Regarding CPU cooling, as long as the CPU you get is retail it should come with a heatsink, the intel fans are quite quiet these days so pretty much worth trying the stock cooler, again if your wanting to make sure you get a quiet one and don't mind buying a replacement cooler (OEM cpu save you a few quid probably 10+ towards new heatsink), then stick with a good brand, Akasa, Coolermaster, etc they will also have db rating

One piece of advise I would definitely recommend we all stick to as a golden rule when custom building your rig, make sure you check out the parts you are building a list of PRIOR to buying and check out plenty of reviews, last thing you wanna do is spend a fortune on your pride and joy and have a weak link that lets your machine down

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