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305-D044014 Home site - Best price £293.82 Delivered.
Vostro 400 DT (D044014)

Really needs this upgrade 16x DVD +/- RW Drive add £11.75

Intel® Core 2 Duo E4500 processor (2.20GHz, 800MHz, 2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Monitor Not included
3072MB 667MHz (2x1024 + 2x512) Memory
1.0TB (7200RPM) SATA Dual Hard Drives (2X500GB)
Integrated Intel Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
Dell Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse
Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Microsoft Works 9.0 - English
1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
48x CDRW/DVD Combo Drive
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#1
Good find... thanks Mike :)
#2
Pretty good, add a decent graphics card and that's a pretty decent desktop.
#3
This made me laugh.

For the processor it says:

Intel Core 2 Quad-Core Q6600 processor (2.40GHz, 1024MHz, 8MB cache) add £417.13

£417.13 !!!!!!!

Do you think they mean £147
#4
The price of the upgrade to the quad core q6600 must be wrong! i'm sure it retails at about 150 pounds
sorry we spotted at about the same time guilbert53

just spoken to dell chat - 417 is right!!!
#5
gsloman
just spoken to dell chat - 417 is right!!!


Dell chat can barely speak English, so I wouldn't take their word for it.
They probably had no idea what you were talking about.
[mod]#6
Adding the dvdrw on home site gets you to £305.57 but if you buy via the small business site its slightly cheaper at £304.40.
If you go for 3yrs on site warranty via small business site then the package costs £353.68 with the extra 2yrs warranty.
You could of course add a monitor instead of warranty and with SB free delivery kicking in at £299 pre VAT it might wet your apatite some.
[mod]#7
£397 will get you Dell 19" Value Wide Flat Panel (E198WFP) included on SB site.
#8
MikeT

Do you by any chance happen to know if the small business side of things offer customers the same type of protection - ie cooling off period ? T&Cs / FAQ make no mention of this

Cheers
#9
gsloman
The price of the upgrade to the quad core q6600 must be wrong! i'm sure it retails at about 150 pounds
sorry we spotted at about the same time guilbert53

just spoken to dell chat - 417 is right!!!


Dell always take advantage of the fact that the average consumer doesn't know th value of parts, and so they charge extortionate prices for accessories (look at their RAM prices!). But this one is taking the p**s even more than usual.
#10
guilbert53
This made me laugh. For the processor it says:
Intel Core 2 Quad-Core Q6600 processor (2.40GHz, 1024MHz, 8MB cache) add £417.13 Do you think they mean £147

Well they have to make up for the reduced revenue on the mispriced systems that we snap on on this site. :) So think of this as subsidising our bargains. :thumbsup:
#11
Any help appreciated. Choice of these two builds!

Catalog Number: 202 D044014
Module Description Show Details
Base Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 processor (2.20GHz, 800MHz, 2MB cache)
Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Memory 3072MB 667MHz (2x1024 + 2x512) Memory
Keyboard Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Monitor Dell™ 19" Value Wide Flat Panel (E198WFP) - UK/Irish
Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
Hard Drive 1.0TB (7200RPM) SATA Dual Hard Drives (2X500GB)
Floppy Drives and Additional Storage Devices 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
Mouse Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse
Modem No Modem
Optical Devices 16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Speakers Dell™ A225 Speakers
Shipping Documents English - Vostro 400 System Docs (UK power cord) & English Adobe
Gedis Bundle Reference D044014
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
Standard Warranty 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
Enhanced Service Packs 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
CompleteCare Declined CompleteCare
Protect your new PC No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Order Information Vostro Desktop Order - UK
Video Editing IEEE 1394 PCI Adapter card
Dell System Media Kit Vostro 400 Resource DVD (Diagnostics & Drivers)
Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order.

TOTAL :£374.50
with VAT £440

Catalog Number: 202 D045019A
Module Description Show Details
Base Intel® Viiv™ Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.2GHz,800MHz,2MB cache)
Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Memory 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
Keyboard Logitech™ Cordless Desktop™ MX®3200 (incl Mouse) - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Monitor Dell™ 20" Black Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish
Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator 3100
Hard Drive 500GB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
Floppy Drives and Additional Storage Devices 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
Mouse Mouse Included in Wireless Keyboard and Mouse option
Modem No Modem
Optical Devices DVD+/-RW & DVD Drives (read/write CD & DVD), 2 drives
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Speakers No Speakers
Shipping Documents English Documentation with UK/Irish Power Cord
Gedis Bundle Reference d045019a
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
Standard Warranty 1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Enhanced Service Packs 1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Protect your new PC No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Order Information Inspiron Desktop Order Uk
Video Editing IEEE 1394 PCI Adapter card
Dell System Media Kit Resource DVD - (Diagnostics & Drivers)
Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Support
Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order.

TOTAL Incl. VAT:£480.70
#12
would one of these + upgrade to 2400 Pro make a good HTPC ?

are they quite noisey or quite quiet ?

are these a better bet than the Inspirons ? which seem similar price for say a AMD 4800 X2

last query - can you order as a consumer on the business site ?
banned#13
Good deal tbh.
Well spotted
banned#14
Buckster
would one of these + upgrade to 2400 Pro make a good HTPC ?

are they quite noisey or quite quiet ?

are these a better bet than the Inspirons ? which seem similar price for say a AMD 4800 X2

last query - can you order as a consumer on the business site ?


Yes it would be fine, get a silent graphics card if it is just for HTPC, if cost is not an option, Gigabyte just released a nice beast with big heatsink cooling. if its just for HTPCing you can always change fans etc and make it quieter.

Haven't a clue if they are noisy or quiet, in my experience Dell are usually fairly quiet.

Much better than and AMD 4800 X2 (for upgrades too)

----- dont know the answer to the last question
[mod]#15
Forsaken;1802279
MikeT

Do you by any chance happen to know if the small business side of things offer customers the same type of protection - ie cooling off period ? T&Cs / FAQ make no mention of this

Cheers


2 of you have asked the same really and its a pretty common question in most SB site deals.
Dell have informed me by email when I asked that your dsr is the same when purchasing as an individual for home use from the SB site.
BUT their sales agents dont seem to always work from the same script and it can take a bit off effort trying to cancel a SB order.
My suggestion is to be sure that what your buying is what you want, the Vostro nbd warranty is very good, better than home site warranty, so just pick your deal carefully and work on the principle that once you order its what you really want to buy and you will be fine.
Dont order just to try it out and return it cause you will get grief.
#16
shame its got vista on it. roll on windows 7.
#17
nothing wrong with Vista

I find it superb - best OS I've used so far (Using Vista 64)
#18
Any idea on time scale of this deal? how long this going to be around for, looks like a really nice priced spec, with a few things to do to it in the future. Not sure i can get the money together! ukdeals makes me spend more money i swear!

quidco available on this?
#19
pluves1
Any help appreciated. Choice of these two builds!

Catalog Number: 202 D044014
Module Description Show Details
Base Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 processor (2.20GHz, 800MHz, 2MB cache)
Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Memory 3072MB 667MHz (2x1024 + 2x512) Memory
Keyboard Dell™ Entry Quietkey USB Keyboard - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Monitor Dell™ 19" Value Wide Flat Panel (E198WFP) - UK/Irish
Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100
Hard Drive 1.0TB (7200RPM) SATA Dual Hard Drives (2X500GB)
Floppy Drives and Additional Storage Devices 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
Mouse Dell 2 Button USB Optical Mouse
Modem No Modem
Optical Devices 16x DVD+/-RW & 16x DVD Drives
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Speakers Dell™ A225 Speakers
Shipping Documents English - Vostro 400 System Docs (UK power cord) & English Adobe
Gedis Bundle Reference D044014
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
Standard Warranty 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day
Enhanced Service Packs 1Yr Basic Warranty - Next Business Day Included - No Upgrade Selected
CompleteCare Declined CompleteCare
Protect your new PC No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Order Information Vostro Desktop Order - UK
Video Editing IEEE 1394 PCI Adapter card
Dell System Media Kit Vostro 400 Resource DVD (Diagnostics & Drivers)
Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order.

TOTAL :£374.50
with VAT £440

Catalog Number: 202 D045019A
Module Description Show Details
Base Intel® Viiv™ Core™ 2 Duo E4500 Processor (2.2GHz,800MHz,2MB cache)
Microsoft Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
Memory 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
Keyboard Logitech™ Cordless Desktop™ MX®3200 (incl Mouse) - UK/Irish (QWERTY)
Monitor Dell™ 20" Black Wide Flat Panel (E207WFP) - UK/Irish
Video Card Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator 3100
Hard Drive 500GB (7200rpm) SATA Hard Drive
Floppy Drives and Additional Storage Devices 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
Mouse Mouse Included in Wireless Keyboard and Mouse option
Modem No Modem
Optical Devices DVD+/-RW & DVD Drives (read/write CD & DVD), 2 drives
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel High Definition Audio
Speakers No Speakers
Shipping Documents English Documentation with UK/Irish Power Cord
Gedis Bundle Reference d045019a
Microsoft Application Software Microsoft® Works 9.0 - English
Standard Warranty 1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Enhanced Service Packs 1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
Protect your new PC No Security/Anti-Virus Protection - English
Order Information Inspiron Desktop Order Uk
Video Editing IEEE 1394 PCI Adapter card
Dell System Media Kit Resource DVD - (Diagnostics & Drivers)
Accidental Damage Support No Accidental Damage Support
Online Promotion Option for GEDIS Configs Dell Internet Order.

TOTAL Incl. VAT:£480.70


I'd go with the first one.

Buckster
nothing wrong with Vista

I find it superb - best OS I've used so far (Using Vista 64)


I second that statement. SP1 has definetly seen a performance boost for me.
#20
staples
Yes it would be fine, get a silent graphics card if it is just for HTPC, if cost is not an option, Gigabyte just released a nice beast with big heatsink cooling. if its just for HTPCing you can always change fans etc and make it quieter.

Haven't a clue if they are noisy or quiet, in my experience Dell are usually fairly quiet.

Much better than and AMD 4800 X2 (for upgrades too)

----- dont know the answer to the last question


You will have a job changing fans as Dells have non standard 4 pins on the CPU fan , the Vostros arnt quiet , a little bit noisy IMO although not extremely loud you can tell its on, its the power supply fan thats the noisy fan
[mod] 1 Like #21
This deal should be around until 2nd April when free shipping ends...(maybe as they keep extending that offer) and yes use quidco for 5%
If you dont upgrade to over £299 per vat then it should go till 6th April at least.
#22
what graphics cards will fit in these cheap dell pc's? do they have a 16x pci-e slot?
2 Likes #23
Buckster
are they quite noisey or quite quiet?

I wouldn’t class it as at all quiet when the system is heavily loaded as both the 80mm CPU fan & 92mm Case fan ramp their speeds significantly under load.
There is a simple and cheap solution to this though, replace both the fans with quiet 80mm models; the case is pre-drilled for 80 & 92mm fans. Novatech have very quiet Nexus 80mm fans which will cost you less than £9 for a pair of them delivered. Fortunately the power supply fan is already quiet so with this simple fan swap the system should be very quiet under all conditions.
If that is still too noisy due to the way the BIOS ramps fan speeds automatically then the next step is to buy a Zalman Fanmate and use it to reduce the voltage of the fans. They cost about £3 plus postage.

It’s not straightforward to use a fan controller with the Vostro 400 as most of them require a 4 pin molex power connector which the Vostro lacks; it has SATA power connectors only. Some fan controllers can take a floppy drive power connector which the Vostro does have.

Another way to help reduce noise in a Core 2 Duo system is to run RMClock as this utility allows you to lower the voltage of the CPU which helps keep the heat output down. A cooler running CPU is easier to cool quietly.
Note: You need to know what you are doing and how to test a system for stability if you start playing around with voltages.

The CPU heat-sink in the Vostro uses a non standard fitting so most heat-sinks are not compatible. Provided you are using a C2D and not a Quad my impression is that the heat-sink is a much better design than the stock Intel cooler and requires very little fan assistance to keep it adequately cooled. The main problem I see with the Vostro is that you are having to deal with the BIOS fan control which is not configurable. If you use a 3 pin fan on the CPU fan header which is 4 pin the BIOS seems to leave it alone. It always seems to control the case fan as it is 3 pin to start with.
#24
Buckster
would one of these + upgrade to 2400 Pro make a good HTPC ?

are they quite noisey or quite quiet ?

are these a better bet than the Inspirons ? which seem similar price for say a AMD 4800 X2

last query - can you order as a consumer on the business site ?


EDIT: SORRY MINE IS A VOSTRO 200: I have one. Very quiet except for initial boot-up noise. Have an Inspiron too and the Vostro is a far better looking/sturdier case but can't compare other than that as they have different specs. Yes, you can order on the business site. Sick your name under business name.
#25
kram
what graphics cards will fit in these cheap dell pc's? do they have a 16x pci-e slot?

Yes they do and the power supply has a 6 pin adapter to power one. The limiting factor will be the power supply but that should only become a problem if you want to use an 8800 GT or higher with a Q6600 or higher. I still think that will work but you are likely to start getting close to the limit of what the system can handle.
It’s best to do some research and choose a VGA card that isn’t a power hog. If you are keeping the E4500 then you have loads of headroom.
My parents have two of these and I tested power consumption with the E4500 under a full load and it measured 77.5W although I was undervolting it. Say its 90W without under-volting that equates to ~75W DC and the power supply is rated for 300W DC.

Note: Power supplies are rated for DC output not AC input. A 300W power supply ar full load will consume roughly 360W AC if measured at the wall socket.
#26
deanos
You will have a job changing fans as Dells have non standard 4 pins on the CPU fan

The Vostro 400 uses the standard 4 pin header for the CPU fan; this is the same for most motherboards these days. The 4 pin header is compatible with 3 pin fans and this certainly works with the Vostro as I have swapped out the fans.
With the Vostro, if you use a 3 pin fan that only has 2 wires, the 3rd wire is used to measure the fan speed, the BIOS will not recognise it and fail to boot the system. You have to hit F1 every time you turn on the PC and then it will continue to boot. There is no BIOS setting to disable this. I found out the hard way. :whistling:
#27
Agharta
I wouldn’t class it as at all quiet when the system is heavily loaded as both the 80mm CPU fan & 92mm Case fan ramp their speeds significantly under load.
There is a simple and cheap solution to this though, replace both the fans with quiet 80mm models; the case is pre-drilled for 80 & 92mm fans. Novatech have very quiet Nexus 80mm fans which will cost you less than £9 for a pair of them delivered. Fortunately the power supply fan is already quiet so with this simple fan swap the system should be very quiet under all conditions.
If that is still too noisy due to the way the BIOS ramps fan speeds automatically then the next step is to buy a Zalman Fanmate and use it to reduce the voltage of the fans. They cost about £3 plus postage.

It’s not straightforward to use a fan controller with the Vostro 400 as most of them require a 4 pin molex power connector which the Vostro lacks; it has SATA power connectors only. Some fan controllers can take a floppy drive power connector which the Vostro does have.

Another way to help reduce noise in a Core 2 Duo system is to run RMClock as this utility allows you to lower the voltage of the CPU which helps keep the heat output down. A cooler running CPU is easier to cool quietly.
Note: You need to know what you are doing and how to test a system for stability if you start playing around with voltages.

The CPU heat-sink in the Vostro uses a non standard fitting so most heat-sinks are not compatible. Provided you are using a C2D and not a Quad my impression is that the heat-sink is a much better design than the stock Intel cooler and requires very little fan assistance to keep it adequately cooled. The main problem I see with the Vostro is that you are having to deal with the BIOS fan control which is not configurable. If you use a 3 pin fan on the CPU fan header which is 4 pin the BIOS seems to leave it alone. It allows seems to control the case fan as it is 3 pin to start with.


Good information there, ty, have some rep.:thumbsup:
#28
OS question....Vista Premium includes ?

And will this have Windows Media Centre (with freeview) in it?
#29
is this really hot deal???? Vostro 400, same spec, posted by MikeT last month was almost £70 cheaper.
#30
http://hotukdeals.com/item/162761/dell-vostro-400-desktop-system-2-33/

posted by the same OP earlier seems like a better deal if you need a monitor as well

For £363 delivered ( thats only an extra £70)

you get these as standard.

1. Dell™ 19" Value Wide Flat Panel Monitor (E198WFP) quoted as £170 on the dell site :-( but should be worth at least £80 to £ 90

2. Includes a 16x DVD +/- RW Drive So you save the £11.75 upgrade

3. Faster processor
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6550 processor (2.33GHz, 1333MHz, 4MB cache) which is superior to
the £293 dealwhich has a slower processor Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 processor (2.20GHz, 800MHz, 2MB cache
costs £64.62 for the upgrade.


3. Includes a 128MB ATI® Radeon™ HD 2400 Pro graphics card which costs £47 for the upgrade according to the dell site. ( not Integrated Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator X3100 as in the £293 deal which uses shared memory.)

These upgrades are worth approx £290 if you go by dell prices

Drawbacks of my find( actually mikes earlier find :-) )are

1. Only 2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024) is included in the price.
you can upgrade it to
3072MB 667MHz (2x1024 + 2x512) Memory for only £ 27 in the deal

2. Hard disk is only 320 GB.


£290 (extra features)-£27( for memory upgrade)= £ 263

Thats £263 worth of upgrades for just £70. Even accounting for the slightly inflated dell prices this seems to be the better deal. True the hard drive will only be 320 GB but with the cost of external hard drives plummeting by the day is'nt it better to save almost £200 and buy an external hard drive if you run out of memory.
#31
The same deal was around a few weeks back, I got one and they are awesome. Makes a great server!

majoringram
#32
majoringram - quiet enough as a media centre would you say ?

how tall is it please ? and wide ? :)

cheers, Mark.
#33
I cant find my ruler! Its errr about just over a foot high and maybe a foot and 3/4 deep. 20cm wide? Im sure dimensions are on the dell site (no pun intended). When you turn it on it sounds like an aeroplane for about 5 secs then its really really quiet. Oddly quiet infact. I have it in my lounge and even when its doing really CPU intensive stuff like 3d rendering you can barely hear it.

hope this helps!

Majoringram
#34
was being lazy re the dimensions - will go look it up

glad to hear in normal use its quiet :) I suppose I could always hide it somewhere in the room anyway :)

cheers, Mark.
1 Like #35
Gemmzie
OS question....Vista Premium includes ?

And will this have Windows Media Centre (with freeview) in it?


It is not Vista Premium, it is Vista HOME Premium.

Yes it DOES have the Media Centre in it, as does Ultimate.

It is NOT in the Business edition of Vista.
#36
So I'd need to add Office 2007 separately? That's only £40 though.

Am very tempted by this offer, I don't know if I have the patience to upgrade my current computer - it's a bit of nightmare
#37
WOW! Cheap as chips.
#38
Quick question, if i choose vista business option/upgrade it says with vista ultimate how does that work as the review summary just shows vista business but do you get ultimat or just business?

Thanks in advance.
[mod]#39
Just business.
#40
Thanks:thumbsup: as it was highlighted in green i didnt understand what it was going to be and a little confusing for me:roll:

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