Dell XPS L501 Laptop £503.99 – i3-370M (2.40Ghz, 4Threads, 3M cache), Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit , 1GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 420M Graphics Card - £503.99 @ Dell - HotUKDeals
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Best deal i can find for a laptop with a good graphics card. if anyone can find a better one please let me know! use code:$TRPSQQ4T402DS on checkout to get this price

Metalloid Aluminum WLAN Cover
Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Word Starter, Excel Starter)
1 year of coverage included with your PC
No Accidental Damage Protection
McAfee® SecurityCenter 15 Month Subscription
Also Includes
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64bit
XPS L501x (UK, FCG01) – i3-370M (2.40Ghz, 4Threads, 3M cache)
1 year Collect & Return Hardware Support included with your PC
320GB (7,200rpm) Serial ATA Hard Drive
Internal Keyboard
XPS L501x Resource DVD (Diagnostic & Drivers)
Intel® Core™ i3-370M (2.4Ghz, 4Threads, 3M cache)
3072MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [1x2048 + 1x1024]
Intel® Centrino® Wireless-N 1000 (EUR)
1GB NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 420M Graphics Card
8x DVD+/-RW Optical Drive
1 Meter Power Cord
6-cell 56Whr Lithium Ion battery
Documentation
90W AC Adaptor
15.6 HD WLED TL (1366x768) 720p
XPS L501x Order - UK
N02XL510
No DataSafe Online Backup 2GB (Direct)
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#1
GT 420M is very good graphic card for notebooks (about 10% slower than HD5650)
Some game benchmarks:

Call of Duty: Black Ops high setting: 34.3 fps
Fifa 11 high setting: 84 fps
Mafia 2 medium setting: 31.6 fps
Resident Evil 5 high setting: 34.8 fps
F.E.A.R. 2 high setting: 39 fps
3DMark05 11000
3DMark06 6100
3DMark Vantage 2500

Very popular HD5470 scores only:
3DMark05 6300
3DMark06 3400
3DMark Vantage 945


Edited By: KRIS DEE on Apr 01, 2011 14:39: update
#2
Hi there, I've been specing a similar machine as well..

I know it's in another league but I would have a look at the vostro 3750, it's about £750 ish with a i5 sandy and a gt525..
Thats with all the codes floationg about, have a look at quidco if you are unsure of which one to use..

u also get 1600 x 900 antiglare screen..



Edited By: dromi on Apr 01, 2011 16:21
#3
KRIS DEE
GT 420M is very good graphic card for notebooks (about 10% slower than HD5650)
Some game benchmarks:

Call of Duty: Black Ops high setting: 34.3 fps
Fifa 11 high setting: 84 fps
Mafia 2 medium setting: 31.6 fps
Resident Evil 5 high setting: 34.8 fps
F.E.A.R. 2 high setting: 39 fps
3DMark05 11000
3DMark06 6100
3DMark Vantage 2500

Very popular HD5470 scores only:
3DMark05 6300
3DMark06 3400
3DMark Vantage 945



I'd be a bit wary of some of those figures. Eg. My L501x I7-Q740 (with the GT435 card) only achieves 27fps in the Mafia 2 benchmark at minimum settings (but with PhysX on).

The I3/GT420 combination would be quite a bit less than that.
#4
You can get this cheaper with a quidco voucher from their site but it runs out tonight.
#5
Dilbert
KRIS DEE
GT 420M is very good graphic card for notebooks (about 10% slower than HD5650)
Some game benchmarks:

Call of Duty: Black Ops high setting: 34.3 fps
Fifa 11 high setting: 84 fps
Mafia 2 medium setting: 31.6 fps
Resident Evil 5 high setting: 34.8 fps
F.E.A.R. 2 high setting: 39 fps
3DMark05 11000
3DMark06 6100
3DMark Vantage 2500

Very popular HD5470 scores only:
3DMark05 6300
3DMark06 3400
3DMark Vantage 945



I'd be a bit wary of some of those figures. Eg. My L501x I7-Q740 (with the GT435 card) only achieves 27fps in the Mafia 2 benchmark at minimum settings (but with PhysX on).

The I3/GT420 combination would be quite a bit less than that.

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and with physX off? probably in high 30s for those medium settings.
probably better to play the higher res with lower settings though.

no point in pointless comparisons
#6
brilly

and with physX off? probably in high 30s for those medium settings.
probably better to play the higher res with lower settings though.

no point in pointless comparisons


Even less point in groundless assumptions.

I ran the benchmark again, on minimum settings with no PhysX. It returned 33.1FPS and a rank score of D. This is with an I7 and a 435GT graphics card.

On that basis, I doubt that an I3/420GT will return only 2 fps less on medium settings.
#7
i see your point i suppose.
kris dees post reads as a comparison between 420m and 5470 to me rather than actual guaranteed
figures but i guess can be interpreted other ways.

the 31.6fps was on a i7-720 +gt420 (non-dell)
40.4fps came from a i7-840 + gt435 (xps)
these are using the same settings, not sure that those settings are the same as whatever benchmark you are using but seems you are getting too low if making a relevant comparison to those benches.
i suspect its a different benchmark as the results were chosen at medium rather than at low which gave a result of 47 for i7 +420, a minimum settings benchmark as you said you ran would correspend to that id have thought.
#8
brilly
i see your point i suppose.
kris dees post reads as a comparison between 420m and 5470 to me rather than actual guaranteed
figures but i guess can be interpreted other ways.

the 31.6fps was on a i7-720 +gt420 (non-dell)
40.4fps came from a i7-840 + gt435 (xps)
these are using the same settings, not sure that those settings are the same as whatever benchmark you are using but seems you are getting too low if making a relevant comparison to those benches.
i suspect its a different benchmark as the results were chosen at medium rather than at low which gave a result of 47 for i7 +420, a minimum settings benchmark as you said you ran would correspend to that id have thought.


I just ran the inbuilt Mafia 2 benchmark (in the Extras menu). The bonus is that even on the very lowest settings it is still an incredibly pretty game so there's no great loss in not having everything switched on.

This I3/420GT/3GB system actually costs a few quid more than I paid for mine (I7/435GT/4GB) which just shows what a good deal was on offer back in November.
#9
Dilbert
brilly
i see your point i suppose.
kris dees post reads as a comparison between 420m and 5470 to me rather than actual guaranteed
figures but i guess can be interpreted other ways.

the 31.6fps was on a i7-720 +gt420 (non-dell)
40.4fps came from a i7-840 + gt435 (xps)
these are using the same settings, not sure that those settings are the same as whatever benchmark you are using but seems you are getting too low if making a relevant comparison to those benches.
i suspect its a different benchmark as the results were chosen at medium rather than at low which gave a result of 47 for i7 +420, a minimum settings benchmark as you said you ran would correspend to that id have thought.


I just ran the inbuilt Mafia 2 benchmark (in the Extras menu). The bonus is that even on the very lowest settings it is still an incredibly pretty game so there's no great loss in not having everything switched on.

This I3/420GT/3GB system actually costs a few quid more than I paid for mine (I7/435GT/4GB) which just shows what a good deal was on offer back in November.

ok so your bench wasn't really a relevant comparison as i suspected.
was pretty sure the game ran fine (think managed on 1600*900 too) on my lower specced machine so just depends how much you want on/off and benches are only guides.

the initial xps launch price isn't really relevant either as was basically a one off - i still think it was a mistake no matter what people claim^^
#10
brilly

ok so your bench wasn't really a relevant comparison as i suspected.
was pretty sure the game ran fine (think managed on 1600*900 too) on my lower specced machine so just depends how much you want on/off and benches are only guides.


The relevance is this:

Kris Dee's benchmarks were posted as an indication of the graphics performance expected by a 420GT (i.e. in support of this deal).
They show that it could be expected to achieve 31.6 fps in Mafia at medium settings.
My real life experience with a much better specified XPS15 shows this not to be the case.

The fact is that an I3/420GT/3GB XPS15 will not match/outperform an I7/435GT/4GB which those benchmarks could lead a prospective buyer to believe.

Also, as the L502x is now out, I would imagine the prices for the L501x will start to drop.
#11
Any idea of the quality of these? I am in the market for a new laptop, but the low-end Dells I looked at in the shops were awful quality, very flexible and weak looking. I've heard XPS ones are better but not seen one in the plastic/metal.

I really want a laptop which is well-built and reliable with a good solid keyboard more than the latest spec. I was looking at Lenovo Thinkpads as they seemed right though expensive - am I on the right track there? Anyone know? Cheers.
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RSteve
Any idea of the quality of these? I am in the market for a new laptop, but the low-end Dells I looked at in the shops were awful quality, very flexible and weak looking. I've heard XPS ones are better but not seen one in the plastic/metal.

I really want a laptop which is well-built and reliable with a good solid keyboard more than the latest spec. I was looking at Lenovo Thinkpads as they seemed right though expensive - am I on the right track there? Anyone know? Cheers.


They are quite hefty compared with my old XPS M1530 and the build quality is pretty solid. The keyboard is excellent (the L502's are backlit though so maybe different) and it's very easy to type quickly on it. The lid appears plastic at first but apparently it's some kind of alloy and is more durable than you might think.

Plus points? It has a solid, good quality feel to it - much better than my wife's HP and her old Lenovo G something or other. The sound quality is amazing for a laptop.

Minus points? Although it is clearly an upgrade to the old XPS range, there have been cutbacks in the spec (i.e. no standard bluetooth, no remote, no fingerprint log in).

I'm glad I got mine at the early discounted price - and it gets 9/10 on that basis. Not sure I'd have liked to pay full whack for it though.
#13
I'm not sure if that 31.6 fps was inbuilt Mafia 2 benchmark
maybe averge fps in real game,
#14
Dilbert
RSteve
Any idea of the quality of these? I am in the market for a new laptop, but the low-end Dells I looked at in the shops were awful quality, very flexible and weak looking. I've heard XPS ones are better but not seen one in the plastic/metal.

I really want a laptop which is well-built and reliable with a good solid keyboard more than the latest spec. I was looking at Lenovo Thinkpads as they seemed right though expensive - am I on the right track there? Anyone know? Cheers.

They are quite hefty compared with my old XPS M1530 and the build quality is pretty solid. The keyboard is excellent (the L502's are backlit though so maybe different) and it's very easy to type quickly on it. The lid appears plastic at first but apparently it's some kind of alloy and is more durable than you might think.

Plus points? It has a solid, good quality feel to it - much better than my wife's HP and her old Lenovo G something or other. The sound quality is amazing for a laptop.

Minus points? Although it is clearly an upgrade to the old XPS range, there have been cutbacks in the spec (i.e. no standard bluetooth, no remote, no fingerprint log in).

I'm glad I got mine at the early discounted price - and it gets 9/10 on that basis. Not sure I'd have liked to pay full whack for it though.

thank you that's really, really helpful. Appreciate it.
#15
I have far higher spec Dell L501x for sale if anyone interested. I7 processor, 2gb GT435 graphics, 4GB DDR3 ram
#16
Only £473.99 now
#17
Dilbert
brilly

ok so your bench wasn't really a relevant comparison as i suspected.
was pretty sure the game ran fine (think managed on 1600*900 too) on my lower specced machine so just depends how much you want on/off and benches are only guides.


The relevance is this:

Kris Dee's benchmarks were posted as an indication of the graphics performance expected by a 420GT (i.e. in support of this deal).
They show that it could be expected to achieve 31.6 fps in Mafia at medium settings.
My real life experience with a much better specified XPS15 shows this not to be the case.

The fact is that an I3/420GT/3GB XPS15 will not match/outperform an I7/435GT/4GB which those benchmarks could lead a prospective buyer to believe.

Also, as the L502x is now out, I would imagine the prices for the L501x will start to drop.

its still not actually relevant imo as mafias OWN benchmark isnt relevant.
you use benchmark of minimum settings on mafia on a much stronger machine and say that it can barely play mafia.
this suggests that mafia wont be able to be played on the OPs machine which is quite frankly a joke as you yourself know.
#18
brilly

its still not actually relevant imo as mafias OWN benchmark isnt relevant.
you use benchmark of minimum settings on mafia on a much stronger machine and say that it can barely play mafia.
this suggests that mafia wont be able to be played on the OPs machine which is quite frankly a joke as you yourself know.


Mafia's own benchmark isn't relevant? A scene from the actual game played out and recorded isn't relevant? Come on!

Anyway, my suggestion is not a joke. Mafia on an I7 XPS 15 will not hit a solid 30fps at anything other than minimum settings. This is my 'real world experience' and It's not just me that says it.

Anandtech reviewed the L501x and said this "Mafia 2 tops out at just 32FPS, running minimum detail settings and 768p; at 1080p the frame rate drops down to just 19.3FPS. Metro 2033 is even worse, starting at a less than impressive 24FPS at 768p with DX10 "Low" settings and dropping to just shy of 16FPS at 1080p."

If you think an I3 will do better then good luck!

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