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Denon AVR-1610 HDMI AV Receiver Only £249.95 @RicherSounds (Instore)/£274.90 with 5 Year Warranty

£249.95 @ Richer Sounds
Blurb Taken from Creative-Audio.co.uk which pretty much sums up this Great Receiver : "With all the emphasis being placed on the award-winning Denon AVR-1910, it's fair to say that its baby brother… Read More
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7y, 3m agoFound 7 years, 3 months ago
Blurb Taken from Creative-Audio.co.uk which pretty much sums up this Great Receiver :

"With all the emphasis being placed on the award-winning Denon AVR-1910, it's fair to say that its baby brother, the 1610, has somewhat slipped under the radar. In a sense this is a bit crazy, because anyone who takes the time to compare the two, will realise that the 1610 is not a million miles away from the 1910, so if the 1910 is such a clear winner in its class, then the same must equally be true for the 1610!

And it is - the 1610 sounds better than anything else at its price point, sports HDMI video upconversion (which its rivals don't have) and ticks enough boxes on the connectivity front to satisfy all but the most demanding Home Cinema enthusiast. What's more, it's built to a standard that no similarly prices amp can match - weighing in at one and a half stone! For those in the know, this is an excellent budget choice."

Been watching the price of this yo-yo up and down from the RRP of £349.99, but never seen it this low anywhere!....next best price is £279.99.

Bearing in mind that OFFICIALLY Denon do not condone mail order on their products, this is an instore purchase only, however price of the item instore shows at £269.95, so you have to quote that its £249.95 online.

Add in a 5 year warranty for peace of mind, for just £24.95 and for just shy of £275 you have one great sounding budget HDMI Receiver for your money for sure!
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#1
Dolby True HD, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS HD decoding

Dolby Digital and DTS decoding

Dolby Digital EX, Pro Logic IIx decoding with Cinema and Music Modes

DTS-ES Matrix & Discrete 6.1 decoding

DTS Neo:6 Cinema & Music Surround decoding

75wpc A/V Receiver

3x HDMI inputs

HDMI 1.3a Inputs with up conversion to HDMI
Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume

Built in RDS FM/AM Tuner with 40 presets

Pure Audio Mode

Advanced 32bit DSP chip

Power Output 75wpc @ 8ohms, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD

Power Supply AC 230V, 50Hz

AVR-1610 Dimensions Width 434mm

Height 171mm

Depth 377mm

Weight 9.2kg

http://www.avland.co.uk/aasp/denon/0920/avr1610/avr1610.jpg
#2
What speakers would go best with this?

How does the HDMI work, Would you plug in your PS3/Blu Ray Player into this then from that into the TV?
#3
any idea how it performs musically?

i really want a receiver but i don't really have room for an amp and a receiver.
1 Like #4
Rubix78
What speakers would go best with this?

How does the HDMI work, Would you plug in your PS3/Blu Ray Player into this then from that into the TV?


Yes, you program in the settings that you want HDMI audio fed through from your PS3 as well as the Blu Ray Player, if its an old phat PS3 you would need the settings on your PS3 as PCM, if a newer one set it to bitstream.

As for speakers, as Denons are renowned for their warm sound, you would want to use speakers that are either neutral sounding or edging towards the bright end to compensate, if you had speakers that are classed as warm, then in theory you can end up with a "muddy" sound, this is all subjective though, and open to interpretation...as for recommending speakers, I am not sure what budget you have...I use Mission speakers, they are neutral sounding.

As a rule - Bright amps match with warm speakers, Warm amps match with neutral or bright speakers.
#5
zurich
any idea how it performs musically?

i really want a receiver but i don't really have room for an amp and a receiver.


Thats why I like Denon, unlike Sony and Onkyo which are bright and clinical, Denon edge for warmth, this and the 1910 are probably the best in their classes for music on top of movies....probably the best balanced receivers out there (although I am sure some others will disagree!)
#6
We have this and it does sound awesome. Got the Airport for the Apple TV thing so play music and the movies through it.
#7
Does it come with a remote?

Silly question, sorry
#8
allydenton
Does it come with a remote?

Silly question, sorry


Yes of course it does, to help with the wealth of options, the remote control also can act as a Universal Remote, enabling controlling of your TV and DVD/Blu Ray Player.

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page/RC1120_AVR1610_500.jpg

It also comes with a room microphone which you plug in and position at ear level within your listening position to setup speaker parameters.
#9
Does this upscale at all?
#10
rozza38
Does this upscale at all?


Doesn't upscale (but there again, as stated on many a forum, unless you are spending mega bucks on AV Receivers, the upscaling usually is substandard to what your tv is anyway) but what it does do that other similar priced AV Receivers do not do is actually convert to HDMI Component and Composite Inputs, therefore you could take a Component Connection from a Wii, input it through this receiver, and output over HDMI.
#11
Bargain, saving £50 on most places, have some heat. If only the amp I want was this cheap :cry:
#12
Fantastic, dropped £30 from £279.99. I have my eye on one of these when I move out next month to replace my Sony DG820 amp. This is even more tempting at this price!
1 Like #13
correction £274.90 with 5 year guarantee.
#14
furber
correction £274.90 with 5 year guarantee.


Thanks for noticing my typo in the header, corrected, rep added. :)
#15
cicobuff
Yes, you program in the settings that you want HDMI audio fed through from your PS3 as well as the Blu Ray Player, if its an old phat PS3 you would need the settings on your PS3 as PCM, if a newer one set it to bitstream.

As for speakers, as Denons are renowned for their warm sound, you would want to use speakers that are either neutral sounding or edging towards the bright end to compensate, if you had speakers that are classed as warm, then in theory you can end up with a "muddy" sound, this is all subjective though, and open to interpretation...as for recommending speakers, I am not sure what budget you have...I use Mission speakers, they are neutral sounding.

As a rule - Bright amps match with warm speakers, Warm amps match with neutral or bright speakers.


So let me just get this right.

I can plug my PS3 and my Xbox into this system then HDMI from this into the TV?
If so do you lose any picture quality?
#16
Rubix78
So let me just get this right.

I can plug my PS3 and my Xbox into this system then HDMI from this into the TV?
If so do you lose any picture quality?


No no picture quality loss at all, it feeds the HDMI audio and video, decodes the 5.1 outputs across all the speakers connected to the receiver, and feeds the video (acts as a HDMI video switcher).

It will also take component and composite inputs, and whilst not upscaling them, it will transmit those over HDMI as well, so literally depending on how much cabling you have got, you can feed your inputs through this receiver and literally only have one HDMI cable from the receiver going into the back of your tv, no other receiver for this price has this ability.
#17
cicobuff
No no picture quality loss at all, it feeds the HDMI audio and video, decodes the 5.1 outputs across all the speakers connected to the receiver, and feeds the video (acts as a HDMI video switcher).

It will also take component and composite inputs, and whilst not upscaling them, it will transmit those over HDMI as well, so literally depending on how much cabling you have got, you can feed your inputs through this receiver and literally only have one HDMI cable from the receiver going into the back of your tv, no other receiver for this price has this ability.


Thank you, you have been most helpful
#18
Rubix78
Thank you, you have been most helpful


No problem, for any AV Receiver information, its worth checking out avforums.com.
#19
what speakers would anyone recommend for this receiver? i know you mentioned warm but make and model number would be really helpful

many thanks
#20
allydenton
what speakers would anyone recommend for this receiver? i know you mentioned warm but make and model number would be really helpful

many thanks


100% i would recommend these! HARMAN KARDON HKTS7 i have just bought a set and they are so clear and precise :thumbsup:
#21
allydenton
what speakers would anyone recommend for this receiver? i know you mentioned warm but make and model number would be really helpful

many thanks


No not warm exactly the opposite. The receiver is warm therefore avoid warm speakers. Kefs tend to be fairly neutral they might be a good match, other than that checkout some reviews online (What Hi-Fi etc.), poke around on AVForums and most importantly get yourself to a specialist shop (Sevenoaks, Super-Fi etc.) and have a listen to see what you like.
#22
cicobuff
No no picture quality loss at all, it feeds the HDMI audio and video, decodes the 5.1 outputs across all the speakers connected to the receiver, and feeds the video (acts as a HDMI video switcher).

It will also take component and composite inputs, and whilst not upscaling them, it will transmit those over HDMI as well, so literally depending on how much cabling you have got, you can feed your inputs through this receiver and literally only have one HDMI cable from the receiver going into the back of your tv, no other receiver for this price has this ability.


can it transmit rgb through hdmi also??
#23
My Denon 1908 sounded great with Jamo a102's, they are wife friendly too...I'll find a pic.


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3797/avsetup2004.jpg
#24
cicobuff
No no picture quality loss at all, it feeds the HDMI audio and video, decodes the 5.1 outputs across all the speakers connected to the receiver, and feeds the video (acts as a HDMI video switcher).

It will also take component and composite inputs, and whilst not upscaling them, it will transmit those over HDMI as well, so literally depending on how much cabling you have got, you can feed your inputs through this receiver and literally only have one HDMI cable from the receiver going into the back of your tv, no other receiver for this price has this ability.


Rep to cicobuff for probably the most helpful and well informed deal ive ever seen on here. Great deal, thanks for your efforts.
#25
megalomaniac
No not warm exactly the opposite. The receiver is warm therefore avoid warm speakers. Kefs tend to be fairly neutral they might be a good match, other than that checkout some reviews online (What Hi-Fi etc.), poke around on AVForums and most importantly get yourself to a specialist shop (Sevenoaks, Super-Fi etc.) and have a listen to see what you like.


I use Kefs with my Denon and can agree they are a good match, My kefs tend to edge towards being slightly bright so they compliment the denon perfectly Imo.
#26
allydenton
what speakers would anyone recommend for this receiver? i know you mentioned warm but make and model number would be really helpful

many thanks


As others have said, not warm at all, I did mention if you read I said that Denon amps themselves are warm as opposed to bright which Sony and Onkyo tend to be. In theory you can get an overly warm "muddy" sound matching warm amps and warm speakers, therefore its recommended to go for neutral or bright speakers. I said personally I use Mission Speakers (Volare range) which are classed as neutral.

How can anyone mention a make and model number without even knowing what budget? Your best bet is to read and look at peoples opinions on AV Forums, all dependent on your budget, you can learn a lot there. :)
#27
great price for what i've been waiting for ages! I wanted one for 199 as the main thing I wanted was the upconversion of all analog to HDMI!
1 Like #28
gazter
can it transmit rgb through hdmi also??


Well it cannot take RGB in the form of SCART, as it has no SCART inputs, however its upconversion of composite would mean you could get a SCART to RCA Adaptor block (if your device doesn't already have a composite output) and connect the Yellow RCA for Video. It does also have just one S-Video input which it can also upconvert to HDMI. How well it upconverts from composite I do not know as yet as I am decorating so have not set it up as yet, over to any other Denon owners that know....... :)

http://img.tomshardware.com/de/2005/11/16/das_grosse_thg_stecker_kompendium/scart2.jpg
#29
AddictWeb
Rep to cicobuff for probably the most helpful and well informed deal ive ever seen on here. Great deal, thanks for your efforts.


Appreciated, thanks mate :)
#30
Max-Power
great price for what i've been waiting for ages! I wanted one for 199 as the main thing I wanted was the upconversion of all analog to HDMI!


Unfortunately its not £199!..it's currently the cheapest Receiver I have found out there that upconverts, and to boot its meant to be good with music too.

If you are only after 5.1 (and most people in the UK with smaller rooms are anyway!) then its a steal at this price, £150 cheaper than its bigger brother.
#31
Maybe throwing a spanner in the works here but I got my Onkyo 607 a couple of weeks ago from Richer Sound for only £299 which upscales component, composite, etc so that my Wii is plugged into it and only a single HDMI goes to my TV.

Wouldn't people be better off spending the extra bit of cash?
#32
kemik
Maybe throwing a spanner in the works here but I got my Onkyo 607 a couple of weeks ago from Richer Sound for only £299 which upscales component, composite, etc so that my Wii is plugged into it and only a single HDMI goes to my TV.

Wouldn't people be better off spending the extra bit of cash?


You can plug a Wii into this and only a single HDMI goes into the TV...it offers analogue to HDMI Upconverting (no upscaling)

Depends what you want, it's now gone up to £320, bang for buck undeniably the Onkyo 607 is a bargain offering more inputs and 7.1, but without wanting to sound unkind (it is a great bargain for the price) the build quality of the Onkyo is not of the same standard, and Denons are better tuned for music.

As for upscaling, reading on AV Forums, with cheaper receivers your TV does a better job of upscaling anyway, owners of the 607 have reported its a poor upscaler.

I contemplated spending more and getting the 607, but the heat issues of the upscaling circuitry put me off, along with the fact I wanted a receiver that does around a 70:30 Music:Home Cinema mixture, and do not have the size room, or the spare cash for a 7.1 system.

So for me, why spend more for something that isn't as musical, if you want a home cinema amp, a 7.1 setup thats primarily for movies, and have the space to allow cooling as well as fitting a fan, then the 607 is a great buy.

I am replacing an older Sony DB-790 (and do Sony not build them like they used to 6 years ago), and wanted a warm inviting sound musically, so Denon was the perfect choice for me.
#33
cicobuff
, and do not have the size room, or the spare cash for a 7.1 system.

.


A lot of people use the extra 2 channels to bi-amp the fronts which improves musical quality immensely IMO.
#34
danny-mac
A lot of people use the extra 2 channels to bi-amp the fronts which improves musical quality immensely IMO.


The Onkyo 607 is £70 more and regardless of being able to bi-amp still doesn't change the fact it's an Onkyo receiver (bright sounding) My next in choice was the Denon 1910, its £150 more, £80 more than the Onkyo, I am happy with my £275 spend with 5 years warranty.
#35
was tempted to get this one on release but the price put me off, great price now tho!
#36
Been a member of AV Forums for about 7 years but I take my hat off to the OP here, superb advice. Maybe you can help me. Would I see a benefit aside from cabling the HDMIs into it from my Denon AVR-2106? Looks like mine will draw around £100 on ebay so is the £150 upgrade cost a good one?
#37
cicobuff
The Onkyo 607 is £70 more and regardless of being able to bi-amp still doesn't change the fact it's an Onkyo receiver (bright sounding) My next in choice was the Denon 1910, its £150 more, £80 more than the Onkyo, I am happy with my £275 spend with 5 years warranty.


LOL calm down, I didn't say it was a bad deal, I added heat a long time ago.

A five year gaurantee is a must with these amps, my Denon only has the manufacterers 2 year one which runs out in a few months. It has been sent back and forth for repair 3 times already and the volume knob is playing up now.
1 Like #38
jan08
Been a member of AV Forums for about 7 years but I take my hat off to the OP here, superb advice. Maybe you can help me. Would I see a benefit aside from cabling the HDMIs into it from my Denon AVR-2106? Looks like mine will draw around £100 on ebay so is the £150 upgrade cost a good one?


Only really of benefit to you mate if you are also planning on upgrading to take advantage of the enhanced audio it provides being able to internally encode Dolby True HD if you have either or both a Blu Ray Player or HD DVD Player.

However, there are Blu Ray as well as HD DVD Players out there that have multi channel outputs, that can feed the uncompressed True HD audio through via your multi channel analogue inputs on your Denon AVR-2106, meaning you don't necessarily have to upgrade you can take that path.

Bearing in mind your Denon AVR-2106 is a 7.1 channel amplifier with more inputs than this Denon (in that sense its a step down) however it depends what convience you want, and/or if you want the ability to decode over HDMI a True HD stream from a Blu Ray or HD DVD Player.

The old addage really of technological advances and convenience, if you are tired of having seperate optical/coaxial inputs on all devices and a spaghetti junction of wires going everywhere then an upgrade to a HDMI Receiver with True HD encoding is a worthwhile upgrade. However either the Denon 1910 would be more of a direct "upgrade" from what you have, upon saying that, is a 7 channel setup necessary? Do you use 7.1? Do you bi amp the front speakers if not?

So to summarise, it may or may not depending on your circumstances, and convenience, if you do decide on a HDMI Receiver to replace your clutter, and enhance your Blu Ray/HD DVD Home Cinema experience, then the only other option is to consider if a 5.1 Receiver like this would suffice, else the Onkyo 607 (not as musical but 7.1, runs hot, but bang for buck for £320 is good) or the Denon 1910 (the big brother of the 1610, one extra hdmi socket, slightly higher wattage, and 7.1 and £150 more at £399) are your best choices in comparison to what you have now :)
#39
danny-mac
LOL calm down, I didn't say it was a bad deal, I added heat a long time ago.

A five year gaurantee is a must with these amps, my Denon only has the manufacterers 2 year one which runs out in a few months. It has been sent back and forth for repair 3 times already and the volume knob is playing up now.


That's not very reassuring! Which Denon model? :)
#40
cicobuff
Only really of benefit to you mate if you are also planning on upgrading to take advantage of the enhanced audio it provides being able to internally encode Dolby True HD if you have either or both a Blu Ray Player or HD DVD Player.

I have a fat PS3 which I believe can output TrueHD although I must admit I'm not too concerned with that aspect as I mostly use my Mac Mini and Plex for High Def viewing

cicobuff
is a 7 channel setup necessary? Do you use 7.1? Do you bi amp the front speakers if not?

No to both of these, I just got the best amp I could with my budget when I bought it. So 1 5.1 amp is perfectly fine for me.

Thanks very much for the advice. I'm going to try get rid of the 2106 I think and get one of these. I did the same thing with my TV last week. Sold my 42" PX60 for the Richer SOunds deal on the 50" S10. One last thing (and sorry to everyone else for being boring). Will the KEF 2005.3's be a good match for it? I currently have the huge Acoustic Energy Evo Speaker Package and the missus has given me the order for them to go in the lounge decorations!

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