Dentyl mouthwash 500ml all varieties mint, clove & new citrus flavour £2.90 BOGOF = £1.45 each - HotUKDeals
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Morrisons are doing the 500ml bottles of Dentyl mouthwash on buy one get one free.

This is about as good as it gets guys!
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#1
sorry, no direct link as this is instore only ( i believe?)
#2
great deal, never seen this on bogof before!! voted hot
#3
as an alternative these are 2 for £3.05 instore at tesco...not sure if still available online too..
#4
It contains triclosan just do a google on it

"United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has registered it as a pesticide"

http://www.health-report.co.uk/triclosan.html

I used to use it but afer reading that , its put me off somewhat
#5
our dentist highly recommended it, but don't like the sound of that report
#6
cool :)
#7
deanos
It contains triclosan just do a google on it

"United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has registered it as a pesticide"

http://www.health-report.co.uk/triclosan.html

I used to use it but afer reading that , its put me off somewhat


Well, that site looked a bit fishy - I looked at the Wikipedia article they reference, and they've missed bits out. For example, this section on the site:

http://www.health-report.co.uk/triclosan.html
Triclosan reacts with the free chlorine in tap water to also produce lesser amounts of other compounds, like 2,4-dichlorophenol (PMID 15926568). Most of these intermediates convert into dioxins upon exposure to UV radiation (from the sun or other sources). Although small amounts of dioxins are produced, there is a great deal of concern over this effect because dioxins are extremely toxic and are very potent endocrine disruptors. They are also chemically very stable, so that they are eliminated from the body very slowly (they can bioaccumulate to dangerous levels), and they persist in the environment for a very long time.


is on Wikipedia as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triclosan
Triclosan reacts with the free chlorine in tap water to also produce lesser amounts of other compounds, like 2,4-dichlorophenol.[17] Most of these intermediates convert into dioxins upon exposure to UV radiation (from the sun or other sources). Although small amounts of dioxins are produced, there is a great deal of concern over this effect because some dioxins are extremely toxic and are very potent endocrine disruptors. They are also chemically very stable, so that they are eliminated from the body very slowly (they can bioaccumulate to dangerous levels), and they persist in the environment for a very long time. However, dioxin is not one compound, but a family of compounds of widely ranging toxicity. The dioxin compound that formed when triclosan degraded in sunlight is not a dioxin of public health concern.


I've emphasized the part missed out. I do accept that this could have been added to Wikipedia after the reference was taken, but as they don't say when the article was published it's hard to say.

Anyway, if you look on their home page, they're actually selling Organic Health products and are touting an "Organic Business Opportunity", so I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
#8
There is a new citrus flavour too, as part of the deal.
#9
Effortlessnow
There is a new citrus flavour too, as part of the deal.


Thanks for that :) ive now updated the title to include this
#10
Hmm .. triclosan or no triclosan .. hard choice!

Just brush properly guys! If you brush well, you shouldn't need this stuff!
#11
this is usually £1.99 in Home Bargains, and just over £3 in Boots. Got some yesterday, but don't get to Morrisons very often.
#12
I can't remember which flavour I had before, but it was absolutely horrible.
#13
aj8973
I can't remember which flavour I had before, but it was absolutely horrible.


I bet it was the clove one, That is horrible but i liked the mint so got bogof on them.
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deanos
It contains triclosan just do a google on it

"United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has registered it as a pesticide"

http://www.health-report.co.uk/triclosan.html

I used to use it but afer reading that , its put me off somewhat


I study chemistry, and in my opinion the risk from this chemical is very very minor. And of course it is a labelled a pesticide, many things are. Guess what: it's anti-bacterial, and thus toxic to bacteria. People shouldn't chuck around terms with specific scientific meanings if they doing know what they mean.

Guess what? Bananas emit slightly higher levels of radiation than other fruit, and you are ingesting it. Never mind that it's still utterly negligible. And burnt toast is a carcinogen.
#15
There are plenty more articals not just that one about Triclosan that i first linked to, even if there is a small risk i would rather not have it , until prooved either way

http://www.beyondpesticides.org/pesticides/factsheets/Triclosan%20cited.pdf

http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/10-04/triclosan-article.htm
#16
ian13
I study chemistry, and in my opinion the risk from this chemical is very very minor. And of course it is a labelled a pesticide, many things are. Guess what: it's anti-bacterial, and thus toxic to bacteria. People shouldn't chuck around terms with specific scientific meanings if they doing know what they mean.



To acknowledge that there is a risk and write what you've written and STILL use the product is beyond me...

When dealing with my own health, I will want to mitigate or reduce the risk to As Low As Reasonably Practical.

There's clearly a choice of products out there, some with alleged or inconclusive evidence of being a carcinogen and some without. I don't know about you, but i know which one i'll choose.

And with regards to burnt toast - that's why i don't burn my toast or burn my food.
#17
komakino
Sunlight causes cancer but you still go outside. Benzene causes cancer but you still use petrol. You know there's a risk but you consider it a low one. A similar assessment has been made in Ian's post.


As Low as Reasonably practicable means exactly that.

Not going out into sunlight is a plain ridiculous analogy. Likewise for petrol as there is no commercially viable alternative.

Where is this ALARP assessment i see you talking about?
:roll:
#18
k9plus1
As Low as Reasonably practicable means exactly that.

Not going out into sunlight is a plain ridiculous analogy. Likewise for petrol as there is no commercially viable alternative.

Where is this ALARP assessment i see you talking about?
:roll:


I did edit my last post to reflect what you've said here but then deleted it because I thought I was being a bit argumentative. ;-)

You could wear sun-screen every time you go out but you don't because you can't be bothered.

And you could wear gloves at the petrol pump too but that would look silly, right? :p

Both practical measures...and I see your ALARP and raise you a COSHH and MSDS.
#19
All i'm saying is that if you had 2 products in front of you.. one with a small risk of oral cancer, and the other without. Should a BOGOF offer influence your decision?

And lastly, practical is not reasonably practicable. Otherwise gloves at pumps would have been mandatory already..

Since you brought up COSHH , let me say that the 3 considerations that have to be given are 1) Not use the substance 2) Substitute the substance with a non-hazardous (or less hazardous) version and as a last resort 3) Protect via some physical barrier. How exactly have you seen my ALARP and raised me a COSHH?
#20
k9plus1
All i'm saying is that if you had 2 products in front of you.. one with a small risk of oral cancer, and the other without. Should a BOGOF offer influence your decision?


Erm, this is HDUK right? :p

MSDS for triclosan: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/triclosan.html

MSDS for benzene: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/BE/benzene.html

I know which one I'd be worried about more. Note the use of gloves as personal protective equipment for benzene.
#21
Crikey! can't believe my 'hot deal' has sparked such debate lol.

But still, this is BOGOF and we are all a slave to the deal here lol
#22
komakino
Erm, this is HDUK right? :p

MSDS for triclosan: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/triclosan.html

MSDS for benzene: http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/BE/benzene.html

I know which one I'd be worried about more. Note the use of gloves as personal protective equipment for benzene.


The actual harmful chemical is chloroform (as reported by the article) which is a byproduct from triclosan & chlorine in the water (so the article says).

http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CH/chloroform.html

http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/glossary/toxic.jpg

Still want to put it in your mouth? :whistling:
I really am enjoying this debate by the way and thanks for taking the time to come back and reply :-D
#23
k9plus1
The actual harmful chemical is chloroform (as reported by the article) which is a byproduct from triclosan & chlorine in the water (so the article says).

http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/CH/chloroform.html

Still want to put it in your mouth? :whistling:
I really am enjoying this debate by the way and thanks for taking the time to come back and reply :-D


You know you should really quote all the information. From Wikipedia:

"Reports have suggested that triclosan can combine with chlorine in tap water to form chloroform gas,[17] which the United States Environmental Protection Agency classifies as a probable human carcinogen. As a result, triclosan was the target of a UK cancer alert, even though the study showed that the amount of chloroform generated was less than amounts often present in chlorinated drinking waters."

You still drink tap water right? :w00t:

At the end of the day, you're probably right to be cautious k9plus1 but I'll worry myself over bigger fish (so to speak).
#24
I'll stick to worrying about Dihydrogen monoxide, it's a much bigger concern.

:)
#25
sprouty76
I'll stick to worrying about Dihydrogen monoxide, it's a much bigger concern.

:)


:w00t:

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