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Digoo BB-M2 Mini WiFi IP Camera £16.73 @ Banggood

£16.73 @ BangGood
Digoo BB-M2 Mini WiFi HD 720P Home Security Camera. Supports ONVIF, RTSP stream, works with TinyCam, can be viewed in a web browser and has IR-Cut. Not 1080p but looks good to me. Digoo Customiz… Read More
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Digoo BB-M2 Mini WiFi HD 720P Home Security Camera.

Supports ONVIF, RTSP stream, works with TinyCam, can be viewed in a web browser and has IR-Cut. Not 1080p but looks good to me.

Digoo Customized USB Power + HD 720P + IR + 2 Way Audio + Motion Detection + PTZ + Local Storage & Play Back (Auto+Manual)
Support Multi User View at Same Time + No Upper Limit Camera List + Alarm Call

Specification:
Image Sensor: 1/4 Progressive Scan CMOS Sensor
Effective Pixels: 1.0MP, 1280x720
Illumination: 0.02Lux @(F2.0,AGC On), 0 Lux with IR
Electronic Shutter: Adaptive Shutter
Lens: 3.6mm
Digital Zoom: 4 times
Day/Night: ICR Infrared Filter
Digital Noise Reduction: 3D Digital noise reduction
Image Resolution: HD 720P
Memory: Support Micro SD Card Slot (Max to 64GB) Local Storage
Onvif: Support Onvif, auto turn on the Onvif port
QR Code Scan: Support quick scan and add camera
Fast Configuration: Acoustic smart link configuration (WIFI fast configuration)
Support System: IOS, Android, Windows PC etc
General Function: Reverse, capture, motion detection, password protection, video playback, remote control, two-way intercom audio, browser view etc.
Wireless: IEEE802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n Draft
Frequency Range: 2.4 GHz ~ 2.4835GHz
Channel Bandwidth: 20/40 MHZ
Security: 64/128-bit WEP, WPA/WPA2, WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK, WPS
IR LED 6pcs
IR Distance: 10 Meters
IR Cut Filter: YES
Product Dimension: 85mmx85mmx120mm / 3.3inx3.3inx4.7in
Color: White, Black

Package Includes :
1 x Digoo BB-M2 USB WiFi Camera Monitor
1 x USB Power Cable (110cm+)
1 x English User Guide
1 x Installation Accessories Set
1 x Base

Also available for £15.98 on eBay, thanks SUMMONER.
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4 Likes #1
£15.98 on Ebay, for the penny pinchers (like me). ;)

I am astounded that they can make a pan/tilt cam this cheap and it has ONVIF support too. Thanks, ordered one to play with off Ebay.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Mar 10, 2017 13:01: ..
#2
Cheers for posting, exactly what I was looking for - especially compatibility with TinyCam.
#3
Ordered. Thanks.
2 Likes #4
These are surprisingly OK. But considering the price don't expect miracles!
I have 2 and it's a deep learning curve on setting up correctly though
I paid a bit less on pre order. And this seems to be the "normal" selling price for these which is still a great price considering the function
The Onvif function has never worked for me on my synology nas
All other main functions and app works ok
#5
ern
The Onvif function has never worked for me on my synology nas
meh!:(
1 Like #6
This is the normal selling price for these so not really a deal. They even advertise it as the cheapest PZT camera on the market.
#7
ern
These are surprisingly OK. But considering the price don't expect miracles!
I have 2 and it's a deep learning curve on setting up correctly though
I paid a bit less on pre order. And this seems to be the "normal" selling price for these which is still a great price considering the function
The Onvif function has never worked for me on my synology nas
All other main functions and app works ok


Deal breaker for me, then. Disappointing.
#8
Re onvif - the majority of cheap cams I've tried that claim ONVIF do not :(.
#9
Would this work with QNAP Security Station?
#10
Hi

Would anyone be able to advice if the distance from camera to plug socket is roughly 10-12 meters would a USB extension lead work fine with this camera over 10-12 meters? Or will a USB repeater extension work be the better option?

Thanks
#11
Shoppaholic16
Hi
Would anyone be able to advice if the distance from camera to plug socket is roughly 10-12 meters would a USB extension lead work fine with this camera over 10-12 meters? Or will a USB repeater extension work be the better option?
Thanks
USB is for power only I would assume. The video connection to your PC, tablet or phone is done by connecting the camera to the WiFi in your house.

To simply view the live camera you can use VLC to watch its RTSP Stream, but if you want to use the tilt/pan function or view recorded footage you will likely need to use an Android/iOS device that can run the Digoo app or a compatible one. A lot of these cameras can also be viewed in a web browser on a PC, but those controls are usually flaky at best. The official Android/iOS apps are usually the way to go.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Mar 10, 2017 22:36: ..
#12
SUMMONER
Shoppaholic16
Hi
Would anyone be able to advice if the distance from camera to plug socket is roughly 10-12 meters would a USB extension lead work fine with this camera over 10-12 meters? Or will a USB repeater extension work be the better option?
Thanks
USB is for power only I would assume. The video connection to your PC, tablet or phone is done by connecting the camera to the WiFi in your house.

To simply view the live camera you can use VLC to watch its RTSP Stream, but if you want to use the tilt/pan function or view recorded footage you will likely need to use an Android/iOS device that can run the Digoo app or a compatible one. A lot of these cameras can also be viewed in a web browser on a PC, but those controls are usually flaky at best. The official Android/iOS apps are usually the way to go.


Thanks for the reply.

Sorry I should have been a bit more clearer what I meant ... I'm looking to install this the camera outside the house so I can see who is at the door etc...but just in case the USB power cable falls short by a few meters to the power source in my house I was wondering if a USB extension lead would solve this. I think read that USB powered stuff only travels up to 5 meters anything beyond this will not reach the device (camera)...then I read this other lead a "USB repeater" can allow the power to travel over 5,10,15 meters...just wondered if anyone can confirm this?

Thanks
1 Like #13
These cameras were in the news the other day because of a scare story by a security researcher, but if you use it on a secured wifi network and set a strong password for the cloud account you should be fine.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/185000_wifi_cameras_naked_on_net/
3 Likes #14
Shoppaholic16
I'm looking to install this the camera outside the house so I can see who is at the door etc...but just in case the USB power cable falls short by a few meters to the power source in my house I was wondering if a USB extension lead would solve this. I think read that USB powered stuff only travels up to 5 meters anything beyond this will not reach the device (camera)...then I read this other lead a "USB repeater" can allow the power to travel over 5,10,15 meters...just wondered if anyone can confirm this?
Thanks
The last time I played with USB repeater cables was 10+ years ago, at which point they were limited to 5m. My understanding is that the repeater cables consume power in order to extend the cable length, so you will likely find that by the time you reach the camera there is not enough power left for the camera to function.

Also keep in mind that this cheap as chips thing is not designed for outdoor use, so will likely die if left outside during winter.

What you want is a weatherproof camera with POE, that will allow you to run a simple CAT5e network cable (up to 100m) to power the camera. If you need the pan and tilt function that will likely cost you > £100, but if you are good with just a static camera you should be able to get a very decent 1080p one for < £50 + £10 for cables and adapters.
I bought this the other week and it works great outside the house. It is powered and sends the video over one cheap CAT5e network cable, has WiFi (I don't use it), is weather proof and its in-built motion detection allows it to send me emails with snapshots if someone walks into the back yard.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Mar 11, 2017 03:12: ..
#15
SUMMONER
Shoppaholic16
I'm looking to install this the camera outside the house so I can see who is at the door etc...but just in case the USB power cable falls short by a few meters to the power source in my house I was wondering if a USB extension lead would solve this. I think read that USB powered stuff only travels up to 5 meters anything beyond this will not reach the device (camera)...then I read this other lead a "USB repeater" can allow the power to travel over 5,10,15 meters...just wondered if anyone can confirm this?
Thanks
The last time I played with USB repeater cables was 10+ years ago, at which point they were limited to 5m. My understanding is that the repeater cables consume power in order to extend the cable length, so you will likely find that by the time you reach the camera there is not enough power left for the camera to function.

Also keep in mind that this cheap as chips thing is not designed for outdoor use, so will likely die if left outside during winter.

What you want is a weatherproof camera with POE, that will allow you to run a simple CAT5e network cable (up to 100m) to power the camera. If you need the pan and tilt function that will likely cost you > £100, but if you are good with just a static camera you should be able to get a very decent 1080p one for < £50 + £10 for cables and adapters.
I bought this the other week and it works great outside the house. It is powered and sends the video over one cheap CAT5e network cable, has WiFi (I don't use it), is weather proof and even sends me emails with snapshots, if someone walks into the back yard.


Thanks for the informative reply. Will definitely consider the one you recommend. Never knew cat5e network cables could power cameras like that. Btw is a cat5e same as a Ethernet cable?

Thanks
1 Like #16
Shoppaholic16
Thanks for the informative reply. Will definitely consider the one you recommend. Never knew cat5e network cables could power cameras like that. Btw is a cat5e same as a Ethernet cable?
Thanks
Without getting technical, Yes. There is only one important thing to watch out for when buying network cables that will power a device, do not buy CCA (Copper Clad Aluminium) ones if the cable will be 10+ meters long. Cables used for POE (Power Over Ethernet) should ideally always be made of copper only.

Here are the power injector cables that I use for injecting the power on mine and this is the junction box that I use outside, next to the camera, to hide/waterproof the cables.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Mar 11, 2017 07:52: ..
#17
Thanks Summoner, some very useful stuff in your replies.
#18
Can anyone recommend software to run on a Raspberry Pi2 running Raspbian Jessie Lite that can be used to record motion-triggered video and stills from this camera? Ideally with a user-friendly GUI?

Edited By: dwl99 on Mar 11, 2017 07:52: ..
#19
zebrum
These cameras were in the news the other day because of a scare story by a security researcher, but if you use it on a secured wifi network and set a strong password for the cloud account you should be fine.https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/185000_wifi_cameras_naked_on_net/

Cloud access is apparently vulnerable too, and this model is one of the many listed. The researcher was able to retrieve the configuration file from a camera using a modified cloud app that sent blank credentials to the camera. That should give an attacker the cameras login details, plus the login for the user's email account if they've set up motion detection emails.

https://pierrekim.github.io/blog/2017-03-08-camera-goahead-0day.html

The best approach would be to run a VPN server for remote access.

Same goes for any IP Camera that you don't want publicly viewable.





Edited By: melted on Mar 11, 2017 11:29: added
1 Like #20
Personally I wouldn't bother with long USB cables or Active repeater cables. You'll find voltage drop is an issue at anything over 5m. At 10m + you'll be lucky to get 4.3v and that's unloaded, stick a load on it and that'll drop down to 3.8-4.0v. You find using a camera like this on low voltage would cause all sorts of issues, mainly stability especially when you use the PTZ function or the IR LED's activate as you'll find the camera will either lock up or re-boot.

You're best off using a 12v adapter, running 12 volts to the camera location and using a USB step-down module you can get off the likes of ebay (I use these: Ebay item 192054510360) I've been doing this for a couple of years without issue.
#21
The url for the rtsp stream is apparently this:-

rtsp://admin:[email protected]:10554/tcp/av0_0


I gather RTSP has to be enabled in the settings first:- http://forum.banggood.com/forum-topic-260654.html
#22
freakstyler
Personally I wouldn't bother with long USB cables or Active repeater cables. You'll find voltage drop is an issue at anything over 5m. At 10m + you'll be lucky to get 4.3v and that's unloaded, stick a load on it and that'll drop down to 3.8-4.0v. You find using a camera like this on low voltage would cause all sorts of issues, mainly stability especially when you use the PTZ function or the IR LED's activate as you'll find the camera will either lock up or re-boot.

You're best off using a 12v adapter, running 12 volts to the camera location and using a USB step-down module you can get off the likes of ebay (I use these: Ebay item 192054510360) I've been doing this for a couple of years without issue.

Good suggestion. Buck converters cost about £1 on ebay.com
#23
Could this be used as a webcam for Skype?
1 Like #24
Shame there's no ethernet socket
#25
This type of camera usually doesn't need a DNS, meaning there's a server somewhere in China which gets your IP when you are logged in and sends the picture to your smartphone. Do you know how we can find the link to that stream so that we can use it in another application ?
#26
Complete and utter junk. Save your money and get something decent.
#27
go4go13
Complete and utter junk. Save your money and get something decent.

Do you have one? Please explain why you have this opinion.
#28
freakstyler
Personally I wouldn't bother with long USB cables or Active repeater cables. You'll find voltage drop is an issue at anything over 5m. At 10m + you'll be lucky to get 4.3v and that's unloaded, stick a load on it and that'll drop down to 3.8-4.0v. You find using a camera like this on low voltage would cause all sorts of issues, mainly stability especially when you use the PTZ function or the IR LED's activate as you'll find the camera will either lock up or re-boot.

You're best off using a 12v adapter, running 12 volts to the camera location and using a USB step-down module you can get off the likes of ebay (I use these: Ebay item 192054510360) I've been doing this for a couple of years without issue.


Thanks for the reply. I've had a look at the 12v adapter and the USB step down module you suggested on eBay.

I can see where the USB from the camera would connect to the step down module but I can't seem to see where the 12v adapter would connect on the module?

Kind regards
#29
Hi watch the fast configuration statement I have one for 4 days now there were no instructions and despite several attempts I still have not connected to wifi even following on line info very frustrating..
1 Like #30
dwl99
Can anyone recommend software to run on a Raspberry Pi2 running Raspbian Jessie Lite that can be used to record motion-triggered video and stills from this camera? Ideally with a user-friendly GUI?
Look at MotionEyeOs. I'm not sure it works with this but works great with compatible webcams
#31
Shoppaholic16
freakstyler
Personally I wouldn't bother with long USB cables or Active repeater cables. You'll find voltage drop is an issue at anything over 5m. At 10m + you'll be lucky to get 4.3v and that's unloaded, stick a load on it and that'll drop down to 3.8-4.0v. You find using a camera like this on low voltage would cause all sorts of issues, mainly stability especially when you use the PTZ function or the IR LED's activate as you'll find the camera will either lock up or re-boot.
You're best off using a 12v adapter, running 12 volts to the camera location and using a USB step-down module you can get off the likes of ebay (I use these: Ebay item 192054510360) I've been doing this for a couple of years without issue.
Thanks for the reply. I've had a look at the 12v adapter and the USB step down module you suggested on eBay.
I can see where the USB from the camera would connect to the step down module but I can't seem to see where the 12v adapter would connect on the module?
Kind regards


That has solder pads for the 12v supply, here's some alternatives that could be used without soldering:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262880081034

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262537538242?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-to-5V-3A-15W-USB-DC-DC-Buck-Charger-Converter-Step-Down-Module-Power-Supply-/400981171330?hash=item5d5c571c82:g:YpsAAOSwLVZV1Sm3

Voltage drop can also be reduced by using wire with thicker conductors than normally found in USB cables.

Edited By: melted on Mar 18, 2017 11:59
#32
Spearshake
Hi watch the fast configuration statement I have one for 4 days now there were no instructions and despite several attempts I still have not connected to wifi even following on line info very frustrating..


mine didnt come with any instructions either, downloaded app, tried that app audio set up, but it just gave me the camera name. I did the wifi set up in the app and it found it, it seemed to connect and work then after a few minutes thought. no idea what password was but changing it to a new one was straightforward.
It works, but its nothing special, touchscreen response on mobile is like a five year old laptop. you wouldnt get very far tracking something or someone.
But hey its £16 has ptz zoom and can email (and probably China) if something happens
#33
melted
zebrum
These cameras were in the news the other day because of a scare story by a security researcher, but if you use it on a secured wifi network and set a strong password for the cloud account you should be fine.https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/09/185000_wifi_cameras_naked_on_net/
Cloud access is apparently vulnerable too, and this model is one of the many listed. The researcher was able to retrieve the configuration file from a camera using a modified cloud app that sent blank credentials to the camera. That should give an attacker the cameras login details, plus the login for the user's email account if they've set up motion detection emails. https://pierrekim.github.io/blog/2017-03-08-camera-goahead-0day.html
The best approach would be to run a VPN server for remote access.
Same goes for any IP Camera that you don't want publicly viewable.

Id go as far as shoving them on a separate VLAN with all outbound communication to the internet blocked but that requires kit most people won't have at home.

If ONVIF worked then they might be useful with something like blueiris or zoneminder but as they stand at the moment they're not that interesting
#34
Anyone got this to work as an ONVIF camera with iSpy or IP Centcom? I got it to work as an RTSP camera with IP Centcom (rtsp://IP_ADDRESS:10554/tcp/av0_0) and iSpy (rtsp://USERNAME:[email protected]_ADDRESS:10554/tcp/av0_0).

Edited By: dwl99 on Apr 01, 2017 13:04: ..

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