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I tried to get my mum a Senior Railcard when the glitch was working, giving £10 off the £30 annual Railcard's but I was just too late. But I did some searching and found that there is a Disabled R… Read More
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I tried to get my mum a Senior Railcard when the glitch was working, giving £10 off the £30 annual Railcard's but I was just too late.

But I did some searching and found that there is a Disabled Railcard, and it is very rarely advertised whereas all the other railcards are (friends and family, senior, student etc). I was amazed that the criteria to apply for one is quite wide. My mum has hearing aids and that was enough. I just had to scan the front of her hearing aid battery replacement book to complete her application.

Now here are the very best bits:

1, This card only costs £20 where the others cost £30 per year

2, The card gives 1/3rd off train tickets for the holder, BUT if the railcard holder travels with someone then that person also gets 1/3rd off too

3, Unlike all the other schemes, this card allows you to travel during peak times, not restricted to off peak only.

I hope this helps others, and I just wish I had known about it sooner.

£54 for three years.

- supermann

the criteria aren't as wide as perhaps implied:

* In receipt of Disability Living Allowance Mobility component

* In receipt of Disability Living Allowance Care component - medium or highest only

* In receipt of Personal Independence Payments

* In receipt of Attendance Allowance

* In receipt of Severe Disablement Allowance

* In receipt of War Pensioner's Mobility Supplement

* In receipt of War or Service Disablement Pension for 80% or more disabiltiy

* Have a Motability vehicle

* Have epilepsy, and are prohibited by the DVLA from driving, or have an exemption certificate for epilepsy medication

* Are registered deaf

* Have an NHS or private hearing aid prescription (note a private hearing aid costs around £1500+, so the idiots implying there is a scam/sponging here should get lost)

or a registered visual impairment/blindness

- dudedude

ADDITIONALLY: You can link the disabled railcard card to an Oyster card to receive a 1/3rd off of tube when using the Oyster card.

- to clarify the above comment re Oyster: the railcard doesn't directly give a discount off bus fares, but it does discount the daily caps which bus as well as train and DLR count towards. Emirates doesn't count towards the caps and isn't discounted by the railcard.

One adult travelling with the disabled railcard holder can buy a paper Travelcard, Zones 1-6 or greater, at a 1/3 discount.
- faddy54
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#41
samc90
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.


You're right the money's much better spent upgrading the nuclear arsenal than helping people who qualify for benefits


intelligent, well rounded responses. Good effort. How about, those that don't NEED the benefit, don't claim it. The money saved could reduce fairs for EVERYONE. Not to mention the 4 Billion tax burden.
5 Likes #42
peeej1978
callum84
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.
They have set a criteria of who is eligible and they by what OP says are checking these conditions are met.
If someone is elligible they shouldnt be made to feel ashamed to apply.
Subsidies like this, that have been set aside by government should be used to full potential by those elligible.
If money is not spent on something worthwhile like this it will just be used for something else which probably will be a total waste of money.
How about making the criteria more appropriate to the actual disability, and then spend the remainder of the money saved reducing railfares for the masses? A lot more people would benefit then - yourself included. I'm technically eligible for the benefit. I just think it's wrong as I, and many many others who are eligible, simply shouldn't be eligible. People are blind to the fact we are all paying for these benefits and it isn't going to those that truly need it.

Because somebody receiving 1/3 off of rail tickets, after paying £20-30 for the privilege, would reduce your annual rail season ticket by that much, a tiny fraction of a penny? Get over yourself!

Should I also not be able to buy a 16-25 railcard because I'm over 25 but still in full-time education? By using that I can travel to London in off peak times for £8/day for the 3 days a week I need to go in, rather than spending £400/month from my PhD stipend (government funded, so I must be a leech too) on a travelcard.

Edited By: bma1445 on Jan 07, 2017 13:11
1 Like #43
aljack
I agree, however if you meet the criteria then people should apply for it. As a regular user of the railways we pay some of the highest ticket fares in Europe, maybe the government should subsidise the railways more instead of maintaining 0.7% of our GDP in foreign aid to countries like Pakistan, who have a space programme and nuclear weapons!!!


And where does the government get its money from? Thin air? No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.

And Pakistan doesn't have a space program. It's India you're thinking of.

Edited By: mtuk1 on Jan 07, 2017 13:15: .
4 Likes #44
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.


I think our taxes go to bombing syria, and colonising other parts of the world.
1 Like #45
bma1445
peeej1978
callum84
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.
They have set a criteria of who is eligible and they by what OP says are checking these conditions are met.
If someone is elligible they shouldnt be made to feel ashamed to apply.
Subsidies like this, that have been set aside by government should be used to full potential by those elligible.
If money is not spent on something worthwhile like this it will just be used for something else which probably will be a total waste of money.
How about making the criteria more appropriate to the actual disability, and then spend the remainder of the money saved reducing railfares for the masses? A lot more people would benefit then - yourself included. I'm technically eligible for the benefit. I just think it's wrong as I, and many many others who are eligible, simply shouldn't be eligible. People are blind to the fact we are all paying for these benefits and it isn't going to those that truly need it.

Because somebody receiving 1/3 off of rail tickets, after paying £20-30 for the privilege, would reduce your annual rail season ticket by that much, a tiny fraction of a penny? Get over yourself!

Should I also not be able to buy a 16-25 railcard because I'm over 25 but still in full-time education? By using that I can travel to London in off peak times for £8/day for the 3 days a week I need to go in, rather than spending £400/month from my PhD stipend (government funded, so I must be a leech too) on a travelcard.


You object to having appropriate eligibility criteria to help those in ACTUAL need? You object to people bring guided by their principles and conscience rather than some all inclusive, massively subsidized eligibility criteria? Perhaps when you're paying tax some day, and Start to see the abuse of the system, you'll rethink your immature viewpoint. Help those that NEED, is my only point.
#46
NorthLondonN1
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.


I think our taxes go to bombing syria, and colonising other parts of the world.


In addition, yes they do. Different topic though.
6 Likes #47
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.
#48
NorthLondonN1
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.


I think our taxes go to bombing syria, and colonising other parts of the world.


Indeed. Our taxes get spent of many different things. Some good. Some not.
1 Like #49
Gordinho
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.


propaganda. Not independent, fact based journalism.
41 Likes #50
This supposed 4 billion quid in subsidies and the suggestion it could be lessened by eligible people not claiming discounts. How about the private rail companies stop making millions of pounds profit for their shareholders instead?
#51
mtuk1
aljack
I agree, however if you meet the criteria then people should apply for it. As a regular user of the railways we pay some of the highest ticket fares in Europe, maybe the government should subsidise the railways more instead of maintaining 0.7% of our GDP in foreign aid to countries like Pakistan, who have a space programme and nuclear weapons!!!

And Pakistan doesn't have a space program. It's India you're thinking of.
Yup.......
http://suparco.gov.pk/webroot/index.asp

Oh, and this as well:
http://www.nti.org/learn/countries/pakistan/nuclear/
However, what is wrong with the space research, as it is mostly targetted at climate prediction to assist agriculture etc which might lead to less aid required.

Edited By: Copperface on Jan 07, 2017 13:33
1 Like #52
Anyway, talk about a digressing thread!!
Good reminder for those eligible.
#53
Steamenjin
This supposed 4 billion quid in subsidies and the suggestion it could be lessened by eligible people not claiming discounts. How about the private rail companies stop making millions of pounds profit for their shareholders instead?


absolutely! I'm not suggesting the disability discount Is the only area of saving. I'm just saying that those who don't NEED it shouldn't claim it.
16 Likes #54
@ peeej1978
I have read all your comments through this thread and your attitude appears to be if you have a disability and don't NEED it you shouldn't be entitled to a subsidy to acquire it. Not be given anything really - simply be given a discount off buying a card that still costs every time it is used.
At no point do you consider people's quality of life, or how important it is for people on limited means to stretch every pound as far as they can.
While you are complaining about "your taxes" subsidising people who have the misfortune to be disabled, I as a cancer patient in remission and unable to work since 2011, would happily swap places with you and I would also happily give you £10 out of "my taxes" if it improved your quality of life.

That's what the welfare system is for. So instead of sniping at people who need a £10 subsidy, a nice easy target for pontificating small minded bullies, try engaging society's real enemies such as tax dodging companies and individuals.
8 Likes #55
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits

Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it

Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..

And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!

Peej. Chill out!
1 Like #56
gp1602
Peeej1978 - go and calm down! You implied they are applying for something they are not entitled to and you are incorrect, they are entitled to it. As others have said to you, you're in the wrong place for this argument.
Who decides what can and can't/should or shouldn't be discussed here? Not you pal.
11 Likes #57
peeej1978
Steamenjin
This supposed 4 billion quid in subsidies and the suggestion it could be lessened by eligible people not claiming discounts. How about the private rail companies stop making millions of pounds profit for their shareholders instead?
absolutely! I'm not suggesting the disability discount Is the only area of saving. I'm just saying that those who don't NEED it shouldn't claim it.

The irony is that this is kind of attitude that leads to pensioners eligible for benefits freezing to death every winter because they don't want to be a burden. The criteria have been set and every single person who meets the criteria has the right to claim. If you disagree with the criteria them I suggest you object to the criteria themselves and stop trying to guilt trip people into not claiming something they are entitled to.

As for the 4bn subsidy itself then most of it goes to boosting the number of off peak travellers which actually provides income for the train companies. It also reduces pollution and benefits the environment.

Above all it is just a discount and if discounts didn't produce extra income and extra profit then pretty much every retailer wouldn't be offering them.
12 Likes #58
Lol this guy spending his entire Saturday sat at home arguing about the morality of claiming for disabled rail cards. Get off your high horse, get yourself a cheap rail fare and get out more! :D
1 Like #59
heada
@ peeej1978
I have read all your comments through this thread and your attitude appears to be if you have a disability and don't NEED it you shouldn't be entitled to a subsidy to acquire it. Not be given anything really - simply be given a discount off buying a card that still costs every time it is used.
At no point do you consider people's quality of life, or how important it is for people on limited means to stretch every pound as far as they can.
While you are complaining about "your taxes" subsidising people who have the misfortune to be disabled, I as a cancer patient in remission and unable to work since 2011, would happily swap places with you and I would also happily give you £10 out of "my taxes" if it improved your quality of life.

That's what the welfare system is for. So instead of sniping at people who need a £10 subsidy, a nice easy target for pontificating small minded bullies, try engaging society's real enemies such as tax dodging companies and individuals.







Youve read but not understood my points. I agree in helping those who NEED! I myself am disabled, but there's plenty of benefits I don't claim (despite eligibility), because I don't NEED the particular benefit. It leaves more money in the pot for other people and other things. I have no problems assisting those in genuine need. And not once have I snipped at anyone. Please be accurate in your responses.
2 Likes #60
Gollywood
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits

Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it

Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..

And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!

Peej. Chill out!


1. I AM. disabled.

2. Most of what you've written I haven't made comment on.

3. Just because someone is eligible doesn't mean they NEED the benefit. Give it to those who NEED. Not all those with an irrelevant disability (like mine!).
1 Like #61
Peej's point is quite valid. If someone needs and deserves this then great, awareness raised. What worries me is the amount of greedy so-and-so's who will abuse this given the chance, when the benefit isn't intended for them... You just have to look at the bold-faced thieves who use this forum to brag about signing up for silly "further education courses" just to take advantage of nus card discounts.

Edited By: ludwig352 on Jan 07, 2017 14:05
1 Like #62
xtightgitx
peeej1978
Steamenjin
This supposed 4 billion quid in subsidies and the suggestion it could be lessened by eligible people not claiming discounts. How about the private rail companies stop making millions of pounds profit for their shareholders instead?
absolutely! I'm not suggesting the disability discount Is the only area of saving. I'm just saying that those who don't NEED it shouldn't claim it.

The irony is that this is kind of attitude that leads to pensioners eligible for benefits freezing to death every winter because they don't want to be a burden. The criteria have been set and every single person who meets the criteria has the right to claim. If you disagree with the criteria them I suggest you object to the criteria themselves and stop trying to guilt trip people into not claiming something they are entitled to.

As for the 4bn subsidy itself then most of it goes to boosting the number of off peak travellers which actually provides income for the train companies. It also reduces pollution and benefits the environment.

Above all it is just a discount and if discounts didn't produce extra income and extra profit then pretty much every retailer wouldn't be offering them.


You misunderstand me. I am not trying to guilt anyone. Simply put, benefits and entitlement should go to those that truly need it. For too long this country has thrown money away on schemes that are abused by those that don't NEED it. There has to be a better way.
1 Like #63
JohnOFarrell
Lol this guy spending his entire Saturday sat at home arguing about the morality of claiming for disabled rail cards. Get off your high horse, get yourself a cheap rail fare and get out more! :D


I'm disabled bro. How I choose to spend my time is my business.
#64
peeej1978
JohnOFarrell
Lol this guy spending his entire Saturday sat at home arguing about the morality of claiming for disabled rail cards. Get off your high horse, get yourself a cheap rail fare and get out more! :D


I'm disabled bro. How I choose to spend my time is my business.


LoL. this guy taking the time to reply to someone who feels passionate about people not abusing the welfare state.
#65
peeej1978
Gollywood
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits
Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it
Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..
And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!
Peej. Chill out!
1. I AM. disabled.
2. Most of what you've written I haven't made comment on.
3. Just because someone is eligible doesn't mean they NEED the benefit. Give it to those who NEED. Not all those with an irrelevant disability (like mine!).
Unfortunately you're banging your head against a brick wall here, matey. Some people only want morals if they're free. If they give your opinions fair consideration and question whether their actions are just, it might cost them a few quid.... They'll search around for people who have the same attitude in order to justify their selfishness.
7 Likes #66
lf being self righteous was a disability i know who could claim it ....;)
#67
peeej1978
Gordinho
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.
propaganda. Not independent, fact based journalism.

peeej1978
Gordinho
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.
propaganda. Not independent, fact based journalism.
It is saying we should renationalise the railways because the profits from the companies are going abroad, much like energy companies.
4 Likes #68
you don't need to buy a railcard to get discount with a disability, as my wife has to go to a london hospital once a year for scans and is in a wheelchair permanently when you phone and book for assisted travel you will get discount for the carer,think you only pay for one ticket, as we only go once a year it's not worth paying the £20 a year for a rail card, hope this helps.
18 Likes #69
ludwig352
peeej1978
Gollywood
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits
Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it
Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..
And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!
Peej. Chill out!
1. I AM. disabled.
2. Most of what you've written I haven't made comment on.
3. Just because someone is eligible doesn't mean they NEED the benefit. Give it to those who NEED. Not all those with an irrelevant disability (like mine!).
Unfortunately you're banging your head against a brick wall here, matey. Some people only want morals if they're free. If they give your opinions fair consideration and question whether their actions are just, it might cost them a few quid.... They'll search around for people who have the same attitude in order to justify their selfishness.


This opinion is outdated 1950s moralistic bs, if you want savings go chat up MPs like Duncan Smith who claim 40 quid a day for their breakfast

the disabled in this country have faced local council service cuts, bedroom tax, cuts in disability allowances, cutting of funding for many schemes like this

So forgive others for claiming one of the only bloody things left while MPs reward themselves with a lovely 10k wage rise, on top of expenses and a free 2nd house

your attitude disgusts me, as a disabled person you should be supporting the people who, like you, have been royally screwed over by this government, yet you (subconsciously) are telling people its wrong to claim something you're entitled to?

Bit of truth for you mate, the REAL fraud happens at the top. parliament has 4 billion for breakfast, open your eyes

good find op, well done, everyone who can take it, do it, it's not advertised because they want to minimise benefit spending at the bottom
1 Like #70
Reality
It's probably not widely known, because most disabled are unable to travel by rail.
They are better in a train because they can get up and walk around rather then sit in a car for a 2hr journey. And they can go loo whenever they want.. and will get assistance when needed.
#71
lizzie84
peeej1978
Gordinho
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.
propaganda. Not independent, fact based journalism.
peeej1978
Gordinho
mtuk1
No, those hard working taxpayers you mention. When people talk about rail fares on the continent being cheaper, they're not really. Most continental countries have higher income taxes then us, and they pay for the subsidies through taxes. Yes, our fares are too high, but people who use the railways pay for them. On the continent, everyone pays through their taxes regardless.
British taxpayers are subsidising continental train fares.
propaganda. Not independent, fact based journalism.
It is saying we should renationalise the railways because the profits from the companies are going abroad, much like energy companies.

National companies do make the silliest mistakes. Then we're at those international companies mercy.
7 Likes #72
DatAlbino
ludwig352
peeej1978
Gollywood
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits
Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it
Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..
And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!
Peej. Chill out!
1. I AM. disabled.
2. Most of what you've written I haven't made comment on.
3. Just because someone is eligible doesn't mean they NEED the benefit. Give it to those who NEED. Not all those with an irrelevant disability (like mine!).
Unfortunately you're banging your head against a brick wall here, matey. Some people only want morals if they're free. If they give your opinions fair consideration and question whether their actions are just, it might cost them a few quid.... They'll search around for people who have the same attitude in order to justify their selfishness.
This opinion is outdated 1950s moralistic bs, if you want savings go chat up MPs like Duncan Smith who claim 40 quid a day for their breakfast
the disabled in this country have faced local council service cuts, bedroom tax, cuts in disability allowances, cutting of funding for many schemes like this
So forgive others for claiming one of the only bloody things left while MPs reward themselves with a lovely 10k wage rise, on top of expenses and a free 2nd house
your attitude disgusts me, as a disabled person you should be supporting the people who, like you, have been royally screwed over by this government, yet you (subconsciously) are telling people its wrong to claim something you're entitled to?
Bit of truth for you mate, the REAL fraud happens at the top. parliament has 4 billion for breakfast, open your eyes
good find op, well done, everyone who can take it, do it, it's not advertised because they want to minimise benefit spending at the bottom
Spot on!
1 Like #73
You are making an assumption that her mum can afford to travel without a subsidy. Perhaps this will help a lot of people that are entitled to it. Her mum quite likely has a lifetime of being a hardworking honest tax payer, has also contributed but her taxes would have helped your grandparents generation. Ridiculous comment.
If everyone that has a hearing aid was rich I would be looking for a hearing aid too ;)

gp1602
peeej1978
quidstretchy
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.
The Donald has spoken, albeit, and unusually, in somewhat more than 140 characters.
LoL. Why? Because I have a conscience that doesn't feel comfortable claiming benefits that I'm not really in need of? I don't object to having the benefit available. I object to the abuse of the benefit by people that really don't need it.
I do not understand this argument one bit? Someone posts a deal for something they are perfectly entitled to and for some reason gets a comment about benefit fraud essentially?!
Please make sure you NEVER pay your window cleaner cash again!
3 Likes #74
Love one another

and all of the above arguments disappear. Everyone of us is doing the best we can at any point in time.

And now for the least used HKUD emoji <3
2 Likes #75
You mean like MP expenses?

peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.
2 Likes #76
samc90

You're right the money's much better spent upgrading the nuclear arsenal than helping people who qualify for benefits
Well I would be much happier seeing my taxes paying Sam Cam's Hairdresser or Dress Picker-Outer get a gong and his Advisers (who clearly gave him very bad advice) get ex-Gratia payments.... rather than the old and disabled get help.......NOT !!
5 Likes #77
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.
Are you saying that people who claim this offer may not be taxpayers? You know everyone pays into the tax system via VAT right?
11 Likes #78
peeej1978
You know, all these railcards are subsidised by massive government investments. And guess who funds those subsidies? I'm all for getting a bargain. And I'm all for appropriate benefits for those that 'need' it. But I see so many people abusing the good nature of our benefit culture just to save a few quid, and its the hard working, honest tax payers that ultimately foot the bill.

Sorry, but that is not even remotely true - it is not in any way subsidised by the government. All railcards are a marketing tool to get people to use the train (particulary during off peak periods when trains are much quieter.)

Following your logic, season ticket holders are subsided by the tax payer - A commuter paying around £5000 a year for their season ticket, who travels five times a week pays around £20 a day to travel - a non season ticket traveller travelling peak time would pay £75-80 for the same journey.

It's not subsidy, it's dynamic pricing to maximise revenue. The reality is that all railcards (including this one) encourage rail travel which increases users which increases revenue which REDUCES subsidy!
#79
ludwig352
peeej1978
Gollywood
Not everyone that has a disability claims benefits
Not everyone that BUYS this card will use it
Not all disabled people are a burden on the tax payer..
And disabled people also pay taxes!!!!
Peej. Chill out!
1. I AM. disabled.
2. Most of what you've written I haven't made comment on.
3. Just because someone is eligible doesn't mean they NEED the benefit. Give it to those who NEED. Not all those with an irrelevant disability (like mine!).
Unfortunately you're banging your head against a brick wall here, matey. Some people only want morals if they're free. If they give your opinions fair consideration and question whether their actions are just, it might cost them a few quid.... They'll search around for people who have the same attitude in order to justify their selfishness.


Yup. The thing I've realised here is that people's own self interest is far greater than people seeing sense. It's a sad state of affairs that people's self serving nature takes precidence over anything else. Glad I don't surround myself with these type of people in my personal life. The stupidity of it all is, it's costs us ALL more eventually, so there really is no saving to be had in the long run. But as you say, saving a few quid In the immediate term seems far more important than doing the 'right' thing.
2 Likes #80
Wow, a simple heads up from the Op turns into a huge debate!

Bottom line is if your eligible go for it. Otherwise its fraud. Simple!.

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