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DIY Ebuyer Value (gaming) PC - Dual Core, 2GB, 250GB, X1650Pro, Vista OS - £233.63 delivered

£233.63 @ Ebuyer
I've put together this lot from Ebuyer and it features Corsair memory, Dual Core Celeron and a X1650Pro video card with Wireless KB and mouse as well. Only £233.63 PowerColor X1650PRO 512MB GDDR2 1… Read More
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9y, 5m agoFound 9 years, 5 months ago
I've put together this lot from Ebuyer and it features Corsair memory, Dual Core Celeron and a X1650Pro video card with Wireless KB and mouse as well. Only £233.63

PowerColor X1650PRO 512MB GDDR2 128Bit DVI PCI-E Graphics card
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132542
£25.98

Intel Celeron Dual Core E1200 Socket 775 (1.60GHz) 800FSB 512KB L2 Cache Retail Boxed Processor
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139975
£35.56

ASUS P5LD2 SE R1.0 i945P Socket 775 6-channel audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119045
£26.99

Casecom KL-9666 Grey/Silver ATX Midi Tower Case - With 350W PSU
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/86509
£12.75

Optiarc AD-5200A-01 20X DVD?RW/DL Int IDE Bare Beige Drive - OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138748
£14.95

Maxtor STM3250310AS 250GB SATAII 8MB Cache OEM
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131214
£36.89

Corsair 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 675MHz PC2 5400 XMS Memory Non ECC Unbuffered CL4(4 4 4 12) Heat Spreader Lifetime Warranty
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/92879
£26.99

A4-Tech Wireless Multimedia Keyboard & Wireless Scroll Mouse Bundle - Beige with PS/2 Connection - Retail Boxed
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128112
£3.24

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic x64Bit OEM 1pk DVD
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/123051
£50.28
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#1
not bad

rember if you had an os disc allready you could save 50 pounds

with a few changes this could make a nice little htpc
#2
And the Celeron Dual Core overclocks to 3GHz.
#3
I'm not up on Graphics cards but surely this one won't cut the mustard with even quite old 3D games will it?

Anyway good price if it does :)
#4
darkovo;1468881
I'm not up on Graphics cards but surely this one won't cut the mustard with even quite old 3D games will it?

Anyway good price if it does :)

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/135875/powercolor-ati-x1650-pro-512mb-pci-/
[admin]#5
Thanks for taking the time to put this together :) Heat & Rep added
#6
Not bad, but I'd swap the Celeron for a E2160 (around £8 dearer). The graphics is a bit weak, but should be fine for older/less graphically-intensive games - no doubt it's excellent value for this budget gaming system.

For a substantial CPU overclock, one will need an aftermarket cooler for ~£15. And the power supply may also need upgrading.
#7
poor quality case& I wouldn't touch a maxtor disk with a barge pole. graphics card will be a nightmare with vista x64 too (as all radeons are). personally i've seen better deals from pre-built machines like dell.

voted cold, sorry.
#8
I'd avoid the dual core celeron 1200 for gaming, the low cache on-board the processor takes huge whacks out of the performance.

xbitlabs.com has supposedly done some benchmarking on them:-
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-e1200_6.html#sect0

It looks a great chip for almost everything but games in terms of performance for the price.
#9
beauchampy;1469601
poor quality case& I wouldn't touch a maxtor disk with a barge pole. graphics card will be a nightmare with vista x64 too (as all radeons are). personally i've seen better deals from pre-built machines like dell.

voted cold, sorry.


Obviously, you can always spend a bit more to get something better :p
I put this system altogether because IMHO there are people who would like to buy a sub £250 Gaming PC.
If you are not one of them, it really doesn't make any sense for you to vote it cold.
Voting cold would imply that you have seen a better deal out there in the past 24 or 48 hours. If you did, then please share the link/data with us all.
#10
siliconbits
Voting cold would imply that you have seen a better deal out there in the past 24 or 48 hours. If you did, then please share the link/data with us all.

Absolutely agree. :thumbsup: Some people will vote anything cold for the weirdest reasons! ;-)
#11
Following on from the original post that was made earlier I thought id expand it by adding have a DIY budget Crysis PC (crysis being the toughest game on graphics cards out there at the moment, if your PC can run Crysis then you should be set for a while!).

This is put together using the recommended spc that Crytek (the people who made the game) say should run Crysis on High Settings:

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/01/17/crytek_specs_a_budget_machine_for_crysis/1

CPU - Intel Core2Duo E6750 - £114.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130484
GPU - GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - £163.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139108
Motherboard - Nvidia nForce 650i Socket 775 - £51.96
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/121169
PSU - 600W ATX12V - £31.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124926
RAM - 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit - £29.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129954
HDD - SATA 250GB 7200RPM - £44.07
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124733
DVD - 20x DVD±R Burner - £14.95
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138748
Case - ATX Midi Tower Computer Case - £12.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119590
OS - Microsoft Windows XP Home with SP2 - 51.83
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114048

Also added a cheapo 12mm fan to make sure it doesnt overheat
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/63281 - £1.49

Altogether comes to £518.35 (plus postage)

PLEASE NOTE: I have basically specced off what they recommended and got the cheapest items off ebuyer that I saw, if I was going to build my own system I would upgrade the CPU, Graphics Card and Ram:

Cpu
Intel Core2Duo E6750 to a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (add £37)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131823

8800GT 512mb to a 8800 GTS 512mb (the new one) (add £21)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138551

Upgrade Ram to ones with Heatsink and better latency (add £4.99)
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116755

Comes to £581.34

Oh, and I agree, the original post is a good idea for someone who is looking for a cheap, casual gaming machine so have voted hot!
#12
I've tried to build a similar DIY PC using parts from Dabs and it costs substantially more plus you have to pay for postage.
#13
I don't claim to be an expert or anything, but if I was buying a gaming computer on a small budget I'd probably go with:

Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160 Socket 775 (1.8GHz) 1MB L2 Cache OEM Processor

Scythe Katana 2 Socket 478, 754, 940, 775, 939 & AM2 CPU Cooler

Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATA II 7200RPM 16MB Cache - OEM

OCZ 2GB Kit (2x1GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 CL 4-4-4-15 PLATINUM XTC with LIFETIME WARRANTY

PowerColor HD 3850 Pro PCS 512MB GDDR3 256bit Dual DVI TVO PCI-E Graphics Card

Pioneer DVR-212BK 18X SATA DVD?RW DL Int Black - OEM

ASUS P5B Socket 775 Core 2 ready P965 chipset onboard audio ATX

Arctic Power 600W PSU - With PCI-E, SATA, 20+4, ATX12V, 8pin +12V Connectors - Retail Boxed

Coolermaster Elite 330 Black Mid Tower Case - No PSU


Comes to a total cost of £409.35 inc VAT. Add about £50 for your choice of either XP or Vista.

Obviously is a totally different price range here, but I've been building my own computers for years now, and buying the very cheapest of parts never ever pays off. I have the same processor in my system, although a different motherboard, but I'm currently running it at 3.6GHz stable at <60 degrees under heavy load (OCCT).
#14
Voting HOT thanks for doing this, I find this kind of thing really useful as an amateur PC builder it is nice to know which components compliment each other well.
#15
beauchampy
poor quality case& I wouldn't touch a maxtor disk with a barge pole. graphics card will be a nightmare with vista x64 too (as all radeons are). personally i've seen better deals from pre-built machines like dell.

voted cold, sorry.


Voted hot.

Matter of opinion and luck of the draw I guess, but I've had Maxtor disks for the past 5 years and haven't had a problem from their 10GB range through to the 250GB.
#16
What games is this machine aimed at? Minesweeper? ;) I'd definitely recommend spending a bit more on the keyboard and mouse and getting something decent.
#17
siliconbits
Obviously, you can always spend a bit more to get something better :p
I put this system altogether because IMHO there are people who would like to buy a sub £250 Gaming PC.
If you are not one of them, it really doesn't make any sense for you to vote it cold.
Voting cold would imply that you have seen a better deal out there in the past 24 or 48 hours. If you did, then please share the link/data with us all.


I'm not voting either way because I agree with your last line, however I really wouldn't consider this a gaming PC for the following reasons:

The processor is woefully underpowered and, while it will run older games okay, you can pretty much forget about anything new. While I know it will overclock I'd never recommend a system based on that ability as a general purchase as it's too easy for someone inexperienced to mess it up or expect higher performance than they'll end up with. Quote from Xbitlabs review:
The results of the new Celeron E1200 in games should be not very encouraging for the gaming fans. Its performance is truly below any acceptable level because of the small L2 cache. Even overclocking doesn’t help. Dual-core Celeron processor working at 3.4GHz performs as fast as Core 2 Duo E4600 with the 2.4GHz nominal clock speed. So, Celeron E1200 is absolutely not suitable for gaming. Although it is considerably faster than its predecessor, Celeron 440, Athlon 64 X2 4000+ priced identically can boast a much higher fps level in games these days.

The graphics card is a decent deal for the price but, again, it's really going to struggle running anything new at decent framerates. In and of itself that's not necessarily a problem but it means you're going to feel the pain from that processor even more.

This spec also doesn't include a monitor and that keyboard and mouse combination is completely unsuitable for a gaming rig. If you're going to buy cheap, at least buy wired.

Really though my main problem is, and this is just my personal view, if you have £250 to spend on a gaming pc.... buy a console. For that price point the consoles will bury the PC. On the other hand if you do want a gaming rig do yourself a favour and scrape together a little more money. It'll work out better in the long run and give you a better experience now.

All that being said, thumbs up for putting in this amount of effort. :thumbsup:
#18
emu
not bad

rember if you had an os disc allready you could save 50 pounds

with a few changes this could make a nice little htpc


Yeah, "OS disk already" nice one, not that anyone pirates/borrows/steals OS disks.
#19
Stelph
Following on from the original post that was made earlier I thought id expand it by adding have a DIY budget Crysis PC (crysis being the toughest game on graphics cards out there at the moment, if your PC can run Crysis then you should be set for a while!).

CPU - Intel Core2Duo E6750 - £114.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130484
GPU - GeForce 8800 GT 512MB - £163.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139108
Motherboard - Nvidia nForce 650i Socket 775 - £51.96
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/121169
PSU - 600W ATX12V - £31.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124926
RAM - 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit - £29.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129954
HDD - SATA 250GB 7200RPM - £44.07
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124733
DVD - 20x DVD±R Burner - £14.95
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/138748
Case - ATX Midi Tower Computer Case - £12.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/119590
OS - Microsoft Windows XP Home with SP2 - 51.83
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/114048

Also added a cheapo 12mm fan to make sure it doesnt overheat
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/63281 - £1.49



Great system. I bet the Crysis recommended spec doesn't take into accout overclocking. With the Intel dual cores being great overclockers could get a cheaper one (4300 or something like that) and oc it to around the spec of a standard 6750 which would mean about £50 less.

And as the other poster said the cost of Windows might be negated if you already have a copy which takes this system down to about £400. I think Ebuyer are doing free delivery on orders over a certain value too.
#20
Good idea to start this up, at least this way people, as a whole can make up a good PC

K
banned#21
Exilon has pretty much specced up exactly what I would have written.

Except personally, I'd have chucked in a few extra pounds for a P35 board for a little more upgrade assurance. But hey, who knows whats around the corner eh...
#22
Surely just better off with the recent dx2250 pc with a gfx card update, no dodgy celerons there.
#23
Benjimoron;1470181
Surely just better off with the recent dx2250 pc with a gfx card update, no dodgy celerons there.


Celerons are not dodgy, it is just that unfortunately, they're almost never ever sold with adequate specs... This particular Celeron chip is a dual core baby that would probably put the older single core expensive Pentium chips to shame.
#24
Hard disks are like courier companies. Everyone has a horror story about at least one.

But it's almost always a different one.
#25
This doesn't sound like too bad a spec for a general home PC but it wouldn't be a good gaming rig.
#26
Anyone thinking of building their own PC shouldnt be buying a case and PSU for £12 in my opinion. Have a read here of the Proposed Specs and use their expertise, not ebuyers!

http://www.buildyourown.org.uk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28033

CPU:E4500 £75-80
MOBO:Asus P5B £55-60 P5K for quad core and 45nm CPUs £70
RAM:Geil 2GB Ultra RAM £35-40
PSU/CASE:Antec Sonata III £70-75
HDD:Samsung Spinpoint 250GB £35-40 500GB £55-60
GPU:X1950 Pro £95-100
OPTICAL DRIVE:Samsung SH-S203/BEBN £18-22
TOTAL PRICE £383-417


It might cost more but this will play games twice as well as the OPs spec!
#27
Not too bad, but replace that Samsung drive with a Pioneer, those are the only dvd burners worth having.
banned#28
beauchampy
poor quality case& I wouldn't touch a maxtor disk with a barge pole. graphics card will be a nightmare with vista x64 too (as all radeons are). personally i've seen better deals from pre-built machines like dell.

voted cold, sorry.


i agree.

theres no way in a million years this is a gaming pc, value or otherwise. voted cold
banned#29
btw, I just read your last line.

If you had "sold" this deal as being a cheap PC - then definately it would be good.

But you are completely unfairly selling this as a gaming PC. it is in no way whatsoever a gaming pc. its never been a gaming pc. its an awful awful gaming pc. Please dont buy this thinking it will play any of the latest games with any kind of success.

I've voted cold, and I'm also going to request the mods rename this deal. Its a good deal for a PC, but I feel very sorry for anyone who has gone on your advice and bought this thinking its a gaming PC. It really really isn't.

Oh and your comment about "people voting cold must have seen a better deal"... it doesnt really work like that.

Its like me posting a deal saying "Excellent Plasma TV - ONLY £100!!!" and it actually being a 14inch portable TV.
#30
I'd disagree, because it seems with many system builders that simply including a graphics card that is not an on-board chip classifies it as a gaming PC.

In this case, this would run a lot of games very nice - certainly anything on the source engine.
#31
I've not build a PC in a few years, but I seem to remember needing things like a lead to go from the HDD/DVD/CD drives to the motherboard, and from the DVD drive to the soundcard. If anyone is planning to use one of the lists of components in this thread to do their first build they should note that they're not complete lists of everything you need.
#32
vibeone
Oh and your comment about "people voting cold must have seen a better deal"... it doesnt really work like that.

Why not?
vibeone

Its like me posting a deal saying "Excellent Plasma TV - ONLY £100!!!" and it actually being a 14inch portable TV.

It's either a good deal for the spec and price or it isn't - it's that simple. If anyone can find a better deal for less money for a similar spec, then it's a cold deal - otherwise it isn't... ;-) I don't see anyone posting anything cheaper, or a better spec for the same money.... that makes it hot. :thumbsup:
If someone posted a deal for a new red Ferrari at £500, some muppet on here would vote cold because they don't like red! :p
banned#33
The deal is marked up badly.

What I mean is:

the spec/price point might be good, but it doesnt make it a gaming pc.

Its not fair to call it that, because people will buy it believing it is a gaming pc. which it isnt.

that to me, makes the price/spec irrelevant.

Why did he say it was a gaming PC? I just don't get how anyone could ever consider this a gaming PC.

but basically Koma... if I found a 14inch tv for a really good price, but posted it as "Excellent Plasma TV" - youd vote it hot?

Right OK Then.....
#34
If it was an excellent 14 inch plasma TV for a better price than other similar ones, then maybe I would! ;-) Like I said the post is either a good deal for the spec and money or it's not.... nuff said! :thumbsup:
banned#35
and the title of the deal doesnt matter then? even if its misleading?

I'm gonna title all the deals I post as Bottle of Vimto from now on then, since you seem to be happy to ignore it.
#36
onion
I've not build a PC in a few years, but I seem to remember needing things like a lead to go from the HDD/DVD/CD drives to the motherboard, and from the DVD drive to the soundcard.


The soundcard and cd drive haven't required a direct connection since windows xp.
#37
you really shouldn't be recommending maxtor hard disks to anyone, and a celeron for games?!
#38
Exactly

A modern gaming rig should be able to comfortably run Crysis, if it can't do that, then it isn't a gaming PC, simple as.
#39
Spark;1471195
Exactly

A modern gaming rig should be able to comfortably run Crysis, if it can't do that, then it isn't a gaming PC, simple as.


I have to disagree with that. See this Steam Survey http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

An overwhelming number of gamers are still using old single core computer with the FX5200 or the Radeon 9600 at XGA resolution and this computer represents a decent introdution to Gaming at this price. You should be able to play Half Life 2 and Quake 4 quite comfortably.

To say that Crysis is the end of it all is an overstatement surely.
#40
Hats off to Siliconbits for his effort. However, I look down the list and I see mostly outdated or entry level components, all at entry level prices. To me, that isn't really what I look for in HOT deal. For a hot deal I want to get something above and beyond expectation for the price point. This looks like you get what you pay for, which is quite a different matter.

As for this new "rule for hotness"(!?!) about finding a better deal in the past 24/48 hour window, I would suggest people could just wait another day or two. After all, they will own a PC long enough to regret their impatience if they don't like what they get.

Sorry, Siliconbits, but it doesn't get a hot vote from me.

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