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Dual HDD Networked Attached Storage (SATA) £70.21

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9y, 8m agoFound 9 years, 8 months ago
As an alternative to the many external USB drives that are on offer this seems to represent good value to me for £70.21 delivered (Hotukdeals member price). Adding your own drive(s, means you get to use the brand of drive that you prefer(trust.

This Dual HDD NAS enclosure allows you to turn SATA hard drives, old or new, into an external NAS drive, making data even easier to share on a network.

Just as a router allows you to share a single Internet connection without the need for any particular computer to be turned on, a NAS (Network Attached Storage) hard drive allows you to share a drive full of data without needing any particular computer to be turned on.

Supports RAID and JBOD functions so you can even install 2 drives to expand data capacity up to 1 Terabyte (TB).

Features:
- Supports RAID and JBOD functions so you can even install 2 drives to expand data capacity up to 1 Terabyte (TB) (500GB x2).
- Provides an instant share of photos, videos, music and data over your network.
- Easy configuration using the web based management application - no software installation required.
- Built-in SAMBA server for cross-platform transfer among different operating systems.
- Built-in FTP server to provide Internet data transfer between external users.
- Built-in USB printer server - just connect your printer to the enclosure's USB port to enable printer sharing without occupying any PC's resources.
- Easy installation and low support cost, suitable for home or office networks.
- Aluminium housing with large fan design to prevent overheating

Specifications:
- Interface: RJ45 (LAN), USB1.1 (for print server)
- Data Transfer Rate: Up to 8MB/s (networking)
- Partition configuration: FAT32/ EXT2 EXT3
- RAID support: RAID 1 / RAID 0

Supported Protocol:
- TCP/IP, NBNS (Net BIOS Name Server), Microsoft Networks (CIFS/SMB), DHCP Server/Client (Auto detection), SNTP Client

- Weight: 700g (excluding hard drive)
- Dimensions: 120 x 180 x 80mm

Minimum System Requirements:
- Apple Safari, Linus Mozilla, IE 5.x, Netscape 6.2 up,
- Win 98SE / ME / 2000 / 2003 / XP / Vista
- Mac OS X

What's In The Box?
- Dual HSS NAS (no hard drives included)
- Securing screws
- Ethernet Cable
- Power Adapter
- Driver CD (with user manual)
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#1
Sounds good. I emailed SVP to find out more about the device.
#2
look very good... any more details/ratings very welcome!
#3
a manufacturer would be useful SVP!
#4
This is exactly what I asked SVP for :) Manufacturer, model and user guide.
#5
bravo kommunist ;-)
banned#6
This seems to be a pretty damn good deal seeing as the unit supports RAID and is a printer server too! Printer servers by themselves can cost almost as much as this does.
#7
note if you format in fat32 the largest size of a single file is 4gb. Would be a limitation if u intend to store larger single files in this way.

This seems to be common on NAS boxes though.

It does also support EXT2 and 3 though.
#8
Given the ever decreasing cost of hard drives and compared to similar offerings from D-Link this has got to be a better investment than buying a single external USB drive. 1TB of online storage for £200ish...yes please.
#9
Shame its only 10/100 and no gigabit LAN.

Do you know the specs of the box, ie: CPU/RAM etc onboard?

Can the USB port be used to add an external drive or is it printers only?

Does it have any fans at all?

Nice deal, the PDF on the site is a bit amateurish but fine.

Would like to know the full specs, am looking at the £220 QNAP NAS server but if this is as good (apart from the LAN speed and USB) then I will save some cash and get this :) )
#10
kozicka
Shame its only 10/100 and no gigabit LAN.

Do you know the specs of the box, ie: CPU/RAM etc onboard?

Can the USB port be used to add an external drive or is it printers only?

Does it have any fans at all?

Nice deal, the PDF on the site is a bit amateurish but fine.

Would like to know the full specs, am looking at the £220 QNAP NAS server but if this is as good (apart from the LAN speed and USB) then I will save some cash and get this :) )

I wouldn't worry about the lack of gigabit LAN too much, or the CPU etc. Just consider the capabilites of the device, can it do the jobs that you have in mind? I use a NSLU2 with 2*250GB disks connected to a 54G wireless ethernet bridge to stream DIVX and MP3 around my house. It only has 32Mb of Ram and a CPU that is probably little better than an old Spectrum ZX81 but it works very well indeed.
#11
wrong thread
#12
PNE
I wouldn't worry about the lack of gigabit LAN too much, or the CPU etc. Just consider the capabilites of the device, can it do the jobs that you have in mind? I use a NSLU2 with 2*250GB disks connected to a 54G wireless ethernet bridge to stream DIVX and MP3 around my house. It only has 32Mb of Ram and a CPU that is probably little better than an old Spectrum ZX81 but it works very well indeed.


Yeah I know, but transferring 100's of GBs of data onto the drive will be ridiculously slow on 100Mbps compared to 1Gbps, and if I cant use my USB HD to transfer data then you are left with just the LAN to transfer data.

Its only for home use so I'm not worried about the max number of connections etc, but it needs to be fast enough for streaming to a few users simultaneously, so knowing the chipset etc onboard would be useful (or a model number so I can Google it).

Also wondering if 2x500GB drives is its max, as I would prefer to get 2x750GB drives, 1 now and one again in the future.

Still a very good deal and voted hot, just I can see a few points where it might dissapoint some people (such as me :-D )
#13
Yeah I know, but transferring 100's of GBs of data onto the drive will be ridiculously slow on 100Mbps compared to 1Gbps, and if I cant use my USB HD to transfer data then you are left with just the LAN to transfer data.

Do you get more that 100Mb/sec write speeds on your sata disks?
#14
I just read the manual on their site. It seems that the device is based on StorLink Centroid NAS reference design. Here is a bit more info.

In this case, USB is 1.1 only, which clearly isn't intended for external USB HDD. It also seem to have fan (at least they mention it in FAQ section of UG). SVP states that 500GBx2 is maximum capacity.

PNE
Slug's CPU is not that sluggish you know :) 266MHz (de-underclocked) is clearly more than enough for what it is. I wish they'd through in more RAM though.
#15
dc2447
Do you get more that 100Mb/sec write speeds on your sata disks?


Nope, but i get more than 100Mbps on them.

SATA drives can sustain around 30MB a sec, whereas a 100Mbps connection is at max 10MB a sec sustained, which is why gigabit ethernet is useful, although your drives cant max it out its still around 3x faster, just on a single drive alone (for those that have RAID0 etc on their main PC)
#16
If a little old NSLU2 can stream to multiple concurrent clients I suspect that this will too. As for the initial data loading why not just add the disks to your existing PC and copy the data across before putting them in this device. Asides from that just set a copy going before you got to bed and in the morning it will be done. No problem.
#17
SATA drives can sustain around 30MB


= 240Mbit a sec - can they really write that fast in home PC's?

Just curious
#18
Kommunist
I just read the manual on their site. It seems that the device is based on StorLink Centroid NAS reference design. Here is a bit more info.

In this case, USB is 1.1 only, which clearly isn't intended for external USB HDD. It also seem to have fan (at least they mention it in FAQ section of UG). SVP states that 500GBx2 is maximum capacity.

PNE
Slug's CPU is not that sluggish you know :) 266MHz (de-underclocked) is clearly more than enough for what it is. I wish they'd through in more RAM though.


I have mine de-underclocked and love the little beasty and like you wish it had more RAM. Will there ever be a new version of it from Linksys?
#19
Kommunist
I just read the manual on their site. It seems that the device is based on StorLink Centroid NAS reference design. Here is a bit more info.

In this case, USB is 1.1 only, which clearly isn't intended for external USB HDD. It also seem to have fan (at least they mention it in FAQ section of UG). SVP states that 500GBx2 is maximum capacity.

PNE
Slug's CPU is not that sluggish you know :) 266MHz (de-underclocked) is clearly more than enough for what it is. I wish they'd through in more RAM though.



Thanks for the extra info Kommunist. I'm not too bothered by the USB port being only 1.1 as it is I think only intended for connecting a printer, which should be fast enough for all but photographic printers. Certainly USB1.1 is fast enough for the printers I have connected to Netgear WGPS606 wireless print server.
#20
I think there were some rumours about NSLU3 but it doesn't seem Linksys is interested in upgrading the device. :(
#21
seems a bit pricey considering it comes with no drives. amazon had the gigabit wd-mybook with 2x500gb for 199ukp the other day. this is more comparable to the nslug or drivestation.

with sata150 you see about 75MB/sec average, but that's megabytes per second. ethernet is measured in megabits, i.e. 100mbps (about 8MB/sec), which is what the spec states, with gigabit you could manage 10x that.
#22
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5185/hdtunebenchmarkst332062ui8.png

Most modern drives will easily manage over 30MB/s sustained, so you need gigabit LAN to fully utilise them on a NAS. Nothing wrong with 10/100 as long as you dont mind waiting a bit longer to transfer stuff.

Dont think you can put your drives in your PC first and then put them in the NAS box, I have a feeling that it will require a format when you put them in the NAS box, but would like to know otherwise.
#23
Thanks for the find BNE and all the extra useful info guys :)
#24
You format them first if required in the NAS then transfer them to the PC for data to be loaded. You could then use a Linux Live CD to boot the PC or one of the windows utilities that allow you to write to EXT2/3 format disks.
#25
sej7278
seems a bit pricey considering it comes with no drives. amazon had the gigabit wd-mybook with 2x500gb for 199ukp the other day. this is more comparable to the nslug or drivestation.

with sata150 you see about 75MB/sec average, but that's megabytes per second. ethernet is measured in megabits, i.e. 100mbps (about 8MB/sec), which is what the spec states, with gigabit you could manage 10x that.



Are you sure the wd-mybook was a NAS device? I though that the wd NAS devices were called NetCentres (at least mine is).:?
#26
I've got a Linux box sat here but its an old machine and not where the main data is stored, got a live CD so I guess I could try that route.
#27
kozicka
I've got a Linux box sat here but its an old machine and not where the main data is stored, got a live CD so I guess I could try that route.


Bit of a pain I admit but you'll only do it once.
#28
The Amazon one was without network. The WD MyBook World Edition 1TB (NAS) might cost in a region of 250-280 when it'll finally appear on market.

If EXT2/3 access on Win machine is needed, then use this driver. No need for Linux Live CDs.
#29
kozicka
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5185/hdtunebenchmarkst332062ui8.png

Most modern drives will easily manage over 30MB/s sustained, so you need gigabit LAN to fully utilise them on a NAS. Nothing wrong with 10/100 as long as you dont mind waiting a bit longer to transfer stuff.

Dont think you can put your drives in your PC first and then put them in the NAS box, I have a feeling that it will require a format when you put them in the NAS box, but would like to know otherwise.


Aren't these read speeds not write speeds

leia:/drivestation$ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda1
Password:

/dev/sda1:
Timing cached reads: 1224 MB in 2.00 seconds = 610.71 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 50 MB in 3.13 seconds = 15.97 MB/sec
#30
kozicka

Most modern drives will easily manage over 30MB/s sustained, so you need gigabit LAN to fully utilise them on a NAS. Nothing wrong with 10/100 as long as you dont mind waiting a bit longer to transfer stuff.

Dont think you can put your drives in your PC first and then put them in the NAS box, I have a feeling that it will require a format when you put them in the NAS box, but would like to know otherwise.


wahey, pretty pictures ;-)
#31
dc2447
Aren't these read speeds not write speeds

Yes but I can write to my drive at 30MB/s sustained and thats with it fairly full, read and write is about the same for drives, depending on setup.
#32
Just got confirmation from SVP. The device got Storlink CPU indeed. SVP says it is sl3316-g but I can't find any information about it, so I think it is sl3316-R.
More information here.
#33
Quoting NAS speeds is all fine and dandy but has anyone tried configuring one of these?? I have had a NAS drive for a couple of months - got it to work once with the firewall turned off! Now just use the USB plug . . . .
#34
Configuring to do what?
#35
Sorry have I got this wrong - my HDD connects to my router with NW cable. I have followed the instructions and looked on the net without success.
#36
Yes, you should connect it to your router with supplied cable (or any other network cable as long as it is 'straight' one). Check that your router got DHCP enabled so that it'll issue IP address to your HDD.
Then go to router and check what IP it gave to HDD. Normally, NAS devices got some kind of a 'web' interface, so if you start your browser and type in HDD IP, then you should see configuration page.
You might need to add that IP to 'safe' area in your Firewall setup and if you are using proxy to access internet, then you should specify 'no proxy for local addresses' or to give HDD IP as an exclusion from proxy rule.
#37
Thanks for the reply - Yes I can see the configuration page but I cant map a network drive to the device - I think the problem may be ZONEALARM stopping the connection.
#38
Kommunist
Just got confirmation from SVP. The device got Storlink CPU indeed. SVP says it is sl3316-g but I can't find any information about it, so I think it is sl3316-R.
More information here.


Kommunist I don't think it is the one you have linked too as that has 4 IDE interfaces and upto 128Mb RAM. However as you're obviously a secret detective perhaps you can discover the truth...its out there somewhere!:thumbsup:
#39
You can add the HDD to 'Trusted Zone' or whatever it is called (I am away from my home PC now, so can't tell).
Then ensure that your PC and NAS are using the same Workgroup (for example, 'MSHOME'). Then go to My Network Places->Entire Network->Microsoft Windows Network and you should see your NAS there. It could come under some weird name (my Slug's name is something like Lkg919879), which you should be able to change in yout NAS setup. But even if you can't change it, who cares? :)
#40
PNE
Kommunist I don't think it is the one you have linked too as that has 4 IDE interfaces and upto 128Mb RAM. However as you're obviously a secret detective perhaps you can discover the truth...its out there somewhere!:thumbsup:

This is just chipset. They can use all or some of its functions, so nothing wrong here :)
According to Storlink website, the 3316R is the only one with RAID capabilties, so I think this is the one. Unless they decided to do software RAID on SVP device, of course :)

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