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Dynamode 85Mbps Homeplug Adapter - Twin Pack £43.99 @ ebuyer

£43.99 @ Ebuyer
Quick and simple networking from Dynamode Home plug uses the copper power cables that run through your building as it would a network cable. Just plug one Homeplug near to your Computer/Router a… Read More
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9y, 1m agoFound 9 years, 1 month ago
Quick and simple networking from Dynamode

Home plug uses the copper power cables that run through your building as it would a network cable.

Just plug one Homeplug near to your Computer/Router and connect with the patch cable provided. Then plug the other Homeplug anywhere in your building and connect anything you like!!!

Brilliant for

* Homes to share the internet between multiple Computers.
* Small businesses to share Network printers.
* Online gaming anywhere in the building.
* Video or music streaming.
* Compliment your wireless network to eliviate 'Dead Spots'.
* Replacing that 20m Cat 5 cable.
* Take anywhere portability.

Whats in the box?

* 2 x Homeplug Adapters
* 2 x Cat 5 Network cables
* 1 x Powerline software for Windows
* 1 x Full Instructions


Features:

· Use the home's existing power line

· Easy to install

· Allow user to connect PCs and other devices conveniently, at any power outlet

· Up to 85Mbps data rate on the power line

· 56-bits DES Link Encryption for security

· 5 LEDs indicate status


Specifications
Specification Value
Product Description Dynamode Homeplg-E bridge
Packaged Quantity 2 (specifications are for single item)
Device Type Bridge
Form Factor External
Data Transfer Rate 14 Mbps
Data Link Protocol Ethernet, Fast Ethernet, HomePlug 1.0
Features 56-bit encryption
Compliant Standards IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.3u
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#1
seems like best price around for a twin pack of these homeplugs? only 85mbps but quicker than typical wifi and most routers are only 100mbps anyway!
#2
its not £43.99 unless you add something else to get free delivery.
#3
MarreZ
its not £43.99 unless you add something else to get free delivery.


well done hot shot!
#4
kyleb
only 85mbps but quicker than typical wifi and most routers are only 100mbps anyway!


You won't actually get 85Mbps out of these, more likely to be 15 to 40Mbps. :whistling: If you want performance somewhere around 100mbps you'll need some homeplug av gear that claims it does 200Mbps on the box :-D
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fat-pudding
You won't actually get 85Mbps out of these, more likely to be 15 to 40Mbps. :whistling: If you want performance somewhere around 100mbps you'll need some homeplug av gear that claims it does 200Mbps on the box :-D


not unless theres a fault on your electrical!, i get 85mbs constant and thats thru surge protected gang sockets on seperate rings
#6
We have these and they're spot on for my son's X-box, the wireless network was ruddy useless and these have cheerd him up no end. Makes my connection grind to a halt as he seems to hog the bandwith, but ah well
#7
These are superb if like me you have old copper wiring in your house
the modern stuff seems to make it go slower
#8
tessb
We have these and they're spot on for my son's X-box, the wireless network was ruddy useless and these have cheerd him up no end. Makes my connection grind to a halt as he seems to hog the bandwith, but ah well


lol the plus side is u can "ground" the sprog by unplugging!
#9
maddogb
not unless theres a fault on your electrical!, i get 85mbs constant and thats thru surge protected gang sockets on seperate rings


No, you don't... just because the data rate is 85Mbps doesn't mean you can chuck that over them, the limit is around 60Mbps in *perfect* conditions for actual data transfer.
#10
BT were giving free ones with their Vision package, but watch out for Excessive power comsumption, the BT ones ran at around 40W each, so if these get warm be sure to unplug or switch off when not in use... otherwise its like leaving a 80W bulb on 24/7 - not environmentally or wallet friendly...
#11
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JABWootton;1847406
These are superb if like me you have old copper wiring in your house
the modern stuff seems to make it go slower


What "modern stuff?" Only the colour of the cabling is different now.

Domestic ring mains wiring is copper, always was copper, except for a brief time when copper was in such short supply worldwide, aluminium was used, but that was years ago, and so rare most electricians have never seen it!

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#12
fat-pudding
No, you don't... just because the data rate is 85Mbps doesn't mean you can chuck that over them, the limit is around 60Mbps in *perfect* conditions for actual data transfer.


based on?
#13
The 85Mbps type run using "upto" 4Watts maximum, not 40.
#14
maddogb
based on?


Actually, I got it wrong... there is only a 35 Mbps maximum for the intellon based chipset stuff. Read this paper http://www.intellon.com/pdfs/whitepaper_PLCPerformanceTesting.pdf
which is from the website of the manufacturer of the 85Mbps chipset. Specifically pages 6 and 9. The graph on page 9 shows that the 85Mbps chipset in benchmarking will have an average of just 11Mbps and drops off to nothing at 35Mbps, and with the 200Mbps AV powerline gear that it drops off at around 90Mbps with average throughput being just 45Mbps.

The reason for such low speeds is that by the time you have to allow for the overhead of the transmission protocols and that actual wiring you can't hit anywhere near the actual "physical" data rate to transfer data around. It's a marketing scam that is pretty dishonest to be honest.

If you poke around more in depth on the Intellon website then there is more useful information on there but you do have to keep in mind that they sell the chipsets that make these products so they don't shout too loudly about what the real speeds are.

There is also lots of papers detailing this on the homeplug website which can be found here http://www.homeplug.org/products/whitepapers/

These will give even more background and information which will confirm what I am saying.
#15
Interesting stuff will give it a read later on when i get home from work.
Though on the down sides to the technology theres a lot in there that also applies to wireless technologies.
Despite the figures i successfully managed to stream h.264 1080p content between 2 points using a couple of 85Mbs adapters whereas wireless failed hopelessly to manage even a decent web connection between the two points only a few yards away
As far as usability goes the 11Mbs adapters outperformed [email protected] between the same two points.
I think with the rising levels of wireless kit being used in homes i am tending to lean to this technology more and more until we have a better understanding of the risks etc involved.
#16
You would almost certainly see a benefit as 54Mbps wireless never actually runs at that speed either, protocol overhead and crypto overheads+interference drop the speed down even more (generally) than powerline gear suffers. H.264 encoded 1080p will still be ok at 30Mbps but if you get stuck with a bad connection using this gear then you will have a problem. I still think the original deal is pretty good just it wouldn't be great if someone really needed the bandwidth as they'd be better off with some of the 200Mbps gear.

I recently changed my home network so that all the gear in fixed locations (desktop computer, xbox 360, network camera for watching the baby etc.) are all connected via powerline adaptors as the extra bandwidth is helpful and having a more reliable network is brilliant. The only things I have on my home network that use the wireless is 2 laptops but what I would like to see is people building powerline networking gear into laptop chargers and computer psu's which would make this technology really useful.
#17
fat-pudding
but what I would like to see is people building powerline networking gear into laptop chargers and computer psu's which would make this technology really useful.


thats a really good idea
#18
What about security on these? what if you are in a block of flats or something similar?
#19
nihcaj
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What "modern stuff?" Only the colour of the cabling is different now.

Domestic ring mains wiring is copper, always was copper, except for a brief time when copper was in such short supply worldwide, aluminium was used, but that was years ago, and so rare most electricians have never seen it!

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Understand what you are saying nihcaj
was referring to the thickness of the copper wire
in my house the old copper wire is thicker than the "Modern Wiring" you get in new houses
I get higher speeds than my mate who livs in a 8 year old house with "Modern Wiring"
#20
You won't actually get 85Mbps out of these, more likely to be 15 to 40Mbps. If you want performance somewhere around 100mbps


On these thats around right. I use the 200mbps ones and get between 40 - 60mbps.

These are a great piece of kit I have been using them for years. SO much better than wireless for setting up a network but more importantly for streaming data. These work over 4 floors in our house I stream movies from my pc in the office in the cellar all the way up to our bedroom in the loft. No packet loss, no lag. Great for online gamming as well.

This isnt really that cheap for 85mbps adapters they are quite old technology now really but still much better for online gamming, moving data or streaming media around your house than wireless..
#21
You won't actually get 85Mbps out of these, more likely to be 15 to 40Mbps. If you want performance somewhere around 100mbps you'll need some homeplug av gear that claims it does 200Mbps on the box


On these thats around right. I use the 200mbps ones and get between 40 - 60mbps but they go through 2 consumer units AND the mains board. People need to understand that they get nothing like 15 - 40mbps out of their 54g wifi connections. You struggle to get 8mbps stable out of wifi usually alot less plus you get packet loss.

These are a great piece of kit I have been using them for years. SO much better than wireless for setting up a network but more importantly for streaming data. More importantly they are plug and play, no software or setup required. These work over 4 floors in our house. I stream movies from my pc in the office in the cellar all the way up to our bedroom in the loft. No packet loss, no lag. Great for online gamming as well.

This isnt really that cheap for 85mbps adapters they are quite old technology now really but still much better for online gamming, moving data or streaming media around your house than wireless..

What about security on these? what if you are in a block of flats or something similar?


There is encryption on them. And someone trying to access your signal would also need the same type and make of adapter as well, a normal network connection wont read the signal off these anyway. These are MUCH safer than wifi.
#22
marcosdjcm
What about security on these? what if you are in a block of flats or something similar?


You're still seperated from your neighbours as the same ringmain and meter set-up which means you get a sperate electricity bill from your neighbours will keep your netwrok seperate from them too.

For example if you plug a TV into your socket you're not using your neighbours electricity are you.
#23
Thats true but I use very powerful 200mbps adapters that actually work through the consumer units and mains boards. Also our house is Victorian and like many old properties shares a power cable with the semi next door (but sperate metres) theoretically its possible but very unlikely for the reasons I mentioned.

As I said these are much much safer than a wifi connection, most of which use wep that can be very easily hacked.
#24
Considering it's 85Mbps, strange how the specifications say "Data Transfer Rate 14 Mbps"
#25
I've been using the 85mbps Solwise Homeplugs for quite a while now and am very happy with the performance. The PowerPacket Utility software that comes with the Homeplug is currently reporting 80.29mbps between the PC I'm currently using and the other homeplug wired via ethernet to our router. Both on ground floor and in seperate rooms. Our house is approx 9 years old. I have one other homeplug on the 1st floor and get approx 49mbps to that one. How accurate the Utilty is is another question.
#26
I've got some 200Mbps homeplugs and they work great - no complaints whatsoever, you just plug them in and off you go.

I don't know what bandwidth I get as I haven't measured it, but it allows me to stream divx to my Xbox 360, so it can't be too bad.

It's well known that 85mbps or 200mbps are 'theoretical' maximums - you will never get those speeds. Plenty of info on the 'net about this. That's the same as wireless though. Even still, seeing as your broadband is running at probably no more than 8Mpbs these babies are still fine for surfing/downloading/xbox or whatever.

Good price. Hotted!
#27
anything can be hacked today if they really want to so dont think your safe cause u dont use wireless, the chances are that most of the people in the uK dont even have a descent security package, nothing will stop someone stealing your credit card info when theres someone the other end intercepting your details and selling them on, these plugs do work well but there not the speeds they say and yes its an old tech now suprised they havent done summit better yet, i keep reading that wireless is causing some big health issues now so if u get a migrain playing on the wifi lappy all night u know why....lol
#28
PFC Hudson
You're still seperated from your neighbours as the same ringmain and meter set-up which means you get a sperate electricity bill from your neighbours will keep your netwrok seperate from them too.

For example if you plug a TV into your socket you're not using your neighbours electricity are you.


That's true but I've seen those (unencrypted audio) baby monitors work between two adjoining neighbours' flats.
I'd imagine it's as much about which electrical phase the two properties are connected to plus how far apart they are.
#29
i have the comtrend powerline plugs(BT) how much are they costing me to run?
#30
Interesting.

This is a decent deal, though not revolutionary as these are all over Fleabay at about the £40 mark plus postage -- if you get them with something else, they're great.

I'm less interested in the speed (10Mbps would do the job if it was a reliable 10Mbps), more the reliability of this system. Given that it'll be half-duplex, the speed would NEVER reach 85Mbps no matter what, but a solid 15Mbps would be enough for most people I'd suggest.

As for security, DES isn't secure. If this is a problem, as I have suggested to others in the past, buy a couple of cheap Cisco routers and VPN between your two endpoints -- far more secure than DES quite honestly.

Anyway, I'm rambling now, but how reliable are these things relative to the (frankly flaky) 802.11g?
#31
I changed from a 54mbs wifi network to these Homeplugs and I've never looked back. They just work - no lost or slow downs in connections etc. The product is brilliant but the deal is just okay.

If you live in a house with a more than two storeys then these are perfect for sharing an internet connection. If you want network speeds of more than about 30Mbs then install proper CAT5 cables and sockets.
#32
jasejames;1854739
Interesting.

This is a decent deal, though not revolutionary as these are all over Fleabay at about the £40 mark plus postage -- if you get them with something else, they're great.

I'm less interested in the speed (10Mbps would do the job if it was a reliable 10Mbps), more the reliability of this system. Given that it'll be half-duplex, the speed would NEVER reach 85Mbps no matter what, but a solid 15Mbps would be enough for most people I'd suggest.

As for security, DES isn't secure. If this is a problem, as I have suggested to others in the past, buy a couple of cheap Cisco routers and VPN between your two endpoints -- far more secure than DES quite honestly.

Anyway, I'm rambling now, but how reliable are these things relative to the (frankly flaky) 802.11g?


Do the ones on eBay come with 2 units or just one?
The security encryption doesn't matter unless your next door neighbour is a super hacker who uses Homeplugs himself and you share the same electrical line.
#33
Anyway, I'm rambling now, but how reliable are these things relative to the (frankly flaky) 802.11g?


Completely reliable, completely stable. I have been using these at home and work for around 6 years now in one form or another. I sold the originals on ebay not long ago after I upgraded my homeplug network to the 200mbps plugs and they still worked perfectly. The main thing like I said was unlike wireless there is no packet loss very important for streaming video and online gamming. Also just about everything interefes with wifi these days, video senders, even wireless door bells or alarm sensors. I have a decent wifi router in the room next door and my signal strength can be as weak as 2 bars....
Its ok for browsing the net but useless for just about anything else.

These things are also plug and play no software to install very easy to setup. I have a mate who runs a company that sets up office networks I was telling him about these for years and he just thought they were a **** fad. He got a set in the end to play with in his house and could not believe how good they were.

He now uses them as a very cheap and easy way to set up small simple office networks without having to run newtork cable all over the show.

All I would say if you want to stream hd video you will definately need the 200mbps plugs for he extra bandwidth....

But for streaming normal video, divx, downloading, online gamming, web surfing etc these are more than adequate. Performance, reliability and ease of set up wise they completely wipe the floor with a wifi setup. Anyone who has actually used them will agree with this...
#34
kyleb
well done hot shot!


You ARE supposed to quote with delivery costs

MarreZ was just pointing out what you omitted and has probably saved a barrage of posts saying that they couldn't get it for the quoted price.
#35
I always wondered can you use these with multi extension cables, and is there a drop off in signal quality? I use a 8 socket extension with my PC - and would like to have one of these connected to it rather than trailing a wire from the master socket.
#36
This sounds very cool indeed and might be just the thing for my 20 quid, freshly softmodded to XBMC media device :thumbsup:
#37
It's Ring FINAL not Ring MAIN as thats part of the national grid! lol

/pedant
#38
alot of u are on mixed thoughts about the mbps speed ratings and wotnot

how many people will actually be using anything over 10mbps?

Most internet speeds are way below 8mbps. And this is mostly what people will be using these for. Better than wireless routers and you dont get the usual wireless issues that so many thousands do.

Great find. heat!
#39
I've had these in my basket for a couple of weeks now. Very tempted but haven't yet comitted.
#40
RedOnRed
I've had these in my basket for a couple of weeks now. Very tempted but haven't yet comitted.


Exactly the same here.. ;-)

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