Ebuyer Advanced Gaming PC, AMD Phenom 9850, 4GB RAM, 1TB HDD, ATI HD4870, NO OS £399.96 delivered - HotUKDeals
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Before you say build it yourself not everyone knows how to build, have time to learn, have time to build or as smart as me.
Processor
* AMD Quad Core Phenom 9850 Quad Core Processor 2.5Ghz,
* 4MB Cache
Memory
* 4GB DDR2 800Mhz
* 8GB maximum
* Memory Slot: 4 x DIMM (2 Free)
Hard Drive
* 1TB SATA300
* 32MB Cache
Optical Drive
* Super multi DVDRW
Software
* No Operating System
Display
* Monitor Not Included
Graphics
* ATI 512MB HD4870 Graphics Card
Networking
* Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN, Realtek® RTL8111B
Power Supply
* 500W PSU
Dimensions
* Width 190 mm
* Depth 480 mm
* Height 360 mm
Interfaces
* 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
* 1 x PS/2 keyboard port
* 1 x PS/2 mouse port
* 1 x Parallel port
* 8 x USB 2.0 ports
* 1 x RJ45 LAN port
* 2 x DVI Ports
Warranty
* 1 Year Manufacturer Warranty

There is no operating system so er install ubuntu on it or windows 7. Windows xp and vista should be fine too.
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#1
plus postage of £12.25 for me
#2
Bully
plus postage of £12.25 for me


free delivery! How did you get £12.25 shipping charge?
#3
Computerman
free delivery! How did you get £12.25 shipping charge?


No free delivery option , just £12.25, not a bad price i guess, i mind being quoted almost £30 before for shipping a pc from ebuyer so they must have changed couriers to N.ireland.
#4
Bully
No free delivery option , just £12.25, still good though, i mind being quoted almost £30 before for shipping a pc from ebuyer so they must have changed couriers to N.ireland.


After adding to basket you have to click the drop down arrow (to the right of next day delivery} for the other del options. Super saver delivery is near the bottom.

I see you've added the NI info. Free shipping to UK mainland only.
#5
Something to bear in mind is it has no operating system installed.
#6
A couple of questions for the techies on this board:

What would the power comsumption be like? Does the fact it has a 500 watt power supply mean higher consumption if only used as a fast "normal" computer.

What would the sound quality be like - as good as a cheapish Soundblaster sound card

Many thanks - very tempted
1 Like #7
The 500w means that the load it can take from the components inside it.

Most PC's don't draw anywhere near that, the whole 750w, 800w, 1000w!! etc PSU's are a waste of time and not needed, regardless of what anyone says.

The audio will be fine, not as good as a creative or similar addin card but still perfectly good for gaming and such.
#8
ben500
Something to bear in mind is it has no operating system installed.


This is a very good point, you will need to shell out another £60 to £150 for whatever OS you want on the thing.
#9
BishBoshUK
This is a very good point, you will need to shell out another £60 to £150 for whatever OS you want on the thing.


well i did say in the topic you can install ubuntu or if you already downloaded the windows 7 beta you can install that. Windows 7 is only £30 if you are a student.
#10
regcar
What would the power comsumption be like? Does the fact it has a 500 watt power supply mean higher consumption if only used as a fast "normal" computer.

For the second question no, A power supply will be slightly less efficient if you're only using a small amount of it's capacity but it's just going to be a few percent on a good one.

However, the other components of the system WILL make it use more power than idling than a slower (brand new) computer. A 4870 might use 20W idling instead of the 5W a 4550 would use and the old high-end quad-core used in this will be in the same situation compared to a new energy efficient lower end quad-core like the Athlon II X4 600e.

regcar

What would the sound quality be like - as good as a cheapish Soundblaster sound card


I'd imagine even the entry level audigy (e.g. X-fi extreme audio) would be better than the onboard sound but onboard sound these days is supposed to be pretty good.
#11
Computerman
well i did say in the topic you can install ubuntu or if you already downloaded the windows 7 beta you can install that. Windows 7 is only £30 if you are a student.


Yeah but it's a bit pointless buying this kind of PC and putting ubuntu on it.
#12
Pretty hot deal. Infact its more than pretty hot. :thumbsup:
#13
rwgs
Yeah but it's a bit pointless buying this kind of PC and putting ubuntu on it.

Not necessarily, but you would have to be better than average with computers to make it worthwhile.
#14
rwgs
Yeah but it's a bit pointless buying this kind of PC and putting ubuntu on it.


I disagree entirely. Not my choice of distribution but Linux flies on hardware like this. Throw in the price tag for the OS and associated software and well...

You could say it's pointless using a bodged uniprocessor kernel with some multiprocessor afterthoughts grafted on on a quad core machine.
#15
well if you are buying this to play games ('Advanced Gaming PC') then theres no point having any sort of Linux distro installed. If you want Linux then you might as well get a PC with a less expensive GFX card and pay a lot less.
#16
GreyScale
well if you are buying this to play games ('Advanced Gaming PC') then theres no point having any sort of Linux distro installed. If you want Linux then you might as well get a PC with a less expensive GFX card and pay a lot less.


Ditto:thumbsup:
#17
Linux for Servers
Mac for Multimedia
Windows for Minesweeper

I swear by it.
#18
I play plenty of games on my primary PC, which runs Linux only... Unless you mean the better performance out of opengl on linux vs directx on windows allows you to get the same performance with cheaper hardware? That might be true but I've never tested...
#19
PR1
I play plenty of games on my primary PC, which runs Linux only... Unless you mean the better performance out of opengl on linux vs directx on windows allows you to get the same performance with cheaper hardware? That might be true but I've never tested...


Well, as 99.99% of modern commercial pc games are written for directx, you aren't going to get very far unless you spend hours configuring WINE to glitchily run a very small selection of games. Unless you are referring to old openGL games like Quake and/or freeware emulators/indie games, in which case there is still little point in buying a hefty spec gaming PC. Its a complete waste - Linux is great for many things, but modern gaming ain't one of them.
#20
looks nice spec but no OS plus i will need 64bit OS to play games like startrek-online and Warhammer-online that only works on xp and Vista plus a side directx10, btw what's the mobo is in this pc, just alittle worried about drivers and OS btw Linux wont work on these games, because of the licensing and not forgetting most new mobo only work on vista its alittle risky not knowing the mobo or if this supports all OS
#21
WINE does a pretty good job on some games. I've run Civilization IV very happily on Ubuntu using WINE. In that instance, I needed a good graphics card to get good performance. I believe Spore runs quite well too. WINE's come a long way in the last few years...
#22
So in a nutshell is this a good deal or not for a gaming machine?

I've already got an operating system to put on it btw..
#23
Anyone know what the motherboard is ?
#24
xeroc
Linux for Servers
Mac for Multimedia
Windows for Minesweeper

I swear by it.


A multimedia machine that doesn't support blu-ray?

sertraline
So in a nutshell is this a good deal or not for a gaming machine?

I've already got an operating system to put on it btw..


It's a decent price for a gaming machine, yes.
#25
Um this processor is not exactly ideal for gaming. But at this price, you could do worse.
banned#26
realblender
I dont like the processor for gaming.. rather have higher clocked dual core phenom


I agreed with you, I prefered processor of dual core phenom :p
#27
GreyScale
Well, as 99.99% of modern commercial pc games are written for directx, you aren't going to get very far unless you spend hours configuring WINE to glitchily run a very small selection of games. Unless you are referring to old openGL games like Quake and/or freeware emulators/indie games, in which case there is still little point in buying a hefty spec gaming PC. Its a complete waste - Linux is great for many things, but modern gaming ain't one of them.


Presume "modern commercial pc games" translates as "Windows games". I don't think I've used Wine for a couple of years, other than as a curiosity to see how it's getting on (or a beverage).

Personally, this PC for £400 is a good deal. This PC for £400 plus ~£70-150 for Windows (depending on version), maybe £100 for MS Office and I don't know £20 for AV? (probably per year) - Suddenly this looks a lot closer to £600-700 and you haven't even bought a game yet, which looks less hot.

I'll wait for the flames probably over graphic detail, but this is a great game for example - http://icculus.org/alienarena/rpa/aquire.html. Crank up the settings on first run. Also, nil cost. (legitimately) And open source.

There's plenty else even before you hit native commercial linux games (most ID software for one...)
#28
if you see any barebone pc's with new intel high end chip+ psu deals i would buy because video cards going dirt cheap atm i'am really looking at SLI myself CM Storm Scout Case and easy swap drives btw i did see a top gaming pc clp weeks ago with vista 64bit with intel med range chip for £650 but it was budget gaming pc i'll will have look for site agian but this had much better chip in it i think plus you get upgrade to windows 7 for 19 euro's > MEDION® Akoya® PC P7319D Medionshop site and also found dinopc with some great deals custom built check out Multimedia-PCs with DDR3 mobos :P £300-500
pc's there quite nice plus 3 year Warranty
#29
philthomas
Anyone know what the motherboard is ?


Ask on the ebuyer forum: you need to know this if you want to use it as a fast gaming pc. Hopefully, the chipset drivers and the sata drivers (if required) will be included on a cd with the pc.

Don't know why everyones talking about windows 7, anyone who's done any gaming know that you need to use XP if you want fast gaming.

You should still be able to get graphics drivers for the graphics card and xp drivers for the network card but you will need xp drivers for the motherboard and probably for the sata controller and probably xp drivers for the sound card. Drivers for vista or windows 7 MAY be backwardly compatible.
#30
xeroc
Linux for Servers
Mac for Multimedia
Windows for Minesweeper

I swear by it.


Linux for geeks
Macs for [email protected]
Windows for everyone else.

I swear by it
#31
centaurandrew
Linux for geeks
Macs for [email protected]
Windows for everyone else.

I swear by it


I'm wiv you.
#32
jasee
Don't know why everyones talking about windows 7, anyone who's done any gaming know that you need to use XP if you want fast gaming.



'Fast' yes, for real gamers who enjoy DX 10/10.1 and future 11 games, you will need vista or 7.

If you have a noticable difference in framerate between running a game on XP and vista (and not to do with incompatibility), you're probably due a good upgrade.
#33
centaurandrew
Linux for geeks
Macs for [email protected]
Windows for everyone else.

I swear by it


:w00t:

Spot on.
#34
It looks a hot deal, but ebuyers customer service sucks :oops:

Still if you don't get any problems you will be fine, voted hot.
#35
PR1
Presume "modern commercial pc games" translates as "Windows games". I don't think I've used Wine for a couple of years, other than as a curiosity to see how it's getting on (or a beverage).

I'll wait for the flames probably over graphic detail, but this is a great game for example - http://icculus.org/alienarena/rpa/aquire.html. Crank up the settings on first run. Also, nil cost. (legitimately) And open source.


It's hardly Crysis is it?

You can't seriously pretend that Linux has anywhere near the variety and quality of games that Windows does.

jasee
Don't know why everyones talking about windows 7, anyone who's done any gaming know that you need to use XP if you want fast gaming.


You'd have to be mad to put XP on a brand new gaming system now that Vista's been out for almost three years, I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few games won't ship with XP support in another three years.
#36
PR1
Personally, this PC for £400 is a good deal. This PC for £400 plus ~£70-150 for Windows (depending on version), maybe £100 for MS Office and I don't know £20 for AV? (probably per year) - Suddenly this looks a lot closer to £600-700 and you haven't even bought a game yet, which looks less hot.

You've just tagged on a load of needless extras though. Most people will go for Windows as the OS, that's perfectly reasonable to tag that onto the price.

But why Office...and £20 for Antivirus?! Ridiculous. OpenOffice will do fine for 99% of people, and antivirus doesn't need to be paid for, there are free ones which match (and in some cases better) paid for versions. This is a brilliant free antivirus - http://www.free-av.com/
#37
Was £399.97
Save £0.01
Now £399.96inc vat

Wow a 1p saving !
#38
dean_brfc
You've just tagged on a load of needless extras though. Most people will go for Windows as the OS, that's perfectly reasonable to tag that onto the price.

But why Office...and £20 for Antivirus?! Ridiculous. OpenOffice will do fine for 99% of people, and antivirus doesn't need to be paid for, there are free ones which match (and in some cases better) paid for versions. This is a brilliant free antivirus - http://www.free-av.com/


sure, theres a bit of creep there. But it's natural progression, people use MS Office at work/school/whatever then can't cope with the concept of a menu item being in a different place. Arguably you'd use at least home premium with this kit, probably ultimate - so even just OS is 25-35% added to the cost based on retail pricing - and I'm sure you must know people who'd insist on MS office etc etc.

EndlessWaves
It's hardly Crysis is it?

You can't seriously pretend that Linux has anywhere near the variety and quality of games that Windows does.



You'd have to be mad to put XP on a brand new gaming system now that Vista's been out for almost three years, I wouldn't be surprised if quite a few games won't ship with XP support in another three years.


You can't seriously pretend Windows has the variety and quality of games the does? :) it more than satisfies me and my children in both respects, and I know one guy who actually moved to Linux on the basis (and I really do quote) "I like Linux for the games". Not as many sure, but mostly good quality and predominantly free (legitimately).

Agree on the XP comment - if you insist on Windows, at least don't install an 8-9 year old version. I think it'll be less than 3yrs, personally I think MS should have stuck to their guns and dropped support for it when they intended to.
#39
PR1
sure, theres a bit of creep there. But it's natural progression, people use MS Office at work/school/whatever then can't cope with the concept of a menu item being in a different place. Arguably you'd use at least home premium with this kit, probably ultimate - so even just OS is 25-35% added to the cost based on retail pricing - and I'm sure you must know people who'd insist on MS office etc etc.

Agree on the XP comment - if you insist on Windows, at least don't install an 8-9 year old version. I think it'll be less than 3yrs, personally I think MS should have stuck to their guns and dropped support for it when they intended to.


Running a gaming machine (particularly online gaming such as quake) requires a fast machine, and a fast connection of course. There's absolutely no point in having a fast machine if you hamper it with a slow operating system and there's no getting away from it Vista AND Windows 7 are slow operating systems. A lot of time is spend unnecessarily encrypting data. If you've ever dual booted you'll see the difference immediately. It doesn't matter how old an operating system is provided their aren't too many security holes (and Windows 7 has already been patched!). I know gamers who run NT4. The only advantage of Vista and the like is that now even the basic machines are fast if you don't use Vista, so even the basic Vostros become fast if you use XP. The reason M$ didn't drop support was serious business users and institutions hadn't turned to Vista, quite rightly, those that did had to throw out the majority of their machines: no-one expects to pay £££ to have users complain that their machines are slower!
#40
PR1

You can't seriously pretend Windows has the variety and quality of games the does?


You are so, so wrong. Windows has an enormous variety and quality of games that surpasses any console by far. Just go onto any retailer site and compare the top selling PC and console games (http://www.play.com/Games/PC/6-/RegionHome.html). Look through that top 10 list - how many can run on Linux?

If you think that a) Windows games are inferior to console games and b) freeware Linux games are even vaguely on a par with commercial Windows games, then no offense, but you are considerably out of touch with how games are these days.

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