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I've been eyeing this nifty 5-hdd storage unit for a while and just noticed it's been reduced from £185 to £166.47! Some people may enjoy around £20 off with Amazon free delivery so have fun filling up those TBs!!

The DAS501t is a 5-bay storage enclosure for high capacity needs. Hard Drives are installed into easy access hard drive trays for simple insertion and removal. The DAS501t is a compact RAID tower that uses only one cable to access five SATA hard drives utilising the latest SATA II multiplier technology.

* Supplied with 2-port eSATA PCIe card
* Quiet Operation
* RAID levels 0, 1, 5 & 10
* Combine Mode to Maximize Capacity
* Removable Hard Drive Trays

Using the bundled 2-port eSATA PCI express adapter, the user can easily access five hard drives via JBOD mode or RAID 0, 1, 1+0 and 5 with spare.

It basically acts as one large external hard-drive while allowing you to slot in 5 SATA drives and can be recognized as each drive individually or all together as one large drive.

Best deal for a 5-slotter, most 2-4 slot ones are way pricier than this alone! Enjoy!
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#1
Link doesn't work. Does it support RAID 5 and/or 6?
#2
Next best price I can find is Scan online at £160.97 with £6.99 postage = £169 total.

See: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=905175

Edit: Fixed Amazon link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EdgeStore-DAS501T-Bay-eSATA-Enclosure/dp/B001H54JX6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248123953&sr=1-1

Says it supports JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 1+0 and 5.

PDF spec sheet for the techies: http://www.edge10.com/technical_pdfs/Edgestore%20DAS501t%20Spec%20Sheet%20small.pdf
#3
Do you need a special controller for this to work on RAID5 then?
#4
I think it comes bundled with one:-

Using the bundled 2-port eSATA PCI express adapter, the user can easily access five hard drives via JBOD mode or RAID 0, 1, 1+0 and 5 with spare.
[mod]#5
Added delivered price and merchant to the title.
#6
I have their 4-bay case and it is very good. (DAS-401)

I can also recommend thse two from Storage depot. They are really well built.
Non_Raid 4-bay http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc935/p845.aspx
Raid 4-bay http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc935/p890.aspx

One caveat. When I was researching eSata port-multiplier cases, I did come across references to people experiencing problems with the fifth drive in 5-bay units.
#7
a3lawy
Next best price I can find is Scan online at £160.97 with £6.99 postage = £169 total.

See: http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductID=905175

Edit: Fixed Amazon link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EdgeStore-DAS501T-Bay-eSATA-Enclosure/dp/B001H54JX6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1248123953&sr=1-1

Says it supports JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 1+0 and 5.

PDF spec sheet for the techies: http://www.edge10.com/technical_pdfs/Edgestore%20DAS501t%20Spec%20Sheet%20small.pdf


Except if you join AVForums you get free delivery from Scan, which would make it cheaper.

Not voting hot or cold, just posting info.
#8
Could I use this for storing and streaming all my HD Films from my PC to my Popcorn Hour, eSata should provide a quick enough connection to avoid any lag?

Also does your PC see all the drives individually with their own drive mappings (assuming you dont have it setup in RAID)?
#9
mrstarface
Could I use this for storing and streaming all my HD Films from my PC to my Popcorn Hour, eSata should provide a quick enough connection to avoid any lag?

Also does your PC see all the drives individually with their own drive mappings (assuming you dont have it setup in RAID)?


Well I bought 2 of these already this year and all I can say is "awesome" I can copy large files from 1 drive to another at over 80Mbps and stream 1080p files to my ps3 without any problems.

See the drives run at sata 2 so plenty fast enough :) plus you can plug and unplug different drives without turning it off :) hot swap.

And to answer your last questin in Jbod mode the pc will see all 5 drives as standard sata2 hard discs :D
#10
bytemaster
I have their 4-bay case and it is very good. (DAS-401)

I can also recommend thse two from Storage depot. They are really well built.
Non_Raid 4-bay http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc935/p845.aspx
Raid 4-bay http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc935/p890.aspx

One caveat. When I was researching eSata port-multiplier cases, I did come across references to people experiencing problems with the fifth drive in 5-bay units.


I guess they would do the job but hell they are sooooo UGLY LOOKING :roll:
#11
F4RR3LL
I guess they would do the job but hell they are sooooo UGLY LOOKING :roll:


:thumbsup: Well I didn't buy them as decorations, they are out of sight anyway. They really are solidly built though, those cases are something like 5mm solid aluminium. I could stand on them with no flexing. They run 24/7 and stay cool.

I take it that you have not had any 5th drive problems, good to know that.
#12
F4RR3LL
Well I bought 2 of these already this year and all I can say is "awesome" I can copy large files from 1 drive to another at over 80Mbps and stream 1080p files to my ps3 without any problems.

See the drives run at sata 2 so plenty fast enough :) plus you can plug and unplug different drives without turning it off :) hot swap.

And to answer your last questin in Jbod mode the pc will see all 5 drives as standard sata2 hard discs :D


Thats really useful thanks:thumbsup:

I'm nearly sold now but was wondering if I could connect the unit straight to my Popcorn Hour via USB? Guessing not but would avoid having to stream altogether then!
#13
This little USB to Sata dongle works well under Windows XP. It supports port-multiplier. However from memory I had to load the Silicon Image drivers for use with the Raid boxes, even for non-raid use. My non-raid box worked without drivers.

Does the PH support multiple drives connected via a USB Hub? If it does then I suspect that one of these dongles would probably work with a non-raid port-multiplier box, I am less sure about it working with a raid box. I think it might be a suck it and see. If you get one of these boxes in the knowledge that you may have to attach it to the PC, it could be worth another £10 to try a direct connect on the PH.
#14
bytemaster
:thumbsup: Well I didn't buy them as decorations, they are out of sight anyway. They really are solidly built though, those cases are something like 5mm solid aluminium. I could stand on them with no flexing. They run 24/7 and stay cool.

I take it that you have not had any 5th drive problems, good to know that.




Well nearly 7 months use 2 units each with 5 1tb hard drives on 24/7 and both connected to my main pc server.

These are also very very well built could easily stand on them without causing any damage, the hd caddies are also of very good build quality, to be totally honest I simply cannot fault them and will soon be getting my 3rd unit :D
#15
The worsening exchange rate as really hit the price of this DAS501t. Back in January I grabbed one of these for only £151ish delivered.

This is a good deal for the current prices though :thumbsup:
#16
can you expand the raid whilst hot/live?

or do you need to rebuild the array?
#17
These are rubbish - hence the low price.

They use an excruciatingly slow cpu more befitting a 2bay NAS. The effect of this is crappy transfer rates. Crap as in sub double digit speeds.
#18
I use a couple of the 8 bay vers with 8x 1TB drives each, they're decent value for an extra £50 or so. They're a generic re-brand but work well. :)
#19
I have owned the bigger brother to this one for about three months the 801lt. The only issue I have with it is the noise of the fan.
You can get faster transfers than these boxes are capable of but the pci-x cards cost upwards from £160 for the Lindy Cards to the very expensive Areca cards which are considerably more.
#20
mrstarface
Could I use this for storing and streaming all my HD Films from my PC to my Popcorn Hour, eSata should provide a quick enough connection to avoid any lag?


are you joking? eSATA is at least 2.5/3 times faster than usb.. here is an example test speed:

Test 1: Copying a single 5.7GB avi file between the Lacie and my internal Raptor comparing eSATA with USB2 both reading and writing to the Lacie.

eSATA Write 1m 32sec, Read 1m 31sec
USB2 Write 3m 10sec, Read 3m 39sec

Test 2: Copying 811 smaller files in 2 directories, totalling 4.07GB between the Lacie Drive and my internal Raptor comparing eSATA with USB both reading and writing to the Lacie.

eSATA Write 1m 00sec, Read 1m 20sec
USB2 Write 2m 57sec, Read 1m 51sec
#21
ascen
can you expand the raid whilst hot/live?

or do you need to rebuild the array?


It can't do that

It also has a 2TB volume size limit!
#22
You might as well look for a proper NAS when your paying this much...You can pick up a 2nd hand Thecus N5200 for £250 with 5 bays.
#23
robo989
It can't do that

It also has a 2TB volume size limit!


shame, not being able to do a hot/live expansion is a major drawback of any raided nas or enclosure like this.

2TB - isn't that a windows or fs limit? *shrug* im not that familiar with windows so i could be wrong
#24
robo989
You might as well look for a proper NAS when your paying this much...You can pick up a 2nd hand Thecus N5200 for £250 with 5 bays.


the n5200 and above are nice and i would recommend them, lower models from thecus are so terrible.

purely in that thecus have not invested time or effort in to polishing, fixing and optimising their lower spec models.
#25
Tried the EdgeStore DAS501T but wouldn't recognise my 1TB Samsung Spinpoint disks at all
#26
robo989
These are rubbish - hence the low price.

They use an excruciatingly slow cpu more befitting a 2bay NAS. The effect of this is crappy transfer rates. Crap as in sub double digit speeds.


What an amazingly stupid and ill informed comment.

This is a DAS not a NAS. It is an excellent unit.

Please don't troll, you only make a fool of yourself.
#27
was trying to evaluate whether this would be suitable for use with PS3. This article was quite useful http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BRZ/is_3_25/ai_n15622085/
After reading it, I think NAS is probably better suited for my requirement of having remote storage and streaming media through PS3. DAS is best suited for directly hooking up with a PC. Comments?
#28
Hi Guys,

Im a total Newbie and have afew questions (sorry if they are stupid).

1. Does anyone have any links that explain setting up the EdgeStore DAS501T into raid?
2. Whats the best Raid setup to use 0, 1, 5, 10 ???
3. If you fit 5tb drives how much overall storage space do you get?
4. Is there a way this can be linked to a laptop without a eSATA connection?
(would a usb to sata be quick enougth for streaming 1080p content?)

Again sorry if these are stupid questions, ive spent a bit o time on google but not got very far. I really want to ditch using Usb external drives. Thanks, J.
#29
Smartbuyer
was trying to evaluate whether this would be suitable for use with PS3. This article was quite useful http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BRZ/is_3_25/ai_n15622085/
After reading it, I think NAS is probably better suited for my requirement of having remote storage and streaming media through PS3. DAS is best suited for directly hooking up with a PC. Comments?


correct. youve just explained the dictionary definition of the difference between NAS & DAS. yes on ps3 front, you wouldnt want to have pc on everytime you want to acces files on a DAS from ps3.
#30
Sorry if this sounds a daft question..... :thinking:

Do you have to use the supplied card & software to run this unit as a raid unit?

For example I was thinking of using it with my acer revo which has an esata port.
(But clearly no pci slots!)

Would I be able to simply plug this into the revo and after running the configuration software have a external raid box

One more question, after configuration does a driver have to be run on the machine at all times in order to have access to the unit or does it simply appear as one drive to the operating system.

I guess I am trying to understand where the 'brains' lie - in this das box or on the controlling PC.

It reminds me of the old GDI printers vs the 'proper' laser printers. After having purchased a GDI printer a long time ago, I want to make sure I don't fall into the same trap!

Thanks
#31
andrea.barker
Sorry if this sounds a daft question..... :thinking:

Do you have to use the supplied card & software to run this unit as a raid unit?

For example I was thinking of using it with my acer revo which has an esata port.
(But clearly no pci slots!)

Would I be able to simply plug this into the revo and after running the configuration software have a external raid box

One more question, after configuration does a driver have to be run on the machine at all times in order to have access to the unit or does it simply appear as one drive to the operating system.

I guess I am trying to understand where the 'brains' lie - in this das box or on the controlling PC.

It reminds me of the old GDI printers vs the 'proper' laser printers. After having purchased a GDI printer a long time ago, I want to make sure I don't fall into the same trap!

Thanks


It will depend on the chipset in the Revo. If the chipset doen't support port-multiplier the forget about raid, you won't even see 5 drives. Without PM support you will only be able to use one drive.

I too would like to know if the Revo eSata port supports PM. I have done a fair bit f Googling and it is quite hard to determine which Motherboard chipsets actually do support PM. Some Intel do, but I have read tha it was removed from later chipsets!!.
#32
fiatbravodriver
Hi Guys,

Im a total Newbie and have afew questions (sorry if they are stupid).

1. Does anyone have any links that explain setting up the EdgeStore DAS501T into raid?
2. Whats the best Raid setup to use 0, 1, 5, 10 ???
3. If you fit 5tb drives how much overall storage space do you get?
4. Is there a way this can be linked to a laptop without a eSATA connection?
(would a usb to sata be quick enougth for streaming 1080p content?)

Again sorry if these are stupid questions, ive spent a bit o time on google but not got very far. I really want to ditch using Usb external drives. Thanks, J.


1 Google for Edge10. They may have the manual available to download.
2 Depends on the balance of your requirments. Capacity, Speed, Security. A bit of googling will find some site with excellent explanations of the available options. Wikipedia might help.
3 Depends on which type of Raid you set up. Could be between 2TB and 5TB
4 See Post #14 there is a link ther to a USB-eSATA dongle that works. They are very reliable. I have seen many problems with USB connected drives, especially when transferring large amounts of data. However I have had absolutely no problems with these dongles. 100% reliable and faster than any USB enclsure I have ever used.

Not stupid questions at all. You will still be using USB, but I think you will find that it is less hassle than any other USB drive you may have used. HTH
#33
Thanks Bytemaster!
#34
This looks seriously awesome. If it was a nas as well it would be a perfect solution for me....

This is what I am looking for but a nas as well, one of these with 5 1tb drives in it would last me a few years of storage....
#35
I've just collected one of these - it's an excellent bit of kit !

robo989
These are rubbish - hence the low price.
They use an excruciatingly slow cpu more befitting a 2bay NAS. The effect of this is crappy transfer rates. Crap as in sub double digit speeds.

Erm, they don't have a CPU - it's simply a chassis, with a port-multiplier card and a PCI-e SATA card to drive it :?
And "crappy transfer rates" ? It operates as quick as the drives can manage - there's a direct 3Gb/s SATA2 connection to your PC ! It's significantly quicker than any NAS unit (which is limited to 1Gb/s Ethernet speed).
robo989
It also has a 2TB volume size limit!

Erm, it's doesn't have any limits - it's a dumb-box, controlled by your PC. You can quite happily fill it with 5 x 2TB drives.
Any "limits" (like the support of Seagate's new 3TB drives) come in the PCI-e card and the port-multiplier card - but both are easily replaced in the future.
robo989
You might as well look for a proper NAS when your paying this much...You can pick up a 2nd hand Thecus N5200 for £250 with 5 bays.

Erm...
It appears you don't actually know what the EdgeStore is - I suggest you do some research :thumbsup:
#36
andrea.barker
Sorry if this sounds a daft question..... :thinking:

Do you have to use the supplied card & software to run this unit as a raid unit?

No - it's just standard SATA gear.

But if you want to use your own eSATA port, it must support port-multiplier.
andrea.barker
For example I was thinking of using it with my acer revo which has an esata port.
(But clearly no pci slots!)

No port-multiplier on the Acer Revo eSATA according to this post : http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/613479/ebuyer-acer-the-aspirerevo-r3600-wi/showpost.php?p=8084866&postcount=665
andrea.barker
One more question, after configuration does a driver have to be run on the machine at all times in order to have access to the unit or does it simply appear as one drive to the operating system.

Either - you can use the drives individually, or as one big drive, or in a RAID volume.
The only drivers you'll need, are whatever drivers your eSATA port requires :)
andrea.barker
I guess I am trying to understand where the 'brains' lie - in this das box or on the controlling PC.

No brains in the DAS box at all, apart from the port-multiplier card (which simply splits a single eSATA channel into 5) - it's all controlled by the PC it's connected to.
The beauty of this system, is that you can simply upgrade the PC - a few years from now, you could be running 5 x 5TB drives in the EdgeStore. Until the 3Gb/s SATA2 link becomes "old hat", then it won't become outdated.
#37
Nom
I've just collected one of these - it's an excellent bit of kit !


Where did you get it? Is there a better price than Amazon for this?

I have one of the 4-Bay units DAS-401, also an excellent piece of kit !
#38
I bought mine through a work supplier - but it's a bit cheaper than Amazon at http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase27.9&prodID=B150777:)
#39
I already have 2 spare eSATA disks (for backup - I use an USB connector cradle). Will I be able to put these disks into the DAS and run in JBOD mode without having to wipe the disks clean?

Or do you have to create new partitions (therefore wipe the disks)?

Also do you have to install the RAID software drivers to use JBOD mode? I just want a simple expansion box to hold 5 drives with separate drive letters. And I still want the ability to be able to remove a disks from the DAS and use it to connect to another different computer.

Any advice would be gratefully received
#40
samhotuk
I already have 2 spare eSATA disks (for backup - I use an USB connector cradle). Will I be able to put these disks into the DAS and run in JBOD mode without having to wipe the disks clean?

Or do you have to create new partitions (therefore wipe the disks)?

Also do you have to install the RAID software drivers to use JBOD mode? I just want a simple expansion box to hold 5 drives with separate drive letters. And I still want the ability to be able to remove a disks from the DAS and use it to connect to another different computer.

Any advice would be gratefully received

Yes - I don't see any problems with that. You'll probably want to contact Edgestore directly and confirm with them before you splash the cash though !

The Edgestore doesn't have any "intelligence" - it's simply a 1 to 5 SATA Port Multiplier in a chassis, and a PCI-e card with an eSATA port to connect it to, so you can use it however you wish.

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