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Elecom FLAT CAT6 gigabit ethernet cable, 3m for 99p plus P+P @ Partmaster (also 10% off voucher code)

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5m sold out, 3m still available Found this in preparation to update my network to a gigabit LAN as my network cables are either equipment pack-ins or refugees from the computer bin o' bits. What…
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8y, 1m agoFound 8 years, 1 month ago
5m sold out, 3m still available

Found this in preparation to update my network to a gigabit LAN as my network cables are either equipment pack-ins or refugees from the computer bin o' bits.

What's it for?
Wiring a gigabit LAN

Wait what?
A gigabit Local Area Network allows faster data transfer on the network than a standard LAN, eg to copy or stream files from one computer to another.

Why cat6?
Although cat5 will work on a gigabit LAN upgrading to cable rated at cat6 will help ensure your gigabit LAN connects at its highest rates. Old & damaged cat5 can connect at slower rates, reducing throughput. Besides, at this price, why not? It's cheaper than cat5.

Will this make my (standard) cat5 LAN run faster?
No but it will work as usual as cat6 is backwards compatible to cat5 LANs. Plus your cables will be black, everything looks better in black.

Do I need a crossover cable? Probably not, all gigabit ethernet kit is auto-sensing, and most standard LAN since approx '04 is too). All you need are 'straight' ethernet cables, like these.

However if you use a cat5 crossover, PC to non-autosensing PC connection (most PCs since 04 are autosensing) this cable will not work. (chances are if you have this sort of configuration you already know this.

This is the more expensive flat cabling that can hide under carpets or behind false skirtings. Even if its out in the open it 'handles' better than cat5, I swear getting a cat in a bath is easier than getting cat5 to lie flush...Black too, slightly less offensive & unobtrusive than beige or grey.

0.99p for 3m of flat cat6 doesn't seem bad, it was £2.49 rrp. Last I checked 3m of lower speed standard 'chunky' cat5 was more than that.

Delivery is on a sliding scale:
£2.98 for 1 -5 items
£3.98 for 6 or 7
£4.98 for 8 or more (I got 11 items for £4.98)

Use (old but still working) voucher code rcm2 for 10% off at checkout also. (In case your voucher doesn't work: make sure the site has the 'currys partmaster' logo at the top left. I started on a generic blue logo'd partmaster page but it changed at some point through after hunting for codes, it should work regardless, but just so you know.

The site does warn of limited stocks, obviously a clearout, so be quick...
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#1
I thought Cat6 was the standard for 10 gigabit Lans and Cat5e was cool for gigabit?
#2
a7awo
I thought Cat6 was the standard for 10 gigabit Lans and Cat5e was cool for gigabit?


From Wikipedia:

The cable standard ... is suitable for 10BASE-T / 100BASE-TX and 1000BASE-T (Gigabit Ethernet). It is expected to suit the 10GBASE-T (10Gigabit Ethernet) standard
#3
my bad, any mentions of cat5 I make; I mean cat5e. Apparently cat5 went outta style in 2001...
#4
nice find , brilliant price!
#5
Thanks, ordered some of each.
#6
good deal. Surprising also. Currys used to sell USB cables for a ball crushing £14 when ebuyer were selling them at £1.
#7
Nice one.

Half a dozen of those ordered
#8
Amazing price for Currys!!

Saw a bargain Belkin 3m HDMI cable in-store the other day....only £84!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#9
withabix
Amazing price for Currys!!

Saw a bargain Belkin 3m HDMI cable in-store the other day....only £84!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i saw a 4gb sdhc card for £39 lol :w00t:
#10
cat5 makes for great speaker cable so i would think this would be pretty good too.
#11
Ive seen 200 quid hdmi cables in comet . ;-)
#12
calathea;4354929
cat5 makes for great speaker cable
I don't know why - all you need for speaker cable is low resistance - a large cross-sectional area - and this cable isn't anything special in that respect.
1 Like #13
Kamizuri
good price, but why the hard sell?


*ahem* s'myfault...spotted deal when I went into work, near finished it then I started pre-empting questions so there wouldn't be any follow-up questions, what is this etc, left it, worked for a bit, wrote some more...it kinda grew *shrug* :oops:
#14
pibpob
I don't know why - all you need for speaker cable is low resistance - a large cross-sectional area - and this cable isn't anything special in that respect.


Actually you don't need a large cross sectional area at all. The resistivity of copper and other materials used for speaker cable combined with the (relatively) low voltages is such that after you get past a certain small diameter, it makes no difference to the resistance. I have some Merlin cable at 0.5mm diameter and it's far better than a lot of stuff with a large cross section.

Anyway, that's a little off track and pretty much useless information. Personally I'd buy proper speaker cable that's designed with sonic qualities in mind.

Good post by the way, I'm buying a cable now. Cheers.
#15
a7awo
I thought Cat6 was the standard for 10 gigabit Lans and Cat5e was cool for gigabit?


I believe that is cat6a. (Augumented) You wouldnt hide that under your carpet, its huge
#16
calathea
cat5 makes for great speaker cable so i would think this would be pretty good too.


You just take the ends off?
#17
northernlights
*ahem* s'myfault...spotted deal when I went into work, near finished it then I started pre-empting questions so there wouldn't be any follow-up questions, what is this etc, left it, worked for a bit, wrote some more...it kinda grew *shrug* :oops:


I'd imagine that there's a few Bods that don't know their networking get on this site..

Never hurts to spread the knowledge... Folk might learn sumthin :thumbsup:
#18
Seems good - I have just laid cat 5e behind my newly plastered walls and under my floor boards so aint going to be worrying about 10G speeds just yet but hot deal!

Anyone have any ideas on real world difference in transfer speeds between cat 5e and cat 6?

My home giga network with cat 5e gives me about 20MBsecond actual data transfer rate compared to 4MBs on my old 100 mbs network using cat 5 if anyone want to know before they think they might actually get over 100MBs :)
#19
mission701;4355754
Actually you don't need a large cross sectional area at all. The resistivity of copper and other materials used for speaker cable combined with the (relatively) low voltages is such that after you get past a certain small diameter, it makes no difference to the resistance.
What? :? Someone's been feeding you porkies. I don't know where you get your theory from but it's nothing that any electrical engineer would recognise! The resistivity of metals is within reason constant - it makes no difference what "voltage" is applied or what their cross-sectional area is!
Personally I'd buy proper speaker cable that's designed with sonic qualities in mind.
And what might that be? Multi-stranded because someone has decided to go on about the "skin effect", when all those strands touch each other so behave like a single core anyway?
#20
andy_sym;4357170
Anyone have any ideas on real world difference in transfer speeds between cat 5e and cat 6?
No-one can tell you that - it's entirely down to the actual installation: length of cables, number of connectors, quality of interfaces, etc.
#21
pibpob
No-one can tell you that - it's entirely down to the actual installation: length of cables, number of connectors, quality of interfaces, etc.


Yep, there's a few other factors too. Here's one (unlikely) example...

2 PCs connected via gigabit switch (or even directly to each other) and you're transfering the contents of a USB flash key on PC1 to another USB flash key on PC2. You'll be lucky to break the speeds of 100base networking let alone 1000base since the bottleneck here is the read/write speeds of both flash drives.

The point is, if not already obvious, is that the capabilities of the media being read from and written too plays a much larger role in how fast things get transferred than the transfer medium itself :)
#22
Good point - I was thinking of the work we've been doing with gigabit ethernet where the servers are able to saturate the network; in most domestic situations this is unlikely.
#23
I have got a gigabit router and cat5e from the garage to the living room, the length is about 12 meters but when I try to connect my pc (with a gigabit nic) to the port it state 'cable unplugged', but if i amend the settings on my nic to use 100m then it connects :-( ... why is this? I wonder if the length is too long and I may need a powered switch in between ...
banned#24
i think ill come back to this thread to read all this
#25
a7awo
I thought Cat6 was the standard for 10 gigabit Lans and Cat5e was cool for gigabit?
Cat 5e is fine for Gigabit, that's what we used for rewiring at my old work (and is generally cheaper than cat6). Over gigabit or for longer length or switch to switch connections and you want fibre optic connections.

a7awo
I have got a gigabit router and cat5e from the garage to the living room, the length is about 12 meters but when I try to connect my pc (with a gigabit nic) to the port it state 'cable unplugged', but if i amend the settings on my nic to use 100m then it connects :-( ... why is this? I wonder if the length is too long and I may need a powered switch in between ...
It's not ideal but should work, are you sure it's not just the cable?, might be worth re-crimping the connecters if you have the tools. Try the same sockets with another cable too.
#26
cat5e is fine IF you are sourcing new cables/plugs.

This is cheaper than cat5e (retail, obv. not home made or bespoke), it's flat, black & if like me your network wiring is all pack-ins & waifs and strays from work etc, then this makes sense.

Also if you are using cat5 (not cat5e, not all cables have print on them), gigabit will fail.

If you have old/damaged cat5e, it also can connect at lower speeds to the gigabit LAN. It's also more susceptible to interference.

Now to find a good gigabit switch! Any suggestions? Needs to be non-blocking & at least 20Gbps backplane???
#27
D'oh, double post
#28
no longer taking orders.
#29
I understand the speed factors of trying to copy from 1 usb drive directly to another usb on another computer that are both connected via a gigabit network (why would you do this?) but I was simply asking was what actual, real world usage speeds people get when copying say a 1gb file stored locally to another computer on their gigabit network?

I have not messed around with jumbo frames settings etc on each computer which might improve my 20mb s data transfer rate yet but both computer's have fast hard disk R / W speeds although one is Vista so that might be my bottleneck!
#30
3m still in stock, post amended...

andy, I find vista (x64 ultimate here) general file transfer speeds tragic. I can never get more than 7Mb/s through my pendrive though it's rated 12Mb/s. I've connected my NAS directly, gig port, jumbo frames etc...14Mb/s *facepalm* my NAS isn't too fast but still should be quicker I thought.

One thing I found was use teracopy for file transfers, (I installed the shell integration, it replaces the vista built-in copy engine with its faster (and more robust) version, or you can install it as a standalone program instead). It boosted my NAS to PC transfer rate to 20Mb/s sustained!

It's quite easy to use & free, but obviously play about a little, copy, overwrite, delete etc before making any critical transfers. Not my fault if it kills your cat, eats your dinner etc

Otherwise, try & initiate all copy requests from the XP machine, might make a difference, oh & also, my last Gb ethernet adapter was an onboard nforce based chipset, and in addition to jumbo frames in properties (via device manager, network adapters,
#31
andy_sym
I understand the speed factors of trying to copy from 1 usb drive directly to another usb on another computer that are both connected via a gigabit network (why would you do this?)


That's why in my original post I said...

Cuddy
(unlikely) example...


It was simply an example to illustrate the point that the capabilites of media on each end of the network affect the transfer rate too. I wasn't saying that you, or myself, are doing this or indeed anyone should want to, it was just an example to demonstrate the point above :thumbsup:

As for personal experience of 1000base network transfer speed, I'll let you know when my cables arrive :)
#32
Cuddy
...blah...

I didn't fully read your orignal post then and certainly didn't mean to come across grumpy :p

I think it is important to explain what people can actually expect to get transfer speeds wise before spending lots of money upgrading 100 networks etc - will reply to other posts in am zzz
banned#33
northernlights;4360650
3m still in stock, post amended...

andy, I find vista (x64 ultimate here) general file transfer speeds tragic. I can never get more than 7Mb/s through my pendrive though it's rated 12Mb/s. I've connected my NAS directly, gig port, jumbo frames etc...14Mb/s *facepalm* my NAS isn't too fast but still should be quicker I thought.

One thing I found was use teracopy for file transfers, (I installed the shell integration, it replaces the vista built-in copy engine with its faster (and more robust) version, or you can install it as a standalone program instead). It boosted my NAS to PC transfer rate to 20Mb/s sustained!

It's quite easy to use & free, but obviously play about a little, copy, overwrite, delete etc before making any critical transfers. Not my fault if it kills your cat, eats your dinner etc

Otherwise, try & initiate all copy requests from the XP machine, might make a difference, oh & also, my last Gb ethernet adapter was an onboard nforce based chipset, and in addition to jumbo frames in properties (via device manager, network adapters,

Just gave teracopy a go on my Vista 32 system

transferred a DVD folder (4.3GB) from 1 HDD to another - Vista standard copy took 2 minutes 4 seconds

transferred the same DVD folder (4.3GB) from 1 HDD to another - teracopy took 2 minutes 41 seconds

not too impressed so uninstalled it.
#34
Yeah I have to admit that Teracopy never really did much for me either last time I tested it.

What did make a difference on XP (not Vsta compatible!) for me was using TCP Optimizer from here in the past.

However now I am stuck at about 20MB sustained. My set up:
One machine in my case is Windows Home Server and the other Vista Premium 32. The Vista PC is using an on board Nforce (5 i think) based giga port and the server a PCI giga card but I think messing around with jumbo packets etc might improve things but haen't had time to do this yet.
#35
sorry to hear that csiman, was that through the network? The speed bumps I'm talking of only affected LAN (nas) & USB file transfers. Normal copy operations were business as usual...minus the occasional copying hang I used to get with vista.

If it was disk to disk, seems a bit slow, I managed that filesize in 50 seconds with & without teracopy. I have a fast sata 2 primary drive admittedly, but it should be restrained by the other disks read speed, it's a plain average 7200rpm sata...no raid or anything setup, are they ATA drives?
#36
Received an email earlier today saying my bunch of cables have been dispatched :thumbsup:
#37
Nice one, mine arrived Saturday, good luck getting them out the box! Packaging nightmare! I settled on taking a knife right round the edges on the reverse.

Still though, I'm happy enough, certainly helped tame the spaghetti at the back of my router & tv unit. Need some labels now everything's black though, didn't think of that :)
banned#38
It looks like they are having a massive clear out on all Elecom cables!! Everything is 99p, includng USB printer cables, firewire, CAT5 & 6 and normal USB cables.

http://www.partmaster.co.uk/cgi-bin/search.pl?query=elecom+cable&frmSFinder_headerSubmit=Search

I just ordered a load of USB printer cables, never have too many of them :-D

What is the quality like from anyone who has received theres?
#39
would this help make my xbox connection less laggy?
#40
No. It wouldn't make any difference at all.

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