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ElectriQ 28" EIQ-284KMB 4K Ultra HD 1ms Freesync Monitor £199.97 - Laptops Direct

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4k 28" freesync monitor £199! Says HDMI 2.0 4k at 60hz but is a TN panel from unknown brand. Previous reviews when 249 seem to say only did 4k at 30fps but this advert says otherwise. Maybe upgraded … Read More
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4k 28" freesync monitor £199! Says HDMI 2.0 4k at 60hz but is a TN panel from unknown brand.

Previous reviews when 249 seem to say only did 4k at 30fps but this advert says otherwise. Maybe upgraded design? The company seems British importer but no idea what underlying panel is. Found it when googling for a qnix on ebay based in UK. Anyone got any experience of this monitor? I have a 46" 1080p Samsung tv but prefer my 23" AOC IPS monitor for gaming strategy games where you need to read text. So looking for a bigger screen and 4k and freesync makes this interesting!
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2 Likes #1
The JAPANNEXT JN-T2820UHD looks the same.
Only available in Japan and has more reviews (all in Japanese).
http://degitekunote.com/blog/2016/05/29/jn-t2820uhd/
Here are the specs
http://japannext.net/?page_id=3765

Not sure if that is an actual brand or just own label stuff like ElectriQ.
Google Translate to your rescue ;-)
1 Like #2
hey thanks for that! it is much better marketed on japanese website! however no mention of freesync on japanese specs page (didn't read review yet as on phpne and hard to read) and tech sheet saud 2x4w speakers but this says none? so might be similar and same panel or might not be? worth investigating though! has anyone got a 28" 4k with tn panel? there was an lg ips 27" for around 280 recently.
1 Like #3
mine arrived today but haven't had a chance to plug in yet I'm waiting for a computer case to build pc that it's being plugged into from what I can see this monitor has LG panel
2 Likes #4
jameshothothot
has anyone got a 28" 4k with tn panel? there was an lg ips 27" for around 280 recently.

I don't have a 28" 4k but do know any & all 28" TN 4k monitors are using the same panel - see the 28 - 31.5 tab here - http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/monitor_panel_parts.htm just 2 parts from Innolux exist. So the Acer RT280K that's done the rounds on here a few times now (here which BTW is back in stock at Ebuyer), this one you have found + all others apparently use the same panel, it's just then the extras each manufacturer may do with that panel. I'd probably go with the Acer over this one you've found as a more reputable brand name & only £25 more.

I did buy the 27" LG IPS, set it up yesterday and very happy with it, although to be honest the fact it needs scaling for the desktop not to be so small I still think 1440p is the sweet spot resolution at this size.


Edited By: nellybauer on May 19, 2017 15:15
#5
Heat.
#6
Is there is reason why;

- There is barely any 32" 4k TV's?
- That the 4k TV's are pretty cheap but monitors are crazy
1 Like #7
Will 4k monitor run 1080p res at 120hz or is that rarely the case
#8
mokk69thisgish
Will 4k monitor run 1080p res at 120hz or is that rarely the case

The refresh rate listed is a physical property if the display, this monitor will top out at 60Hz regardless of the resolution you're playing.
1 Like #9
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
2 Likes #10
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
1440.
1 Like #11
mamboboy
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
1440.
thank you for the reply :)
1 Like #12
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??

Depends on what you want to do on the display. Productivity, hell yes. Gaming? It's a pity you don't have an AMD card for the FreeSync. Ultimately depends on what kind of games you're into/play most. You might struggle to 'max out' the most recent AAA titles for sure. I've got an i5 CPU and a 1070 GPU with my 4K display, but I'm a relatively patient gamer who waits for games to be on sale and their performance patches complete. I'll also choose custom medium-high settings on intensive games to avoid any frame drops, for instance in Witcher 3/Mass Effect Andromeda I play mostly on medium (ultra textures) with SweetFX filters applied. Most of the games I sink huge amounts of time into though are maxed out e.g. Rocket League.
#13
I believe the company is Korean, when I was checking them out before Christmas, they didnt have a very good rep - lots of unreliable screens being returned by US customers.

Some screens can run lower resolutions at higher refresh rates; there are a few no name 50" 4K screens touted as running 1080 at 120fps.

Most newer 4K PC screens can run 60fps with the right cables and equipment, but you need a VERY hefty graphics card to run a 4K gaming screen, which is why most non-millionaire gamers still use 1080p.

I would rather play games at 1080 with 120fps, than 4K at 60fps.

Also, at 28", text is so small, you need either the eyes of a young hawk, or sit 2 inches (5.08cm), away from the screen to read it.

Edited By: Gentle_Giant on May 19, 2017 19:10
#14
This and ps4 pro?
#15
SaxonStar
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
Depends on what you want to do on the display. Productivity, hell yes. Gaming? It's a pity you don't have an AMD card for the FreeSync. Ultimately depends on what kind of games you're into/play most. You might struggle to 'max out' the most recent AAA titles for sure. I've got an i5 CPU and a 1070 GPU with my 4K display, but I'm a relatively patient gamer who waits for games to be on sale and their performance patches complete. I'll also choose custom medium-high settings on intensive games to avoid any frame drops, for instance in Witcher 3/Mass Effect Andromeda I play mostly on medium (ultra textures) with SweetFX filters applied. Most of the games I sink huge amounts of time into though are maxed out e.g. Rocket League.

same here I5 1070 and wait for games to be on sale and for the bugs to go away well as much as they can fix

what monitor have you got if you don`t mind me asking

and thank you for the info :)
#16
5reds
This and ps4 pro?
I'd check and see if this monitor requires displayport because as far as I know the Ps4 pro doesn't have displayport?
2 Likes #17
iAmLegendFam
Is there is reason why;
- There is barely any 32" 4k TV's?
- That the 4k TV's are pretty cheap but monitors are crazy
The lack of 4K 32" TVs is either there being no market to justify making them, or that they're too expensive to manufacture?
As for monitors being dearer, it's down to the processor inside the monitor. Professional gamers, and those who identify as such want nothing to impact their performance and want to always be at their peak, so they buy monitors with the quickest refresh rates, smallest input lag and lowest grey to grey response times as possible, so what they see on the screen is as near to instantaneous as possible. They also don't want any ghosting, tearing, backlight bleed, IPS glow, and clouding or any other defects that can impact their visuals. This is also true for the professional market, their monitors cost so much because they want as near to 100% colour representation as possible from their monitor, in order to accurately edit and product media. Technologies such as FreeSync and G-Sync costs extra, too.

If all that was too much to read, maybe check out this "as fast as possible" video on YouTube that explains gaming monitors. They do a few monitor videos you may be interested in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC-KHOKM7ck

Edited By: radiocaf on May 19, 2017 20:28
1 Like #18
scooter
SaxonStar
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
Depends on what you want to do on the display. Productivity, hell yes. Gaming? It's a pity you don't have an AMD card for the FreeSync. Ultimately depends on what kind of games you're into/play most. You might struggle to 'max out' the most recent AAA titles for sure. I've got an i5 CPU and a 1070 GPU with my 4K display, but I'm a relatively patient gamer who waits for games to be on sale and their performance patches complete. I'll also choose custom medium-high settings on intensive games to avoid any frame drops, for instance in Witcher 3/Mass Effect Andromeda I play mostly on medium (ultra textures) with SweetFX filters applied. Most of the games I sink huge amounts of time into though are maxed out e.g. Rocket League.
same here I5 1070 and wait for games to be on sale and for the bugs to go away well as much as they can fix
what monitor have you got if you don`t mind me asking
and thank you for the info :)

I've got an Acer CB240HYK 24" screen (been posted here before - including once by me :3 ). I do love it, but wish it was slightly larger I'll be honest. I honestly don't seem to have as many scaling issues as other people, the godly pixels per inch eases my eye strain maybe. Mine has the benefits of IPS so slightly nicer colours than a TN panel. I suppose the upside of this display would be the crazy-fast response time and FreeSync ensuring a clear upgrade path for GPU upgrades.
#19
i am looking at getting a AOC 32 inch QHD 2560 x 1440 AMVA Q3277PQU its about £384 ish just waiting for it to go down a bit hmm i would like a 42 inch 2560 x 1440 ips lol :)

Thank you for the reply as ever scoot :)


SaxonStar
scooter
SaxonStar
scooter
will a GTX 1070 strix be ok with this or should i just go for a 1440p monitor ??
Depends on what you want to do on the display. Productivity, hell yes. Gaming? It's a pity you don't have an AMD card for the FreeSync. Ultimately depends on what kind of games you're into/play most. You might struggle to 'max out' the most recent AAA titles for sure. I've got an i5 CPU and a 1070 GPU with my 4K display, but I'm a relatively patient gamer who waits for games to be on sale and their performance patches complete. I'll also choose custom medium-high settings on intensive games to avoid any frame drops, for instance in Witcher 3/Mass Effect Andromeda I play mostly on medium (ultra textures) with SweetFX filters applied. Most of the games I sink huge amounts of time into though are maxed out e.g. Rocket League.
same here I5 1070 and wait for games to be on sale and for the bugs to go away well as much as they can fix
what monitor have you got if you don`t mind me asking
and thank you for the info :)
I've got an Acer CB240HYK 24" screen (been posted here before - including once by me :3 ). I do love it, but wish it was slightly larger I'll be honest. I honestly don't seem to have as many scaling issues as other people, the godly pixels per inch eases my eye strain maybe. Mine has the benefits of IPS so slightly nicer colours than a TN panel. I suppose the upside of this display would be the crazy-fast response time and FreeSync ensuring a clear upgrade path for GPU upgrades.


Edited By: scooter on May 19, 2017 22:34
1 Like #20
iAmLegendFam
Is there is reason why;
- There is barely any 32" 4k TV's?
- That the 4k TV's are pretty cheap but monitors are crazy

You sit 30-50cm from a monitor,

You sit 2-4m from a tv.

Closer you are the more you notice increased pixel density.
#21
ok going to read those panel reviews now.

just to be clear... ha no pun intended. monitors ars more expensive than 4k tvs as better quality. will this do 4:4:4 for clear fonts? do we know thw freesync range? and it can game at 4k 60hz via hdmi as well as display port? thanks for great comments!!
#22
these are the panels mentioned

Innolux TN Film M280DGJ-L30 3840x2160 5ms 1000:1 300 170/160 1.07b sRGB W-LED 2013
Innolux TN Film M280DGJ-Q02 3840x2160 5ms 1000:1 170/160 1.07b 2014
#23
a review of one of the panels

says it is good. annoying.. as might have to buy! was going to wait for ips to come down in price as my current 23" aoc is 1080p ips and really readable........

https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5779/5/eight-ultra-hd-4k-monitors-review-cmo-m280dgj-l30
#24
nellybauer
I did buy the 27" LG IPS, set it up yesterday and very happy with it, although to be honest the fact it needs scaling for the desktop not to be so small I still think 1440p is the sweet spot resolution at this size.
I find 1440p without scaling quite hard on the eyes. Yes, it is possible, but not great on the whole. Scaling by 125% is better, but then you nearly lose the advantage of more screen space.

On 4K, I use 175% scaling, and that seems perfect to me. I guess 150% and 200% would also be reasonably, if you like it a bit finer or a bit larger.
#25
I accidentally voted cold oO
#26
here are some reviews of the acer which we think uses the same panel

http://www.ebuyer.com/756117-acer-rt280k-28-4k-ultra-hd-led-monitor-um-pr0ee-001?mkwid=sWA3N2WiH_dm&pcrid=51630194939&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=CjwKEAjwr_rIBRDJzq-Z-LC_2HgSJADoL57HeyGuWYyOJrYlNcRmm4CNvISnEiMrGe9T1lclM0KLsxoC1qjw_wcB&reevoo_page=1#reevoo_embedded_reviews

comments generally positive. some say need direct port for 4k at 1080p. general comments on ips vs tn as you expect. for the price seems to be a bargain according to reviews

225 for acer by the way
#27
I'd be worried about the durability of this panel!.. I've had several panels from cheap monitors made by unknown/small brands just completely die and plus with no way of getting a warranty on them seeing as they only had 12 months warranty as well of which I was out of when these monitors died on me!..

BUT, for £200, could be a good punt if you aren't worried about the above!..

Edited By: trueno2k on May 20, 2017 11:28
1 Like #28
MrPuddington
nellybauer
I did buy the 27" LG IPS, set it up yesterday and very happy with it, although to be honest the fact it needs scaling for the desktop not to be so small I still think 1440p is the sweet spot resolution at this size.
I find 1440p without scaling quite hard on the eyes. Yes, it is possible, but not great on the whole. Scaling by 125% is better, but then you nearly lose the advantage of more screen space.

On 4K, I use 175% scaling, and that seems perfect to me. I guess 150% and 200% would also be reasonably, if you like it a bit finer or a bit larger.


windows 10 recommends 150% on 4k 27", I am sticking with that, tried 125% but too small. my work laptop can only output 4k at 30hz so I've set it to 1440p on the 4k screen, looks pretty good to be honest without scaling
#29
@scooter
You'll be fine for older games like WOW or Diablo 3. Newer stuff at Ultra settings might be a problem but you can always run them at a lower rez.

Edited By: mrpipster on May 20, 2017 14:12
#30
garrafk
mine arrived today but haven't had a chance to plug in yet I'm waiting for a computer case to build pc that it's being plugged into from what I can see this monitor has LG panel
What can you see that makes you think it's an LG panel?
1 Like #31
Anyone know if this should deal with 4K on a ps4 Pro ok? From what I've read HDMI 2.0 is the requirement for it to be seamless, so should be alright?

Edited By: Danzelp on May 20, 2017 20:45
#32
garrafk
mine arrived today but haven't had a chance to plug in yet I'm waiting for a computer case to build pc that it's being plugged into from what I can see this monitor has LG panel
Does anyone know if this has an audio out 3.5mm? Doesn't say it does on specs....
1 Like #33
did anyone ever find out if it does do 4k 60
#34
I have a question, would this be worth a purchase for my PC with i5 cpu and GTX 970 strix? I am in need of a new monitor and was thinking of a 24inch+ 1440p to upgrade my 21inch 1080p one, but thought this may be better for future proofing and will run nicely at 1440p anyway? or can anyone recommend a decent 1440p gaming monitor that is this price or less? Thanks

Edit - Oh and I may hook up my Xbox One S to it as well as Sky Q silver box for UHD programs!

Edited By: musefan2001 on May 24, 2017 13:54
#35
Danzelp
Anyone know if this should deal with 4K on a ps4 Pro ok? From what I've read HDMI 2.0 is the requirement for it to be seamless, so should be alright?

Should be fine - you need HDMI 2.0 in order to be able to do 4k at 60hz, so yes all good with this monitor
2 Likes #36
musefan2001
may be better for future proofing and will run nicely at 1440p anyway? or can anyone recommend a decent 1440p gaming monitor that is this price or less? Thanks

Edit - Oh and I may hook up my Xbox One S to it as well as Sky Q silver box for UHD programs!
I thought much the same about future proofing (I bought an alternative 27" LG IPS 4k screen). I'm still running an old I5 2500K @ 4ghz + RX 470 4GB. It can run games at 4k medium settings reasonably well but also is fine with running games at 1440p with higher settings.

For Sky - be aware this particular monitor here is a TN panel - you need to be looking at completely straight on for colours to be reasonable, thats usually fine when using it for general PC duties but for TV viewing, if you will be viewing from an angle at all you would be better off with an IPS or VA panel.
#37
nellybauer
musefan2001
may be better for future proofing and will run nicely at 1440p anyway? or can anyone recommend a decent 1440p gaming monitor that is this price or less? Thanks
Edit - Oh and I may hook up my Xbox One S to it as well as Sky Q silver box for UHD programs!
I thought much the same about future proofing (I bought an alternative 27" LG IPS 4k screen). I'm still running an old I5 2500K @ 4ghz + RX 470 4GB. It can run games at 4k medium settings reasonably well but also is fine with running games at 1440p with higher settings.
For Sky - be aware this particular monitor here is a TN panel - you need to be looking at completely straight on for colours to be reasonable, thats usually fine when using it for general PC duties but for TV viewing, if you will be viewing from an angle at all you would be better off with an IPS or VA panel.

Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! As its only for my office, direct viewing angles won't be an issue! My concern is using a 4k monitor on 1440p and 1080p, does it have a detrimental effect on the graphics? I read this can cause a more blurry picture etc? what has your experience been? Were you using a 1080p monitor before and would recommend the jump? Thanks again :D
1 Like #38
musefan2001
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! As its only for my office, direct viewing angles won't be an issue! My concern is using a 4k monitor on 1440p and 1080p, does it have a detrimental effect on the graphics? I read this can cause a more blurry picture etc? what has your experience been?
My work laptop will for not output 4k so I've been running it at 1440p, it is ever so slightly blurry on the Windows desktop but I find it perfectly usable. 1080p on the windows desktop is just far too large for this screen size, very happy i didn't go for 1 of the cheaper 27" 1080p screens. I assume though you mean only really running at lower res for games & using 4k on the windows desktop? My experience has been good with gaming at 1440p & even 1080p looks good in my testing. 1080p should scale more easily to be honest - it's a direct half of the size in each direction so can the display can directly use 2to1 ratio for the pixels (i.e. 3840/1920 = 2 & 2560/1080 = 2), whereas 1440p, is 1.5to1 (i.e. 3840/2560=1.5). I don't know how the display deals with the fact it has to use 1.5 pixels for each pixel of resolution but it looks alright to me. Obviously full 4k is the clearest picture but you have to sacrifice settings unless you are running a GTX 1080 or above anyway.
musefan2001
Were you using a 1080p monitor before and would recommend the jump? Thanks again :D
Yes I was using a 24" 1080p screen before, it was a VA panel, that's why I wanted to stick with IPS or VA for the new screen as I thought I'd notice the difference if I were to drop down to a TN screen like the one in this deal. Would definitely recommend it, even if just for the extra screen real estate for work, browsing etc. To be honest though I think 1440p is the right res for 27/28" screens - on my work laptop I run 1440p with no Windows scaling needed & everything is a nice size, with 4k on my desktop you need to run Windows at 125% scaling at least, I'm using 150% so whilst you do get the extra pixel clarity, for actual real estate there's not a massive difference from 1440p. That said I couldn't find a 1440p freesync IPS/VA panel in the same price as the 4k one was.
#39
nellybauer
musefan2001
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated! As its only for my office, direct viewing angles won't be an issue! My concern is using a 4k monitor on 1440p and 1080p, does it have a detrimental effect on the graphics? I read this can cause a more blurry picture etc? what has your experience been?
My work laptop will for not output 4k so I've been running it at 1440p, it is ever so slightly blurry on the Windows desktop but I find it perfectly usable. 1080p on the windows desktop is just far too large for this screen size, very happy i didn't go for 1 of the cheaper 27" 1080p screens. I assume though you mean only really running at lower res for games & using 4k on the windows desktop? My experience has been good with gaming at 1440p & even 1080p looks good in my testing. 1080p should scale more easily to be honest - it's a direct half of the size in each direction so can the display can directly use 2to1 ratio for the pixels (i.e. 3840/1920 = 2 & 2560/1080 = 2), whereas 1440p, is 1.5to1 (i.e. 3840/2560=1.5). I don't know how the display deals with the fact it has to use 1.5 pixels for each pixel of resolution but it looks alright to me. Obviously full 4k is the clearest picture but you have to sacrifice settings unless you are running a GTX 1080 or above anyway.
musefan2001
Were you using a 1080p monitor before and would recommend the jump? Thanks again :D
Yes I was using a 24" 1080p screen before, it was a VA panel, that's why I wanted to stick with IPS or VA for the new screen as I thought I'd notice the difference if I were to drop down to a TN screen like the one in this deal. Would definitely recommend it, even if just for the extra screen real estate for work, browsing etc. To be honest though I think 1440p is the right res for 27/28" screens - on my work laptop I run 1440p with no Windows scaling needed & everything is a nice size, with 4k on my desktop you need to run Windows at 125% scaling at least, I'm using 150% so whilst you do get the extra pixel clarity, for actual real estate there's not a massive difference from 1440p. That said I couldn't find a 1440p freesync IPS/VA panel in the same price as the 4k one was.


thanks for the update appreciate the advice. decided to leave a 4k monitor for now and go with a decent 1080p one as I'm happy enough at that Res and gonna get a4k telly instead as it'd get more use!
1 Like #40
Anyone who purchased this can give me their thoughts?

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