ELEVATION FULL SIZE ELECTRIC GUITAR OUTFIT (Guitar, Amp, Carry Bag, Strap, Pitch Pipe, Spare Strings, Ins Manual & 3 Plecs) - RED - £43.98 Delivered @ Argos Ebay Outlet - HotUKDeals
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Maple neck and rosewood fretboard.
Solid body.
3 single coil pick-ups.
Tone control.
Volume control.
5 way selector switch and tremolo system.
Steel strings.
Includes spare set of strings, 6 note pitch pipe, strap, 3 plectrums, instruction manual, lead, nylon carry bag and 10watt RMS amp.
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#1
http://images.argosclearance.co.uk/5/540/5400784/5400784.jpg
#2
Good deal
#3
My sister would like this for christmas...

good price.
#4
farfromout
My sister would like this for christmas...good price.

Ditto. Amazing price. Hmmm...
#5
No mention of shoulder strap?

My mistake, its says strap.

Edited By: Dantooine on Nov 30, 2010 15:45
#6
So tempted....
#7
I bought this same thing from Argos about three years ago for more than double the price. H+
4 Likes #8
Very good price - but these are poorly and cheaply made. You can buy a Stagg set from a guitar shop for about £85 and have it checked and set up for you. There is a worthwhile difference.
#9
If you do buy use the voucher via Quidco to reduce the price.
#10
sits69
I bought this same thing from Argos about three years ago for more than double the price. H+

Whats it like? Good enough for a beginner?
#11
Dantooine
sits69
I bought this same thing from Argos about three years ago for more than double the price. H+

Whats it like? Good enough for a beginner?

Yeah, it's fine for a beginner. Good enough to learn on until they grow out of it, or become very good with it and need to upgrade.
#12
sits69
Dantooine
sits69
I bought this same thing from Argos about three years ago for more than double the price. H+
Whats it like? Good enough for a beginner?
Yeah, it's fine for a beginner. Good enough to learn on until they grow out of it, or become very good with it and need to upgrade.

Thanks. Found some reviews on argos site, very mixed http://reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5400784/reviews.htm
4 Likes #13
I was always told to buy the BEST you can afford for beginning guitar, a poor setup and cheap quality could put you off for life!
It's tempting at this price, got to admit - but as Bertt said, your better off getting a good instrument for a bit more outlay.
#14
Great deal if you want to learn, a normal guitar package costs you twice this amount but you do get a make you might of heard of before (even if it is stag or encore). take it to your local music shop and ask them to setup the guitar for you, should cost about £20 will make all the difference (factory setups on cheap guitars are always bad)

Heat added.
#15
I bought something similar a couple years ago. It's usually the strings that are poor quality. I bought some new strings and a proper tuner for about £10 which made a world of difference to the sound.
#16
I'm looking for one for xmas for my 7 year old. Should he start learning with acoustic or doesn't it really matter?
#17
Wow what an amazing price.
#18
Bertt
If you do buy use the voucher via Quidco to reduce the price.

what voucher?
#19
Good deal, but just to add my voice to those who have already expressed it - an ex-display/nearly-new eBay Squier, Epiphone or Yamaha may be twenty quid or so more than this but IMHO, the "big name" brands are a bit more consistent with their quality control (even for the cheap stuff) and usually the bundled amps are marginally better (and 10W beginner amps are always available quite cheaply).

Heat added, for the absolute beginner.
2 Likes #20
I'm sorry but these are rubbish, i havent found one yet that has even remotely good intonation thus your child will never be able to learn to play on it.

Fine as a toy, but if you actually want your child to learn then this will only make them think THEY can't play when actually the guitar is the problem.

Stagg may be marginally better but the flaw on stagg's is that the machineheads ( tuners) are made of too cheap an alloy, sometimes even plastic so the gearing inside them will break within a few months and you won't be able to tune it.

I unfortunately have to deal with both these junk brands on a daily basis
#21
Wow fab find!

Edited By: miss money saver on Nov 30, 2010 16:29
#22
Dantooine

Thanks. Found some reviews on argos site, very mixed http://reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5400784/reviews.htm


2 bad and 10 good isn't very mixed.
#23
Can i Just ask where abouts on the page it says what you get with it? Can't find it anywhere
1 Like #24
These crappy guitars aren't even worth learning on. Bad instruments, bad feel and ultimately bad playing. This is only good for people who want to give a guitar as a gift, know the person receiving won't actually use it!

Edited By: Hometown Zero on Nov 30, 2010 16:34
#25
ash.connor
Dantooine
Thanks. Found some reviews on argos site, very mixedhttp://reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5400784/reviews.htm
2 bad and 10 good isn't very mixed.

Two 1* reviews - mixed enough for me to decide not to go for it (_;)
#26
ash.connor
Dantooine

Thanks. Found some reviews on argos site, very mixed http://reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5400784/reviews.htm


2 bad and 10 good isn't very mixed.



It's 3 out of 10 and the rest of the 'positive' ones seem a little dodgy/fake to me.
The 3 star reviewer took it back! so why rate 3 stars. Also it says out of 12 reviews, where are the 2 missing reviews?

'The guitar looks EXCACTLY like the genuine Stratford'

well, im convinced LOL

Edited By: cRuNcHiE on Nov 30, 2010 16:38
[helper] 2 Likes #27
clarkeyi
I'm looking for one for xmas for my 7 year old. Should he start learning with acoustic or doesn't it really matter?
This will be too big. Should be looking at a half-size or 3/4 size guitar (probably 3/4). Lidl have some acoustic ones for £30 at the moment (3/4 size and adult http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg/SID-8DA2F900-955FDC77/lidl_uk/hs.xsl/index_15758.htm

alternatively get the encore one from Amazon £35 for half-size or £40 for 3/4 size(comes with bag and spare strings)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000SSECIU

Some sizing info here
http://www.firstguitar.com/Articles/whatsize.html
http://www.ehow.com/how_4780233_choose-size-acoustic-guitar-children.html



Edited By: gari189 on Nov 30, 2010 16:47: ?
#28
Thanks gari189
#29
good price, good for beginners who are on a budget, you would need a amp though really
#30
stebarker
good price, good for beginners who are on a budget, you would need a amp though really

It has one:

...and 10watt RMS amp.
#31
Quidco voucher code doesn't work for this item.
#32
cRuNcHiE
I'm sorry but these are rubbish, i havent found one yet that has even remotely good intonation thus your child will never be able to learn to play on it. Fine as a toy, but if you actually want your child to learn then this will only make them think THEY can't play when actually the guitar is the problem.Stagg may be marginally better but the flaw on stagg's is that the machineheads ( tuners) are made of too cheap an alloy, sometimes even plastic so the gearing inside them will break within a few months and you won't be able to tune it.I unfortunately have to deal with both these junk brands on a daily basis
So what would you recommend for a beginner, Crunchie?
#33
thanks op- daughters been after one but with a trumpet in the loft i didnt want to spend too much!
1 Like #34
Like has been said - don't buy a cheap guitar even if you're a beginner, get a decent brand - you won't regret spending the extra.
#35
#36


Good for kids, but it's worth pointing out that the guitar in your link is not part of a full kit and does not include the amp.
1 Like #37
Lymmguineas

So what would you recommend for a beginner, Crunchie?


That would depend on the age of the person wanting to learn.
Personally i think people will become better players if they start learning on an acoustic rather than electric as its much easier to cover up mistakes/poor playing on electric just by turning up the distortion!
I wouldnt recommend an electric to anyone under around 11 as the majority of smaller sized electric guitars have awful intonation due to the lack of string tension per neck length.
Exceptions to this from my experience are the Ashton Joeyelectric and the Ibanez 3/4 Mikro Though with the ashton you will find the strings need stretching in a lot as theyre pretty poor so i'd just stick on a set of d'addario or ernie ball's instead and it'll be alot better.

For full-size electric at the moment i'd recommend the Tanglewood or Aria strats, they always come well setup and the hardware is pretty good. They'll retail at around £100-125 just for the guitar.
Alot of people might recommend a Squire pack, i don't anymore as the more recent ones have skimped on the hardware. The Pot's ( volume/tone etc) are of low quality and break easy as do the tuners. The bodies are also made of MDF instead of a proper solid piece of wood.

For acoustic,most teachers will say get a classical for the litte ones as the nylon strings are easier on the fingers. while this is true, after a bit of practice on steel it shouldnt really be a problem.
Either way, for small classical guitars, the ones i'd recommend are Valencia Classicals, they go from around £35- £50 1/4 size - 3/4 size including a bag.
The strings on these will also need stretching in ALOT for it to stay in tune at first, this is common with nylon strings. Its important to get your child properly measured up else they will struggle if the guitar is too big for their small fingers and likely give up.

For a starter steel acoustic full size, the main problem with the cheap ones is the ridculously high 'action' ( how high the strings are above the fretboard).
Generally on a steel acoustic the gap between the bottom of the E string and the top of the metal of the 12th fret should be around 3mm. Any higher and it will play sharp when fretted, lower and it will likely buzz as the strings hit the frets. I'd say get one around the £89 mark and up and it should be ok. I usually recommend allowing about £129 on a first steel acoustic as over £100 mark you can usually get one with a built in tuner and the build quality is marginally better too.
1 Like #38
Don't but it. poor quality. i bought this the last time it was posted and i took it straight back the next day, impossible to tune, borken plactic on the fretboard so the strings kept moving up and down. The amp was ok but the guitar would be better off on fire rather than playing "sex on fire".
1 Like #39
Sorry to be a killjoy but I teach guitar and one of my students brought one of these along to a lesson. I was shocked at how terrible it was (until he told me how much it cost). My hands were covered with tiny scratches after five minutes playing it due to sharp ends of the frets at the edge of the fretboard. Cheap and nasty wood, poor intonation and just not worth buying.
#40
Can anyone recommend an electric guitar for under £100? Already have an acoustic (yamaha) and quite fancy a starter electric. Rockburn, encore and Jaxville seem be the only ones of that range. Or Am I not looking right?

Are these brands really worth the extra £60 compared to this one?

Thanks in advance to anyone that can answer.

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