Emmay Care Safety Socket Covers 6 pack - Free delivery £1.49 @ Amazon - HotUKDeals
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Manufacturer's Description
6 x Child proof sockets in seconds. Easy twist & pull removal. Covers prevent children from inserting objests into sockets. Prevents children plugging in electrical appliances.
Product Description
Socket Covers Pack of 6 Emmay Care - 10801
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#3
I have the ikea ones and as much as that site says they are worthless - have you tried getting one out??? Once its in place no way my child is getting it out of the socket...

Also I can see the point of the website buts its full of nonsense to suggest a child is more prone to use one of those to open the socket as opposed to anything lying around that would fit into a plug socket... For me they are worthwhile and I don't think I have ever read a report on a kid getting killed because their parents had fitted these which led to their demise.......
#4
Case in point about that website :

Have you asked the manufacturers of covers that you may use if they have been properly tested for insulation? (No manufacturers have told us that they do!)


Erm - they are plastic.

Smacks to me of someone marketing their own agenda and items..
#5
Evz1974;8466507

Erm - they are plastic.


Oh I see, that in some magical way makes them safe?

Depends what's IN the plastic!

They are stupid idea, our sockets are safe by design, these things offer no improvement over the designed-in safety, and have the potential to reduce it!
#6
I don't think they fill them with metal fillings do they............

Overkill and overbearing nonsense.
#7
Evz1974
Case in point about that website :

Have you asked the manufacturers of covers that you may use if they have been properly tested for insulation? (No manufacturers have told us that they do!)


Erm - they are plastic.

Smacks to me of someone marketing their own agenda and items..


Fatallyflawed has no product to sell, just the message that we should recognise that UK mains sockets are amongst the safest designs and that didn't come by lucky accident, but rather by somebody anticipating and designing to protect against likely risks.

The manufacturers of socket covers, on the other hand, are only driven by the profit motive. Presumably, they design and sell protectors for other types of sockets (where they may indeed prove to be a genuinely useful safety measure, due to the inadequate safety design of the sockets) and were wondering how they could extract similar revenues from the UK market.

I have no affiliation with Fatallyflawed.
#8
I see what you are saying but I bet there are more articles / examples of children sticking things in uncovered sockets than there are of children prying open a covered socket and then coming to harm..
#9
Evz1974
I see what you are saying but I bet there are more articles / examples of children sticking things in uncovered sockets than there are of children prying open a covered socket and then coming to harm..


Providing your sockets are working properly, then the Live and Neutral holes are protected by internal shutters and the kids cannot stick things in them without prying them open by wedging something in the Earth socket (e.g. a socket cover)! If your home's earthing and appliances are working correctly, sticking something in the remaining Earth pin (the top one) is perfectly safe.

And if your sockets, earthing, or appliances aren't working properly, get 'em fixed!
#10
So if they pick up a plug and wedge it in....there could be a problem....

I wonder what you could buy that would stop them doing that??????
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Evz1974
So if they pick up a plug and wedge it in....there could be a problem....

I wonder what you could buy that would stop them doing that??????


A plug won't work, because the Live and Neutral pins at the bottom won't bend out of the way or snap off like plastic socket protectors' pins do when inserted upside-down. If the plug is only partially inserted, the insulation at the base of the Live and Neutral pins will protect fingers and metal objects from coming into contact with the mains.

See Fatallyflawed's photo gallery for examples of what we're talking about, then try it with a plug and a bunch of sockets yourself.

Incidentally, I've always been of a technical inclination, and can distinctly remember trying to plug my Lego motor into the mains when I was a small child. The standard interlocked shuttering on UK sockets prevented that being dangerous.
#12
Hmmm ok interesting and I see your point and appreciate what you are saying (and shall rep you for the discussion), I just still feel its one of those things that really aint worth worrying about as I said earlier - I have never heard of the covers being responsible for any injuries let alone deaths and they do stop little people showing plugs into sockets at the very least (and depending on whats on the end of the plug that can be a good thing as well)
#13
Evz1974;8467560
I don't think they fill them with metal fillings do they............

Overkill and overbearing nonsense.


Plastics can be filled with any number of materials, many of which will easily conduct electricity. Bearing in mind there is no control where and who makes these things, I have no idea what is in them... do you? Odds on they are not greatly electrically conductive, but it's probably just by luck, not planning, and that's just one aspect of many shortcomings.

I would suggest that these silly bits of plastic are the overkill. Ordinarily household gadgets made of plastic wouldn't much matter, after all "it's just a bit of plastic," On their own, they are not something that anyone would think of as dangerous, but the catch with these they actually allow the proper tried and tested safety system to be compromised, and they effectively replace it with it's own which is much less sophisticated, (crudely bunging up the hole!) as well as untested! I can't think of very many items that allow that to happen., and fewer still that anyone would actually buy!

I never came across these very often when working as a Health and Safety Inspector, they are market at domestic use - but for some reason they were very popular in Community Centre-type buildings, where for some reason, misguided people would rush out to spend money on them. Quickest route to getting rid of them was to seize them. No-one ever appealed against their seizure, for one thing, they are self evidently not as good as the original socket safety system once people take the time too look at how that works, as the other poster on here has explained and is also pointed out on the web site.
#14
[COLOR=#1f497d]Many thanks to nihcaj and cowbutt for great contributions.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#1f497d]The founders of FatallyFlawed) are electrical engineers, as engineers we look at the facts, and we believe that these are the relevant ones:[/COLOR]

[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]1.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Prior to 1947 there was significant danger associated with the type of sockets then in use (round pin of several sizes, the 15 amp type being large enough for a child to poke a finger directly into the contact). The danger was sufficiently great for the committee tasked with defining post-war electrical requirements to place the following at the top of the list of requirements for a new socket: “To ensure the safety of young children it is of considerable importance that the contacts of the socket-outlet should be protected by shutters or other like means, or by the inherent design of the socket outlet.” As a result of this “British Standard 1363 : 1947 FUSED PLUGS AND SHUTTERED SOCKET OUTLETS” solved the problem and, apart from the misguided use of socket covers, it has remained solved to this day.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]2.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]All UK safety bodies recognize that UK sockets are inherently safe.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]3.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]From the above it is abundantly clear that there is no requirement for socket covers to be used with BS 1363 sockets.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]4.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]All socket covers on the UK market may be used to defeat the in-built safety shutters by means of inverted insertion.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]5.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]No socket covers on the market meet the standard dimensions for plug pins, therefore all are unpredictable in terms of withdrawal force. (A cover which is very tight in one socket can be very loose in another - see Does Size Matter)[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]6.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]The majority of socket covers on the market fail to meet the standard dimensions for safely shrouding the contacts when the shutters are opened. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]7.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]No socket cover manufacturer actually claims to have tested their product for insulation properties. (see this EU report to learn more about how socket covers should be tested!)[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]8.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Most socket covers actually sold facilitate the insertion of foreign bodies into the live contact, precisely the opposite of what they claim. Emmay, IKEA and Mothercare all allow paper clips etc to be poked into the live contacts, (the holes are not actually fully covered) the shutters within sockets prevent that.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]9.[/FONT] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1f497d][FONT=Calibri]Some socket covers have additional safety issues, eg fragile pins.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#1f497d]Taking into account all of the above then there is no possible argument to justify permitting the sale of socket covers, and yet there is no regulation of them other than to ensure that they are too large to swallow, and are not toxic![/COLOR]

[COLOR=#1f497d]Stay wise, stay away fromn socket covers.[/COLOR]

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