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External USB2 Satellite Receiver for PC (HD Capable) Approx. £23.85 DELIVERED after USD conversion

£23.85 @ DealExtreme
Fully understand some people dislike DealExtreme, but then again, I've never had a problem with them.... Spec indicates that this can handle High Def. No reviews confirming this, but if it does, th…
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Fully understand some people dislike DealExtreme, but then again, I've never had a problem with them....

Spec indicates that this can handle High Def. No reviews confirming this, but if it does, then high def FREESAT channels such as BBC HD and ITV HD should be picked up if you point your dish in the right direction!

Spec (as from DealExtreme website):

Model: TV-SO2
- Supports DVB-S MPEG-2 Standard
- USB 2.0 interface
- F-type 75Ohm setallite dish connector
- 950~2150MHz frequency supported
- Supports DiSEqC1.0/1.2
- Supports MCPC+SCPC
- Electronic programming guide (EPG) supported
- SDTV and HDTV supported
- Software provides DVR (digital video recorder) functionality
- Comes with a fully featured infrared IR slim remote controller (1 x CR2025 included)
- 100V~240V AC adapter included
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#1
Do you need a dish for this?
Forgive my ignorance...
#2
gus77
Do you need a dish for this?
Forgive my ignorance...


Yes, you'll need a satellite TV feed. The one from an unused Sky box would do the trick. Or spli the existing cable to make a secondary feed.
#3
I do not believe this can receive HD as it is only MPEG2. HD uses MPEG4.
#4
I agree with Jefft - it will not receive BBC HD.

This info below is from the BBC web site:

"To be compatible with the BBC's HD stream, a digital box must comply with the following:
* It can be demonstrated to decode the BBC's MPEG-4 HD stream.
* It decodes both DVB-S and DVB-S2 transmissions.
* It can recognise both the current and future values of HD service type used in the UK and the rest of Europe."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/digitaltv/faq_hd.shtml

This product (Shenzen Forward DM04) also may have issues with driver software:
http://forums.dsstester.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=105145
#5
thought most dvb cards don't actually decode the stream that is usually down to a codec
#6
you may get get with import duty and/or by customs&excise, as this is more than £18
#7
Jefft
I do not believe this can receive HD as it is only MPEG2. HD uses MPEG4.

avchd HDcamcorders use a MPEG-2 Transport stream to record 1080 HD video with a MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 codec to compress it so i think BBC HD may do the same .But its not very clear in the specs of this sat reciever but it does say HD but seems very cheap so it may rely on PC to do decoding so i would think it would be ok for BBC HD providing PC is up to it .Voted hot got to worth risking few pounds on
#8
czrsiNk
Yes, you'll need a satellite TV feed. The one from an unused Sky box would do the trick. Or spli the existing cable to make a secondary feed.


If memory serves me right you can't split the feed from a single LNB to two receivers..... you would normally need to change the LNB for a dual or quad type LNB and use a separate cable from each feed !

Jav
#9
Interesting... I know there's a communal Sky dish outside my flats and I'm sure there's a wall socket somewhere.
#10
gus77
Do you need a dish for this?
Forgive my ignorance...


Here's one I built Earlier !? ;

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7720/tinfoilhat2cy2.jpg
:whistling:
#11
It should work for BBC HD. It would need an H.264 decoder, but there's a few freebie ones floating around. I use just a bog standard dvb-s mpeg2 card to get BBC HD and ITV HD. ITV HD takes a bit more work to view though as they tell porkies as to what the stream is and try to force it to only work as a 'red button' service which would only work with a FreeSat box.


Using a splitter in the coax is a no-no really, voltage is sent back up the cable and is 14 or 18 volts depending on the polarisation of the channel you are watching. A dual, quad or octo LNB and a separate run of cable is the only way.

You would need a reasonable CPU and a good video card to view HD as well.
#12
martint123
It should work for BBC HD. It would need an H.264 decoder, but there's a few freebie ones floating around. I use just a bog standard dvb-s mpeg2 card to get BBC HD and ITV HD. ITV HD takes a bit more work to view though as they tell porkies as to what the stream is and try to force it to only work as a 'red button' service which would only work with a FreeSat box.


Using a splitter in the coax is a no-no really, voltage is sent back up the cable and is 14 or 18 volts depending on the polarisation of the channel you are watching. A dual, quad or octo LNB and a separate run of cable is the only way.

You would need a reasonable CPU and a good video card to view HD as well.

thanks for the info thought this would be ok for hd as i thought it was mpeg2 data stream for HD broadcast .My PC decodes and plays avch H.264 from hd camcorder ok should this also decode this just as well or is there more to it.Also notice its got LNB out could it be daisy chained with sky box or whould LNB swiching be messed up even with one box turned off
#13
guv
I didnt look previously, but this definately WILL NOT be any good for HD. The receiver needs to be DVB-S2 - this isnt.

BBC HD isn't on a DVB-S2 transponder; it shares a DVB-S transponder with a couple of BBC ONE regional (SD) variants.
#14
Just to echo the above.
You will need a DVB-S2 for HD content.

If you want to go down this route, then the best place to buy is [url]www.dvbshop.net[/url]
#15
I don't care what the BBC says. I can receive and record BBC HD using one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143331

And with one of these http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=809136

They are both DVB-S tuners - NOT DVB-S2

I've got a 10.5GB file of tonights Strictly Come Dancing (for the old dear) if you need proof.
#16
martint123
I don't care what the BBC says. I can receive and record BBC HD using one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143331

And with one of these http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=809136

They are both DVB-S tuners - NOT DVB-S2

I've got a 10.5GB file of tonights Strictly Come Dancing (for the old dear) if you need proof.


at a diff of only 2-3squid i might buy a couple of those compro ones, are the drivers bda? want to use with media portal :)
#17
maddogb
at a diff of only 2-3squid i might buy a couple of those compro ones, are the drivers bda? want to use with media portal :)



if they are bda, then scrap media portal & use alt-dvb with some interesting "plugins"
#18
guv
OK cheers. Can you email it over? :w00t::p:-D


don't say that one of my more dreary jobs is sorting out why clients can't pick up their email and often it's cos some berk has sent em a 4gb+ file lol
#19
bojangles
if they are bda, then scrap media portal & use alt-dvb with some interesting "plugins"


yeah right trust my mrs with that, nice lookin tool but not really for htpc use
#20
BBC HD uses DVB-S1 at present (I've been watching it for 2.5 years on S1 kit), but they'll move to S2 at some vague point in the future. However S2 kit is overprived at present though, S1 costs near nothing. Cheaper to buy S1 now, and S2 when you need.

Oh, and as others have said, receivers don't decode.
#21
would this get everything my pci skystar2 gets ;-);-)
#22
Just to clarify some points. The tuner is compatible with an HD source but this is NOT the same as FreeSAT. However, the tuner is NOT certified FreeSAT which means it is NOT guaranteed to receive BBC HD and ITV HD (note the empahasis on NOT guaranteed) but this does not mean other HD sources decoded using MPEG 2 cannot be received. As it stands the tuner receives the satellite signal and the MPEG 4 decoding is done by software and NOT an onboard decoder. What this means is that as long as software is available to decode MPEG 4 and that the tuner is capable of high bandwidth content for HD channels then you can use this tuner to receive FREESAT HD channels including BBC HD and ITV HD.

Currently, Windows Media Center does not decode MPEG 4 and neither does PowerCinema nor MediaPortal and many others. A piece of software called DVBViewer is capable of decoding satellite streams in MPEG 4.

Here are some bullet points to disentangle some issues.

1. HD content is content that is higher resolution than standard definition (in this country, SD is PAL which is 576 vertical resolution).
2. FreeSAT channels including BBC HD and ITV HD are HD channels but just because a tuner can decode HD does not mean it can decode FreeSAT HD channels. HD can be encoded in MPEG 2 or MPEG 4 or any other codec. Furthermore, BBC HD and ITV HD are currently transmitted on the DVB-S format.
3. Point 2 above made the comment that BBC HD are HD channels but not all HD channels can be decoded by certain software. However, DVB Viewer can decode MPEG 4 transmissions.
#23
kevingattaca2
Here's one I built Earlier !? ;

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7720/tinfoilhat2cy2.jpg
:whistling:



The guy in that pic looks like broadcaster James Whale with hair.
#24
andy math;3013574
avchd HDcamcorders use a MPEG-2 Transport stream to record 1080 HD video with a MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 codec to compress it so i think BBC HD may do the same .



Yup, that's exactly what they use. Mpeg2-ts container (which confuses things, but it's just a container), but the actual video is h264/avc 1080 line 50hz interlaced, with flags for 1080p 25fps if it's film.
#25
maddogb;3015481
at a diff of only 2-3squid i might buy a couple of those compro ones, are the drivers bda? want to use with media portal :)



Yup, Compro has DBA drivers - I use it with both DVBviewer and GBPVR
The pinnacle one is a bit tricky to find working DBA drivers for! :x
#26
Ive got one of them, couldnt get it to find any channels at all? the software seemed to look up as fair bit, when trying different things in the menus to get it working
#27
any one buy one of these?

were u successful in getting the HD channels in the end?
#28
Have read this thread several times guys and can't seem to figure this out. Sorry for my ignorance on the subject!

Would love for HD on my tv. I've got a sky satelite dish (about 4 years old) and a reasonable pc and a hdtv.

The ones from Scan and Ebuyer above look like the thing I'm after. Can anyone confirm that if I buy one I'll be able to stick it in my pc and get bbc hd and itv hd on my tv?

Thanks!
#29
guv
Its not future proof (though what is - and at this price does it matter!) I say this because the current broadcasts are not on the transponders that they eventually will be. Timescale for switchover - who knows, but I'd imagine you will be fine for quite some time.

But yes, it will receive BBC HD etc from your sky dish. However, there will be a few things you will need!

Do you currently have sky + ? If you do, then you will already have a Quad LNB. You would need to run another cable from the LNB to your PC receiver. You could use a splitter to avoid this, but it introduces limitations. Personally, I would add the extra cable. If you dont have a quad LNB, then you can replace the LNB you have quite easily.

Do you have HDMI out (or DVI) on your PC? To make it worthwhile, your PC must have this else you wont benefit from the HD broadcast. (Making this exercise a bit pointless!)



Thanks guv!

I currently have a sky box that is out of contract so just working as free sat. I don't tend to use it much so would be happy to take the cable out of that and plug it into the pc assuming that works.

I have vga to the tv, it'll be dvi soon but doesn't make alot of difference. Still hd res.
#30
ok, so this has an lnb in and an lnb out. so could i put it inbetween my sky box without splitting the cable? and could you get ITV hd on this? i have a pc sat there doing nothing, so could set this up with DVI output on it and get ITV HD maybe??

thanks

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