Extra Value 200Mbps Powerline Adapter - Twin Pack **GREAT PRICE** - £49.98 Delivered @ Ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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Just ordered one of these based on price and reviews - looks good

* Universal supply works over a power line voltage range of 100 to 230 VAC 50/60Hz
* Support 1024 / 256 / 64 / 16 / 8 QAM, QPSK, BPSK, and ROBO modulation schemes
* Up to 200 Mbps on the power line
* Maximum logical network members is 16 including the CCo
* IGMP v3 snooping with multicast to multiple unicast support in CSMA
* Maximum of 6 IGMP streams from a single server to a single client
* Maximum of 8 distinct destinations for a single IGMP stream
* Maximum of 16 IGMP streams from one server to a maximum of 15 clients
* Maximum of 4 neighboring networks
* Programmable TTL - Time to live per channel access priority
* 64 bridged devices per station
* Frequency Band on Powerline 2-30 MHz
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#1
#2
I'm confused ... what does it do????
#3
Frazzled
I'm confused ... what does it do????


uses your powerline as a network cable basically, so you don't need wireless or fancy wiring.
#4
Good deal for a pair of these.

All the 200mbps powerline stuff should start to fall in price now that the gigabit ones are about to appear

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The gigabit ones are just about to appear over here, they are already out in the US for $150/pair.

See Belkin site for details.
#5
Please not that 200mps is never obtainable.

If you get >20mps your doing well. Which will probably be faster than wireless, however much mor stable.
#6
A few pressure groups trying to these things banned for spewing wireless interference from your house wiring.
If OFCOM get called in, they can make you turn them off, no kidding.
#7
is the software that comes with these adapters compatible with Vista & Windows7?
#8
A bit of tech help needed.... I have a speedtouch modem (BT Line), can i use these, or do i need to get a router?

thanks
#9
Threlly
A few pressure groups trying to these things banned for spewing wireless interference from your house wiring.
If OFCOM get called in, they can make you turn them off, no kidding.


Yeh right. They'll come round your house?
#10
hermano2
A bit of tech help needed.... I have a speedtouch modem (BT Line), can i use these, or do i need to get a router?

thanks


These will work with any modem with a network port.

modem --> cat5 (network cable) ---> powerline adapter (in plug socket) --> electrical circuit ---> powerline adapter (in another plug socket) --> cat5 (network cable) --> any device you want on your network
#11
These things are great!!

People cannot beleive that you can send data traffic around your home using the mains wiring!

I have 80Mbps models and they work just fine for streaming data from one machine to another and perfectly fine for internet access as an alternative to 'cagey' wireless.

I use these all the time for streaming things from my PC upstairs to the PS3 in the living room without a hitch. Using wireless was so jumpy when trying to watch a film.

All you need to do is connect a CAT 5 cable from your router to one of these, which will be plugged into a mains wall socket.

Then plug the other one in a mains socket next to your other device (PC, PS3, XBox) and connect a CAT 5 cable from this to the device.

No drivers or anything required!!

Note that the cables i got with my model were particulary short so you may need something bigger.
#12
Can you 'mix n match' these things?
I have 2 Devolo 200Mbs ones already installed - will these work alongside those or do I need to get 2 more of the Devolo ones?
#13
hermano2
A bit of tech help needed.... I have a speedtouch modem (BT Line), can i use these, or do i need to get a router?

thanks


Is your device just a modem or does it have extra CAT5 ports on it? Hence it becomes a modem\router.

You will need a router if not so you can share your internet connection.
#14
These have already been listed and expired for some reason.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/420118/extra-value-200mbps-powerline-adapt/

Not complaining though because sometimes people miss out on the deals.

I have these and they work great and if you have any questions about them just let me know! :)
#15
abx
These have already been listed and expired for some reason.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/420118/extra-value-200mbps-powerline-adapt/

Not complaining though because sometimes people miss out on the deals.

I have these and they work great and if you have any questions about them just let me know! :)


I believe Ebuyer had them on a 24 hour promotion 3-4 weeks ago.

Weirdly these were cheaper or i think the same price as the 'slower' model by the same manufacturer and had free delivery on them.

The 85Mbps are now £37.49 and you will have to stick a delivery charge on top of that so these are a steal!!
#16
credington
Yeh right. They'll come round your house?


Actually, they can, and you're legally required to comply.
If somebody complains about interference from the devices, they investigate.
If you are found to be the source of the interference, you have to fix it or remove them.
The same as if a CB'er or taxi firm interferes with your TV reception.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/plt/
#17
Threlly
Actually, they can, and you're legally required to comply.
If somebody complains about interference from the devices, they investigate.
If you are found to be the source of the interference, you have to fix it or remove them.
The same as if a CB'er or taxi firm interferes with your TV reception.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/plt/


140 complaints from about half a million installations. I would suggest that you'd have to be unlucky enough to live next door to a radio ham to have any real problems.
#18
already posted (mod's need to unexpire the other thread). :thumbsup:
#19
abx

I have these and they work great and if you have any questions about them just let me know! :)


Do you know if these are sensitive to different firmware levels? I have Zyxel pla-401s at the moment and they will only operate with other 401s if they are at the same firmware level - pain in the neck. seriously considering swapping to these if they are more tolerant in this respect.

Thanks in advance,
BG
#20
can someone provide me with a link to a good w/less repeater i could use with this & Sky Broadband (Netgear DG834GT Router)

Thanks
#21
dasher
Is your device just a modem or does it have extra CAT5 ports on it? Hence it becomes a modem\router.

You will need a router if not so you can share your internet connection.



Thanks dasher, this is my modem, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedtouch_330

which i guess will not support these? If not, any recomendations on what i would need (cheaply) to get these up and running.

cheers
#22
Threlly
A few pressure groups trying to these things banned for spewing wireless interference from your house wiring.
If OFCOM get called in, they can make you turn them off, no kidding.

yes i have seen this they cause quite bad interferance on shortwave and ofcom are looking into it .Would have thought if they are banned you would have them knocking at your door if radio ham complained which they would do still they are a good deal though
#23
Computerman


I notice the Dlink model has a "power saving" mode.

The ebuyer version does not mention this. If anyone has bought these, does it mention power saving in the manual? Or would anyone have an idea of the running costs of these?

Any info appreciated.
#24
Threlly
A few pressure groups trying to these things banned for spewing wireless interference from your house wiring.
If OFCOM get called in, they can make you turn them off, no kidding.
#25
credington;5609456
Yeh right. They'll come round your house?


I think they've got a van and everything :-D
#26
You cant mix and match these between manufacturers unfortunately. In theory they should conform to the "home plug" standards but I never got them to work even with up to date firm ware.

I get 40 - 60mb sustained out of these 200mb plugs real world over 4 floors in our house. So yes you can stream hd with these things unless your wiring is completely demic. These plugs even work over different circuits and split level consumer units in my house.

So much better than wifi. This is basically as closee as you can get to a hard wired connection without ripping up your house and laying network cable everywhere.

140 complaints from about half a million installations. I would suggest that you'd have to be unlucky enough to live next door to a radio ham to have any real problems.


In reality its going to be impossible to prove. No legal requirement to let them in your house or even say you are using them.
#27
alera
You cant mix and match these between manufacturers unfortunately. In theory they should conform to the "home plug" standards but I never got them to work even with up to date firm ware.

I get 40 - 60mb sustained out of these 200mb plugs real world over 4 floors in our house. So yes you can stream hd with these things unless your wiring is completely demic. These plugs even work over different circuits and split level consumer units in my house.

So much better than wifi. This is basically as closee as you can get to a hard wired connection without ripping up your house and laying network cable everywhere.



In reality its going to be impossible to prove. No legal requirement to let them in your house or even say you are using them.

No legal requirement to let them in your house but they give you 28 days to sort out or be issued you with £1000 fine they can pinpiont were interferance is from so no need to go in your house would need complaint for them to act though as they are still legal to use
#28
tiddler
I notice the Dlink model has a "power saving" mode.

The ebuyer version does not mention this. If anyone has bought these, does it mention power saving in the manual? Or would anyone have an idea of the running costs of these?

Any info appreciated.


I'd guess these draw no more than 5-10W. As a rough rule of thumb, equipment left on 24/7 for a year costs the same in pounds as its watt rating i.e. 5W device cost £5 a year to run.

The tiny things aren't worth worring about in your home if you are trying to cut energy footprint. You waste far more each year by overfilling your kettle, opening a door and letting heat out or washing anything that gets recycled.
#29
These things are great. Much better than WiFi if you're internet is 20Mbits or faster.
#30
alera
In reality its going to be impossible to prove. No legal requirement to let them in your house or even say you are using them.


They can prove beyond ALL doubt that you are using them.
Once the notice to act has been created, OFCOM have similar powers to Customs & Excise.
They can basically go where they like and do what they like, if they need the rozzers, they bring them too.
Remember, these are the same boys that close illegal broadcast stations and track criminals using digital networks.
If you have a radio amateur living nearby, I'd check that your not interfering with them.
if THEY call in OFCOM, and OFCOM rule against you, YOU pick up ALL costs to remedy the situation.
So yes laughing boy, they do have a 'van'.
#31
Threlly
They can prove beyond ALL doubt that you are using them.
Once the notice to act has been created, OFCOM have similar powers to Customs & Excise.
They can basically go where they like and do what they like, if they need the rozzers, they bring them too.
Remember, these are the same boys that close illegal broadcast stations and track criminals using digital networks.
If you have a radio amateur living nearby, I'd check that your not interfering with them.
if THEY call in OFCOM, and OFCOM rule against you, YOU pick up ALL costs to remedy the situation.
So yes laughing boy, they do have a 'van'.


Cobblers!:p

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/plt/

FFS, if there is a brothel or a drugs den operating in an area, the old bill are usually too busy to move in so they aren't gonna raid your house 'cos a radio ham complains!!!
#32
cheapskate58
FFS, if there is a brothel or a drugs den operating in an area, the old bill are usually too busy to move in so they aren't gonna raid your house 'cos a radio ham complains!!!


I'd give the Radio Ham something to complain about, by taking a hacksaw to his antenna:evil:

Or maybe a couple of strategically placed magnets:whistling:

Surely you'd just switch them off for a few days, let the dust settle and then switch them back on again!
#33
I recently bought a pair of comtrend 200mbit ones off ebay for £36 delivered.
So not convinced £50 for a pair of unbranded ones is that great of a price - suppose it depends if you have a problem trusting ebay suppliers.
#34
cheapskate58
Cobblers!:p

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/enforcement/plt/

FFS, if there is a brothel or a drugs den operating in an area, the old bill are usually too busy to move in so they aren't gonna raid your house 'cos a radio ham complains!!!


Not too bright eh!
They have to act if interference to services is suspected.
Simple as.
And more interestingly, they seem to be more active in recent years. obviously there is revenue there.
The kit the investigators have tell them what house, when it was used, and depending on the data fingerprint, what make and model.
The complaining party calls them in, they investigate, if the complainer is at fault, they get charged a £60 callout fee.
If they find the interfering devices, your PLT wireless in this case, they have the power to confiscate, to restrict usage or where abuse is taking place arrest via the Police.
And, if you read the cases on the web, they've done all three when these PLT things are involved.

It would probably help if you knew what you were talking about before you posted your smiley.
#35
Tritonbairn
I'd give the Radio Ham something to complain about, by taking a hacksaw to his antenna:evil:

Or maybe a couple of strategically placed magnets:whistling:

Surely you'd just switch them off for a few days, let the dust settle and then switch them back on again!


Magnets?
Are you a retard or something ?
What are magnets going to do ?
As for for turning them off, they leave data logging receivers onsite for months if necessary.
I suggest you do take a hacksaw to somebodies property, just desserts I think.
#36
Threlly
They can prove beyond ALL doubt that you are using them.
Once the notice to act has been created, OFCOM have similar powers to Customs & Excise.
They can basically go where they like and do what they like, if they need the rozzers, they bring them too.
Remember, these are the same boys that close illegal broadcast stations and track criminals using digital networks.
If you have a radio amateur living nearby, I'd check that your not interfering with them.
if THEY call in OFCOM, and OFCOM rule against you, YOU pick up ALL costs to remedy the situation.
So yes laughing boy, they do have a 'van'.


Where are you getting this crap from? I think you are confusing OFCOM with the FCC and American news stories.
Criminals using "digital networks"? What does that even mean? The internet is a digital network, OFCOM is not responsible for policing the internet.

Even if OFCOM did have this door kicking down, radio device taking department. Powerline adaptors are not a piece of radio equipment anyway.

Also this whole sentence

"Once the notice to act has been created, OFCOM have similar powers to Customs & Excise.
They can basically go where they like and do what they like, if they need the rozzers, they bring them too"

Is stupid and makes no sense. Stop scaremongering with your vague unbacked up information. OFCOM is a regulatory board not a law enforcement agency.

Maybe Sky 1 could send a camera crew with them and make a new TV show out of it. That suuure would be exciting with all the letter sending they do.
#37
#38
abaxas
Please not that 200mps is never obtainable.

If you get >20mps your doing well. Which will probably be faster than wireless, however much mor stable.


rubbish. i got a pair and they gave me 100mbps from the moment i plugged them in, which i guess is the max i can expect with a non-gigabit lan router.

dasher
I believe Ebuyer had them on a 24 hour promotion 3-4 weeks ago.


they have been at this price since i posted the deal over 2 weeks ago (which oddly enough, has been expired....hmmm, how did that happen)
#39
Threlly
Not too bright eh!
They have to act if interference to services is suspected.
Simple as.
And more interestingly, they seem to be more active in recent years. obviously there is revenue there.
The kit the investigators have tell them what house, when it was used, and depending on the data fingerprint, what make and model.
The complaining party calls them in, they investigate, if the complainer is at fault, they get charged a £60 callout fee.
If they find the interfering devices, your PLT wireless in this case, they have the power to confiscate, to restrict usage or where abuse is taking place arrest via the Police.
And, if you read the cases on the web, they've done all three when these PLT things are involved.

It would probably help if you knew what you were talking about before you posted your smiley.


You're the cobblers-talking one matey:p

How many people have been hauled before the courts because they have been using this piece of equipment?

err...none:whistling:
#40
Does anyone know exactly how wide each one is? The ebuyer site didn't seem to have unit dimensions but one comment suggested you wouldn't be able to use the other half of a double plug where you had one installed. I'd like to check.

Thanks,
BG

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