Extra Value 85Mbps Powerline Homeplug Adapter - Twin Pack - £34.99 + shipping (free over £49.99) @ ebuyer - HotUKDeals
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I've got these (paid about this amount for 1when I bought them and this deal is for a paid). They are great for allowing you to plug your router into the master socket and pass the signal via the mains electric supply. Better than wireless (which is at best 54Mbs and you rarely get that) and more reliable in my experience (plus more secure).

A good deal as far as I can see.

Twin Pack (85 Mbps units)

This adapter can provide the transmission of broadband data service via power line, which are
suitable for use in a wide range of both residential (in-home) and commercial (offices, apartments,
hotels, warehouses) network applications in which existing power lines can be utilized. There is
never any need to install new wires. These adapters enable the effortless creation of a high-speed
network that supports video, voice and data.
Feature
Universal supply works over a power line voltage range of 85 to 265 VAC, 50~60Hz
Support QAM 256/64/16,DQPSK,DBPSK and ROBO modulation schemes
Up to 85 Mbps data rate on the power line
HomePlug Turbo 1.0 compatible
56-bit DES Link Encryption with key management for secure power line communications
Integrated Quality of Service (QoS) features such as prioritized random access, contention-free
access, and segment bursting
Low power consumption
Applications
Standard Video TV (SDTV)
TV over IP (IPTV)
High data rate broadband sharing
Shared broadband internet access
Audio and video streaming and transfer
Voice over IP calls
PC file and application sharing
Printer and peripheral sharing
Network and online gaming
Security cameras
External Connectors
1 Power jack
1 10/100M RJ45 port
Protocol Feature
HomePlug Turbo1.0 compatible
Security Support
56-bit DES Link Encryption with key management for secure power line communications
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#1
Q. With homeplug can you remove the plug as you go and plug it in elsewhere. Eg. Your setting in the kitchen with your laptop plugged in and want to go to the living room, can you plug it out, walk to the living room, plug it in or does it need re-configured? :thinking:
#2
Triggster
Q. With homeplug can you remove the plug as you go and plug it in elsewhere. Eg. Your setting in the kitchen with your laptop plugged in and want to go to the living room, can you plug it out, walk to the living room, plug it in or does it need re-configured? :thinking:


yes you can just plug it in where you need it mate, no reconfiguring required.
#3
Triggster
Q. With homeplug can you remove the plug as you go and plug it in elsewhere. Eg. Your setting in the kitchen with your laptop plugged in and want to go to the living room, can you plug it out, walk to the living room, plug it in or does it need re-configured? :thinking:

Great question:thumbsup:

Also is this compatible with cable modems i.e Virgin/ NTL /Telewest?

Cheers
#4
You can plug it in without reconfiguring it. The two devices must be able to communicate though so if you bought two sets, you might need to set them all up on the same "wavelength" (not sure how you do that) and of course they must all be on the same circuit, which for most people means any socket in the house but could mean any sockets on the same floor, if you have two separate ring mains.
Of course, your next door neighbour won't be able to share it!
suspended#5
Does it come with ethernet cables?

At amazon - £39 with free delivery and includes them according to a review.Different Brand I imagine

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Max-Value-Mbps-Home-Double/dp/B000TV7FJ4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1229686378&sr=1-2
1 Like #6
Ebuyer also have the faster (200Mb) zyxel PLA-401 adapters at £27.49 each (or bizarrely £78.30 for 2!). So 2 would work out at £49.98. If you don't need the faster ones then fine, but this does allow a bit of future-proofing for not much extra.

BTW the 85Mb and 200Mb systems can't be used together, but can co-exist (i.e. 2 separate networks on the same mains system).
#7
Hi all
,using 4 of these at the mo,working brilliant,im on telewest,once youve inputted the plug code(on back of plug)
you can use them any where around the house,living room,kitchen,upstairs,garage,ive tried them in every socket in the house and they work perfectly,even off an an extension lead,just remember you will need a router if you use more than one,two is the minimum starter kit,if you want to use more youll require the router as i found out for myself,,"i love em"
#8
The reason I ask is I want to use my 360 upstairs in the G/F house, but she only has a wireless router.

Im not sure if just buying the wireless adaptor for the 360 would be more effective, but I always have problems with what must be her solid lead walls, and sometimes even my laptop struggles to get strong wireless.

Can you still use adjasant sockets to power things?
#9
It's well worth getting the faster ones for the sake of a few quid.
#10
The reason i chose these plugs was because theyre narrower than some other types,and you can plug things in next to them,ive got 2 desktops running on them,and a 360 in the loft,all working fine
#11
MrHappyManParr
The reason I ask is I want to use my 360 upstairs in the G/F house, but she only has a wireless router.

Im not sure if just buying the wireless adaptor for the 360 would be more effective, but I always have problems with what must be her solid lead walls, and sometimes even my laptop struggles to get strong wireless.

Can you still use adjasant sockets to power things?


Are you sure the router is wireless only, normally they have a single ethernet port too and that's all you need for these.

They dont affect any sockets, I've run one in an extension lead and unsed the other sockets in that and it works fine.

I understand people saying to go for the higher spec ones but to be honest what are you likely to run which needs more than 85Mbs?... by the time you have a reason the more expensive ones will be free with cornflakes!
#12
blacklion1725
Ebuyer also have the faster (200Mb) zyxel PLA-401 adapters at £27.49 each (or bizarrely £78.30 for 2!). So 2 would work out at £49.98. If you don't need the faster ones then fine, but this does allow a bit of future-proofing for not much extra.

BTW the 85Mb and 200Mb systems can't be used together, but can co-exist (i.e. 2 separate networks on the same mains system).


How would 2 work out at £49.98? Is there a discount I'm missing?
#13
I'm not an electrician so I might need someone else to clarify this. My understanding is that in UK homes you might have two ring mains (ring circuits) so the signal can only be carried through one ring.

This means that unless you are an electrician and have bridging utilities to bridge the two rings, your signal might not be carried to all of your house.

I think in my house I have an upstairs and downstairs main, which means if I want to send network traffic from the hub in my bedroom to a socket in my front room; it will not work.

I don't know anyone who has found a decent powerline network adapter that are any good but I'm open to the fact that there might be some! :thumbsup:
#14
gobofraggle
How would 2 work out at £49.98? Is there a discount I'm missing?


Sorry - you're not missing anything, I can't count - should be 2 x £27.49 = £54.98 - good spot ;)
#15
kwakwaversal
I'm not an electrician so I might need someone else to clarify this. My understanding is that in UK homes you might have two ring mains (ring circuits) so the signal can only be carried through one ring.

This means that unless you are an electrician and have bridging utilities to bridge the two rings, your signal might not be carried to all of your house.

I think in my house I have an upstairs and downstairs main, which means if I want to send network traffic from the hub in my bedroom to a socket in my front room; it will not work.

I don't know anyone who has found a decent powerline network adapter that are any good but I'm open to the fact that there might be some! :thumbsup:


I can only speak from experience but I have mine split across 3 ring mains (up, down, extension, and they work fine. I do have a reasonably new consumer unit. One thing they don't like is surge protectors though.
#16
another question :

Will these affect DECT powerline phone extenders?

I need my multiroom sky box to be connected to one of these at all times. Hardwiring a phone extension would be a pain in the behind and have wires on show so not wanting to do that.
#17
I read online that they can be used across different rings as long as they go to the same consumer unit/fuse box. The website was homeplug's. Google it for more info. Heat.
#18
blacklion1725
I can only speak from experience but I have mine split across 3 ring mains (up, down, extension, and they work fine. I do have a reasonably new consumer unit. One thing they don't like is surge protectors though.


Same here,working fine
#19
MrHappyManParr
The reason I ask is I want to use my 360 upstairs in the G/F house, but she only has a wireless router.

Im not sure if just buying the wireless adaptor for the 360 would be more effective, but I always have problems with what must be her solid lead walls, and sometimes even my laptop struggles to get strong wireless.

Can you still use adjasant sockets to power things?


I've had a similar problem with wireless in the past but picked up the 360 adaptor for £34 from Game and its excellent. VERY strong signal and not dropped connection yet, cant tell the difference over wired yet (other than having less headaches from OH moaning over the wire being strewn over the house!!!) :-D
#20
dont agree that they are faster...depends on alot of factors....have the netgear hd homeplug (better than the powerlines imo) that supposedly runs at up to 200mb/s...but rarely gets over 38mb/s, though this is fine anyway, my wireless seems/is alot faster, though again is limited to my isp connection speed - up 20mb/s....nevertheless the my internal home network - wired devices win hands down (on gigabit), then wireless (wireless n - up to 600mb/s - though reality is near 300mb/s that at best), then the homeplug (38mb/s)...still its a clever way to network though
#21
Where did you get wireless n that does 600mb/s? I thought the max limit was 300mb/s and nobody gets anywhere near that in the real world..

Go for 200mb/s homeplugs - it's silly not to for the small price difference. The Amazon extra value ones work very well for me.
#22
dangel
Where did you get wireless n that does 600mb/s? I thought the max limit was 300mb/s and nobody gets anywhere near that in the real world..

Go for 200mb/s homeplugs - it's silly not to for the small price difference. The Amazon extra value ones work very well for me.


has anyone tried these on the Virgin 20mb BB service? What sorts of speed can you get out of them? Do you still get around 16-17mb?
#23
as an electrician (though 10 years out of the game) even though you have seperate ring mains, the earthing for the house is all back to one single point, and its the earth cable that will be the main carrier of these signals i beleive.
#24
stu83
I read online that they can be used across different rings as long as they go to the same consumer unit/fuse box. The website was homeplug's. Google it for more info. Heat.


Correct. :thumbsup:
#25
Just a heads up for anyone considering a 200Mbps set up - Amazon are doing the ZyXEL PLA-401 Twin Powerline for £48.92. :gift:

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#26
ValiantSaint
has anyone tried these on the Virgin 20mb BB service? What sorts of speed can you get out of them? Do you still get around 16-17mb?


I don't have Virgin, but I do have o2 adsl2+. I get 16Mbps at the router, and the same around the house with my homeplugs, no noticeably degradation of speed.

I also run 2 downstairs & 1 upstairs, no problems at all. I bought a different brand from Amazon, just the cheapo 'max value' I think. They are only rated at 85Mbps but when your b/band connection is a quarter of that you won't have any problems.
#27
ValiantSaint
has anyone tried these on the Virgin 20mb BB service? What sorts of speed can you get out of them? Do you still get around 16-17mb?


rockrat
as an electrician (though 10 years out of the game) even though you have seperate ring mains, the earthing for the house is all back to one single point, and its the earth cable that will be the main carrier of these signals i beleive.


Conflicting Info then, Live and Neutral carry the binary data or earth and live?

im guessing Live and Neutral?
was thinkin about getting one for my brother as he want to use a xbox360 and router is downstairs and has bad range...
....but most likely diff power rings if by u mean diff fuse supporting the sockets from up to down stairs,
#28
Interesting gadget never knew you could get these things. Regarding having to be connected to the same circut, I think some older configurations are separated from upstairs and downstairs (could be wrong though).

Edit: oops just noticed links above....
#29
Word of slight caution - These type of unit are very good (I have Zyxel PLA401s x 3 in my house). However, the data speeds are notional, and would never be achievable in reality - there is significant techincal data to back this up on the net if you search btw. And unless your wiring is brand new and in the best possible condtion, you may have difficulites streaming HD content. I can just about get 10-12mbps with the so-called AV 200mbps units, and one of my main reasons for buying these was for streaming HD content to my living room from a PC which sadly I am unable to do.

So just be careful over the notional speeds quoted, depending on your requirements, although it goes without saying that your own mileage may vary of course. :)
#30
rockrat
as an electrician (though 10 years out of the game) even though you have seperate ring mains, the earthing for the house is all back to one single point, and its the earth cable that will be the main carrier of these signals i beleive.


Correct.. I have two rings.. one up one down and they work throughout my house.. 4 port upstairs and 1 plug from router and 1 spare.

They dont like extensions on extensions funnily enough :)

But they are excellent products.

p.s. i have the Netgear equivalent XE103 x2 and XE104 (i think thats the model) These will be the same as the ones OP sure of it.
#31
i got a 360 so shall i get 85mbps or 200mbp?
#32
ganon
i got a 360 so shall i get 85mbps or 200mbp?


If you don't mind spending the extra £15 then get the 200mbps ones.
#33
Axeman
Word of slight caution - These type of unit are very good (I have Zyxel PLA401s x 3 in my house). However, the data speeds are notional, and would never be achievable in reality - there is significant techincal data to back this up on the net if you search btw. And unless your wiring is brand new and in the best possible condtion, you may have difficulites streaming HD content. I can just about get 10-12mbps with the so-called AV 200mbps units, and one of my main reasons for buying these was for streaming HD content to my living room from a PC which sadly I am unable to do.

So just be careful over the notional speeds quoted, depending on your requirements, although it goes without saying that your own mileage may vary of course. :)


Whilst I take you point, to some degree; I'd suggest you have a problem with either your mains (earthing perhaps?) or one(or more) of the PLA401's. if you can't stream HD and you're only getting 10-12Mbit/s. I have four PLA401's & two PLA400's (across several rings) in a house with elderly wiring and at worst I achieve 62MBit/s TX & 75MBit/s RX when the network gets busy.:thumbsup:
#34
kwakwaversal
I'm not an electrician so I might need someone else to clarify this. My understanding is that in UK homes you might have two ring mains (ring circuits) so the signal can only be carried through one ring.
:

Your are both right and wrong. Most houses will have two ring mains - one upstairs and another downstairs. However, where you plug these things in doesn't matter as long as its the same side of your electricity meter.

Truth be known, it might even escape past your electricity meter but it doesn't matter because its encrypted. Some have wondered if it will work from one house to another in the same street - the answer is a definite maybe. You might get a connection to every third house since mains power is delivered to streets as 3-phase. Some houses are on one phase, others on another. After a short distance the signal will be degraded to such an extent that the plugs can't connect and the connection will be lost.
#35
eglons;3808226
Are you sure the router is wireless only, normally they have a single ethernet port too and that's all you need for these.

They dont affect any sockets, I've run one in an extension lead and unsed the other sockets in that and it works fine.

I understand people saying to go for the higher spec ones but to be honest what are you likely to run which needs more than 85Mbs?... by the time you have a reason the more expensive ones will be free with cornflakes!



backups, video streaming (from a home server) to name but two
#36
blacklion1725;3808400
I can only speak from experience but I have mine split across 3 ring mains (up, down, extension, and they work fine. I do have a reasonably new consumer unit. One thing they don't like is surge protectors though.


or gang sockets/plugs with other devices plugged in
#37
dangel;3808787
Where did you get wireless n that does 600mb/s? I thought the max limit was 300mb/s and nobody gets anywhere near that in the real world..

Go for 200mb/s homeplugs - it's silly not to for the small price difference. The Amazon extra value ones work very well for me.

lol, yes i meant up to 300mb/s...thought id corrected it oh well
#38
ValiantSaint;3808857
has anyone tried these on the Virgin 20mb BB service? What sorts of speed can you get out of them? Do you still get around 16-17mb?


using virgin's bb xl - i have the these netgear ones and they run at up to 38mb/s (rarely less than 20mb/s so id imagine if true then bb will be fine) according to the netgear config tool, but i havent done a proper test yet using a pc/laptop as they are only linked to a blu ray player at the mo.....(may test them with the xbox360 at some point too.....direct and if ok with a dlink 635 router config'd as a switch - though not sure as w/less works pretty well)
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/product.php?sku=658565&camp_id=ppc_Froogle_search
i should note that mine has been temporarily plugged into a 3 way plug (need to cut a bigger hole in a cabinet for it to fit) which im sure doesnt halp with the performamnce - tested in another socket and transmitting @ 120mb/s, receving at 66mb/s during a quick test
#39
crumpetman;3810196
If you don't mind spending the extra £15 then get the 200mbps ones.

worth it if you use the 360 as a media device to stream movies from a pc/server
#40
Scan are selling a similar one for £32.05 and alot of people get free delivery :thumbsup:

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