Fameart PC14 Charger with 4 x AA Sanyo Eneloop Batteries - £8.99 @ 7DayShop - HotUKDeals
We use cookie files to improve site functionality and personalisation. By continuing to use HotUKDeals, you accept our cookie and privacy policy.
Get the HotUKDeals app free at Google Play

Search Error

An error occurred when searching, please try again!

Login / Sign UpSubmit
203Expired

Fameart PC14 Charger with 4 x AA Sanyo Eneloop Batteries - £8.99 @ 7DayShop

£8.99 @ 7dayShop
This is a good deal for 4 of the most highly respected Sanyo NiMH batteries with plug-in charger included. Unlike ordinary NiMH batteries, Eneloops retain around 90% of their charge after 12months. T… Read More
Orville Avatar
8y, 3m agoFound 8 years, 3 months ago
This is a good deal for 4 of the most highly respected Sanyo NiMH batteries with plug-in charger included. Unlike ordinary NiMH batteries, Eneloops retain around 90% of their charge after 12months. They can also be recharged upto 1000 times.

For 4xAA Eneloops on their own (£6.99) see the following post.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/334065/sanyo-eneloop-pre-charged-rechargea/
More From 7dayShop:
×
Get the Hottest Deals Daily
Stay informed. Once a day, we'll send you the deals our members voted as the best.
Failed
Orville Avatar
8y, 3m agoFound 8 years, 3 months ago
Options

All Comments

(24) Jump to unreadPost a comment
Comments/page:
#1
I assume these are 2000mAh capacity....... and anyone know how long this charger would take to charge these ??
The discription is a bit vague at 5 to 20 hours.
#2
I just googled this charger and according to another site the charging times are...

AA 1800mAh 15 Hrs
AA 2300mAh 19.5 Hrs

This is a ridiculously long charge time so cold from me.
#3
As these hold their charge just charge em up and keep them for when you need them, does not matter how long it takes.
#4
Biker Jeff;4328459
I just googled this charger and according to another site the charging times are...

AA 1800mAh 15 Hrs
AA 2300mAh 19.5 Hrs

This is a ridiculously long charge time so cold from me.


I have to admit, since my faster charger went west about a year ago, I have been charging at nearly this rate, and have no problems - with the new Technology batteries, I am never in a rush to get them charged, as I always have others ready in the drawer, so 15 hours/overnight/next day isn't quite the problem it would have been when I only had the standard type! Although I do readily admit I am thinking of getting the Lidl charger later in the week (local store had no old pack ones at the weekend!)

As a spare charger it is not a lot more expensive than a set of Eneloop batteries on their own, it isn't as if that is a lot to pay.
2 Likes #5
The faster you charge any NiMH battery, the faster the cells will break down and reduce it's life. The truth is that you are much better off charging these batteries slowly (for over 5 hours). It will not cost any more charging them for 1hour, 5hours or 24hours because once they are full they will not accepts any more juice.

Ideally you want a charger that will provide between 200 and 500mA of charging current. The supplied charger (although cheap) seems to be within this range.
*Charging at 200mA will take approx 15hours
*Charging at 500mA will take approx 6hours
*Some fast chargers supply 1800mA so will take approx 1hour 40mins but will shorten the battery life considerably,

Figures are based on the battery requiring 1.5x input rated current (2000mAH) to fully charge from empty.
#6
can't understand why this deal did not get hotter :?
banned#7
Re charge rates etc. see link about charging NiMh - very interesting reading: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-11.htm

To quote: "Nickel-metal-hydride should be rapid charged rather than slow charged." and "It is difficult, if not impossible, to slow-charge a nickel-metal-hydride."
#8
vale of clwyd
can't understand why this deal did not get hotter :?
Because people read 2000mAh and think they are low powered compared 2700 or 2800mAh non-lsd batteries. The truth is that these will outlive any other rechargeable AA on the market.
#9
Thats not quite true.. NiMH SHOULD be recharged at 0.1C ideally.. so for these 2000mAh cells it should be 200ma for 16 hours ish.. These Fameart chargers are actually not too bad.. (the reasons for charging at higher current are because the charger should detect a drop in voltage when the battery is full.. the batteries way of telling the charger its full.. this doesnt always happen at low rates.. but the only cells ive had problems with this on are cheap nasty ones..)

Any good charger will do this.. Fast chargers are rubbish and will kill your batteries. Whilst there was an excuse for using a fast charger with normal NiMH cells (the fact you cant keep them charged so might need to charge them in a hurry) there is no reason too with these eneloops or any other new technology NiMH batteries. (GP Recyko's, eneloops, hybrios etc..)

A normal (good quality) NiMH 2300/2500/2700 will outperform these cells no problem at all if they have both just been charged (properly).. however after a month of being in a cupboard charged the eneloops will have held so much more charge that they are the better battery.

You really need a mixture of both types and a decent charger that can fast or slow charge (MAHA Powerex MH-C9000 I'd reccomend) then you can have the eneloops charged for suprise use and take the time to properly charge some high capacity NiMH standards if you have eneough notice of needing them. (energizer, powerex, panasonic and duracell supremes are all very good from my testing)


Has anyone ordered from 7day recently? I tried to buy some batteries on saturday from them and noticed they were having some security problems with the homepage.
#10
Thanks for the post been looking for some Eneloops and with a charger makes it a better deal!
#11
[url]www.CandlePowerForums.com[/url] is a great resource for battery information. There is no other battery rated as highly as these for mixed device usage. From remote controls to kids toys, torches and DSLR flashguns these just do the job.

Duracell and Uniross amongst others buy these off of Sanyo and re-brand them for their top of the range LSD batteries.
#12
Have just ordered with no problems on their security page, or atleast I didn't notice a problem
#13
ms_63
Have just ordered with no problems on their security page, or atleast I didn't notice a problem


Most of saturday (when i was trying to order this and some panasonic batteries) they had a black front page after some hack attempt or somethign like that on there.. made me wonder how secure it is.. more details here apparently: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=59038317
#14
I have used 7dayshop dozens of times without any issue. Credit Card payments are securely handled, although their frontpage appears to have been hacked at the weekend.
#15
Yeah Ive used them before.. I only noticed as I was trying to order something when it happned.. if all seems well i might go order what i was after anyways as I couldnt find the same things anywhere else..
banned#16
sambartle_theone
Thats not quite true.. NiMH SHOULD be recharged at 0.1C ideally.. so for these 2000mAh cells it should be 200ma for 16 hours ish.........You really need a mixture of both types and a decent charger that can fast or slow charge (MAHA Powerex MH-C9000 I'd reccomend)......


To say that very slow charging (0.1C) is better is just plain wrong - quoting from the "Powerex MH-C9000" charger manual you mention above as a most recommended charger:
"Choosing the right charging & discharging rate
Charging at a rate below 0.33C and above 1.0C is not recommended.
Charging too slow may prevent the charger from terminating correctly.
Charging too fast may damage the battery."

This is because to quote from another good web site "Nickel-metal-hydride chargers require more complex electronics than nickel-cadmium systems. To begin with, nickel-metal-hydride produces a very small voltage drop at full charge and the NDV (negative delta V) is almost non-existent at charge rates below 0.5C and elevated temperatures. Aging and degenerating cell match diminish the already minute voltage delta further. This makes full charge detection difficult....It is difficult, if not impossible, to slow-charge a nickel-metal-hydride. At a C rate of 0.1-0.3C, the voltage and temperature profiles fail to exhibit defined characteristics to measure the full charge state accurately and the charger must rely on a timer. Harmful overcharge can occur if a partially or fully charged battery is charged with a fixed timer."
#17
justinh;4396655
Charging too slow may prevent the charger from terminating correctly.
But if it's less than 0.1C then you don't need to terminate charging anyway, do you? Just look at the millions of devices in use (the DECT phone springs to mind) which charge continuously. The batteries don't last for ever, but neither do they die quickly.
#18
Anyone know if these would be a good choice for LED bike lights? Im toying between these or a shedload of cheap ones from Poundland.
1 Like #19
I'd say they would be overkill for bike lights as (assuming you use them regularly) you are likely to need to recharge them frequently enough that the extra shelf life won't be noticeable.

But then I don't know what the Poundland ones are like...
#20
pibpob
I'd say they would be overkill for bike lights as (assuming you use them regularly) you are likely to need to recharge them frequently enough that the extra shelf life won't be noticeable.

But then I don't know what the Poundland ones are like...


Cheers, i think i will go with the cheap ones
#21
Works out to be a £2 charger. It would be absurd to compare this to a £50 high end battery, and chances are, even a cheapie fast charger is going to cost more than that. I bought this since I needed a charger, but mainly use low drain stuff (where Eneloop shines) so it doesn't matter that much how long it takes. And even if it cuts my battery charge cycles in half (doubt it would be that drastic), 500 charges will still last a pretty long time for remotes and such.

(If I was a heavy battery user, I would no doubt go for a Maha C-9000, but for my purposes, this seems like a good deal. I'll let ye all know if it explodes or something though!).
#22
hello all,

I got this charger on Friday and had it plugged in since trying to charge the Eneloops since the red lights are on. Its now been over two days. Any Idea how long it is supposed to take to charge these batteries.

Are the lights supposed to go out to indicate fully charged?

Thanks.
#23
Thanks to everyone for posting their comments. They were very helpful. All I can say is that 20 hours to charge a battery is far too long.
#24
frankfurrter
Thanks to everyone for posting their comments. They were very helpful. All I can say is that 20 hours to charge a battery is far too long.


Similarly, reviving a dead thread, 1 year and 10 months since it's last posting is also FAR too long! :-(

Post a Comment

You don't need an account to leave a comment. Just enter your email address. We'll keep it private.

...OR log in with your social account

...OR comment using your social account

Top of Page
Thanks for your comment! Keep it up!
We just need to have a quick look and it will be live soon.
The community is happy to hear your opinion! Keep contributing!