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FINAL MAYhem - Hitatchi Deskstar 2TB HDD 3.5' - £49.98 @ Ebuyer

£49.98 @ Ebuyer
Free Postage :) FUTURE PROOF YOUR PC NOW.....SATA-III Drives are backward compatable to SATA-II This Deskstar 5K3000 hard drive provides 2TB capacity and features innovative CoolSpin technology…
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FUTURE PROOF YOUR PC NOW.....SATA-III Drives are backward compatable to SATA-II
This Deskstar 5K3000 hard drive provides 2TB capacity and features innovative CoolSpin technology to deliver a greater level of power efficiency and quiet operation for energy-conscious, environmentally-friendly computers.

Key to CoolSpin technology is an optimization of motor speed to provide an ideal balance of performance, power utilization an acoustics. The CoolSpin technology, along with other Hitachi power management technique gives the Deskstar 5K3000 its 29% power savings over the Deskstar 7K3000.

This 2TB is the first Hitachi CoolSpin hard drive with a 6Gb/s SATA interface. With low power, high capacity and cool operation, the 3.5-inch Deskstar 5K3000 allows manufacturers to leverage the benefits of the latest components and operating systems to deliver more eco-friendly systems.

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#1
when u click on buy it goes in as £50, and not £49.99

I was hoping for the 7200 rpm drive.
#2
I do belive if you spend £50 its free delivery too. So find something cheap and add it to your basket :)

Hope this helps someone out.
#3
Ohh yeah, its been changed. That means free delivery i do believe then :)
#4
Its sata 3 - so I dunno whether ordinary sata I and II would be OK with it - sure someone will know of course
#5
Actually, Ive got free delivery over 5 days (well, going by eBuyers previous with me, it'll be 10) without buying anything else
#6
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=HDS5C3020ALA632&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2624181891798124318&sa=X&ei=gwPNTfTrAofEvQPQ2L2ZCg&ved=0CFAQ9AIwAA&os=reviews&biw=1260&bih=613

yes all drives fail .. I would like to know if anyone here already has one and how they compare with WD or Sammy ? I have 2 x1.5 TBsSammys and they have been great .. but have an empty ReadyNAS and wanted to fill with at least one drive now for extra backup .. currently waiting for WD or Sammy but could consider this drive ..

(yes I know they used to be unreliable but maybe not now).



Edited By: jomppa on May 13, 2011 11:19
#7
It's showing £49.98 with free delivery for me now. Great price - HOT.
#8
Ive had a few of these drives myself and have always been good for me, Good if your looking for abit of extra space in your PC without spending loads.
It is 5900rpm, but still a good reliable drive in my opinon.
#9
Jackarinus
Ive had a few of these drives myself and have always been good for me, Good if your looking for abit of extra space in your PC without spending loads.
It is 5900rpm, but still a good reliable drive in my opinon.

thanks .. considering this now .. must be cheapest 2tb to date :-)
#10
jomppa
Jackarinus
Ive had a few of these drives myself and have always been good for me, Good if your looking for abit of extra space in your PC without spending loads.
It is 5900rpm, but still a good reliable drive in my opinon.


thanks .. considering this now .. must be cheapest 2tb to date :-)


I dont think ive every seen a 2tb drive cheaper then this before :)
#11
It comes out very well in comparison to the WD Green and Samsung F4 in performance tests; but it's hard to judge if there are any real reliability issues we ought be concerned with.

http://www.digitalversus.com/hitachi-deskstar-5k3000-2-tb-p498_10454_65.html
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1036785852
#12
Thanks ordered!
#13
2 per customer at this price - HOT
#14
ebuyer
Requirement: Start-up (W, peak, max) = 1.2 (+5V) & 2.0 (+12V)

Wish all components were that open about their power requirements. It appears they don't know what they are talking about though. If those figures are Watts (W) then that's 0.24A on the 5V and 0.16 on the 12V. As the figure is at startup it is likely that they meant to say
Start-up (A) = 1.2 (5V) 2 (12V)


A 30W draw is not bad for starting up but gives no indication as to the continuous power consumption of the drive. Hot for price, shame about marketing literature.

As a comparison my external 3.5" hdd takes max 2A at 12V = 24W.
#15
i kinda want this, and maybe try raid 0 or 1 (have a 500gb hdd and a 1.5tb atm). but the annoyance is ill probably have to get cable adapters and a bigger case as a knock on purchase (since my coolermaster glite case/coolermaster psu arent the best for multiple components)
#16
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?
#17
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?


If you could buy one a 1TB ssd for £50 then yes you would? But you cant.
I think ebuyer just means as obviously all software/OS is getting more Memory hungry.

I just copy and pasted there description :)
1 Like #18
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?

It's all about storage with these kinds of drives.
#19
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?

But you'd usually have at least 2 bays in your PC so 1 for SSD and 1 for storage.

Great Price! I just bought a 2-bay USB 3.0 enclosure though and I think these drives would be too slow to make the best of USB 3.0 speeds.

Voted hot still.

Edited By: wastedcolumbo on May 13, 2011 12:25: Added stuff
#20
remyxx87
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?
It's all about storage with these kinds of drives.
And backup!
#21
gary_rip
And backup!


Backup... to the football league with any luck ;)
#22
zaphodbb
ebuyer
Requirement: Start-up (W, peak, max) = 1.2 (+5V) & 2.0 (+12V)

Wish all components were that open about their power requirements. It appears they don't know what they are talking about though. If those figures are Watts (W) then that's 0.24A on the 5V and 0.16 on the 12V. As the figure is at startup it is likely that they meant to say
Start-up (A) = 1.2 (5V) 2 (12V)


A 30W draw is not bad for starting up but gives no indication as to the continuous power consumption of the drive. Hot for price, shame about marketing literature.

As a comparison my external 3.5" hdd takes max 2A at 12V = 24W.


Not strictly true; your external drive has a 24W PSU but will be able to provide the (very, very short term) increase in power for motor spin-up due to the energy stored in the PSU capacitor, its no indication of actual power draw. Hitachi's figures suggest a 4.4W idle (and from similar drives its fair to assume a 6-8W peak load) consumption. Not the best figures for a 5900 spin-speed drive, but not bad and noticably less heat production than most 7200rpm drives of the same platter count.

NB As you recognise, it is a typo on the Hitachi website that ebuyer have copied across, it should say A instead of W as can be seen in the datasheet.


Edited By: jah128 on May 13, 2011 12:31
#23
Jackarinus
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?


If you could buy one a 1TB ssd for £50 then yes you would? But you cant.
I think ebuyer just means as obviously all software/OS is getting more Memory hungry.

I just copy and pasted there description :)


Say you luck out and get 50Gb of SSD for £50. Apart from being smaller and quieter there really is little other advantage. The SSD wears out and as for being solid-state the amount of head movement required to access 50Gb on a 2TB hdd is negligible 0.25% of full range, so seek times will be small and I'd hazard a guess that hdd's still write much more quickly than SSD.
#24
If i was buying a SSD all i would use it for is my OS to speed up my boot times, and a few Programmes which are used regularry to make them boot quicker too.

Like someone has already said, this kind of drive is for storage and backup mainly, SSD's are still extremely exspensive for the amount of memory you get, it will be a while before the average PC user is using them for mass backing up and storage.
#25
jah128
Not strictly true; your external drive has a 24W PSU but will be able to provide the (very, very short term) increase in power for motor spin-up due to the energy stored in the PSU capacitor, its no indication of actual power draw. Hitachi's figures suggest a 4.4W idle (and from similar drives its fair to assume a 6-8W peak load) consumption.


That's prolly where the power factor comes into play, I didn't appreciate the infinitesimal time that peak current is required for. I guess they are correct to be quoting current in that case average power over one second would differ vastly to that when the capacitor is initially discharging.

Without a scope I cannot prove this theory either way, there's one for hukd.
#26
zaphodbb
Jackarinus
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?


If you could buy one a 1TB ssd for £50 then yes you would? But you cant.
I think ebuyer just means as obviously all software/OS is getting more Memory hungry.

I just copy and pasted there description :)


Say you luck out and get 50Gb of SSD for £50. Apart from being smaller and quieter there really is little other advantage. The SSD wears out and as for being solid-state the amount of head movement required to access 50Gb on a 2TB hdd is negligible 0.25% of full range, so seek times will be small and I'd hazard a guess that hdd's still write much more quickly than SSD.


You would be wrong on nearly all accounts then. The seek time is largely dictated not by the head-movement time but by the fact that you have to wait for upto an entire spin for each access; on a 5900rpm drive this is over 10ms. A SSD will access the required data in (generally well under) 0.1mS; this is the primary reason why a hard drive can access less than 100 records in a second, whilst a decent (ie Sandforce or Intel controller) SSD can manage up to 50,000. That makes a phenomenal difference in many day-to-day tasks, far greater than any other upgrade that is generally available.

Your write speed guess is also wrong; even modest Sandforce based drives can write large-writes at close to double the speed of a fast HDD, latest generations and larger SSDs can push upwards of 500MB/s compared, saturating the SATA-3 bus, whilst hard drives rarely saturate the original SATA bus.

They wear out yes, but with 22-32nm flash and modern controllers with wear-levelling mechanisms the mathematics suggests a drive life in excess of 5 years in all but the rarest usage models, with typically desktop use lasting well beyond the realistic use of the drive (10years+).
#27
Good grief you'd think they'd get a bit more storage into a drive that needs a 3 and a half foot slot.

{All the best of luck next year Luton but I reckon most neutrals are rooting for AFC this time}
#28
hot deal! orderd! thanks!
#29
CoenFan
Good grief you'd think they'd get a bit more storage into a drive that needs a 3 and a half foot slot.

{All the best of luck next year Luton but I reckon most neutrals are rooting for AFC this time}


I think were going to do them 0-0 draw agains them, and a 3-0 win this season, Failed to score against us.

COYH!!
#30
jah128
You would be wrong on nearly all accounts then. The seek time is largely dictated not by the head-movement time but by the fact that you have to wait for upto an entire spin for each access; on a 5900rpm drive this is over 10ms.

That was taken as read, obviously there will be overheads in a drive costing 0.25% per Gb of yours.

Which I would hope can access a good deal faster given its hard wiring.

To have to state all this explicitly becomes rather a chore. I think I'll stick to simpler "good"/"bad" adjectives and "buy"/"price" nouns in future

jah128
...life in excess of 5 years in all but the rarest usage models, with typically desktop use lasting well beyond the realistic use of the drive (10years+).


Last time I checked data retention is not promoted above 10 years. I know quite a few early adopters of SSD netbooks whose drives didn't last 3 years.

My experience is limited to only those cheap old varieties of internal SSD's (of 45nm vintage) but recent USB flash drives come nowhere near to the spead of USB flash drives (eg 4MBPS write 20MBPS read) so you can understand the confusion of typical users who see these 4,000% more expensive flash (SSD) drives and think, "what's the point?"
#31
jah128
You would be wrong on nearly all accounts then.


I prefered your first introduction

jah128
Not strictly true


Better way to spark polite debate.
1 Like #32
zaphodbb
Que more nit-picking disparaging remarks from jah128...


jah128 makes some good points - SSD's even the cheaper ones are stupendously quick when it comes to random reads, thus the performance increase from SSD are enormous.

Price/performance wise, they are only great for OS only drives.

wastedcolumbo
hugekebab
If you wanted to future proof your PC, wouldn't you buy an SSD?

But you'd usually have at least 2 bays in your PC so 1 for SSD and 1 for storage.

Great Price! I just bought a 2-bay USB 3.0 enclosure though and I think these drives would be too slow to make the best of USB 3.0 speeds.

Voted hot still.


No, this drive would easily saturate USB 2.0 speeds, USB 3 or esata would have been the better option - even though this is a slower drive at 5900rpm it can still read/write at 130mb/s (see here).
1 Like #33
Got one of these last week when they were the same price from Dixons (with voucher code).
Successfully upgraded my QNAP NAS from 1TB to 2TB - working fine so far.
#34
Jackarinus
Ive had a few of these drives myself and have always been good for me, Good if your looking for abit of extra space in your PC without spending loads.
It is 5900rpm, but still a good reliable drive in my opinon.
Do your ones show the accurate buffer memory of 32mb?

I got one a few days ago and mine is showing 26mb buffer memory instead of 32mb (via various software including Hitachi's DST). Not fussed about the memory size itself, but if it's a fault, i'm thinking it'll cause bigger problems later on.
#35
Not really up to speed with my hard drive technology but..

Would these drives fit in here?
http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/network-storage/LG-network-attached-storage-N2B1DD2.jsp
#36
JoeUK
Not really up to speed with my hard drive technology but..

Would these drives fit in here?
http://www.lg.com/us/computer-products/network-storage/LG-network-attached-storage-N2B1DD2.jsp


Yes.
#37
harry66
Got one of these last week when they were the same price from Dixons (with voucher code).
Successfully upgraded my QNAP NAS from 1TB to 2TB - working fine so far.
Were a little cheaper after 3% cashback!!
banned#38
Are the read/write times on this drive faster then say an F4 because its SATA III or the higher 5900rpm?
2 Likes #39
I did some tests on mine and posted in the previous thread (my PC is set up as AHCI):

http://i.imgur.com/MNXYx.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ulQQy.png

http://i.imgur.com/LkbQi.png

It's a very quiet drive, much quieter than my HD154UI, similar to the HD103SJ (set on quiet via AAM), just as well as you can't modify AAM settings on the Hitachi.

512 byte sector instead of 4096, which is a positive as you don't have to tinker about with settings. Runs hotter than the HD154UI, more in tune with the HD103SJ.

Just a pity mine is showing the wrong buffer memory size. Worried it might cause further problems in the future. If Dixons/Hitachi respond quick enough, depending on what their answer is and whether they tell me to return it, i might get another one from Ebuyer.


For anyone wondering how to check buffer memory and various other tests, you use Hitachi's tool: http://www.hitachigst.com/support/downloads/#DFT burn the iso on a cd and boot from that instead of Windows. If you select "utilities --> drive info" then it'll tell you what size buffer you have and you can run other drive fitness tests: http://i.imgur.com/LI1QC.jpg

CrystalDiskInfo (free) also shows this info and other stuff but via Windows:Link


Edited By: Xad on May 13, 2011 16:48: .
#40
Might wanna add some other stuff to Ebuyer order also...

1 x Large Paperclips - Box of 100
245973
£0.11

1 x HB Pencil with eraser tip - Box of 12
245514
£0.21

To take advantage of the free shipping.

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