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Go to the Dell's Large Business website. Remove ALL options, that server has no CDROM, monitor, floppy, keyboard, OS etc. You get two Quad Core E5310 which are based on the Clovertown core with 16MB cache in all. You will probably want to beef it up with more memory and storage capacity... Oh, and the price, a cool £915+VAT. Did I mention that you can get 4.5% off using Quidco CB?

DELL PowerEdge SC1430

Quad Core Intel® Xeon® E5310, 2x4MB Cache, 1.6GHz, 1066MHZ FSB 79917 [210-17255][350-10195] 1
Additional Processor:
Quad Core Intel® Xeon® E5310, 2x4MB Cache, 1.6GHz, 1066MHZ FSB 79924 [374-11247] 2
No Warranty Upgrade 73166 [680-11460] 30
512MB FB 533MHz Memory (2x256MB single rank DIMMs) 71208 [370-12518] 3
SC - No Operating System. 8014 [611-10037] 285
SC - No Operating System. 8014 [611-10037] 286
Dell Server Assistant for PowerEdge SC Servers CD Kit 71263 80GB 7,200rpm 3.5inch SATA hard drive 73372 [400-12938] 668
C1 Motherboard SATA, 1-2 Hard drives 71229 [780-10768] 35
English - Documentation and UK/Ireland Power Cord 71190 [340-13802] 21
PowerEdge Order - United Kingdom 32396 [800-10511] 111
Base Warranty 73165 [688-10579][688-10580] 29
You have chosen not to take the Dell PowerEdge installation service 73283 [683-11870] 32
No Floppy Drive Option 71221 [385-10446] 10
No Monitor Required 6040 [480-11024] 5
No Keyboard Required 7328 [580-11029] 4
No Factory Installed Mouse 71303 [570-10291] 12
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#1
hmm, but will it have enough bang to run Office 2007 ;-)

seriously, this does sound cheap, maybe i could swap it for my girlfriend -- only a few previous owners, no scrub that, there are probly loads of previous owners.... sorry, i'll shut up now. i just want this beast
#2
heh who wouldn't?
pretty good price too considering the cost of the quad core processor oem is around 400.
tis only 8 1.6ghz processors though :P
I like the 8 2.66's with 64 gig ddr2.. only around 50k with all mod cons.
dt_matthews
hmm, but will it have enough bang to run Office 2007 ;-)

seriously, this does sound cheap, maybe i could swap it for my girlfriend -- only a few previous owners, no scrub that, there are probly loads of previous owners.... sorry, i'll shut up now. i just want this beast
#3
Hmm, sounds nice. Might uninstall windows and install Linux. Ubuntu or Debian server editions, then start my own ISP. :giggle:
#4
What support does this have for graphics card?

Is it possible to run this as a super powerful home pc with normal windows?
#5
Thanks for this :) Link should now point straight to the deal ;-)
#6
scottg
What support does this have for graphics card?

Is it possible to run this as a super powerful home pc with normal windows?


I don't think any version of XP supports more than 2 processors, so - and I'm not an expert so this is a "i.m.o") you'll have two processors sat there doing nothing.

Install Windows Server 2003 and you're in business, but I'd imagine the odds are you won't be able to run games very well on that - and I think that the software you run has to be configurable for multiple processors, so chances are you'll not be utilising the full ooomph of the system anyway.

If the two processor option is a good deal, then I'd say go for it. But you can get dual-processor motherboards from Ebuyer and the like if you want to do that. Personally, I've found chucking memory and better graphics cards are the best way to speed up games - my system was a beast when it was built, but for everything but games...it was really no difference to an old standard pc.
#7
ourdave
I don't think any version of XP supports more than 2 processors, so - and I'm not an expert so this is a "i.m.o") you'll have two processors sat there doing nothing.


To clarify Windows XP home will support one physical socket, so you'll need windows XP professional version which supports upto two physical sockets. If you're going with Vista (Microsoft's newest operating system released soon) you'll need the Vista Ultimate Edition, the lesser versions will only support one physical core....

...or just install Linux :thumbsup:

ourdave
you won't be able to run games very well on that.


Nope as the graphics capability of this machine is poor. It is a superb render farm though but will need plenty more ram. If you buy a decent graphics card with this you'll have a beast of a games machine.
#8
scottg
What support does this have for graphics card?

Is it possible to run this as a super powerful home pc with normal windows?

The PowerEdge SC1430 has the following expansion slots:

2 x PCI Express slots (one x8, one x4)
2 x 64-bit/100MHz PCI-X slots
1 x 32-bit/33MHz PCI slot

They're all full height and half length. High-end consumer graphics hardware needs a lot of room - especially NVIDIA's 8xxx range - together with an x16 PCI-E slot, so the SC1430 is simply no good if you plan to play games.

Even a mainstream card like the GeForce 7600 GT needs x16 :-(
#9
Nice deal, if I hadn't been blowing my money on camera gear I would have been very tempted by this - I'd love to play with an eight way system to see what sort of speed it could crunch through a parallel genetic algorithms system.

Even aside the graphics card issues, I don't think the additional cores and lower clockspeed would be good for gaming at least not for a while anyway.

John
#10
Johnmcl7
...I'd love to play with an eight way system to see what sort of speed it could crunch through a parallel genetic algorithms system....


hmm, John you sound far too clever but I would imagine that is exactly what this machine would eat for breakfast ;-) go on, you know you want one...
#11
Are these 8-core or quadcore?
#12
ghost101
Are these 8-core or quadcore?


They are quad core, but the Xeon was built for dual processor capabilities. So this holds two quad core processors on the same motherboard making it 8 core.

Trust me mate, if you don't know what this is stay well clear as it will honestly be no good to the general public for everyday/gaming use.

On paper it sounds awesome, and on paper it really is, but only for what it is designed for and that is as a server, or it could handle cad quite well too with a nice qaud card in there. (Again no good for gaming).

EDIT:
I see what your getting at mow mate. I think the description is wrong. It states 2x4mb cache (per processor), which I really think it should be 4x2mb cache becasue each 'E5310' holds 8mb cache divided by 4 cores resulting in 4x2mb cache.

Sorry for jumping the gun earlier. :)

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