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1 Like #1
Laptop, TV or £100. Also £110 cash back on quido. Makes this nearly free for the year. But I think it's been out a while.
1 Like #2
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.

Edited By: far2easy2kill on Sep 02, 2016 18:08: Spelling mistakes!
2 Likes #3
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.

this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.

now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
#4
Sky? Never again. I was with them from the early BSB days with square aerials! I contacted Sky to end the contract as I was mainly watching Freeview content. After several attempts I had to resort to a Solicitors letter. So my advise, is think long and hard signing a contract.
#5
Tullymoregardens162
Sky? Never again. I was with them from the early BSB days with square aerials! I contacted Sky to end the contract as I was mainly watching Freeview content. After several attempts I had to resort to a Solicitors letter. So my advise, is think long and hard signing a contract.

seems odd. I have cancelled with sky three times over the years. write to them and cancel the direct debit. easy.
#6
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.

this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.

now which one is it ???? errrrrrm


Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
2 Likes #7
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
if you "work in IT" fix your own laptops..
2 Likes #8
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.

funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.

why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.

as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.

so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.

so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.
1 Like #9
@ Dataload

There is different elements of IT you know, network engineer, security manager etc etc etc. Your comment is like saying Lewis Hamilton should fix his own car "because he works in f1"

Pathetic.

Edited By: shaunmorgan3994881 on Sep 03, 2016 06:45: tidied.
1 Like #10
shaunmorgan3994881
@ Dataload
There is different elements of IT you know, network engineer, security manager etc etc etc. Your comment is like saying Lewis Hamilton should fix his own car "because he works in f1"
Pathetic.
Completely out of context. F2e2k gave the impression they worked in client/server IT. In which case they'd be used to taking devices apart.
I work in IT, application design and support, guess what I can take a laptop apart. Also a Network engineer for example will at times have to replace PSUs, fans, interface cards in enterprise switches etc. IT is a broad term but the skills sets have an over lap.
I work with a developer who is very hardware orientated, whereas in the same dept there are some who could barely open the lid.
#11
dataload
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
if you "work in IT" fix your own laptops..


I do on a regular basis but its not particularly easy to fix a mainboard when they dont supply them out. I could buy second hand and fix but the same issue can apply. I doubt many users on here (upon which my review is based) have the technical ability to rip apart an entire laptop and replace a part that isnt effectively user replaceable but id love to be proved wrong.
#12
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.

funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.

why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.

as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.

so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.

so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.


Unfortunately schools dont share the same 3 year expiry on machines, tends to be five unless they go down the lines of replacing with poor equipment every year or two. The anniversary update for windows is not preinstalled on any machines at the moment as far as im aware, certainly the new machines I have purchased over the summer dont have it yet, it has to be installed manually. (Just to clarify as well, these are 6th gen core laptops, not old stock as im sure that would be jumped on) While I do have an issue with data caps, it tends to be because a lot of non it people dont understand how much data is used for certain things. They sign into cheap contracts thinking they have deal of the century or get lured in by a 200 pound laptop they will end up paying for somewhere down the line, then they do things that are advertised as easy and the new way to use the web, then get caught out by excess charges. If you stream now tv, netflix, amazon prime, spotify, apple music, whatever other services you can think of, I think 12gb a month is not a good deal, hence the cold vote. My experience with Lenovo has been of poor workmanship compared to other brands. 6 lenovo laptops bought, 6 damaged or failed. 110 HP proBook laptops bought, 108 still working outside of extended warranties. The other two were dropped, screens smashed and not worth repairing.

The whole purpose of this site is for users to inform if they feel it is a good deal or not based on their personal experience. I am at a loss to understand the negativity in this post. I have no issue with Sky, used them in the past, was happy with them, i havent jumped on here and had a go at everyone who has had an issue with them and wouldnt expect to. I said at the end of my first post that other offers would be preferrable to this, not to dismiss the offer completely. Wasnt that the point. Would you be happy if an elderly relative of yours signed up to a deal where they were charged excess fees every month because they wanted to use something they thought they could. Its a deal to lure people who dont understand it, like the free xbox when you get a movile from other companies. You will pay for it in the end. I prefer to try and inform people of the effects. I overexaggerated the windows updates, but the point was to prove that it is quite easy to go over the limits. A point that seems to be missed by the comments on here.

Next time i wont bother to comment, just not worth the aggro.
#13
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap

Seriously? I use that in a day!
#14
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.

funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.

why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.

as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.

so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.

so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.


Just a final note, you have a good deal with sky and vodafone, good for you, not anywhere the same type of deal as this offer is trying to lure in. Businesses sell their machines to recoup money where possible, schools have a lot more red tape trying to do this, especially as council run. Windows 10 home does not give a chance to defer updates, it installs them automatically. This can use a considerable amount of data that some people may not be aware of. Also, sky store purchases use your data that counts towards your monthly cap. This laptop will no doubt have windows 10 home and a 1 year warranty. After that you are on your own. Everyone has different experiences and
i hope that everyone who does eventually plump for a deal like this gets many happy years worth of use out of sky and the laptop, i just wouldnt recommend this deal to anyone.
#15
Halloway
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap

Seriously? I use that in a day!


Thank you! Thats part of the point I was trying to get across. For the uninitiated it sounds like a lot but it really isnt.
#16
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.



far2easy2kill
dataload
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
if you "work in IT" fix your own laptops..
I do on a regular basis but its not particularly easy to fix a mainboard when they dont supply them out. I could buy second hand and fix but the same issue can apply. I doubt many users on here (upon which my review is based) have the technical ability to rip apart an entire laptop and replace a part that isnt effectively user replaceable but id love to be proved wrong.


far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.
why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.
as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.
so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.
so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.
Just a final note, you have a good deal with sky and vodafone, good for you, not anywhere the same type of deal as this offer is trying to lure in. Businesses sell their machines to recoup money where possible, schools have a lot more red tape trying to do this, especially as council run. Windows 10 home does not give a chance to defer updates, it installs them automatically. This can use a considerable amount of data that some people may not be aware of. Also, sky store purchases use your data that counts towards your monthly cap. This laptop will no doubt have windows 10 home and a 1 year warranty. After that you are on your own. Everyone has different experiences and
i hope that everyone who does eventually plump for a deal like this gets many happy years worth of use out of sky and the laptop, i just wouldnt recommend this deal to anyone.
at least we know your keyboard is working fine
#17
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.
why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.
as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.
so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.
so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.
Just a final note, you have a good deal with sky and vodafone, good for you, not anywhere the same type of deal as this offer is trying to lure in. Businesses sell their machines to recoup money where possible, schools have a lot more red tape trying to do this, especially as council run. Windows 10 home does not give a chance to defer updates, it installs them automatically. This can use a considerable amount of data that some people may not be aware of. Also, sky store purchases use your data that counts towards your monthly cap. This laptop will no doubt have windows 10 home and a 1 year warranty. After that you are on your own. Everyone has different experiences and
i hope that everyone who does eventually plump for a deal like this gets many happy years worth of use out of sky and the laptop, i just wouldnt recommend this deal to anyone.


I added details of my current deals as you said
You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times?
.

This seemed to be suggesting that because I leave sky at times they aren't a good service.

The argument seems to have degenerated into your own ability to repair machines. A friend of mine had his Lenovo T410 repaired (board replaced) by a private company after a drinks spillage. They were reasonable, prompt and not related to Lenovo at all. Once out of g'tee I really don't understand why you would expect to use any manufacturer for repairs that you cannot do yourself.

However, the whole point was that your original comments were both off topic and inaccurate. btw, your school seems to be harder on machines than the US Army as they use Lenovo in the field.

Edited By: jonnithomas on Sep 03, 2016 17:36
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jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.
why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.
as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.
so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.
so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.
Just a final note, you have a good deal with sky and vodafone, good for you, not anywhere the same type of deal as this offer is trying to lure in. Businesses sell their machines to recoup money where possible, schools have a lot more red tape trying to do this, especially as council run. Windows 10 home does not give a chance to defer updates, it installs them automatically. This can use a considerable amount of data that some people may not be aware of. Also, sky store purchases use your data that counts towards your monthly cap. This laptop will no doubt have windows 10 home and a 1 year warranty. After that you are on your own. Everyone has different experiences and
i hope that everyone who does eventually plump for a deal like this gets many happy years worth of use out of sky and the laptop, i just wouldnt recommend this deal to anyone.


I added details of my current deals as you said
You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times?
.

This seemed to be suggesting that because I leave sky at times they aren't a good service.

The argument seems to have degenerated into your own ability to repair machines. A friend of mine had his Lenovo T410 repaired (board replaced) by a private company after a drinks spillage. They were reasonable, prompt and not related to Lenovo at all. Once out of g'tee I really don't understand why you would expect to use any manufacturer for repairs that you cannot do yourself.

However, the whole point was that your original comments were both off topic and inaccurate. btw, your school seems to be harder on machines than the US Army as they use Lenovo in the field.


Again it comes down to personal experience. Im sure the US army loves their Lenovo machines, but im pretty sure they didnt get them in a promo offer from Sky... They will have business machines and business warranties. I have perfect confidence in repairing any type of machine, but does a normal consumer? We have had both lenovo desktops and laptops (m90z aio and edge e520 laptops) the m90z were on the whole reliable but the laptops were not. I have already agreed that the windows install was an overstatement but it was designed to make a point that this deals data limit wasnt great. My latest security updates for windows 10 and office came to just over a gig. Normal consumers dont get the choice to defer them unfortunately. As for an argument, there was never meant to be one. Different people have different experiences. I like sky, others dont, i dont particularly like lenovo anymore, you may love them, thats why there is choice available but with that choice comes different build quality and parts. The t410 is a good laptop, i dont think the current consumer lenovo laptops ive seen have anywhere near as good a build quality or the ease of replacement parts available. But i digress. This site is about whether a deal is hot or cold. As i only had one vote and it is currently -70, it seems the majority think its cold, regardless of their technical ability.
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far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
funny world isn't it ? I worked in it for 30 years including as technical design manager for a multinational.
why would you want lenovo to fix a machine that was out of g'tee ? it's value would be negligible after three years business use so we simply bought new machines after three years. if you decide not to scrap it then any it shop can fix them if you aren't happy with lenovo charges.
as for sky they do good deals for new customers so I shop around and leave and go back a year or two later. currently my sky unlimited fibre and phone cost me £20 per month in total excluding calls. my calls are unlimited with vodafone for £8.50 a month.
so you don't like download limits then simply say that. don't quote a one off download of windows 10 as a major reason not to have a limited account. either that or give a reason why one would download windows 10 every month. besides as the machine is preloaded with the OS it really is cow detritus to use that as part of your diatribe.
so basically your reasoning was based upon Lenovo repair costs that are free as the machine is new and Lenovo costs on old machines when anyone can fix them so you don't need to use them anyway. then we have download costs on an OS which is already installed.
Just a final note, you have a good deal with sky and vodafone, good for you, not anywhere the same type of deal as this offer is trying to lure in. Businesses sell their machines to recoup money where possible, schools have a lot more red tape trying to do this, especially as council run. Windows 10 home does not give a chance to defer updates, it installs them automatically. This can use a considerable amount of data that some people may not be aware of. Also, sky store purchases use your data that counts towards your monthly cap. This laptop will no doubt have windows 10 home and a 1 year warranty. After that you are on your own. Everyone has different experiences and
i hope that everyone who does eventually plump for a deal like this gets many happy years worth of use out of sky and the laptop, i just wouldnt recommend this deal to anyone.
I added details of my current deals as you said
You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times?
.
This seemed to be suggesting that because I leave sky at times they aren't a good service.
The argument seems to have degenerated into your own ability to repair machines. A friend of mine had his Lenovo T410 repaired (board replaced) by a private company after a drinks spillage. They were reasonable, prompt and not related to Lenovo at all. Once out of g'tee I really don't understand why you would expect to use any manufacturer for repairs that you cannot do yourself.
However, the whole point was that your original comments were both off topic and inaccurate. btw, your school seems to be harder on machines than the US Army as they use Lenovo in the field.
Again it comes down to personal experience. Im sure the US army loves their Lenovo machines, but im pretty sure they didnt get them in a promo offer from Sky... They will have business machines and business warranties. I have perfect confidence in repairing any type of machine, but does a normal consumer? We have had both lenovo desktops and laptops (m90z aio and edge e520 laptops) the m90z were on the whole reliable but the laptops were not. I have already agreed that the windows install was an overstatement but it was designed to make a point that this deals data limit wasnt great. My latest security updates for windows 10 and office came to just over a gig. Normal consumers dont get the choice to defer them unfortunately. As for an argument, there was never meant to be one. Different people have different experiences. I like sky, others dont, i dont particularly like lenovo anymore, you may love them, thats why there is choice available but with that choice comes different build quality and parts. The t410 is a good laptop, i dont think the current consumer lenovo laptops ive seen have anywhere near as good a build quality or the ease of replacement parts available. But i digress. This site is about whether a deal is hot or cold. As i only had one vote and it is currently -70, it seems the majority think its cold, regardless of their technical ability.


of course the T410 is a better build quality than a consumer laptop. It is a Thinkpad i.e. a business oriented laptop. I can assure you that the latest Thinkpad have just as good build quality to earlier Thinkpad. I have one. I mentioned the T410 as it was an example of how it is quite possible to get an old Lenovo laptop repaired at a reasonable price. You simply don't get it repaired by Lenovo.

As for reliability. Do you really think your experience of laptop use in a school will be in anyway similar to someone using their own laptop in a domestic environment ? of course the desktops were reliable. they weren't being abused.

so, as I say, your maintenance/repair issue was very much a red herring. your comment about download limits could have been better explained as it is perfectly adequate for someone simply doing emails, word documents, spreadsheets and accessing websites but not for anyone streaming films etc.
#20
the only way this becomes "free" for a year is if the cashback is paid immediately and then immediately deposited in to your sky account, followed by the £100 voucher - both of which won't be happening.
#21
far2easy2kill
dataload
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
if you "work in IT" fix your own laptops..
I do on a regular basis but its not particularly easy to fix a mainboard when they dont supply them out. I could buy second hand and fix but the same issue can apply. I doubt many users on here (upon which my review is based) have the technical ability to rip apart an entire laptop and replace a part that isnt effectively user replaceable but id love to be proved wrong.

I agree with many of your points and sentiment behind usage cap but on the laptop front I don't work in IT at all and have repaired every laptop I've had over the last decade using YouTube videos.
Screen, keyboard, USB ports, processor, RAM, heatsink, fan even whole chipset is replaceable. I just search on eBay for the parts and install them.
Only thing I couldn't do is soldering circuitry like resistors lol!
#22
escortboy
far2easy2kill
dataload
far2easy2kill
jonnithomas
far2easy2kill
12gb monthly cap.... lenovo laptop.... cold on both reason. Get Sky installed, get free cheap laptop that will probably not last long, then go over your monthly cap downloading all the updates required for windows and the lenovo system programs. Id go with cashback or the TV goven the choices.
this response is frankly pathetic. point 1. Lenovo are not bad machines at all. I have had many Lenovo at work and at home and I've only ever called out an engineer once who came to me at home, did the repair and there was no charge. Point 2 if you are downloading that much a month to simply upgrade windows there is either something wrong with your system or you.
now which one is it ???? errrrrrm
Hmm, im guessing you have never had to try and get Lenovo to fix out of warranty. I work in IT, would never buy them again. Cheap machines and nowhere near the quality they were previously. You were lucky. I have been quoted more than the cost of the machine for a repair when out of warranty. Only company in 13 years of experience to do that! The usage was an overstatement to make a point. A 12gb monthly usage will get used very quickly by the large majority of users. For people who dont understand the values of internet limits it sounds like more than it actually is. Basic browsing followed by updates to systems (the windows 10 anniversary update is over 1Gb in size for most people and that is without downloading programs that most people will add. Plus if you buy a film from sky store thats a few GB that does count towards your cap... You seem very pro sky from your responses despite trying to cancel 3 times? I thought 40gb from BT was bad a year ago. 12gb is a poor deal unless you genuinely do nothing or dont use the internet, in which case the cashback or the telly would be better to you than the laptop. As for resorting to petty insults, sad really. I can assure you there is nothing wrong with me or my systems i work with at home and professionally, im just very aware that some people dont understand what data limits mean and if one person doesnt get overcharged because they looked at the exaggeration then im happy. No good having a "free" laptop if you then get charged every month because you have exceeded your limits.
if you "work in IT" fix your own laptops..
I do on a regular basis but its not particularly easy to fix a mainboard when they dont supply them out. I could buy second hand and fix but the same issue can apply. I doubt many users on here (upon which my review is based) have the technical ability to rip apart an entire laptop and replace a part that isnt effectively user replaceable but id love to be proved wrong.

I agree with many of your points and sentiment behind usage cap but on the laptop front I don't work in IT at all and have repaired every laptop I've had over the last decade using YouTube videos.
Screen, keyboard, USB ports, processor, RAM, heatsink, fan even whole chipset is replaceable. I just search on eBay for the parts and install them.
Only thing I couldn't do is soldering circuitry like resistors lol!


Its awesome that you do that, a lot of parts you can fix. Youtube is indeed a friend in a majority of cases. I just work with a considerable amount of staff who wouldnt dare attempt to even take the back off let alone source replacement parts, they just throw them at me to fix. The thinkpads are great laptops, i see many of them used in business and most seem sturdy. Unfortunately seen as i couldnt even see the model number of the laptop they want to give you on the sky site it didnt inspire confidence that it will last longer than a years warranty. I have personally found HP parts easier to come by for most laptops but again its hit and miss. Again the ProBooks we have are all still ok and easy (ish) to repair. The consumer ones people bring to me arent as sturdy. I go by ease of use and reliability when i choose or recommend laptops to people I know.

The only reason i posted about repairs and usage is because the type of deal this sucks in generally dont fix their own laptops and dont understand usage caps. Obviously some people on here know more which is awesome, but as i say, i doubt they would go for this deal anyway.

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