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Christmas is one of the most important seasons for sellers but competition for sales is tough. Try attracting more customers this Christmas by offering free postage (to any UK address) and you'll pay a reduced 5 pence Insertion Fee and will be able to use the Gallery Listing Upgrade feature for free for each item you list.

Free postage is used very successfully by many sellers on eBay as part of their selling strategy so why not take this opportunity of reduced costs to see how offering free postage could increase your sales and profits.

Remember that buyers can now search the eBay.co.uk site for items listed with free postage and during the week following the Free Postage Listing Days, there will be a dedicated free postage hub highlighting these items and how to search for them.

The promotion will also be advertised across the eBay.co.uk site, including the homepage, with extra email marketing going out to members.

Remember using the Gallery Listing Upgrade feature helps increase sales and during the promotion it's free for each eligible item you list so you've got nothing to lose.

Please make sure you read the full terms and conditions to ensure your listing is eligible
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#1
Postage and packing is one of the few ways many of us can get away with paying the extortionate ebay fees. Due to ebay's heavy promotion of paypal, everyone insists on paying me this way which again results in two lots of fees. In fact the paypal fee is often higher than the ebay fee.

I usually reduce the price of my item and raise postage, that way the buyer pays the same amount and ebay get less of my hard earned cash.

5p listing for free postage would result in quite a heavy loss for me but I do know there are some sellers out there who do offer free Postage so this would be perfect for them.
#2
Totally agree,ebay and pay pal fees take up around about 13% of selling price if not more.
#3
I'm generally put off ebay due to scammers and extortionate charges.

I use http://www.gumtree.co.uk/ sometimes usually good for things <£150ish
#4
Also agree. If Paypal and eBay had more realistic fees people wouldn't hike up their postage costs to cover it. I recently sold my old razr phone and paid over £10 just in fees.
#5
Well done eBay but I'm not falling for this.
Postage is where I can get the extra few quid to cover the fees, as you guys pointed out.
1 Like #6
Why does everyone complain about eBay fees. Without eBay you would have a much harder time selling your stuff. I bet it is the traders who complain the most. Well if you had a retail shop it would cost you a hell of a lot more in overheads then what eBay charge you in fees. eBay provides a pretty good service and the fees are very reasonable. Same goes for Paypal, without their service people wouldn't be able to pay me (an individual - not a trader) by credit card so I am happy to pay their fees.

Plenty of other auction sites out there so if you don't like the fees then move on. Of course then you probably won't be able to make as much sales as you do on eBay so shut up and put up. :thumbsup:
#7
Thanks for the heads up janus.

I don't understand what all the fuss is about with eBay fees. The most you pay as final value fees is 5.25% (less on amounts>£30)

This offer will save you at least 10p initial listing fee (more if you start the bidding >99p) and another 15p gallery fee.

So for items with a starting price <£1, this offer is equivilent to the savings made on £4.76 postage charge. Between £1.00 and £4.99, the saving is equivilent to fees otherwise saved on postage @ over £5.71

Once you get to starting prices at £5 or more, you need to be charging in excess of £9.52p+p to be making a saving.
Starting prices £15 & over will need postage in excess of £16.19 for you to gain and £30 and over needs p+p costs in excess of £30.47.
...and it continues upwards as the starting price increases.

This is an offer by eBay to let you test the water and see if you attract more/higher offers with Free Postage - do the straight forward calculation on actual cost to see how it weighs up, but remember a higher bid may easily offset any ebay fees you might save by slapping postage charges on.

You may not like the charges eBay and paypal charge, but no-one forces you to use them. However if you do decide to use them, don't cut off your nose to spite your face!
banned#8
Nobody likes the high charges that you get with ebay/paypal.

As a 'casual' seller I am happy to only sell when their are promotional days, so this offer *may* be good for me, for items that are light and would not incur high postage anyway.

As a buyer, I am always wary of people that hike up the p&p, and so my choice is not to buy from them. If everyone kept to reasonable fees for p&p, it would be nice to think that the fees ebay charge for all could be lowered. Of course, I am a realist, and know that is not going to happen!
#9
computersaysdoh
Nobody likes the high charges that you get with ebay/paypal.


On average I find all the charges amount to about 9% of my final selling price. Why do you think this is high? Have you seen how much a paid ad in a local paper would cost with photos and as much description as you need? Like for like this is what eBay gives you.
banned 1 Like #10
Slips,
I was thinking of making a comparision with local paper ads too, but thought someone would come back with a reference to those with 'free ads'.

I quoted 'Nobody likes the high charges' on the basis that I don't think people like to pay any more than they need to - thats human nature.

In my case, I have mostly sold low value items, so the '%' cost comes out higher.
#11
must say i sometimes tend to think ebay/paypal charges as a combo are high, HOWEVER if it wasnt for them, i wouldnt have even sold most of the items i did.

so i think its a case of just be happy with what you got

"" back to the topic"""

this offers no good to me, but i suppose for those who sell lighter/smaller items this would be perfect
#12
silps
On average I find all the charges amount to about 9% of my final selling price. Why do you think this is high? Have you seen how much a paid ad in a local paper would cost with photos and as much description as you need? Like for like this is what eBay gives you.



adtrader.co.uk

9% is not only high, it's extortionate imho...but this isn't the sort of thing that can be argued I don't think, either people are going to think it's fair or people are going to think it's too high, it's about personal perspective.
#13
Swings and roundabouts.....

"I don't understand what all the fuss is about with eBay fees. The most you pay as final value fees is 5.25% (less on amounts>£30) "

ebay fees for shop inventory is 10%

I spose we can bear in mind Amazon marketplace is 17.5%! and on that you dont even benefit from reasonable postage rates!

The problem with ebay now though, is there is no realistic competition. Its the only site that will attract buyers. The more buyers the better your price may be!

BUT!!

Why encourage free postage? cos ebay gets more money.

Not sure why every customer would like free postage anyway, you end up paying somewhere along the line. No such thing as free lunch.

Least if you can see the postage amount before buying, you can make a choice wether to pay or not
#14
Just up the price of the items to include the 'free' p&p? Most buyers are savvy enough to understand what you're doing and only take notice of the total price anyway.
#15
Artemis
Just up the price of the items to include the 'free' p&p? Most buyers are savvy enough to understand what you're doing and only take notice of the total price anyway.

That's my plan....seemed obvious to me...... unless you are the sort who thinks £19.99 isn't really just £20 ;)
#16
It is a real shame that ebay are a monopoly in the market. It would be great to see two auction sites competing with each other for our custom. Ebay can get away with anything they want as there is no real alternative.

Ebid and QXL are just nothing in comparison to ebay. I stuck an item on ebid once and it never sold in 8 weeks, same item sold in less than a week on ebay. Also I thought it was a bit cheeky of ebid to charge me for joining them.
#17
I think ebay and paypals fee's are over the top but I still use them regardless.

This free postage idea seems pap compared to the normal 5p and 10p listing days they usually offer every fortnight.

Thing is ebay killed the competition. I used to use Yahoo Auctions and the site used to get loads of traffic and was better than ebay.

Yahoo auctions worked exactly the same as ebay but it was free. I used to use Nochex as an instant payment and it worked extremely well.

Why won't ebay let me easily implement Nochex into my auction the same way as paypal? Because it isn't in their interests as they want all the money they can sqeeze out of the seller.

If ebays fee's were not so high and that paypal didn't charge so much for a useless service then the buyer would actually benefit. Prices for items would be cheaper as the seller wouldn't need to so much to cover their expenses.
#18
I agree, ebay and paypal fees counteract any offer like this, those fees are a rip off
#19
andrewrobinson1970
Swings and roundabouts.....

"I don't understand what all the fuss is about with eBay fees. The most you pay as final value fees is 5.25% (less on amounts>£30) "

ebay fees for shop inventory is 10%

...

Shops Inventory Format listings are specifically excluded from this promotional offer ;-)
#20
This promotion has been extended by an extra day because ebay didn't get their software right and sometimes incorrectly charged some users the full fees
(ebay say anyone who has been incorrectly charged will receive a refund within 2 weeks of promotion end)

Promotion now ends today.
#21
Ebay always do a 5p or 10p listing day in the run up to Christmas. I'm going to wait for one of those as I have about 20 items to sell, I have worked out that selling the items with free postage off would cost me well over a tenner in profits which ebay would get.

Yahoo auctions was definately superior to ebay in terms of selling.
#22
[SIZE=2]That's if they do another 5p or 10p offering before Christmas.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Remember that you are also getting a free gallery upgrade that would otherwise cost you 15p (ebay suggest that a gallery listing usually gets you a better selling price)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Even so, to be making the savings you claim and you deciding not to have a gallery upgrade, you will need to be charging over £9.50 p+p on every item to affect your profits by 50p per item. (i.e. a tenner overall)[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Perhaps you sell large, or heavy (over 2kg) items which is fair enough, but most people will otherwise refuse to buy at such over the odds p+p fees.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Just make sure you have calculated correctly. As others have said, most buyers look at the overall cost so adding the cost of postage to the item and taking advantage of this promotion should not be an issue. Also, according to ebay, some are actually enticed by the offer of free p+p (even if it is in the initial sale price) - some people like to think they are getting something for nothing. :) [/SIZE]
#23
i listed some items with free postage on monday and noticed they had charged me the full rate contacted them and they agreed also said they had been inundated with similar complaints so if you have listed then check they havent overcharged
#24
I checked my ebay account, all seems to be ok, im hoping theres another 10p day, I have alotta crap to get rid of and the proceeds are going towards xmas pressies ;-)
#25
[SIZE=2]I'd just like to point out that it is possible to save money on your listings by using image sites like photobucket.com. They tell you the code you need to put in your listings so no real experience necessary.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]This way you can avoid all of the ebay charges for additional photos and make your listings look more professional and maybe get a higher price.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2][/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Merry Christmas to all[/SIZE]
#26
^ I'm always amazed when I see people paying for the additional pictures and the listing designs when you can do it yourself for free! I think most people know better by now though.

And I am sure they will have another 10p listing day soon, they seem to be pretty frequent these days.
3 Likes #27
I think you lot are out of order making money from people by charging inflated postage prices what a rip off i often buy from ebay and only when i receive the item do i notice the £2 postage on the parcel when i have been charged £6.95 or something what a con. You know about the fees before you list but you still moan what do you want it for free or is that a silly question. You use ebay to sell your goods so whats wrong with a fee ? anyway it don't cost much very good value for money i say. I hate sellers that charge buyers for using pay pal as well even though its illegal to do so. some people are SO SO TIGHT.
1 Like #28
waterloo
I think you lot are out of order making money from people by charging inflated postage prices what a rip off i often buy from ebay and only when i receive the item do i notice the £2 postage on the parcel when i have been charged £6.95 or something what a con. You know about the fees before you list but you still moan what do you want it for free or is that a silly question. You use ebay to sell your goods so whats wrong with a fee ? anyway it don't cost much very good value for money i say. I hate sellers that charge buyers for using pay pal as well even though its illegal to do so. some people are SO SO TIGHT.



You know how much P+P you are getting charged before you buy and you choose to buy any way, how can you say it's a con?
That post is completely hypocritical, you are telling us if we don't like the ebay/paypal fees we shouldn't use them...but then complaining about excessive postage costs that you don't like but choose to pay them :roll:
#29
waterloo
I think you lot are out of order making money from people by charging inflated postage prices what a rip off i often buy from ebay and only when i receive the item do i notice the £2 postage on the parcel when i have been charged £6.95 or something what a con. You know about the fees before you list but you still moan what do you want it for free or is that a silly question. You use ebay to sell your goods so whats wrong with a fee ? anyway it don't cost much very good value for money i say. I hate sellers that charge buyers for using pay pal as well even though its illegal to do so. some people are SO SO TIGHT.


Can't say I agree there fella.

I always look at the total price (i.e. my max bid and p&p) and consider if I'm willing to purchase and have it delivered at that price. If I am, then great; I'll bid. I don't care how the total actually breaks down into p&p and item prices. If I feel the p&p is high, then I will bid lower so the total is around what I am willing to pay.
2 Likes #30
waterloo
I think you lot are out of order making money from people by charging inflated postage prices what a rip off i often buy from ebay and only when i receive the item do i notice the £2 postage on the parcel when i have been charged £6.95 or something what a con. You know about the fees before you list but you still moan what do you want it for free or is that a silly question. You use ebay to sell your goods so whats wrong with a fee ? anyway it don't cost much very good value for money i say. I hate sellers that charge buyers for using pay pal as well even though its illegal to do so. some people are SO SO TIGHT.


It's shipping and 'handling'. If I decide to charge you £5 for my drive to the post office and queue wait then that's up to me as long as the full S&H is right there on the auction.
1 Like #31
Far too much anger is directed at sellers tbh.
Ebay shop charges for mass sellers, Insertion Costs, Final Value Fees, ebay costs, storage costs, manhour costs, picking and packaging costs, to-Royal Mail-transporation-costs, time spent with Royal Mail doing Recorded/Special Delivery & filling out certificate of postage, actual Royal Mail costs for sending items, further time spent ensuring goods arrived properly all on top of paypal costs and fees as people naively believe they provide all knowing protection for everything bought through them not realising paypal hold money for days earning interest etc.

If people want bargain prices, buy from China/Hong Kong/India etc and tolerate the accountability they will have and the weeks sometimes months to deliver goods, compared to UK based sellers, UK is EXPENSIVE to operate in, accept it and grow up

I'm only an occasional seller usually on 10p days but I am amazed that people expect people in the UK to operate on below minimum wage or make a loss just so THEY can get a bargain, it's massive selfishness.
1 Like #32
Starlet
You know how much P+P you are getting charged before you buy and you choose to buy any way, how can you say it's a con?
That post is completely hypocritical, you are telling us if we don't like the ebay/paypal fees we shouldn't use them...but then complaining about excessive postage costs that you don't like but choose to pay them :roll:
the con is mate that i did not know how much it cost to send in the first place until it dropped on my doorstep and i see £1.70 postage on the wrapped up carrier bag as packaging if i knew the postage was only £1.70
then i wouldn't of bought it ok. I know better now and it want happen again so how is this post hypocritical you dont know what your talking about.As i said before some people are so tight.
1 Like #33
You knew how much you were being charged for P+P, what does how much it actually cost to send have to do with anything.
Go to the Royal Mail website and look up how much something is going to cost if you actually care that you must pay the actual amount the seller spends.
It's your responsibility not the sellers, if you agree to pay £xx p+p then it's assumed you are OK paying £xx p+p, if you aren't...don't pay it.

The seller doesn't deserve to be called a 'con' because you don't know how something works.
#34
Starlet
You knew how much you were being charged for P+P, what does how much it actually cost to send have to do with anything.
Go to the Royal Mail website and look up how much something is going to cost if you actually care that you must pay the actual amount the seller spends.
It's your responsibility not the sellers, if you agree to pay £xx p+p then it's assumed you are OK paying £xx p+p, if you aren't...don't pay it.

The seller doesn't deserve to be called a 'con' because you don't know how something works.

because if i would have known the real postage cost was only £1.70 i would not have bought the thing that's what its got to do with but you cannot see it this way can you as i said before some people are so tight.
1 Like #35
You should have found out how much it really was going to cost to send if you are bothered by that detail.

It's like going into a shop and buying something for £100, then going in another shop further down the road, seeing they sell the same thing for £90 so returning to the first shop shouting 'con, scam, rip off' - it isn't their fault you didn't do your research.
2 Likes #36
Starlet
You should have found out how much it really was going to cost to send if you are bothered by that detail.

It's like going into a shop and buying something for £100, then going in another shop further down the road, seeing they sell the same thing for £90 so returning to the first shop shouting 'con, scam, rip off' - it isn't their fault you didn't do your research.

you are now talking a load of ******** mate trying to be funny are you.
1 Like #37
waterloo
the con is mate that i did not know how much it cost to send in the first place until it dropped on my doorstep and i see £1.70 postage on the wrapped up carrier bag as packaging if i knew the postage was only £1.70
then i wouldn't of bought it ok. I know better now and it want happen again so how is this post hypocritical you dont know what your talking about.As i said before some people are so tight.


You don't really understand real life do you. It's like a big hazy dream that goes on around you.
#38
It's not a con if the shipping and handling is clearly stated in the auction.

Price Drop TV charge £7.99 for postage and packing, there's no way it costs £7.99 to ship all their items.

However sellers who fail to list a P+P price and add huge amounts on the end are a bit of a con, but you do notice these sellers as they are the ones who tend to receive negative feedback.

You should always include the P+P cost with the items cost when deciding whether to buy something.

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