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Computer networks these days are not limited to big offices with a lot of employees. More and more people at home or in small offices have a computer network. With the recent programs, applications and data files becoming larger and larger, the need for additional storage space is more present than ever before!

Freecom offers you the perfect storage upgrade for your network, the new Network Drive. Simply connect the Network Drive to your router or switch, run the easy to use configuration wizard, and have instant access to the drive from any PC within your network. It can even be configured to be accessed via the Internet, so your data is available for you from anywhere in the world, without your PC needed to be switched on!

The included configuration assistant will guide you to set up the drive and security options the way you want it. For increased flexibility, you can also use the Network Drive as a standalone USB 2.0 hard drive, you can connect and access it to any PC. Again Freecom has created a storage solution from a consumer's perspective, where convenience, design and quality are key factors. Free your mind!

Freecom Network Drive - NAS - 500 GB - HD 500 GB x 1 - Hi-Speed USB / Ethernet 10/100
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Found by my special English friend whilst scouring the internet for a NAS Drive ;-)

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#1
[SIZE=2]Only voted cold as you could make your own up for about £90 and five mins with a screw driver.[/SIZE]
#2
rjm67
[SIZE=2]Only voted cold as you could make your own up for about £90 and five mins with a screw driver.[/SIZE]


Where would you suggest getting a cheap NAS caddy from then?

I think this is a decent price.
#3
Forget the NAS caddy ?!?!!?

Where would you suggest getting a cheap SCREW DRIVER from then ? ( smiles )

K
#4
I managed to pick up a generic caddy for £25 inc postage on ebay and threw one of my spare IDE drives in. Worked out a lot cheaper than this.
#5
I never came across network caddy which offered even half-decent performance. It seems most of it using cheap RDC chipset, which isn't a speed champion. Don't know much about Freecom solution though.

BTW, an interesting performance comparison chart. If you're after cheap NAS, take a look at it.
#6
If you want performance then USB 2 and not network is your answer. If having a drive on all of the time and seperate from your pc is what you need then you'll put up with the huge loss in transfer speed no matter what chipset it uses.
#7
The advantage of a NAS drive is that no extra PC has to be on if any device Xbox running XBMC or a DVB-C/S want's to access the Data.

I personally prefer the the Buffalo Linkstation as it offers more possibilitys but for this Price it seems ok ;-)
#8
If you want performance then USB 2 and not network is your answer.
You can still have decent performance and having your files on network. A DLink DNS-323 is quite good (I am talking about low-end NASes, of course).

If having a drive on all of the time and seperate from your pc is what you need then you'll put up with the huge loss in transfer speed no matter what chipset it uses.
Not true. There are fast chipsets and slow chipsets. Most of cheap 20-quid-ish enclosures are using RDC and from my tests it never exceeded 2MBps on 100Mbps connection.
#9
mikeyp
Where would you suggest getting a cheap NAS caddy from then?

I think this is a decent price.


Ebuyer have one for just over £30, and you can get a 500GB HD for £64. Free delivery too.
#10
Kommunist
You can still have decent performance and having your files on network. A DLink DNS-323 is quite good (I am talking about low-end NASes, of course).

Not true. There are fast chipsets and slow chipsets. Most of cheap 20-quid-ish enclosures are using RDC and from my tests it never exceeded 2MBps on 100Mbps connection.


My point is that for around £20 you can have a usb caddy that gives a far faster access to your drives than most NAS drives. I'm not including high end ones and I thought that was obvious? :whistling:

If you need access to your files from several machines and you want a drive that you can access remotely and do not want to use remote desktop for example then a NAS drive is fine.

But at these low end prices you are NEVER going to beat the speed of a cheap USB 2 caddy with drive.

I hope that makes it clear for you now?
#11
davelfc
If you want performance then USB 2 and not network is your answer. If having a drive on all of the time and seperate from your pc is what you need then you'll put up with the huge loss in transfer speed no matter what chipset it uses.


Hilarious - how fast is your network then?

GigE? 10GigE?
#12
dc2447
Hilarious - how fast is your network then?

GigE? 10GigE?
#13
davelfc
My point is that for around £20 you can have a usb caddy that gives a far faster access to your drives than most NAS drives. I'm not including high end ones and I thought that was obvious? :whistling:

If you need access to your files from several machines and you want a drive that you can access remotely and do not want to use remote desktop for example then a NAS drive is fine.

But at these low end prices you are NEVER going to beat the speed of a cheap USB 2 caddy with drive.

I hope that makes it clear for you now?

And? What the whole USB subject has to do with NAS? You can also buy cheap Firewire 800 caddies and (possibly) exceed USB speed.
The whole topic is about NAS, the whole point of which is being on network. And I was talking about performance on network, not for single machine transfer.
#14
dc2447
Hilarious - how fast is your network then?

GigE? 10GigE?


I don't really understand you? Are we trading network speeds here? My point is that for a home user who wants external storage for files etc a USB 2 drive is much faster and for these prices is always going to be faster.

some people :whistling:
#15
Kommunist
And? What the whole USB subject has to do with NAS? You can also buy cheap Firewire 800 caddies and (possibly) exceed USB speed.
The whole topic is about NAS, the whole point of which is being on network. And I was talking about performance on network, not for single machine transfer.


This is hard work.

I'm simply saying that an alternative (and faster) to a NAS drive for some is a USB caddy. Are you a proffesional pedant?
#16
davelfc
This is hard work.

I'm simply saying that an alternative (and faster) to a NAS drive for some is a USB caddy. Are you a proffesional pedant?
No, I am just sticking to the discussion's subject, unlike some people. :whistling:
As to alternative to NAS - to compare USB drives and NAS is just like comparing apples and oranges.
#17
Kommunist
No, I am just sticking to the discussion's subject, unlike some people. :whistling:
As to alternative to NAS - to compare USB drives and NAS is just like comparing apples and oranges.


More like oranges and grapefuit really.

:whistling:
#18
davelfc
More like oranges and grapefuit really.

:whistling:

I bow for your citrus expertise :giggle:
#19
Kommunist
I bow for your citrus expertise :giggle:
#20
All this bickering is a real pain in the NAS. :giggle:

Off Topic - As for the performance of external USB drives, I’d prefer to recommend a combo USB/eSATA enclosure if you have serious performance requirements.
#21
SmilingCrow
All this bickering is a real pain in the NAS. :giggle:

Off Topic - As for the performance of external USB drives, I’d prefer to recommend a combo USB/eSATA enclosure if you have serious performance requirements.


Which is exactly what I use and when it's time to transfer some really large files in a hurry I switch to USB.
#22
This is a NAS drive, so people would typically buy it if they want to access a PC-less storage device from multiple client PC's on the same (small office/home) ethernet network.

If you dont need this convenience, buy a external harddrive that has a USB2 interface only - its much cheaper as has been said.

I don't see the confusion. But then again I dont see a particularly hot deal here either.

Another thing worth noting is that some of the NAS drives have maximum filesize limitations. Can't seem to find these details for this model, but often it seems to have at most a 4GB file limit, which is no good for large files (such as backuped DVD ISO images) greater than 4gb. This shouldn't affect most people.
#23
It looks like the Freecom is nothing more than cheap NAS enclosure with Samsung drive in it (judging by User Guide).
The chipset seems to be RDC 2882.

Disk format isn't mentioned anywhere, but as they say you can connect it straight to Windows PC without drivers, it has to be either NTFS (doubtful) or FAT32 (in which case you'll get that 4GB file limit, mentioned by jazid).

It really looks like buying cheapest NAS enclosure + HDD is better option.
#24
jazid
I don't see the confusion. But then again I dont see a particularly hot deal here either.
So where can you get this NAS for less then?
1 Like #25
Bickering and ladies handbags aside :p You'd be better off getting a Slug (Linksys NSLU2) Hacking it and sticking some USB drives on there. I have a number of Slugs and they've proved to be the most useful bits of kit I've ever owned.

Linky

Cheers

Dave
#26
davelfc
Which is exactly what I use and when it's time to transfer some really large files in a hurry I switch to USB.

I don’t understand why you would do that as eSATA is a lot faster than USB.
I was suggesting an eSATA/USB dual interface enclosure as you have the eSATA for performance and USB for compatibility with machines that lack eSATA.
Note. You can upgrade any PC with a spare internal SATA port to eSATA using a £5 bracket.
#27
davelfc
This is hard work.

I'm simply saying that an alternative (and faster) to a NAS drive for some is a USB caddy. Are you a proffesional pedant?


OK, this device offers both connections but I am still unsure why we are all having this discussion as I assumed this site is here to highlight cheap/good offers of products ready to buy as one part and not as a kit ...

Best regards from a first time poster ...
#28
Regarding NAS file size limit. Surely you can just format drive in NTFS format to resolve limitations. Dont see why it wouldnt handle it?

So who can find the cheapest NAS caddy? Links ppl!
#29
mikeyp
Regarding NAS file size limit. Surely you can just format drive in NTFS format to resolve limitations. Dont see why it wouldnt handle it?


Yes - I have network storage that came FAT and is now EXT3
#30
dc2447
Yes - I have network storage that came FAT and is now EXT3


Nice 1. I found this one at £29.38 (£37 inc p&p) which looks pretty cool
http://www.pctradeshop.com/code/adm/img/plarg/NSUR-1100F.jpg

mentions the 4gb file limit (not bothered). But this 1 also has usb. So should satisfy everyone!!!

http://www.pctradeshop.com/code/ui/main/search/productsearch.aspx?search=network%20attached%20storage&criteria=2
#31
mikeyp
Regarding NAS file size limit. Surely you can just format drive in NTFS format to resolve limitations. Dont see why it wouldnt handle it?

So who can find the cheapest NAS caddy? Links ppl!
Many NAS boxes can't handle NTFS in networked mode. You can format it to NTFS for USB use though (if it got USB).

As to caddie above - the spec says : [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]File System: FAT32 (max. 4GB file size)
And it is RDC 2882 :)

BTW, firmware for it is here: http://www.aroundmyroom.com/2007/03/07/landisk-firmware-upgrade/
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#32
Kommunist
Many NAS boxes can't handle NTFS in networked mode. You can format it to NTFS for USB use though (if it got USB).

As to caddie above - the spec says : [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]File System: FAT32 (max. 4GB file size)
And it is RDC 2882 :)

BTW, firmware for it is here: http://www.aroundmyroom.com/2007/03/07/landisk-firmware-upgrade/
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So you might be able to get a firmware upgrade for this that would handle NTFS fully then?
I like the fact it supports DDNS.
#33
Don't think so. It looks like there is no NTFS support but rather interesting indexing feature on FAT32. If I got it right, then firmware is reporting file larger than 4GB but in reality it is split into several files. Look at this post:

NTFS is not supported
+4GB files is just supported as: a +4GB file is cutted binary at the 4GB limit and an index file is made, when retrieved through lan the file is copied back again. Through USB this is not supported




If you definitely must have NTFS, then there is a limited support on NSLU2. It is great device though and you can customize it any way you like.
#34
http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=2337&prepg=

This one can after the recommended FW update handle 2x 500GB and it supports even NFS !! Very good protocoll when streaming Video Data from a Set top box
#35
Kommunist
If you definitely must have NTFS, then there is a limited support on NSLU2. It is great device though and you can customize it any way you like.

It sounds an interesting device but I have a few questions. What are its limitations with regard to NTFS? How fast is the network transfer rate?
I was really surprised on looking at the link provided earlier on how incredibly slow these NAS drives are.
#36

What are its limitations with regard to NTFS?

NTFS is only recognized in Port 1, for example. There are some issues with read-only access to NTFS partitions too.
I switched to FAT32 as 4Gb limitation isn't a problem for me and also because of EXT3 issues with drives connected to USB hub (I have 5 disks attached to Slug).

How fast is the network transfer rate?

Not something to be excited about. It is in a region of 3-4MBps.
#37
pt-1
OK, this device offers both connections but I am still unsure why we are all having this discussion as I assumed this site is here to highlight cheap/good offers of products ready to buy as one part and not as a kit ...
Best regards from a first time poster ...


Wrong, your last sentence sums it all up though.

We certainly don't just look at the offer, otherwise there wouldn't be a facility to post like I am doing now. I simply offered another alternative (USB) to this when it was mentioned that you could buy a caddy cheaper and use an old drive (as I have done) The aim is to save money and if you can buy the parts and get it cheaper then that's a better deal, no?

On this device and many others the USB part will be quicker than the NET part for transfer of files. I was not aware that this device had both (although a lot do) and I am not sure if it states if it is an IDE or SATA drive?

I have often been just about to buy a deal I have seen on here and after reading the rest of the comments have sometimes stopped and given thought to other devices. Some people might find it easier to just get a usb caddy as they might not have a router or want to bother with messing around with a network. I am guessing they might not buy this in that case but reading through the comments they can form some sort of opinion.
banned#38
[COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=5]THIS IS A NAS DRIVE
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[SIZE=5][SIZE=2][COLOR=DarkRed]... it's for putting filestore into a network so the same set of files can be accessed from different machines without a host machine having to be running all of the time. Comparing it to eSATA, USB or Firewire drives is completely irrelevant.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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#39
Throwing insults and sending abusive PM's are not acceptable here. Please keep this thread on topic and respect other members views! Thanks.
#40
I saw XBMC on the xbox was mentioned earlier, does anyone know if this device will work with it? :thinking:

Been looking for something for a little while now that I can store files on and access htem from my PC and my Xbox, but im not sure if you need a 'compatible' drive or if any old NAS will do?:)

This seems ok:
http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=1182&prepg=1

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