Fujitsu Siemens SCALEOVIEW D22W-1 - Flat panel display - TFT - 22" - widescreen - piano black - £134.23 Delivered @ Insight.com - HotUKDeals
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FOR THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PREVIOUS DEAL, ORDERS ARE NOW BEING TAKEN ONLINE

****GRAB ONE WHILE YOU CAN, ONLY 144 IN STOCK!!!****

A little dearer than the last posted deal, but still a good price for a good quality monitor!!

Product Description Fujitsu Siemens SCALEOVIEW D22W-1 - flat panel display - TFT - 22"
Manufacturer Warranty 3 years warranty
Dimensions (WxDxH) 51 cm x 20.2 cm x 42.4 cm
Weight 4.9 kg
Power AC 120/230 V ( 50/60 Hz )
Audio Output Speaker(s) - stereo - integrated
Device Type Flat panel display / TFT active matrix
Diagonal Size 22" - widescreen
Viewable Size 22"
Max Resolution 1680 x 1050
Compliant Standards Plug and Play, CE, DDC-2B, EN 60950, EN 61000-3-2, EPA Energy Star, GS, ISO 13406-2, VESA FPMPMI, EN 61000-3-3, EN55024, EN55022 Class B
Power Consumption Operational 55 Watt
Built-in Devices Stereo speakers
Colour support 24-bit (16.7 million colours)
Image Brightness 300 cd/m2
Image Contrast Ratio 1000:1 / 2000:1 (dynamic)
Response Time 5 ms
Colour Black, piano black
Digital Video Standard Digital Visual Interface (DVI)
Dot Pitch / Pixel Pitch 0.282 mm
Signal Input DVI-D, VGA
Display Positions Adjustments Tilt
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#1
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/Resources/215/846362813.jpg
#2
well i got two of these monitors after the last post and all i can say is wow...v good VFM not sure iff other prices are clost to this one though...the 3 year warrently on this one is v good so that is a good clincher.:roll:
#3
VERY DARK....
:thumbsup:
#4
my mistake - not feeling well

edit
#5
WIth mine, there is a main hum when it is in use. No hum when it is on standby. Do other people experience this with this model?
#6
splender
WIth mine, there is a main hum when it is in use. No hum when it is on standby. Do other people experience this with this model?

I have the same, seems worse if you drop the brightness down from 100, a way around this if you are not using the built in speakers is just to turn the sound all the way down.... but it does still hum louder than my Mac Mini!
#7
dejonge3
I have the same, seems worse if you drop the brightness down from 100, a way around this if you are not using the built in speakers is just to turn the sound all the way down.... but it does still hum louder than my Mac Mini!

Thanks, this panel is so bright I am on brightness setting of 10. I have turned the the sound vol to 40, the hum is a lot less now. Thanks. So this sounds like that the is some earthing problem and then the main hum is amplified by the speaker. This is an unexpected design and/or manufacturing quality control problem from a well known company. However the panel is excellent, I can live with this low volume hum. I think the transformer was placed too close to the speaker or there is some electromagnetic leakage from the transformer. This type of problem is so avoidable and is GCSE physics education level of knowledge! This proximity of transformer to speaker was also a problem for the Logik IR100 internet radio that many readers had to rip open the unit and to re-position the transformer . I am using this panel for movies as well as TV running as dual screen from my laptop.
Bought mine for £111 at Insight. I wondered if the MAR2 discount (£10) still apply? It seems that it does not then reader will get a slightly better panel . 22" Neovo H-W22 V2 Widescreen LCD for £141 from SCAN.CO.UK. (Only when it is on todayonly offer which is quite often otherwise it is £200) with free delivery. At £7 extra the H-W22 is definitely a better buy at least for three small reasons but I guess each reason is worth £2!: 3 watt speaker rather than 1, 3 msec response rather than 5, the spec of the panel may be slightly better being a Neovo. But I went for the Fujitsu for £111 and the price difference then of £30 could not justify my using it as a secondary monitor and then later there is always something better!
#8
The price has been upped by £10 since I bought it! Anyway its a good monitor for the price, however it's viewing angles are pretty small and the contrast isn't great either. It doesn't look anywhere near as good as my 24" Dell but then I wouldn't expect it to with the Dell being 3x the price. It hums for me with brightness above 90, anything below that and its silent.

A good budget choice.
#9
I feel the same as you guys, I can live with it for the price (£108) I had a VGA LCD monitor before and the picture quality is so much better through this monitor using DVI
#10
Is there a way to use this with a sky+ box?
#11
Looks good to me. Has anyone spotted a good deal for a monitor that has swivel from portrait to landscape and landscape to portrait view?

Thanks
#12
winchman;1831066
Is there a way to use this with a sky+ box?


there are plenty of tv tuner box (not usb but pure av to vga) on fleebay:thumbsup:
#13
Great looking screen...very classy, wonderful price. Voted hot whether it hums or not
#14
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#15
I got two of these and I'm quite happy.
The screens themselves are nice, but the caseing / stand are quite tacky so you can see where the value for money comes from. Even the DVI cables look cheap.
Also I was under the impression that this does support HDCP as per the spec sheet?
http://extranet.fujitsu-siemens.com/VIL/dmsp/de/5c/ds_scaleoview_d22w-1.pdf
#16
Anybody want to buy my one? I bought one the last time for £111.
It is still in the box never been on. Bought it for my son,s PS2 but can,t connect them.
Looking for £111 plus postage.
PM me if you want it.

Ade.
#17
This does support HDCP via DVi
#18
adewilson
Anybody want to buy my one? I bought one the last time for £111.
It is still in the box never been on. Bought it for my son,s PS2 but can,t connect them.
Looking for £111 plus postage.
PM me if you want it.

Ade.


Hi
PM sent. Could you get back to me asap.
THanks
#19
That's a good price
#20
I've just set mine up and its lovely.
I use a 24" Dell at work, and this one isnt that much of a step down really. Considering what an amazing price it it. The Dell cost £350 this one was £111.
If I had enough money I would go for three of these over one 24" dell any day!

:D
#21
Yep, I agree, these are a great monitor - I ordered two on the last deal and they are superb. Like most people, I had to turn the volume down to stop any humming as it is set at 100 when you take them out of the box. You will also probably need to crank the brightness down a fair bit too - they are retina-burningly bright (in a good way). A good buy, at a good price in my opinion.
#22
In case you folks missed my post earlier this is also a fantastic LCD panel now that the price is higher for the Fujitsu.
22" Neovo H-W22 V2 Widescreen LCD for £141 from SCAN.CO.UK. (Only when it is on todayonly offer which is quite often otherwise it is £200) with free delivery. At £7 extra the H-W22 is definitely a better buy at least for three small reasons but I guess each reason is worth £2!: 3 watt speaker rather than 1, 3 msec response rather than 5, the spec of the panel may be slightly better being a Neovo. But I am happy with the Fujitsu for £111.
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Having owned one of these for a while now and used it intensively day and night, I think I can give a better review than the one I wrote in the original £111 post where I'd only had the screen for an hour.

My initial excitement of going from 19" 1152x864 up to 22" 1680x1050 has passed. I can now really see the screens faults and have run diagnostic software on the screen to calibrate it properly. Heres what I still love and dislike about the screen.

1. The biggest issue is the brightness, if you plan on using this screen in a darkened room or at night, you may find it hard or impossible to get the brightness low enough to get anything close to black. The best I can get is a mid to dark gray as my black with all controls down to 0. In the daytime this isn't a problem at all.

2. Movies kinda suck on this screen because of the terrible black level. Dark movies appear washed out and the darkest grays dont even appear, no matter how bright you set the screen.

3. Field of view is pretty bad from top to bottom. It's impossible to sit in front of it at and put the screen at a vertical angle where the screen is consistently one tone from top to bottom. I get light bars at the bottom and top of the screen and a gradient effect around the middle of the screen. It isn't a big visual distraction in normal use, you get used to it and dont really notice it but while calibrating its pretty bad and watching movies or tv with dark scenes, it's glaringly obvious how uneven the display is (again not a problem playing video in the daytime, looks just fine then)

4. If you need to run the screen at any other resolution than its native 1680x1050, the scaling the monitor does is terrible. I mean really terrible. If you have an nVidia graphics card, go into the driver settings and change the lcd scaling to nvidias own for non native resolutions. This helps a lot! Text looks much better with nvidias scaling but still pretty blurry and ugly unless its at native resolution and then its just amazing!

5. Mine doesnt hum, whether volume is full or off but really cant imagine anyone would seriously use the built in speakers for anything other than system beeps.

6. I like the stand and the overall look of the monitor. I'm sure there are prettier screens out there but I'm rather partial to the piano black and the extra large base does make it very stable.

7 I've tried using DVI connection and the bright level was set automatically so high that everything was washed out at night but looked sort of ok in the daytime. There are no controls to change this when using DVI. When using Dsub/analog connection you get all the controls back and I was able to set a much more pleasing image up with nvidias display calibration wizard, Everest display calibration tool and displaymate. To name three tools worth checking if you need help calibrating. Finally with regard to dvi / dsub I didnt notice any difference at all between the two. I mean I studied this closely switching between the two and you're a better a man than me if you can spot improvements when using dvi. :)

8. 5ms response time isnt enough on such a big display in my opinion. I think I've learned a lot about screens since buying this one and would be able to make a much better buying decision next time (2ms ftw) The blurring effect I got while things were moving was very noticable to me and I'd go as far as to say it was sickening for the first few days while heavily surfing the web and scrolling long pages. I'm really getting used to it now and find it difficult to see the blur at all. My eyes have compensated I guess.

Overall then at £111 it was a superb price. Any higher and I'd be pondering whether it is worth it. 22" is great, no doubt about it but for me I think I'd prefer a slightly higher quality screen at a smaller size for the same price, say a better 20" screen that will more accurately handle video with a decent black level. Of course now I'm used to 22" there is no going back. It's on to 24" from here heh

Do I recommend it? Depends on whether you can live with no true black levels. Everything else is really minor compared to that as far as im concerned. For straight windows use at native resolution its truly excellent day or night.
#24
Tech heads can help out here

looking ot replace my Dell 21" CRT which ive had for 5 years now which was the best you could buy at the time cost me £140 but retailed at £250 great when Dell owed me a favour.

Shall I get the Samsung SM206BW from Play.com which at £154.69 with the voucher

or shall I get the new Samsung pebble TFT the SM2032BW which I can get for £147.63 which I can buy through Trade

OR shall I go for one of these Scaleoview ones ??

Any advice would be helpful. TA!!
#25
Kankan101;1837016


Shall I get the Samsung SM206BW from Play.com which at £154.69 with the voucher

or shall I get the new Samsung pebble TFT the SM2032BW which I can get for £147.63 which I can buy through Trade

OR shall I go for one of these Scaleoview ones ??

Any advice would be helpful. TA!!


The Pebble impresses me the most and at that price you're quoting that is a super bargain. I have the Samsung Pebble 32" TV and it impresses daily. The contrast ratio is almost plasma like and the looks just cannot be beaten if that is important to you. The Pebble monitor looks identical in a smaller package so it is really easy to recommend.

If I'd of had the extra cash I'd of gone with the Pebble but at the time I bought this Fujitsu Siemens 22" at £111 inc delivery the Pebble was a whopping £220! Double the price is hard to justify for me but if quality is of more concern and you're getting it for only a little extra then I'd go for the Pebble.

I'm writing this at 11am and it is very difficult to fault this Fujitsu Siemens screen in the daytime. It's close to perfect but then I work in a large office with extremely large windows so its very bright in here most of the time. At night as I've previously mentioned the screen shows its flaws. The Pebble on the other hand looks fantastic day or night.

As for the Samsung SM206BW it has great specs too just like the Pebble. Same great viewing angle, great 2ms response time as compared to the noticably worse Fujitsu Siemens which is 5ms, super 3000:1 contrast ratio but it's just not got that great Pebble styling.

So for the little extra the Pebble will cost for you, I'd heartily recommend it. :thumbsup: For everyone else that still has to pay £220 for the Pebble, the Fujitsu is still a contender.
#26
ninjarom
Having owned one of these for a while now and used it intensively day and night, I think I can give a better review than the one I wrote in the original £111 post where I'd only had the screen for an hour.

My initial excitement of going from 19" 1152x864 up to 22" 1680x1050 has passed. I can now really see the screens faults and have run diagnostic software on the screen to calibrate it properly. Heres what I still love and dislike about the screen.

1. The biggest issue is the brightness, if you plan on using this screen in a darkened room or at night, you may find it hard or impossible to get the brightness low enough to get anything close to black. The best I can get is a mid to dark gray as my black with all controls down to 0. In the daytime this isn't a problem at all.

2. Movies kinda suck on this screen because of the terrible black level. Dark movies appear washed out and the darkest grays dont even appear, no matter how bright you set the screen.

3. Field of view is pretty bad from top to bottom. It's impossible to sit in front of it at and put the screen at a vertical angle where the screen is consistently one tone from top to bottom. I get light bars at the bottom and top of the screen and a gradient effect around the middle of the screen. It isn't a big visual distraction in normal use, you get used to it and dont really notice it but while calibrating its pretty bad and watching movies or tv with dark scenes, it's glaringly obvious how uneven the display is (again not a problem playing video in the daytime, looks just fine then)

4. If you need to run the screen at any other resolution than its native 1680x1050, the scaling the monitor does is terrible. I mean really terrible. If you have an nVidia graphics card, go into the driver settings and change the lcd scaling to nvidias own for non native resolutions. This helps a lot! Text looks much better with nvidias scaling but still pretty blurry and ugly unless its at native resolution and then its just amazing!

5. Mine doesnt hum, whether volume is full or off but really cant imagine anyone would seriously use the built in speakers for anything other than system beeps.

6. I like the stand and the overall look of the monitor. I'm sure there are prettier screens out there but I'm rather partial to the piano black and the extra large base does make it very stable.

7 I've tried using DVI connection and the bright level was set automatically so high that everything was washed out at night but looked sort of ok in the daytime. There are no controls to change this when using DVI. When using Dsub/analog connection you get all the controls back and I was able to set a much more pleasing image up with nvidias display calibration wizard, Everest display calibration tool and displaymate. To name three tools worth checking if you need help calibrating. Finally with regard to dvi / dsub I didnt notice any difference at all between the two. I mean I studied this closely switching between the two and you're a better a man than me if you can spot improvements when using dvi. :)

8. 5ms response time isnt enough on such a big display in my opinion. I think I've learned a lot about screens since buying this one and would be able to make a much better buying decision next time (2ms ftw) The blurring effect I got while things were moving was very noticable to me and I'd go as far as to say it was sickening for the first few days while heavily surfing the web and scrolling long pages. I'm really getting used to it now and find it difficult to see the blur at all. My eyes have compensated I guess.

Overall then at £111 it was a superb price. Any higher and I'd be pondering whether it is worth it. 22" is great, no doubt about it but for me I think I'd prefer a slightly higher quality screen at a smaller size for the same price, say a better 20" screen that will more accurately handle video with a decent black level. Of course now I'm used to 22" there is no going back. It's on to 24" from here heh

Do I recommend it? Depends on whether you can live with no true black levels. Everything else is really minor compared to that as far as im concerned. For straight windows use at native resolution its truly excellent day or night.



superb review!!

rep added!!:thumbsup:
#27
Ebuyer has 12 of these in stock, u get free delivery if you choose the super save option

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/135669
#28
See post 16.
Mine is still for sale if anyone want's it.
PM me

Cheers

Ade.

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