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Seen instore at Peterlee.

Four Full Fat bayonet cap 100w light bulbs for two quid.



Not everyones cup o' tea, especially those dear folk who are trying to save t'planet, but you never know, someone may find them useful.





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#1
More about saving in your pocket. A 100W bulb costs £20 a year if used 4 hours a day. An energy equivalent one will cost you £4 a year!
#2
Normal planet killer 100w bulbs are 3 for a quid in B&M Bargains.
#3
Why cold because you are eco freaks.

energy saving bulbs=bad eye sight

Give me 100w any day (or night)
#4
Whatever price it is, it isn't a deal, it is one of the most expensive ways of lighting a room, and not a very good one anyway, a faint little glimmer from above when for the same amount of electricity you could run several low energy lamps and have it as light as a sunny day of you so want!

I am not really an eco freak, but I am not a dinosaur, and nor do I spend time and effort to spend MORE than I need do!
#5
markvirgo;8061679

energy saving bulbs=bad eye sight


untrue comment = utter tripe
#6
Kidology!!! More expensive to run a full fat lightbulb!! Voted cold
1 Like #7
Unrelated to the item, the big shock for me is that Maxwells are still going in the North East! They were the most expensive place to buy DIY gear when I was a kid, about 40 years ago, and I was amazed to see they are still going, what with all the competition!
#8
Don't these get banned this year?
#9
nihcaj
untrue comment = utter tripe


Really read This
#10
this may well be a deal for some people.

i don't personally use normal bulbs where i can help it, and most of my house is using low energy equivalent, but i have read that some people, especially those with eyesight problems, are far happier using old fashioned bright bulbs. as a result, some of the brighter bulbs are commanding premium prices, so if this helps someone out, then i am happy. if other people don't want to use them, then i won't force them to buy them.


as for the deal being cold, it should only be deemed cold if someone can get them cheaper elsewhere, not because of their eco-tendencies.
#11
Cold, because taking all of the lamps out of your light fittings and sitting in dark will save you 100% of your lighting costs.
#12
ok for the toilet , need instant brightness for that quick pee.:thumbsup:
[helper]#13
Paddy_o_furniture
Don't these get banned this year?


I also thought this was the case! Weird.
#14
JPS
I also thought this was the case! Weird.


The "ban" isn't actually legal apparently. Like much of what Government gets up to in the World these days, and always did I suppose.
#15
nihcaj
untrue comment = utter tripe


Not so, energy saving light bulbs do not give off a clean enough light, especially for people with disabilities and sight loss. Let's not forget that energy saving bulbs are flourescent. Flourescent light is not the best light. I am in favour of keeping a good supply of both types of bulbs.

As for saving energy, yes, every bit helps. But it's your white goods and kettles that chew up the national grid not the bulbs.
#16
To be honest, using an 'eco' light bulb 24/7 over a year is more detrimental to the environment than using a 'full fat' bulb for 1 second over a year. Yes, i know this is a massive exaggeration but it illustrates that just because you buy 'eco', doesnt mean you act 'eco' - it's all about the application.

50p a bulb seems a fair price to me if that's your bag.
#17
VDisillusioned
The "ban" isn't actually legal apparently. Like much of what Government gets up to in the World these days, and always did I suppose.


Let me know where you get your information about it being illegal, or if you just made it up, or dreamt it.

There was never a bad on using the bulbs, only a ban on manufacturing them (in the UK at least).There are probably millions of them still available which were produced before the ban....Though I may have made that up, or dreamt it.
#18
markvirgo;8062010
Really read This


Yes... utter pish.

I think reading that article confirms that quite nicely! Try reading it again.

Besides... that drivel from the DAILY MAIL refers to Migraine... it says nothing about bad eyes anyway!
#19
matedodgy;8063280
Not so, energy saving light bulbs do not give off a clean enough light, especially for people with disabilities and sight loss. Let's not forget that energy saving bulbs are flourescent.


Yes.... and who (other than you) says this?.... most buildings are lit by fluorescent lights, and have been for decades - where is the problem....... which disabilities are these?

What is "clean light?"
If it is flicker you are talking about, then it's a long time since fluorescent lighting had the problem (unless it is in need of replacing!)
Funny how the same 50Hz flicker doesn't seem to get anyone shouting about their TV set!
#20
BaronGazz;8064105
To be honest, using an 'eco' light bulb 24/7 over a year is more detrimental to the environment than using a 'full fat' bulb for 1 second over a year. Yes, i know this is a massive exaggeration but it illustrates that just because you buy 'eco', doesnt mean you act 'eco' - it's all about the application.

50p a bulb seems a fair price to me if that's your bag.


Who is making a big deal about "eco" anything. That is merely a side benefit.

If you don't turn it on (is that the point you are making?), then you don't need it at all!

If you use a filament lamp it costs a lot more to run than a low energy lamp. They are even cheaper to buy!

Where's the bargain in buying something dearer that costs more to run?

The WHOLE issue is a tiny minority of older people cannot cope with change, whatever that change is. (There is nothing new in that) So, they dream up non-existent excuses to continue using filament lamps. Fine, if that's what they want to do, but they shouldn't be surprised when people shout out as they try to convince people with spurious drivel that there is a problem with Low Energy Lamps, as there is no problem, and with the slightest of changes they can be used to give BETTER lighting for less money.
#21
I don't believe I mentioned anything about not turning it on. The point was if someone for example uses a bulb that uses half the energy for three times as long then they have increased energy/cost/environmental damage despite using what is traditionally an 'eco' product - the use of the product can in many cases dictate the damage. I was merely attempting to add to the discussion in a more intelligent way than making claims such as "the WHOLE issue is a tiny minority of older people cannot cope with change". It is not the whole issue at all, and such generalisations don’t leave any room for discussion, just arguments.
With regards the light quality, I’ve had some fantastic bulbs (come up to full brightness quickly) and also some really bad ones (still produce a yellowy light after a long time). If people have had too many bad experiences, it’s no surprise that they are reluctant to change.
#22
tribalista
Let me know where you get your information about it being illegal, or if you just made it up, or dreamt it.

There was never a bad on using the bulbs, only a ban on manufacturing them (in the UK at least).There are probably millions of them still available which were produced before the ban....Though I may have made that up, or dreamt it.


There is no UK law banning the import, production or sale of incandescent lamps, no matter what the government may like to suggest. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/6143644/Defra-confirms-its-bulb-ban-is-not-legal.html
#23
nihcaj
Yes.... and who (other than you) says this?.... most buildings are lit by fluorescent lights, and have been for decades - where is the problem....... which disabilities are these?

What is "clean light?"
If it is flicker you are talking about, then it's a long time since fluorescent lighting had the problem (unless it is in need of replacing!)
Funny how the same 50Hz flicker doesn't seem to get anyone shouting about their TV set!


My partner has Ushers Syndrome and is partially sighted. Eco bulbs do not help her at all. She needs a cleaner brighter light that not even the best eco bulbs can provide.
#24
Eco bulbs have various drawbacks. For example, some take a while to warm up. If you have poor eyesight, you just have to wait for 5 minutes before you can enter a sufficiently lit room.
#25
'The Lighting Association denied that flicker was a problem with modern energy saving bulbs.'
Buy newer ones, not some unheard of make and you'll be fine
#26
matedodgy;8066275
My partner has Ushers Syndrome and is partially sighted. Eco bulbs do not help her at all. She needs a cleaner brighter light that not even the best eco bulbs can provide.


It just does not wash, and you are barking right up the totally wrong tree. You are dead wrong - it's not Tungsten filament lamps she needs, it is something a LOT better.

I am dead sure too that they don't help her - I would suggest that most of us would have difficulty with reading with either a 100W filament lamp, OR it's low energy replacement hence the need for better lighting, including simply MORE of it, and it is a lot cheaper to do it with low energy options!

Again... what is CLEAN light?

Bright?... how far do you want to go, far brighter light options exist in Low Enegy lamps that standard filament bulbs, in a vast wide choice of colour temperature.
(Colour temperature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_temperature some info here too http://www.sylvania.com/LearnLighting/LightAndColor/LightColorCharacteristicf/)

Oddly enough, older Low Energy Lamps were complained about because they were TOO bright! Newer ones are usually a warmer colour, but if you look there is a whole range available

If it is bright light she needs, then GLS filament bulbs are about the last thing to choose, a completely separate issue from the cost or the Green credentials; and in that case, odds on that it is HALOGEN lighting that is going to be FAR more suitable.

Don't listen to me though.... try the RNIB
http://www.rnib.org.uk/livingwithsightloss/athome/lighting/Pages/energy_efficient.aspx

or this advice:
http://www.mdsupport.org/library/lighting.html

I would still argue about the "immediate" warm up of Low Energy Lamps though... in many conditions the now only slightly slow warm up is beneficial and helps slow responding irises time to adjust from pitch black to lit. That will probably depend on the individual though.
#27
matedodgy;8066296
Eco bulbs have various drawbacks. For example, some take a while to warm up. If you have poor eyesight, you just have to wait for 5 minutes before you can enter a sufficiently lit room.


Not true. A gross over-exaggeration, if you want to talk sense fine, but that is just silly.
#28
nihcaj

odds on that it is HALOGEN lighting that is going to be FAR more suitable.



Halogens are being "banned" as well, but I'm sure you knew that.
#29
matedodgy
But it's your white goods and kettles that chew up the national grid not the bulbs.
[COLOR="Navy"]And I thought that it was all the videos, TVs and other electronic equipment left on standby, as well as all the mobile phone chargers permanently plugged into the wall.

Personally (and no matter what the tree huggers say) I hate eco bulbs. They take too long to get to full working brightness and even then they are not as bright as an incandescent bulb. I've no problem with using a product that will use less energy (and save me money), but it has to do the job. Eco bulbs simply don't.[/COLOR]
#30
VDisillusioned;8067053
Halogens are being "banned" as well, but I'm sure you knew that.


Yes, although not yet, and not just for energy reasons.

LEDs are good now, but they can get a LOT better, hopefully by then. There seems little to complain about with them too... although plenty will.
#31
BealBocht;8068010
[COLOR=Navy]I hate eco bulbs. They take too long to get to full working brightness and even then they are not as bright as an incandescent bulb. I've no problem with using a product that will use less energy (and save me money), but it has to do the job. Eco bulbs simply don't.[/COLOR]


Simply not true, but hey, why let reality get in the way of a good whinge?

They said the same things about GAS lighting when Electric lighting came in :whistling:
#32
nihcaj
Yes, although not yet, and not just for energy reasons.



Yes they are, starting from September 1st 2009 under the phased timetable of the EU Directive. http://www.qvsdirect.com/Guide-to-New-EU-Directive-on-Lamps-p-100.html
1 Like #33
BealBocht
[COLOR="Navy"]And I thought that it was all the videos, TVs and other electronic equipment left on standby, as well as all the mobile phone chargers permanently plugged into the wall.

Personally (and no matter what the tree huggers say) I hate eco bulbs. They take too long to get to full working brightness and even then they are not as bright as an incandescent bulb. I've no problem with using a product that will use less energy (and save me money), but it has to do the job. Eco bulbs simply don't.[/COLOR]


The drain on the national grid has nothing to do with any of those things, it's purely down to my wife's vibrator......... oops, I think I've scored an own goal.

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