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My first post after lurking for a while ;-)

This camcorder is priced from £700 to £860 everywhere else, so this seems like a steal!

I had to ring up customer services to find my closest stock, which was 45 miles away.

Great site, by the way! ;-)
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#1
That does seem really cheap for a Blu Ray camcorder. Have Blu Ray discs come down in price much yet?
banned#2
they are about £5 a pop aint they ?
banned#3
i rly dont like the idea of a spinning disc in something I am holding and moving around alot,
#4
Disc recorders limit the way you can edit your footage. They are however perfect for the odd kids video or in the garden etc.

Its a good price but I wouldnt buy one because of what I said above.
#5
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Not being a Camcorder geek, what is the benefit of Blu-ray in a camcorder over, say, a Hard disk based machine? OK, DVD is limited by it's size, but hard disks are WAY bigger, making the move to Blu-ray seem pointless.[/SIZE][/FONT]
#6
Well, the obvious benefit (of recording to a disc, over HDD), is that you can remove the BD and instantly play it in a BD player (I assume).

Extrapolate this forward a few years, when BD players are more common-place, and it makes sense.

However, if you are videoing the kids round Granny's house, and want to leave her with a BD disc before you leave, I can't imagine she's currently got a BD/PS3 on which to play the disc!!
#7
Blu rays on amazon and play still around £15 each but some sites doing them around £10 for slighly older ones.

If i had the dosh id get one. As the future is clearly blu now HDdvd have flopped.

But like that guy said cant play it at nannys, the camcorder will come with its own output, probly will include a scart type output so you will be able to play it there.
#8
Found a review for this camcorder, actually the version with the HDD, and it's not good at all http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Hitachi-DZ-BD7HA-Camcorder-Review-33581/Performance.htm
#9
MrLondon
Found a review for this camcorder, actually the version with the HDD, and it's not good at all http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Hitachi-DZ-BD7HA-Camcorder-Review-33581/Performance.htm

There’s a review at CNET which isn’t exactly glowing either; I think this is cheap for a reason. I’d rather buy the Panasonic HDC-SX5 that I posted yesterday. That’s not one of the best HD camcorders on the market by any means but it sounds better than this and it costs £328.
#10
Some of us are still trying to buy HD Tele's nevermind camcorders.
That's well pricey!!
#11
SpartanDavie

If i had the dosh id get one. As the future is clearly blu now HDdvd have flopped.

But like that guy said cant play it at nannys, the camcorder will come with its own output, probly will include a scart type output so you will be able to play it there.


Without wishing to get into a next gen HD format type conversation, i think the future (at least for camcorders) is flash (especially with large capacity sdhc cards). More and more tvs and dvd players already have an sd or usb connection so the ability to play from these formats is becoming more commonplace.

The advantage of flash based camcorders is the pure digital recording with no moving parts (hence better battery life, less interferance and smaller more compact camcorders)
#12
social lurker
Without wishing to get into a next gen HD format type conversation, i think the future (at least for camcorders) is flash (especially with large capacity sdhc cards). More and more tvs and dvd players already have an sd or usb connection so the ability to play from these formats is becoming more commonplace.
The advantage of flash based camcorders is the pure digital recording with no moving parts (hence better battery life, less interferance and smaller more compact camcorders)

I couldn’t agree more; give me flash or HDD but not optical discs.
These HD camcorders tend to have HDMI outputs which makes them easy to connect to a modern HD TV.
#13
Blu-ray has a theoretical limit of 200Gb, something that will probably be commonplace in a few years - flash and HDDs are perhaps not yet a realistic alternative to optical media.
#14
If we're talking theoretical limits - sdhc's limit is 2048gb which is quite alot really. Obv, that IS a long way off, but 32gb cards are available now and 8gb are here and cheap. The current limit for mini BD discs is 7.5gb (single layer), so I guess 15gb dual layer.

edit: And you'll get about an hour of 1080p recording onto a 4gb card.
#15
I dunno about you but I wish the ~4TB HVD format would hurry up and come out.
#16
I have a cheapo Aiptek flash based camcorder which records at 1280x720 30fps using h.264. You get 2 hours on a 4GB card. Yes, it is pretty well compressed but the results are surprisingly good. Especially for £179 (from Currys).
#17
HDV (MPEG2) is ~13GB/Hour whereas AVHCD (H.264) typically doesn’t consume more than 7.2GB/Hour; it can be more but currently that seems to be the maximum utilised.
Although H.264 is a more efficient Codec for HD video, when penalised by using roughly half the bandwidth of MPEG2 it can’t compete in quality. Currently the best quality HD camcorders typically use HDV and record to tape (gasp).
Blu-ray discs use multiple Codecs but in each case they use much higher bit rates to achieve noticeably better results than you will see with consumer camcorders. Blu-ray peaks at over 50Mbs which equates to over 22.5GB/Hour.
suspended#18
wait for 1yr+ for HD camcorders, they might be ok by then, at the moment they are **** and very expensive.
#19
hajj_3;1692749
wait for 1yr+ for HD camcorders, they might be ok by then, at the moment they are **** and very expensive.

Very insightful.
I think if you actually took the time to look at some of the work being produced with '****' HD Camcorders, especially HDV cams such as Canon's HV20, you might find that you are completely wrong. Infact more recent model releases and updates have shown a nasty trend in dumbing down for the consumer market.
You pay less, but you get less.
http://www.vimeo.com/hd is a good place to start.
This Hitachi is really **** though.
suspended#20
i have actually looked at lots of HD camcorders but they just arent very good yet, very low megapixel rated cmos sensors. I'd like a RED One camera but way too much ££. that shoots in 4k resolution 12mp cmos sensor 12bit colour.

until they can get higher rated cmos sensors 1080p hdd camcorders wont be very good.
#21
I can't believe you lot are so critical of something that most of you know little about....give him a bit of credit for his ideas...........................

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