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Deutsche Bahn have some regular cheap train ticket offers that they keep well hidden. They're intended for people in Germany, but can be booked in English in the UK and there's a UK callcentre.

London Spezial: London to anywhere in Germany from EUR49 one-way.
Take the Eurostar from London to Brussels, change to a German Inter City Express train to Cologne, then German trains after that. This includes German border stations like Salzburg and Basel Bad. First class from EUR99 each way.

Europa Spezial: Germany to Belgium/Netherlands/France/Austria/Poland/Switzerland/Luxembourg/Italy/Denmark/Croatia/Czech/Hungary/Slovenia/Slovakia from EUR29 one-way, or EUR49 in first class.

You can even put in two stopovers of up to 48 hours each for no extra cost! And they don't have to be on a direct route.



Prebooked trains only, book up to 90 days in advance. DB's site doesn't have a 'shopping basket' so they charge a EUR3.50 postage fee for each return journey (returns can start and finish in different places, for any number of people). So to book more tickets, either book on the phone (0871 8p/min) or pay postage for the first ticket into Germany then book the rest to collect from a German machine for free. Seat reservations on ICE trains cost EUR2 each, but aren't compulsory.

EDIT: For an English booking site, just click on 'Go to deal' to the right of this text.
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London Spezial link, as mangled from German by Google Translate. Click on 'Europe Special' for the European tickets.

There's a bit of a knack to booking these. You need to leave London on the 0834 or 1434 to Brussels (exact times vary by day of the week). The trick is getting yourself on a German ICE train from Brussels to the German border at Aachen/Cologne (and beyond), not a French Thalys (THA in the timetable planner). Then you should get a Savings Fares column appear in the planner giving the cheap fares. Once the planner has put you on an ICE into Germany you can extend the journey wherever you like within Germany.

You can use the two Vias the planner offers you to stopoff on the way or select particular routes. The vias can often be in outlandish places - for example Berlin-Hamburg (2 days)-Munich (2 days)-Zagreb is a Europa Spezial for EUR29. Sometimes you can avoid expensive trains by putting in 'Via' a place on another route, or via a route on a local train. It helps to have a good rail map of Germany.

On the way back you may have to tweak the 'Via' timing at Brussels so it puts you on an ICE from Cologne not a Thalys.

If it doesn't show fares for a journey, it probably means there's some leg not on German trains (the DB site has timetables for the whole of Europe and Russia as well - just for fun search for 'Wladiwostok' or Beijing).

If you want to go through Germany to another country, try booking your London Spezial to the nearest border station (or the nearest city to the border), and then a Europa Spezial from a station on the German side of the border onwards.

You can also use this to get cheap tickets on night trains, but you pay extra for berth or a couchette (sleeping bench).

Useful site for European train travel:
seat61.com
#2
Avoid the 0870 number, call 020 8339 4701
#3
That number from Saynoto0870 doesn't work - the 020 just hangs up, the 0845 plays a recorded message saying the number has changed to 0871.
#4
and £800 to come home lol
#5
Prunus
That number from Saynoto0870 doesn't work - the 020 just hangs up, the 0845 plays a recorded message saying the number has changed to 0871.


Didn't get the number from Saynoto0870, have used DB previously and that was the number at the time. Will see if I have an alternative.
#6
Prunus;5676329
There's a bit of a knack to booking these.
Ooh nice to know it's not just our train ticketing system which is about as logical and straightforward as the Bible...
#7
Added heat just for the Beijing train.
#8
@shonk :-)
It's EUR49 to come back too. The timings of ICE and Eurostar on the way back aren't quite optimised, so you may need to persuade the planner to give you a bit more time in Brussels so it doesn't put you on a later Thalys. Someone on another forum mentioned adding a 20 min 'via' time, though I haven't tried that.
#9
Prunus
@shonk :-)
It's EUR49 to come back too.


You do this isn't Twitter don't you?
#10
Heat added for this.
Looking for travel to Europa Park in October. I love the ICE Trains but doubt they'll have a cheap fare for me.
#11
Grrr. Can't get the translation pages working on the booking forms and I can't read German :(
#12
You should be able to do it in English... just start at http://www.bahn.co.uk/

If it's not fully translated, copy and paste the bits you need to know into Google Translate.
#13
Ich kann deutsch sprechen.
How can I help you? :o
#14
Coolashacka
Ich kann deutsch sprechen.
How can I help you? :o

That's very kind of you! I've been using Bable Fish and found (One way) London to Berlin on the 18th August for 198 euros. I think!

Bahnhof/Haltestelle Datum Uhrzeit Dauer Umstiege Produkte
London St. Pancras International
Berlin Hbf Di, 18.08.2009 08:34
19:08 10:34 2 EST, ICE

EINFACHE FAHRT, 2 Reisende (Alter: 42, 41 Jahre), 1. Klasse, London S Pancras Int - Berlin
London-Spezial
Zugbindung. Umtausch und Erstattung vor dem 1. Geltungstag 15 EUR, ab dem 1. Geltungstag ausgeschlossen.
Reservierungspflichtiger Zug enthalten (Preis inkl. Res.), Anschlussreservierung kostenpflichtig 198,00 EUR

Be a long day though ... might be worth it for a laugh!
#15
I think you got it right.
You're about to book two tickets, first class, from St. Pancras International to Berlin central station by Eurostar/ICE (German high speed train) for € 198
Then there's some talk about how you can give the ticket back or change before the day of departure (penalty: € 15) after the day of departure it's not possible anymore.
Hope you'll have fun in Germany :)

[edit]
I found it in English as well:
Valid only on booked train. Exchange and refund charge of EUR 15 before 1st day of validity, no exchanges or refunds as from 1st day of validity.
Train with reservation obligation included (Fare incl. Res.), Through reservation not free of charge
#16
We will! Love Berlin and have friends that live 10 minutes walk from the Olympic Stadium!

Thanks!
#17
I booked London-Salzburg in August for two people for EUR138 (plus postage and seat reservations) with a bit of jiggling of connections. Takes literally all day on the train :)
If I'd had more time, I would have spent a couple of days in two places on the way (it was quoting the same fare via Hamburg!).
#18
wow really hoping i can use this when i go to Aachen for the christmas markets this year!
would be awesome
#19
I tried this for Munich in August

Firstly no problems with translation the DB site has a language select link by the little german flag at the top of their homepage.

However whilst I can get to Munich for 49 Euros on EST and ICE it refuses to quote me any fares for an inclusive return! RyanAir computerised marketing model being used I think!
#20
We travelled from London St Pancras to Berlin on 21 May 2009, returning 27 May 2009. I booked at [url]www.bahn.co.uk[/url] and the total cost was 243.50 Euro (tickets 236 Euro, reservations 4 Euro, postage 3.50 Euro) travelling on the 08.34 Eurostar to Brussels, ICE to Cologne and then ICE to Berlin and the same in reverse coming back. The outbound fares were 2 x €49 and the inbound 2 x €69 travelling 2nd class and we booked about 3 months in advance.

We had no problems at all.
#21
Used to live in Germany, ICE train is really something else, especially if you get one of the new ones.

Onboard wi-fi that actually works,m reclining seats, room for ski storage, and once hit 220mph on the way from Munchen to Mannheim.

Only downside is if you ask a German what time the ICE train leaves they have no idea what you are on about, it's the I.C.E over there.

Moved to Belgium afterwards and the ICE used to run right past the bottom of our garden and due to it running on electric was actually pretty quiet.

Top trains, running like clockwork like only the Germans can, only if they are late they are normally REALLY late, remember standing at Frankfurt hauptbahnhof once and a train to Munchen was on the board as over 3 hours late.

Oh and the platforms also tell you which trains pull in where so you can stand in the right section for your carriage rather than trying to spot the coach number when it pulls in and legging it to the other end of the platform.

kassy2005
wow really hoping i can use this when i go to Aachen for the christmas markets this year!
would be awesome


Should try Nürnberg, truely amazing market.
#22
Leadbeter
I tried this for Munich in August
However whilst I can get to Munich for 49 Euros on EST and ICE it refuses to quote me any fares for an inclusive return! RyanAir computerised marketing model being used I think!


Post your dates/times and I'll see if I can jiggle it.
#23
Prunus
Post your dates/times and I'll see if I can jiggle it.


Dep 13th or 14th
Ret 19th or 20th

No overnight - 2 changes max.
#24
ms2005

Onboard wi-fi that actually works,m reclining seats, room for ski storage, and once hit 220mph on the way from Munchen to Mannheim

.


I have never had a problem with WiFi on Nat Ex east coast or Virgin West coast!?

The digital speedos in the carriages on ICE's are in KPH I thought that even ICE 3 trains( Siemens Velaro) were limited to 300 KPH (187.5 MPH) except on a stretch of TGV track in France where they can go up to 320KPH (200MPH) on a cross border service?
#25
I'm trying to get a week away in Salzburg from London in december but I am unable to find suitable matching dates. Any ideas anyone please?
#26
It seems the DB site won't mix and match different tickets (eg first/second class), so it might be a good idea to book each leg separately.

I can find a single ticket Munchen-London in first class for EUR99. But you might not like it:

München Hbf Th, 20.08.09 dep 03:17 19 ICE 616 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Köln Hbf Th, 20.08.09 arr 08:05 5
Köln Hbf Th, 20.08.09 dep 08:44 5 D-F ICE 16 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 20.08.09 arr 10:35
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 20.08.09 dep 10:35 transfer 24 min. Please observe check-in times
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar Th, 20.08.09 arr 10:59
Bruxelles-Midi EST Th, 20.08.09 dep 11:29 EST 9181 EUROSTAR
Subject to compulsory reservation, Special ticket or supplement required, Please observe check-in times, Non-smoker train, Bistro Cafe
London St. Pancras International Th, 20.08.09 arr 12:26

Forcing via Stutgart on the return I can do this for EUR159 one-way (2nd class):

München Hbf Th, 20.08.09 dep 09:23 12 ICE 610 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Köln Hbf Th, 20.08.09 arr 14:05 5
Köln Hbf Th, 20.08.09 dep 14:44 5 E-F ICE 14 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 20.08.09 arr 16:35
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 20.08.09 dep 16:35 transfer 24 min. Please observe check-in times
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar Th, 20.08.09 arr 16:59
Bruxelles-Midi EST Th, 20.08.09 dep 16:59 EST 9149 EUROSTAR
Subject to compulsory reservation, Special ticket or supplement required, Please observe check-in times, Non-smoker train, Bistro Cafe
London St. Pancras International Th, 20.08.09

Ah, here you are, for EUR89 2nd class:

München Hbf We, 19.08.09 dep 07:23 14 ICE 612 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Frankfurt(M) Flughafen Fernbf We, 19.08.09 arr 11:06 Fern 6
Frankfurt(M) Flughafen Fernbf We, 19.08.09 walk 15 min. walking distance 300 m
Frankfurt(M) Flughafen Regionalbf We, 19.08.09
Frankfurt(M) Flughafen Regionalbf We, 19.08.09 dep 11:23 Regio 3 RE 4364 Regional-Express
Number of bicycles conveyed limited, air conditioning
Koblenz Hbf We, 19.08.09 arr 12:52 1
Koblenz Hbf We, 19.08.09 dep 13:12 3 IC 2024 Intercity
Bicycles conveyed - subject to reservation, Number of bicycles conveyed limited, Bordrestaurant
Köln Hbf We, 19.08.09 arr 14:05 4
Köln Hbf We, 19.08.09 dep 14:44 5 E-F ICE 14 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Bruxelles-Midi We, 19.08.09 arr 16:35
Bruxelles-Midi We, 19.08.09 dep 16:35 transfer 24 min. Please observe check-in times
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar We, 19.08.09 arr 16:59
Bruxelles-Midi EST We, 19.08.09 dep 16:59 EST 9149 EUROSTAR
Subject to compulsory reservation, Special ticket or supplement required, Please observe check-in times, Non-smoker train, Bistro Cafe
London St. Pancras International We, 19.08.09

The magic via was 'Bingen'. That's four changes not two, but you can't have everything. It looks like the bottleneck is the ICE around Frankfurt: if you can convince it to put you on a lower class of train (IC or RE) then it'll find some tickets.

Outbound was a bit trickier - everything was coming up at EUR179. Then I found this for EUR89:

London St. Pancras International Th, 13.08.09 dep 08:34 EST 9120 EUROSTAR
Subject to compulsory reservation, Special ticket or supplement required, Please observe check-in times, Non-smoker train, Bistro Cafe
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar Th, 13.08.09 arr 11:29
Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar Th, 13.08.09 dep 11:29 transfer 18 min.
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 13.08.09 arr 11:47
Bruxelles-Midi Th, 13.08.09 dep 12:18 ICE 15 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
Aachen Hbf Th, 13.08.09 arr 13:36 9
Aachen Hbf Th, 13.08.09 dep 14:51 3 a/b RE 10127 Regional-Express
Number of bicycles conveyed limited
Köln Hbf Th, 13.08.09 arr 15:44 4
Köln Hbf Th, 13.08.09 dep 15:53 7 IC 2327 Intercity
Bicycles conveyed - subject to reservation, Number of bicycles conveyed limited, Bordrestaurant
Nürnberg Hbf Th, 13.08.09 arr 20:28 12
Nürnberg Hbf Th, 13.08.09 dep 22:02 8 ICE 729 Intercity-Express
Bordbistro
München Hbf Th, 13.08.09 arr 23:07 19

That's with vias of an hour in Aachen and an hour in Nuremburg. Again 4 changes.

It's a bit tedious that you have to do some of the routing for it, but I just took a rail map of Germany and put in random places until it worked.
#27
Jimmy1978
I'm trying to get a week away in Salzburg from London in december but I am unable to find suitable matching dates. Any ideas anyone please?


They probably haven't opened the booking yet. You can only book 90 days (or maybe a bit more) in advance. So make a note in your diary to book closer to the date.

(A bit useless I know, 'cos Ryanair and friends will probably have jacked up their fares by then so you have to take a risk)
#28
I've used this special many times over the the last 2 years but only on the route to Köln (Cologne). This seems to be the cheapest route to Germany. I've never used it to go further and I've always managed to get the special price of 49 Euros to Köln by being flexible by one or two days . It seems the cheap fares going to Germany are on the 8:34 or 14:34 Departure from London. Coming back 2 cheap fares on the 8:44 and 14:44.

From past experience I have had only one delay and that was coming back where the train was cancelled in Germany (unheard of normally!). My ticket was therefore valid to travel on the next train which was a Thalys (not as nice). This caused me to miss my Eurostar connection but my ticket was changed in Belgium by Eurostar and I continued on the next train. No hassle at all. Apart from being late into London.

Great trains and price. heat from me.
banned#29
Hi,

If any one wants accommodation- our B and B and apartments are only 45 mins away from Salzburg!!.

i have been looking to get back to the UK in the summer but 12 hours on a train with a 1 ,7 and 9 year old is probably not good. I will have to keep looking at ryanair!!
#30
Oh yes, another tip... if you buy all your tickets at once from the same place you're protected under the CIV international conditions of carriage. So if one train is late (yes, even in Beijing!) the railways must put you on the next connection(s) to your destination. Even if that takes a completely different route (in theory, anyway).

Usually Eurostar are quite good at honouring tickets where a train has been late, but sometimes British train companies can be difficult. However there's a special CIV ticket for the UK... you buy your ticket from whereever you are in the UK to 'London International CIV' and it's covered. These tickets are valid for 2 months, and are about the same price as an Off-Peak Return but usually valid at peak times on UK trains.

See this useful guide:
http://www.seat61.com/UKconnections.htm
banned#31
heat added, eurostar need to get their act together and offer CHEAP through tickets on their site too....
#32
I would like to take a train from Prague to Budapest, then to Bucharest and finally to Vienna.
Does anyone know of a cheap way? I am a student.
#33
You should take a look at the InterRail ticket:
http://www.bahn.de/international/view/en/prices/europe/interrail.shtml
#34
tuifly are doin 2 4 1 flights to germany colgone-bonn from manchester and from manchester to stuttgart from £19.99..... might be nice travelling through on train, but quicker by plane.
#35
hunkysanj
I would like to take a train from Prague to Budapest, then to Bucharest and finally to Vienna.
Does anyone know of a cheap way? I am a student.


You shouldn't be concerned about the prices. The train between bratislava and budapest for instance costs 15 euros. And the train comes all the way from prague. so it shouldn't be that expensive. But google it and you'll find it I'm sure.
#36
hunkysanj
I would like to take a train from Prague to Budapest, then to Bucharest and finally to Vienna.
Does anyone know of a cheap way? I am a student.


You can often get cheaper tickets if you're aged 16-25 (student or not, doesn't matter).

Try having a look at the national rail companies' websites - you may be able to book online. Always try checking a fare from both countries - sometimes can be cheaper to book from one end not the other. seat61.com might have some other useful tips.

For standard-rate fares across Europe (usually can be beaten with 16-25 discount, special offers or booking locally, but supplements on top for fast trains), try http://www.jizdenka.cz/ (but they don't sell). Click on the Union flag to switch to English then 'International Tariff Calculator' (otherwise it does local Czech fares)

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