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been looking for a entry level road bike,this is still 600 quid in my lbs
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thanks ,first post,newbie to this
#3
wow. cheap. I've gone for a btwin triban 5A at 429 quid plus swapping wheels for aksiums at 144 quid. wonder which is better?
1 Like #4
fantastic frame, same as the defy 3 and 2 as well. carbon fork. yes better than a triban (which itself is great, the red 3 is an utter bargain!), aksiums are a marginal upgrade, not a whole step up upgrade, and the defy frame will be a keeper after a few thousand mikes when the sora set wear out and you replace it with a 105 setup! bikeradar really rates the frame on the defy and its the same one on their £800+ bikes.
#5
I agree with Seraphim3000, the frame on this bike is excellent. Heat added.
#6
its quite a bit heavier than a triban 5a. giant is 10.7kilos at 449 quid vs triban 5a at 9.9 kilos at 429 quid. the triban also has one step up gears with shimano Sora, whereas the giant had absolute bottom of the range shimano 2300. with aksiums I would think the triban will be less than 9.5kilos all in. if not, closet to 9 kilos.
1 Like #7
Blooming heck no "I could buy a car for that"
1 Like #8
tazo101
Blooming heck no "I could buy a car for that"

Oh, go on, post a piccie. please!
#9
Planet X full carbon and all ultegra for an extra £400 +full Yorkshire know how
#10
I have a Cannondale Synapse Tiagra (2009) that's stock aside from having converted it to flat handlebars. Would this be an upgrade?

Sorry to ask such a noobish question, but I really know so little about bikes that I can't compare between them.
#11
Seraphim3000
fantastic frame, same as the defy 3 and 2 as well. carbon fork. yes better than a triban (which itself is great, the red 3 is an utter bargain!), aksiums are a marginal upgrade, not a whole step up upgrade, and the defy frame will be a keeper after a few thousand mikes when the sora set wear out and you replace it with a 105 setup! bikeradar really rates the frame on the defy and its the same one on their £800+ bikes.


LOL

Do you realise what that comment looks like to someone (me) who knows nothing about bikes?
#12
translation... great frame which leaves you open to upgrade it as parts wear out and make it a much better bike in the future. it can be upgraded to the equivalent of ones double the price, because the frame is so good. at least that's what i took from it. im not expert either. i don't know nothing but i don't know a whole lot either. :P

I've got a Triban 3 and loving it, this does look awesome too though.
#13
pcplod
tazo101
Blooming heck no "I could buy a car for that"
Oh, go on, post a piccie. please!

taz is referring to the fact we always get "I could by a car..." post from a couple of tedious trolls who obviously haven't got over not getting a bike for christmas as a kid...

If he'd used a comma "blooming heck, no..." it might have read differently?
#14
tazo101
Planet X full carbon and all ultegra for an extra £400 +full Yorkshire know how

I can see one for £550 more, where's the one for £400 more?
#15
crashtestmonkey
pcplod
tazo101
Blooming heck no "I could buy a car for that"
Oh, go on, post a piccie. please!

taz is referring to the fact we always get "I could by a car..." post from a couple of tedious trolls who obviously haven't got over not getting a bike for christmas as a kid...

If he'd used a comma "blooming heck, no..." it might have read differently?
its not that. its just that a
these people have no interest in cycling so they see anything over £100 for a bike a rip off. same as many would say about a £600 coffee machine when a kettle is £5. each to their own and if you like something then why not spend more on something making it a better experience. currently have my triban 3 and loving it.
#16
Thanks OP. Heat.
#17
Wish I had a spare £450 as this would be ideal for me for just occasional use
#18
The Giant Defy 2 is reduced to £599 on the site which has a few upgrades over the 4, including Tiagra gears.
#19
This is an award winning defy for the price of a Halfords bike, no brainer entry level bike worthy of your first 4000 miles before buying 1500 quid carbon.
#20
Sorry, my northern maths.
£999 -£449= £550 extra.
Getting a full carbon plus decent spec Ultegra that wont need upgrading, er as often. ( but you will when you catch the bug)

Sad fact about snobby **** roadies, is once your in its difficult not to spend and save 2g here and 30g there. You will get the Defy then 6 months in you will see that fat bloke going uphill quicker than you and want to play catch up.

Planet x still got some of these in which are an absolute steal. R3 reduced from £250
#21
Thanks to the OP for the post , this looks like an amazing deal and i'm sorely tempted.

Sorry to hijack the thread but would someone be able to give me some pointers on road bikes, i've just recently started riding mine again (purchased 2nd hand a few years back), my bike has a shimano 600 groupset with 14 gears - i would like a to have a "higher" top gear, in that even in top it's still fairly easy to pedal and also some more lower ratios in that going up hill its still hard in the lowest gear!
- would the the likes of the giant in this deal have more gears? with better ratios.

Also i'm 6ft 1" and 13 stone, i find my current 57cm frame to be abit compact , i feel like i'm hunched over it to much, so on that basis would i need an L or an XL for the giant? I looked on the link but couldn't see any size references.

Many thanks for any help and thanks again to the OP
#22
2300 and sora are not good options if you want to cycle with groups/clubs. on the flat the 9 speed doesn't have sufficient gears to keep pace with cyclists who have 10 speed (tiagra upwards).

the frame is really good, and i agree that you could upgrade components in the future. however, the cost of replacing cassette, chain, front mech (9 speed is thicker than 10 speed), shifters and front and rear derailleurs (not sure the latter two are necessary) is more expensive than spending a couple hundred quid extra now (plus fitting and setting up the components yourself or paying a bike shop to do it).

as for wear and tear, a well looked after bike doing thousands of miles a year does not deteriorate that quickly. You should get at least 3 or 4 years before you need to replace the cassette and front mech. the shifters need never be replaced unless they're damaged. it's also worth considering that if you're still cycling in 3 or 4 years time, you may be taking it more seriously and want to upgrade the whole bike (for example full carbon with ultegra or dura ace).
#23
frazman


1. Sorry to hijack the thread but would someone be able to give me some pointers on road bikes, i've just recently started riding mine again (purchased 2nd hand a few years back), my bike has a shimano 600 groupset with 14 gears - i would like a to have a "higher" top gear, in that even in top it's still fairly easy to pedal and also some more lower ratios in that going up hill its still hard in the lowest gear!
- would the the likes of the giant in this deal have more gears? with better ratios.

2. Also i'm 6ft 1" and 13 stone, i find my current 57cm frame to be abit compact , i feel like i'm hunched over it to much, so on that basis would i need an L or an XL for the giant? I looked on the link but couldn't see any size references.

Hi Frazman

In answer to your questions:

1. These bikes will make cycling up those climbs easier as you have more gears to drop down to when it gets tough. However, steep and long climbs are never easy, you just get quicker the more you do them :p

2. the best advice you can get is from your local bike shop (but not halfords). they will size you up, allow you to test ride suitable bikes, set up your bike to your dimensions (some bike shops are better than others at this), and you will receive the first service free. if anything goes wrong with the bike, you need to make some minor adjustments or you need extra advice, they are a short distance away. you don't get any of this with online bike sales. most bike shops will price match online prices so always worth trying. even if they don't, consider how much value for money the extra £50-£100 for better customer service is. there are so many times i have had to help friends new to cycling set up their bikes correctly because they were bought online. any good cyclist will tell you it is such an important and often overlooked element that can have a significant impact on your enjoyment of cycling.

Edited By: llywmog on Sep 07, 2013 12:54
1 Like #24
Judosteffer
its quite a bit heavier than a triban 5a. giant is 10.7kilos at 449 quid vs triban 5a at 9.9 kilos at 429 quid. the triban also has one step up gears with shimano Sora, whereas the giant had absolute bottom of the range shimano 2300. with aksiums I would think the triban will be less than 9.5kilos all in. if not, closet to 9 kilos.

Ironically the heavier the bike, the lighter the rider !
#25
llywmog
2300 and sora are not good options if you want to cycle with groups/clubs. on the flat the 9 speed doesn't have sufficient gears to keep pace with cyclists who have 10 speed (tiagra upwards).

the frame is really good, and i agree that you could upgrade components in the future. however, the cost of replacing cassette, chain, front mech (9 speed is thicker than 10 speed), shifters and front and rear derailleurs (not sure the latter two are necessary) is more expensive than spending a couple hundred quid extra now (plus fitting and setting up the components yourself or paying a bike shop to do it).

as for wear and tear, a well looked after bike doing thousands of miles a year does not deteriorate that quickly. You should get at least 3 or 4 years before you need to replace the cassette and front mech. the shifters need never be replaced unless they're damaged. it's also worth considering that if you're still cycling in 3 or 4 years time, you may be taking it more seriously and want to upgrade the whole bike (for example full carbon with ultegra or dura ace).

Really, so Bradley Wiggins would struggle on this bike against Joe Bloggs on a £2k carbon job ? A kilo and a few different gears will make a tiny difference, its not about the bike .
#26
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.
#27
Mcall_r
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.

Ask your HR department if they participate in the cycle to work scheme, your £500 bike will cost you less than £300 over the year, you probably wouldn't miss it coming out of your gross pay.

You need to look at the surfaces you will be traveling on, if there are alot of potholes and rough surfaces a hybrid might be better.
#28
tazo101
Planet X full carbon and all ultegra for an extra £400 +full Yorkshire know how

Not being picky, but it's not all Ultegra groupset - as with most road bikes now (not just planet x) they give you most of the grouper but substitute the chainsaw and brakes for cheap variants. In this case they are pretty cheap!

Edited By: matty9815 on Sep 07, 2013 17:33
#29
justthinking
Mcall_r
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.

Ask your HR department if they participate in the cycle to work scheme, your £500 bike will cost you less than £300 over the year, you probably wouldn't miss it coming out of your gross pay.

You need to look at the surfaces you will be traveling on, if there are alot of potholes and rough surfaces a hybrid might be better.



They don't participate, it's only a small company of 75 employees I work for - they used to do it but don't anymore (not sure why because I had a look on the c2w site and it seems there's no downfall to employers?)

Well Glasgow is full of potholes but I'm sure they would be avoidable, however there may be a few kerbs I'd need to cross to get in the cycle lanes. I used to have a Giant mountain bike but it was a nightmare driving on the road with the 3 inch wide tyres lol.

What's the differences of a hybrid compared to this? Sorry for the noobness
#30
Mcall_r
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.

I have a Carrera Vanquish 2009/10 black and red model, from ebay they're peanuts, same spec as the triban3 (red). Note new halfords are more £ and less well specified!

snobs will sneer at the Halfords brand (and set up by H they are not great, find a good local bike shop, it will make a difference!) BUT. The OLD Halfords frames are made by Merida (900 series I believe), just painted Halford 'colours'. Tiagra Shifters, Carbon fork, braze ons for a rack etc and Shimano reasonable, TOUGH, but not super light wheels. If i decide to upgrade, it will owe me diddly squat, and is a really nice bike to ride!

And it 'only' has 18 gear ratios (2 front 9 back) and I can quite easily keep up with the MAMIL I share the route with on his £900 cannondale, and I am a fat idle sack of p**!

Don't buy a ferrari when you first pass your test, but something usable instead! 'pro's (and those who believe they are!) will always believe £££ buys ability. Just get out on a decent 'basic' bike like the triban and enjoy yourself!

Side note, it really IS worth getting decent shifters from the get go (have you seen the cost of replacements?!?!?!) with those paddles instead of the little side buttons as the reviewers are all right, it's a pain in the bum changing down gears when in the drop handlebar position! Brand new Sora or older Tiagra upwards are your friend here.
#31
Isn't this BeOne roadie better value for money with sora groupset ? Voted hot btw, always liked giant.
#32
Mcall_r
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.

I would go for a single speed over a fixed gear bike for that distance and the fact you don't have any hills, maybe a couple of wee bumps in the road :-)

I live in East Kilbride but work in Glasgow and I commute using a single speed, keep my road bike for long weekend bike runs.
#33
buckfast67uk
Wish I had a spare £450 as this would be ideal for me for just occasional use

If you gonna buy a bike and then leave it in the shed unused, a Tesco BSO will do the job just as well for a lot less money.
#34
kramer2088

Really, so Bradley Wiggins would struggle on this bike against Joe Bloggs on a £2k carbon job ? A kilo and a few different gears will make a tiny difference, its not about the bike .

you're describing extremes which are unhelpful. neither did i mention frames or weights. i was referring to cyclists of a similar level. it was meant as helpful advice. i understand that it was only my opinion, and accept that others may have differing opinions which are equally as valid.

however, some sora groupsets come with 13-26 or 13-23. this means that the rider will have to pedal at a higher cadence on 13 teeth in order to keep up with a rider of SIMILAR ability who can cycle at a lower cadence using 11. on climbs, the rider with 23 or 26 teeth will have to grind up a steep hill when a SIMILAR rider could drop to 28 teeth making the climb easier. i have ridden with people who have bought 2013 sora bikes and they are already considering the upgrade because of this difficulty.

the cassette on the giant defy is reasonably ok as it has 11-28. unfortunately, this means there will be big jumps between the gears in the middle of the cassette (a jump from easy to hard with less incremental stages). so whilst not being a disaster, it isn't ideal.
#35
Mcall_r
Can someone tell me what would be better between this and a carerra from Halfords for the same price? I'm looking for a bike that I can use for going to and from my flat in Partick and my work in Glasgow City Centre (about 5-6 miles a day return). Don't really want to spend much more than £500 and want the option to pay up over 6 months.
This is NOT the bike for that commute. Traffic lights every 20 metres, buses wanting you out their lanes, pot holes everywhere. Best off with a cheapo 2nd hand hybrid and see how you get on. Decathlon at the fort still selling red triban 3 if you really want to look fast !

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