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Intel Celeron N2807
VGA and HDMI Outputs
1 x USB 3.0
Memory, 2.5inch Drive and OS to complete

Price now showing as £85.98 (Got mine when Maplin had it a £84.95)
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#1
Good deal, add and SSD and 4GB of memory and is would make a good media server.
1 Like #2
I have one of these. The power draw is stupidly low- I have lightbulbs that burn through more 'leccy.
#3
Great device. It'll easily do 1080p vids, Steam in home streaming and run a few different operating systems (Linux, Android & Windows). It's missing the IR sensor that the Intel NUC's have, but I've not found that to be a problem at all. Nothing that a bluetooth controller wouldn't solve. Personally I use this mini keyboard + touchpad when I have the Brix connected to a TV and that works amazingly well.

A BIOS update was released in November.


Edited By: soza on Jan 07, 2015 16:44
#4
Stick a vertical skin on Kodi (xbmc) which is much faster & better than chasing hotspots on default horizontal skins & get an IR usb remote under £3:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=usb+remote&rt=nc&LH_BIN=1
#5
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

Also, has anyone ever put an msata SSD in the msata slot (think it has a wifi card in it at first)?
#6
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

Also, has anyone ever put an msata SSD in the msata slot (think it has a wifi card in it at first)?

Course it can handle YouTube.
#7
rev6
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

Also, has anyone ever put an msata SSD in the msata slot (think it has a wifi card in it at first)?

Course it can handle YouTube.

I was referring specifically 1080p videos which put low specced PCs under a bit of strain. I have an old Acer Revo that struggles with HD Youtube.

Edited By: hurley31 on Jan 08, 2015 01:30: spelling
#8
hurley31
rev6
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

Also, has anyone ever put an msata SSD in the msata slot (think it has a wifi card in it at first)?

Course it can handle YouTube.

I as referring specifically 1080p videos which put low specced PCs under a bit of strain. I have an old Acer Revo that struggles with HD Youtube.

It should have no issues playing 1080p videos from YouTube.
#9
Thanks.
#10
How would this do as a Plex Server streaming 1080p files to multiple clients? And also how would this be at being a Steam in home streaming server, is it good enough for decent quality gaming to stream from?
#11
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

oO
#12
It's not an mSata slot, it's PCI, or at least my one is. They look the same but aren't interchangeable as far as I know.
#13
do people think this could handle some basic photoshop and illustrator work, with an SSD installed and 4GB of RAM?

Ive got a 1st gen i5 laptop with 4GB of RAM and that handles those apps easily, so im expecting this would as the celerons are good chips these days?
#14
Does this bitstream dts-hd / dolby hd?
#15
bargain!
#16
Coming up at £86 for me. I have a minix andriod box at the moment, is this going to be any better?. I mainly use XBMC
#17
VooDooChilly
How would this do as a Plex Server streaming 1080p files to multiple clients? And also how would this be at being a Steam in home streaming server, is it good enough for decent quality gaming to stream from?

Would work ok as a Plex server, but not streaming to multiple clients. I have a similar spec machine that can stream 1080p files ok, but i'm only streaming to one client at a time.
Doubt it would be much use as a Steam server, as i'm sure Steam recommend the 'server' has a quad core cpu. Most pc games also require a dedicated graphics card, which you couldn't install in this wee box,
#18
I wonder if this would function well as a torrent/usenet box; my raspberry pi is far too slow.
#19
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

oO

Problem?
#20
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

oO

Problem?

Why wouldn't it handle Youtube?
#21
m5rcc
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

oO

Problem?

Why wouldn't it handle Youtube?

because like he said, some of the slightly older nettop PCs did struggle playing 1080p videos from youtube, i experienced it too with a revo
1 Like #22
m5rcc
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?

oO

Problem?

Why wouldn't it handle Youtube?

As I've said, specifically 1080p Youtube. It has been known to put low spec PCs under strain, the equivalent Intel NUC can't handle 1080p YT through a browser in Windows, there is a big thread on it over on the Intel forum. How YT performs through an add on in something like XBMC (which is what most people use these type of devices for) isn't the same as through a browser/Windows. I asked because this was going to be my main PC so I wanted to be sure it could handle basic browsing tasks.
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hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?
oO
Problem?
Why wouldn't it handle Youtube?
As I've said, specifically 1080p Youtube. It has been known to put low spec PCs under strain, the equivalent Intel NUC can't handle 1080p YT through a browser in Windows, there is a big thread on it over on the Intel forum. How YT performs through an add on in something like XBMC (which is what most people use these type of devices for) isn't the same as through a browser/Windows. I asked because this was going to be my main PC so I wanted to be sure it could handle basic browsing tasks.

I have the celeron intel NUC, Youtube through chrome struggles, but through XBMC and Plex its perfect. I'd imagine this would be the same.
#24
Max-Power
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
m5rcc
hurley31
Could this handle 1080p Youtube videos with Windows installed on it?
oO
Problem?
Why wouldn't it handle Youtube?
As I've said, specifically 1080p Youtube. It has been known to put low spec PCs under strain, the equivalent Intel NUC can't handle 1080p YT through a browser in Windows, there is a big thread on it over on the Intel forum. How YT performs through an add on in something like XBMC (which is what most people use these type of devices for) isn't the same as through a browser/Windows. I asked because this was going to be my main PC so I wanted to be sure it could handle basic browsing tasks.

I have the celeron intel NUC, Youtube through chrome struggles, but through XBMC and Plex its perfect. I'd imagine this would be the same.

Yeah I thought as much. I went for it anyway as it has a fan, metal case and 3 year warranty. Seems overall more robust than the Gigabyte, no HD Youtube isn't the end of the world.

I read somewhere that the Pale Moon borwser is handy with this, might give that a go.
#25
Got one of these in a simillar deal a while ago (not from eBuyer though... I bloody hate eBuyer...) to replace a valiant but aging Acer Revo.

One note - if you buy memory make sure you get the low voltage stuff (1.35v). I almost got caught out but double checked just before I hit buy.

Works well as a media centre - I have Openelec (a minimalist Linux/XBMC distro) which does the job, boots quickly and has a small memory footprint (so you can save on RAM) but does not support the internal WiFi / Bluetooth card (yet) so you might need to use a different distro (or Windows) if these are important to you.

Almost silent as well.
1 Like #26
I've got this box running Openelec/XBMC from a USB stick.

It's superb - handles any codec thrown at it, with no slowdowns. Also it supports all the refresh rates (24hz included). The only slowness comes from me running it from a rubbish USB stick.

A couple of issues:
1. You must update the BIOS - nothing worked in Linux before then (no idea about Windows)
2. Sometimes a reboot goes to the UEFI shell. No idea why - I just ctrl-alt-del and it comes back up next time. This seems to be a problem with most BIOS' off these chipsets (it was the same with the beta hardware at work)

Highly recommended for a silent XBMC box in the lounge, as long as you're running Openelec.
#27
This model does struggle occasionally with 1080p YouTube, but only when multitasking. Example: Word, Spotify, TeamViewer and Chrome open = liable to stutter. Running Chrome by itself has never caused any problems. Same with VLC etc.

Have been using this model for a month and a more expensive Brix for a year or so - the more expensive one easily replaces a full tower PC and never visibly struggles with anything (total cost was around £250).
1 Like #29
albeen
This model does struggle occasionally with 1080p YouTube

I suspect this is very much dependant on OS, driver, memory and browser.

For example, 1080p YouTube clips in Openelec seem to work well. I suspect you might struggle with the same clips played on Windows in Chrome.


Simillar performance - processor on the MSI is slightly more powerful but requires more power and runs hotter (hence more cooling needed - some people comlain about the fan noise on these). So, would depend on use for me - I would prefer cooler and quiter for a media centre but the extra horsepower might be useful under other circumstances.

Edited By: me_lee on Jan 21, 2015 17:59
#30
me_lee
albeen
This model does struggle occasionally with 1080p YouTube

I suspect this is very much dependant on OS, driver, memory and browser.

For example, 1080p YouTube clips in Openelec seem to work well. I suspect you might struggle with the same clips played on Windows in Chrome.


Simillar performance - processor on the MSI is slightly more powerful but requires more power and runs hotter (hence more cooling needed - some people comlain about the fan noise on these). So, would depend on use for me - I would prefer cooler and quiter for a media centre but the extra horsepower might be useful under other circumstances.

The 1037u in the MSI posts almost twice the Passmark score of the N2807 in the Brix. Although slightly below the published requirement from Plex, the MSI would probably cope with transcoding a single high bit rate FHD stream,if you wanted to use it as a Plex server. the Brix won't. I built a 1037u Brix for my daughter, its actually not a bad CPU for general/light duties.
#31
bytemaster
me_lee
albeen
This model does struggle occasionally with 1080p YouTube
I suspect this is very much dependant on OS, driver, memory and browser.
For example, 1080p YouTube clips in Openelec seem to work well. I suspect you might struggle with the same clips played on Windows in Chrome.Simillar performance - processor on the MSI is slightly more powerful but requires more power and runs hotter (hence more cooling needed - some people comlain about the fan noise on these). So, would depend on use for me - I would prefer cooler and quiter for a media centre but the extra horsepower might be useful under other circumstances.
The 1037u in the MSI posts almost twice the Passmark score of the N2807 in the Brix. Although slightly below the published requirement from Plex, the MSI would probably cope with transcoding a single high bit rate FHD stream,if you wanted to use it as a Plex server. the Brix won't. I built a 1037u Brix for my daughter, its actually not a bad CPU for general/light duties.

I used this for comparison which suggests performance is a lot closer but, as I said, which one you choose should be based on your intended use.

There was a previous thread on here from a few months ago where a guy had Plex running doing some transcoding on a Brix 2807 machine. I have it running on a much less powerful machine than the 2807. Plex will run fine on just about anything as long as it direct streams and doesn't have to do any transcoding - that's when it gets complicated and you really want a bit of headroom as different streams being converted to different qualities will require differing amounts of processor power in order to work successfully.
#32
hurley31

Yeah I thought as much. I went for it anyway as it has a fan, metal case and 3 year warranty. Seems overall more robust than the Gigabyte, no HD Youtube isn't the end of the world.
I read somewhere that the Pale Moon borwser is handy with this, might give that a go.
I might give that a go then, ta. I like to watch the odd BBC article video too which would be nice to have silky smooth like in the media players :)

Edited By: Max-Power on Jan 22, 2015 09:14
2 Likes #33
Flubit offering a decent price-beat http://i.imgur.com/PFE6ZVS.png
#34
I'm after a near silent pc that would act as a desktop replacement and on all the time media/plex server for the house, Would this be up to the job and could someone offer some links to components I may need.
I'm thinking an SSD and 4gb (maybe 8gb) of ram and windows 8.1 as the os (I have a legit key and iso).
It will be used for steaming live tv, will this handle this without any stutter or jerky video?
#35
Well, I'm far from being an expert doggboy (barely make it to novice if I'm honest), but I'm thinking of getting these (all from e-buyer):

Corsair 8GB DDR3L 1600MHZ 1x204 SODIMM Unbuffered


Samsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5inch SSD

If anyone knowledgable can advise re' whether these chioces will work in the Brix I'd be very grateful
(might help doggboy10 too?)

Edited By: Overdrawn on Jan 30, 2015 11:25
#36
Overdrawn
Well, I'm far from being an expert doggboy (barely make it to novice if I'm honest), but I'm thinking of getting these (all from e-buyer):Corsair 8GB DDR3L 1600MHZ 1x204 SODIMM UnbufferedSamsung 850 EVO 250GB 2.5inch SSD
If anyone knowledgable can advise re' whether these chioces will work in the Brix I'd be very grateful
(might help doggboy10 too?)

That's pretty much exactly the setup I have but why the SSD? You won't see any real performance benefit if it's just a plex server and, presumably, you want as much storage as possible so a large capacity mechanical HD might offer a better option. You should be able to find one quiet enough.

I wouldn't touch eBuyer with a 10 metre electric cattle prod though... there are plenty of tales of woe around about their borderline scam RMA process - I got badly stung over an SSD a while back..

I'm also not convinced that this model of the BRIX isn't a tad underpowered for transcoding (assuming you plan to use it for that). The processor certainly doesn't meet the minimum quoted in the required spec (although the spec is a bit wooly and people tend to get away with less).

Finally, if you wanted to penny pinch, you could almost certainly get away with 4Gb RAM instead of 8Gb - I have 8Gb, but that's only because I knew there was a chance I would be running Windows 8 on it in the future. Plex is not memory hungry - they recommend 2Gb free after the OS is loaded.

Of course my opinion is based upon this machine solely being a Plex server - if you had any other plans then that changes things.
#37
Would this take a "standard" SSD?

i.e. I have this one:
http://www.ebuyer.com/387080-sandisk-128gb-pulse-ssd-slim-sdssdp-128g-g25

EDIT: Yes, it does. Some specs for the Brix say mSATA but SATA fits fine.

Edited By: RowanDDR on Feb 08, 2015 20:14: edit
#38
me_lee


One note - if you buy memory make sure you get the low voltage stuff (1.35v). I almost got caught out but double checked just before I hit buy.

I've just realised that I ordered this 1.5v memory. It was recommended with the Brix. What would happen if I use it?
2 Likes #39
normal
me_lee

One note - if you buy memory make sure you get the low voltage stuff (1.35v). I almost got caught out but double checked just before I hit buy.
I've just realised that I ordered this 1.5v memory. It was recommended with the Brix. What would happen if I use it?

It won't work - sorry :( (although I doubt you would damage it)

RowanDDR
Would this take a "standard" SSD?
i.e. I have this one:http://www.ebuyer.com/387080-sandisk-128gb-pulse-ssd-slim-sdssdp-128g-g25

The one I fitted was from Intel - a standard 2.5 inch device which is 9.5mm thick. Yours looks like it is a couple of mm thinner than mine so shouldn't present a problem.



Edited By: me_lee on Feb 01, 2015 10:05
#40
What RAM would work?

According to http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5038&dl=1&RWD=0 (click the "Specification" tab), for this specific Brix model, it needs to be:

1x SO-DIMM DDR3L 1.35V slot
1333MHz
Max. 8GB

UPDATE: I've just noticed these links!
Official list of supported RAM: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5038#memory%20support%20list

I ordered this, which is in their list:
http://www.ebuyer.com/697039-corsair-value-select-4gb-kit-1x4gb-ddr3l-1333mhz-standard-sodimm-cmso4gx3m1c1333c9
EDIT: delivered, working fine.

FYI Flubit want 5-7 days for delivery of this Brix.. not worth the saving if you want this quickly.

Lastly, is this 32bit or 64bit? Can't seem to find that info.
EDIT: 64bit Windows 8.1 installed fine.

Edited By: RowanDDR on Feb 04, 2015 13:27: edit

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