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Glucosamine Sulphate 500mg
Glucosamine occurs naturally in the body where it plays a role in the smooth working of the joints and helps maintain connective tissues.

Manufactured to the highest quality standards within a government-approved Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP) facility, our pharmaceutical grade Glucosamine Sulphate 2KCl 500mg comes in small easy-to-swallow tablet form, ideal for those who don't like taking larger tablets. Glucosamine is taken by literally tens of thousands of our customers taking it on a daily basis as a natural way to help with the discomfort and pain associated common joint problems such as arthritis. Research into the effectiveness of Glucosamine in relation to joint problems is well documented, suggesting that Glucosamine not only helps to repair but also rebuild worn cartilage and therefore many find that it has a beneficial effect on joint pain.

Although small amounts of Glucosamine can be obtained through the diet by eating meat and fish, it is common that as we age, our bodys ability to produce and store Glucosamine can reduce. Therefore, supplementation with Glucosamine may be beneficial for some people in order to complement a healthy diet and support the bodys supply.

Our pharmaceutical grade Glucosamine Sulphate 500mg provides one third of your optimum daily dosage of Glucosamine in each easy-to-swallow small tablet and is therefore ideal for taking at staggered intervals throughout the day, with many customers taking one tablet with breakfast, lunch and dinner so that their Glucosamine supply is steadily released throughout the day!
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#1
What is glucosamine for?
#2
risheet;8610342
What is glucosamine for?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucosamine

:)
1 Like #3
"Glucosamine not only helps to repair but also rebuild worn cartilage and therefore many find that it has a beneficial effect on joint pain"

Outrageous statement. Placebo effect, nothing more
#4
ok so what should to supplement glucosamine with?

Im skinny as hell, 6ft tall, 21 years old, 8 stone, and vegetarian.

any ideas lol?
1 Like #5
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#6
risheet;8610489
ok so what should to supplement glucosamine with? Im skinny as hell, 6ft tall, 21 years old, 8 stone, and vegetarian. any ideas lol?


I have no idea who, or what you are asking :thinking:
#7
lol well i dont understand what glucosamine is for, i saw it advertised on tv for holland and barrett too. but what do people use it with?
#8
risheet
lol well i dont understand what glucosamine is for, i saw it advertised on tv for holland and barrett too. but what do people use it with?


They are tablets, just take it with water. They help with stiff joints, arthritus etc.

also the 1000mg is only 60p odd more.
#9
oh i see, so theyre not like all those other pills people take when theyre bodybuilding like multidextrose and that?
#10
risheet
oh i see, so theyre not like all those other pills people take when theyre bodybuilding like multidextrose and that?


Well not really but some bodybuilders do take them as they are putting alot of stress on their joints.

Key Benefits:

Excellent joint protection
Helps repair and build better cartilage
Promotes healthy joints
#11
oh i see, maybe i'll give them a bash when i rejoin the gym!
#12
risheet
ok so what should to supplement glucosamine with?

Im skinny as hell, 6ft tall, 21 years old, 8 stone, and vegetarian.

any ideas lol?


That depends, you M or F? :whistling:
#13
male lol
#14
mikeyp;8610687
Well not really but some bodybuilders do take them as they are putting alot of stress on their joints. Key Benefits:
Excellent joint protection
Helps repair and build better cartilage
Promotes healthy joints


Cannot possibly protect joints
Definitely cannot repair and build cartilage
promotes nothing
banned#15
As usual iglimpse speaks sense
Eating glucosamine to repair cartilage is like eating bones to fix a broken leg.
For the truly gullible only
#16
If you combine this with MSM they work wonders on stiff joints.

I have had bad knees since I was young and these rare amazing at reducing the stiffness
#17
Mascherano;8611011
As usual iglimpse speaks sense
Eating glucosamine to repair cartilage is like eating bones to fix a broken leg.
For the truly gullible only


Well my mum had aching ankles after walking. She took these (because my grandma used to swear by them for arthiritis) and since taking them has had no problems. I used to have occasional issues with my ankle too so I take them as a preventative measure. I haven't had any issues since either.

If it is the placebo effect then surely it's worth it? However, I think there is something to it. But who am I to disagree with you medical experts?
#18
iglimpse
Cannot possibly protect joints
Definitely cannot repair and build cartilage
promotes nothing


You got a link for that info? Or does anyone have any link for/against it?
#19
Searcher2;8611373
Well my mum had aching ankles after walking. She took these (because my grandma used to swear by them for arthiritis) and since taking them has had no problems. I used to have occasional issues with my ankle too so I take them as a preventative measure. I haven't had any issues since either.If it is the placebo effect then surely it's worth it? However, I think there is something to it. But who am I to disagree with you medical experts?


Glad they make you feel better.

The recent medical research and findings is why they are now no longer available on prescription / NHS.

The claims about repairing and making new cartilage are irresponsible.
#20
definitley agree with iglimpse , think everything is in the mind , if you look after your body and mind they'll look after you , think 90% of these multivitamins are placebo's
#21
All i can do is go by people who play alot of squash like myself and if they stop taking these for a few weeks they have to stop playing .
Perhaps some of you who just discount just don`t need them as you never push your body with excercise.
#22
That said, my neighbours dog was treated with them and they made a huge difference to her mobility.

I don't think she read the hype on the back of the packet so it couldn't be due to the placebo effect. :thinking:
#23
iglimpse


The recent medical research and findings is why they are now no longer available on prescription / NHS.

.


That is more likely to be down to costcutting
#24
LoveHearts
27.5% from Quidco and use voucher code QUID20 to get £2 off orders over £15.


REP added thanks
#25
snoopy18;8611539
All i can do is go by people who play alot of squash like myself and if they stop taking these for a few weeks they have to stop playing . Perhaps some of you who just discount just don`t need them as you never push your body with excercise.


The evidence is very weak but it is your choice. I don't play squash, why do you assume I don't push my body with exercise?

Personal comments to those who do not agree with you is childish.
#26
iglimpse
The evidence is very weak but it is your choice. I don't play squash, why do you assume I don't push my body with exercise?

Personal comments to those who do not agree with you is childish.


I was just saying that they work for some people that need them , regardless of the evidence .
#27
iglimpse;8611400

The recent medical research and findings is why they are now no longer available on prescription / NHS.

The claims about repairing and making new cartilage are irresponsible.


Whilst claims that they make new cartilage may be irresponsible it doesn't mean anybody getting benefit from taking them should stop taking them.

I suffer from a condition which reflexology sorted in one session (I didn't go for reflexology hoping to sort this condition but it did - after a month without treatment it gradually came back. Another session and it went again within 24 hours). I told the doctor this but he clearly thought it was all b******s despite his wife being a reflexologist! The NHS would give me pills/chemicals which indeed cure the symptoms but not the cause. I believed the reflexology was dealing with the cause.... but the NHS aren't interested in that.

On a side issue I almost died because of the rubbish systems they have in place. Thankfully I got stuck in Germany one weekend due to an air traffic control strike whilst on business. On the way back to the hotel I got more severe pains and went to A&E with suspected gall stones. I had the scan I had been waiting months for in the UK within 30 minutes. Within 4 days I had seen a specialist, had 7 x rays and an operation and life was heaven again. All of that cost about 300 Euros (which I claimed back on travel insurance but I would have gladly paid it). This was in a little town in Germany and was all withing walking distance of the factory I was working at. Once diagnosed the sepcialist told me my options and said if I waited for the op in the UK it could be weeks. If I waited he could do it that afternoon!!! [Sorry - I know it's deviated but the NHS has not been great for me].
#28
My old mutt " Ed" was having trouble getting on his feet ( he's eleven ) so after a lot of googling i started giving him these about a year ago and now he has no trouble at all so they seem to work.
#29
LoveHearts
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Spend over £20 you get £2 deducted on top of the above. Way cheaper than H&B etc.
banned#30
mully
definitley agree with iglimpse , think everything is in the mind , if you look after your body and mind they'll look after you , think 90% of these multivitamins are placebo's

If only- a startling number of people are poisoned by vitamin overdose, sometimes hilariously so:
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/04/28/2010-04-28_my_health_mix_almost_killed_me_supplement_nearly_fatal_sez_suit_vs_manufacturer.html

tek-monkey
You got a link for that info? Or does anyone have any link for/against it?

search Pubmed for glucosamine and osteoarthritis- the evidence is conflicting and weak.

snoopy18
All i can do is go by people who play alot of squash like myself and if they stop taking these for a few weeks they have to stop playing .
Perhaps some of you who just discount just don`t need them as you never push your body with excercise.

have you considered placebo effect? Its very powerful
snoopy18
That is more likely to be down to costcutting

it isnt
Searcher2
Whilst claims that they make new cartilage may be irresponsible it doesn't mean anybody getting benefit from taking them should stop taking them.

I suffer from a condition which reflexology sorted in one session

have you considered the placebo effect? if reflexology is correct then everything we know about science and biology is utterly wrong

snoopy18
I was just saying that they work for some people that need them , regardless of the evidence .

Have you considered the placebo effect?
Evidence is the cornerstone of modern medicine. How else can we allocate scarce resources?
Hearsay? Tradition?
#31
Placebo or not can you find them cheaper elsewhere? Cheers OP, have ordered to see if these help with my Tennis elbow.
#32
As iglimpse has already said the evidence for these is pretty weak. Most interestingly where they have been shown to work it's a very slow, long term effect. And yet there are so many people who take the stuff and get better within days or stop taking it and get worse within days. Placebo/nocebo effect might explain some of it. regression to the mean (you start taking this when you feel really bad and a few days later it's less bad, but if you hadn't taken it the same thing would have happened) explain some more.

As for "it works in animals so it can't be the placebo effect as they haven't read the pack"; it certainly does work on them. Especially pack animals like dogs that look up to you as their alpha male. If you have higher expectations of them they will achieve more! Read the story of Clever Hans the maths genius horse.

Having said all that, if I had bad arthritis (I have it very mildly in one knee when the weather's bad) I'd probably give it a try too, so I'm not gonna criticise those who want to. I'd say don't expect miracles, but then you wouldn't get the placebo effect which would be a shame because it's a marvellous thing!
#33
Interesting thoughts peeps. I was just about to jump on this deal having recently had knee surgery and had this recommended by my surgeon, who is extremely well regarded in the professional sports arena. The negative views have made me hold my horses and look into this a bit further, although I am wondering why he recommended it if there is so little evidence to support its use.
#34
hurdy;8616843
Interesting thoughts peeps. I was just about to jump on this deal having recently had knee surgery and had this recommended by my surgeon, who is extremely well regarded in the professional sports arena. The negative views have made me hold my horses and look into this a bit further, although I am wondering why he recommended it if there is so little evidence to support its use.


Because want to be helpful but they are out of date . At the end of the day, there are not too many dreadful side effects noticed so the only thing it is likely to hurt is your wallet.

No different from those who still suggest cranberry juice for urinary symptoms, was thought to be helpful at one time but recent evidence shows no difference over any other type of fluid intake
1 Like #35
Don’t you guys know that science has all the answers - you must all be mad, christ I have 3 degrees myself and one in Psyche so it must be a psychosomatic response - god get a life, most research I've seen in my time is often made up or altered or designed to get a certain result - sadly most of these shenanigans are carried out by the so called mainstream scientists and universities. There is good research but most is rubbish within the current realm of science – not all, but most.

The bottom line is food is food and you are what you eat. The supermarket food is dire it has nothing in it and hence anyone that works for a living needs more than the soylent green pedalled out by the system hence supplements. They aren’t as good as good food but in my experience and many others who work in the construction industry is that they help a great deal.

Bricklayers I know swear by this for joints. I also know a few others that claim it works for them. I’ve tried it for a while and my joints are less painful. Likewise I find cod liver oil cheers me up and also helps with a few other things, and that B-Vits help me cope with long hours of work.

We work 80+ hours a week on some projects throughout summer and its simple don’t take your vits and a few weeks in everyone I know in the team gets mouth ulcers and starts to fall part and needs time off. I believe anything you put into your body has an effect, science to me often likes to find effects that suit the pharmaceutical companies goal and not what actually happens to humans over time. C’mon even Stevie Wonder can see the more processed our food gets, the more its messed with the higher the rates of cancer are.

Supplements don’t cure anything but they can help. I have bad joints from starting my career off as a bricklayer until 30, also knockdown didn’t help, nor did running and playing squash, plus living in a damp climate that’s mostly cold and not eating the best food. There’s your fix but I don’t have a time machine, a winning lottery ticket to go live in the sun, quality food available, a sports scientist to ensure I train correctly – so as they are absent I’ll use some glucosamine every few days and some cod liver oil / omega etc and go about my day with joints that feel a hell of a lot better for it – or I could choose plan B and suffer while idiots get paid silly amounts in grants to do research whereby they’ve already decided the outcome.

Bottom line the state of our food today, I’ll happily take my chances with some supplements even if you can’t absorb in the same manner as good food, its better than living just on the muck. It probably doesn’t repair things, may grease things up a bit who knows who cares it has the desired effect without making me ill so that will do me nicely :-)

As for glucosamine, the effect for me is this, I can do everyday things and I get aches in the joints but no more pain. The only time my body feels normal with no aches in the joints is after a week of sun abroad, last one was on the 3 week of being in Thailand I felt awesome. So its no miracle fix but it does help keep you going, which is what I find with most things, they help but they don’t fix.

Voted Hot :-)

PS I still cant stop laughing at how strong some people think the placebo effect is - ffs
#36
Mister_E;8618124
Don’t you guys know that science has all the answers - you must all be mad, christ I have 3 degrees myself and one in Psyche so it must be a psychosomatic response - god get a life, most research I've seen in my time is often made up or altered or designed to get a certain result - sadly most of these shenanigans are carried out by the so called mainstream scientists and universities. There is good research but most is rubbish within the current realm of science – not all, but most. The bottom line is food is food and you are what you eat. The supermarket food is dire it has nothing in it and hence anyone that works for a living needs more than the soylent green pedalled out by the system hence supplements. They aren’t as good as good food but in my experience and many others who work in the construction industry is that they help a great deal. Bricklayers I know swear by this for joints. I also know a few others that claim it works for them. I’ve tried it for a while and my joints are less painful. Likewise I find cod liver oil cheers me up and also helps with a few other things, and that B-Vits help me cope with long hours of work. We work 80+ hours a week on some projects throughout summer and its simple don’t take your vits and a few weeks in everyone I know in the team gets mouth ulcers and starts to fall part and needs time off. I believe anything you put into your body has an effect, science to me often likes to find effects that suit the pharmaceutical companies goal and not what actually happens to humans over time. C’mon even Stevie Wonder can see the more processed our food gets, the more its messed with the higher the rates of cancer are. Supplements don’t cure anything but they can help. I have bad joints from starting my career off as a bricklayer until 30, also knockdown didn’t help, nor did running and playing squash, plus living in a damp climate that’s mostly cold and not eating the best food. There’s your fix but I don’t have a time machine, a winning lottery ticket to go live in the sun, quality food available, a sports scientist to ensure I train correctly – so as they are absent I’ll use some glucosamine every few days and some cod liver oil / omega etc and go about my day with joints that feel a hell of a lot better for it – or I could choose plan B and suffer while idiots get paid silly amounts in grants to do research whereby they’ve already decided the outcome. Bottom line the state of our food today, I’ll happily take my chances with some supplements even if you can’t absorb in the same manner as good food, its better than living just on the muck. It probably doesn’t repair things, may grease things up a bit who knows who cares it has the desired effect without making me ill so that will do me nicely :-) As for glucosamine, the effect for me is this, I can do everyday things and I get aches in the joints but no more pain. The only time my body feels normal with no aches in the joints is after a week of sun abroad, last one was on the 3 week of being in Thailand I felt awesome. So its no miracle fix but it does help keep you going, which is what I find with most things, they help but they don’t fix. Voted Hot :-) PS I still cant stop laughing at how strong some people think the placebo effect is - ffs


You appear to compare the hype that supplement companies provide, with scientific research. Scientific research proves or disproves claims that companies make. This product claims to repair cartilage! You prefer to attack science rather than the daft claims products make. Anyone with a basic degree in science can see that just is not possible.

My concern is for those who cannot afford these products, they are made to feel their condition will get worse because they cannot take them, when this is just not the case. Those who are already unwell, or in pain do not need this buden.

I am glad that taking supplements allows you to continue your current lifestyle of working 80+hrs per week. Maybe you could suggest your company supplies these at a discount to all the team, sound like a very worthy staff perk.

In fact why employ100 construction people @ 40hr week when I could supply these and only employ 50 people @80hr week....possibilites are endless.

Claims made by supplement companies should always be challenged when they cannot provide robust evidence. Does anyone remember the school in Durham that claimed they could improve exam results by giving every child fish oil supplements? This was hyped further by many dubious newspaper "health correspondents".

Only those who took the time to look into this further, discovered that in fact the fish oils made no difference whatsoever to the outcomes, in this case exam results. Never mind, for a good few years anyway, supplement companies profits soared as parents were made to feel they were failing their kids if they did not provide supplements.

The proof is worth reading here http://www.badscience.net/2008/09/dave-ford-from-durham-council-plays-at-being-a-scientist-again/#more-807

People are being deluded and ripped of by pseudo science, the market is worth billions. It is an unregulated market that is not held responsible when things go wrong and sadly that is the side the NHS has to deal with (chinese herb case, caused kidney failure). Things can go wrong with properly regulated medicines as well but at least they are held accountable.

No evidence to suggest glucosamine is in this category, so carry on taking them and be happy
#37
From the horses mouth........aka the NHS

Glucosamine


Glucosamine is available in two different preparations - glucosamine hydrochloride, which is licensed, and glucosamine sulphate, which is unlicensed.
Although there is little medical evidence to back up the effectiveness of glucosamine hydrochloride, recent research has shown that taking glucosamine sulphate (which is found in healthy cartilage) or fish oils may have positive results. However, the NHS cannot recommend or prescribe the use of glucosamine sulphate because it does not often prove to cost-effective.
If you want to buy glucosamine sulphate for yourself, it is best to take the 1500mg tablet that is taken once a day, as the 500mg tablets (taken three times a day) seems to be ineffective. However, you should not take glucosamine if you are allergic to shellfish.
Glucosamine sulphate is available from health food shops. However, it is important to remember that it may not be effective for everyone, and you may only get a mild improvement in your pain. You should evaluate the severity of your pain before you start taking glucosamine sulphate, so that you can tell whether or not there is a noticeable improvement.
It is best to take glucosamine sulphate for a trial period at first. If you have not noticed an improvement in your pain or stiffness within three months of taking glucosamine sulphate, it is not likely to be effective for you.
Voted hot......for those that it does help ;-) but recommended dosage is the 1500mg tab not this lol
1 Like #38
iglimpse;8618586

My concern is for those who cannot afford these products, they are made to feel their condition will get worse because they cannot take them, when this is just not the case. Those who are already unwell, or in pain do not need this buden.


Well isn't that the purpose of this thread? If you can't afford £10 (approx non-discounted price for equivalent of 1500mg a day) a year then I would hazard a guess that you will have more things to worry about than taking pills for aching bones.

My order for a years worth of Glucosamine and Omega 3 was under £14.

Products
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1 x Glucosamine Sulphate 1000mg (S130) = £6.48
Pack Size S130 - 180 + 180
1 x Omega 3 1000mg (S400) = £9.45
Pack Size S400 - 180 + 180
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Sub-Total: £15.93
Price break Discount: £2.00
Total: £13.93

If I get the Quidco at 27% it will come in at a shade over £10 for both (I only use 1000mg per day at the moment).
#39
hurdy
Interesting thoughts peeps. I was just about to jump on this deal having recently had knee surgery and had this recommended by my surgeon, who is extremely well regarded in the professional sports arena. The negative views have made me hold my horses and look into this a bit further, although I am wondering why he recommended it if there is so little evidence to support its use.


Chrondoitan is good for knees
#40
snoopy18
Chrondoitan is good for knees


That's chondroitin or chondroitin sulphate (sulfate if you're American). Not sure the evdience is any better. Glucosamine and Chondroitin Sulphate are often sold as a combined pill.

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