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Went in today as partner told me these were half price £8.90, indeed they were, but if you bought another you got the second half price £4.25.

On the website this is not so, so hopefully its not just my holland and barrett and all can benefit from this great deal and stay loose
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#1
Do these actually do anything? Just asking as the wife got me some the other day. I reckon they're really made of snake oil :lol:
#2
Body Builder Cutting Diet


Eat 5 small meals a day Also drink water through the day.


Breakfast: 3 whites + Small Bowl Of Oats Skimmed Milk

Midmorning snack: Tinned Tuna in Wholewheat Pitta Bread + salad

Lunch: 1 Chicken Breast

Dinner: Fish Or Chicken - 1/2 Cup Brown Rice Or Whole Pasta vegetables or salad

Evening Snack: 3 Tbsp Low Fat Cottage Cheese


Green Tea 3 - 4 Cups a Day

Skimmed Milk 2-3 Cups a Day


No SUGAR I Mean Anything With Added Sugar

No Spuds Or Chips

No Tea Or Coffee

Watch The Weight Fall off You if You Keep To This Diet
#3
Ascot;3372838
Body Builder Cutting Diet


Eat 5 small meals a day Also drink water through the day.


Breakfast: 3 whites + Small Bowl Of Oats Skimmed Milk

Midmorning snack: Tinned Tuna in Wholewheat Pitta Bread + salad

Lunch: 1 Chicken Breast

Dinner: Fish Or Chicken - 1/2 Cup Brown Rice Or Whole Pasta vegetables or salad

Evening Snack: 3 Tbsp Low Fat Cottage Cheese


Green Tea 3 - 4 Cups a Day

Skimmed Milk 2-3 Cups a Day


No SUGAR I Mean Anything With Added Sugar

No Spuds Or Chips

No Tea Or Coffee

Watch The Weight Fall off You if You Keep To This Diet



That is such bad advice, everybody is different you can't issue a generic diet, and the body NEEDS sugars, you can't deprive thew body of certain things, this may work for a short term fix but will leave you in a worse state...and probably hungry.
#4
If you dont want to be on the larger side of life, just do 2 simple things....

1) eat less

2) excercise more :thumbsup:
#5
I am confused by this post. The link goes to the H&B main page... but the picture is about weight loss and so are the posts above. I thought Glucosamine was to help joint movement.

I get Glucosamine from Healthspan. Just bought 1.5 years supply for £11.90 using the voucher code DM-LNO

Glucosamine Optiflex HCl 1,000mg - Shellfish-free
360 Tablets Qty: 1, GBP 10.95

Glucosamine Optiflex HCl 1,000mg - Shellfish-free
180 Tablets Qty: 1, GBP 5.95

Postage: GBP 0
Discounts: GBP -5
Order Total: GBP 11.9

Total Paid: GBP 11.9
#6
Glucosamine is a supplement to help the joints and connective tissues and yes it does work over the long term but you generally have to use in excess of the recommendations to get the desired effect!

as for stephen2k5's advice thats pretty wrong because the body will actually lose more weight if you eat more, its all about timing with food and seperating meals more so you are eating more often and arcsbite's comment about sugars was slightly out as he said cut anything with ADDED sugar not cut out sugars completely
#7
arcsbite
That is such bad advice... The body NEEDS sugars,


Take a look at the diet again and the words in it.

Wholewheat Pitta Bread - salad - Brown Rice - Wholewheat Pasta Vegetables


So what does the body do with the above carbohydrates?

Thats right...After eating carbohydrates, the body breaks them down into sugar glucose...Which is then used for energy by the muscles and the brain.

Your body does not need the Sugar you put in tea or coffee or all the other **** that Sugar been added to!

Bad Carbs!

Soft drinks, tinned fruit, cakes, table sugar, fudge, candy, jam, toffee, plain biscuits, gum, mint, boiled sweets, chutney, pickle and cakes are examples of bad carbs. For those who want to lose weight, these are strictly off limits.

Since they can be broken down quickly in the body, they actually cause us to feel hungry faster.
#8
Dunno what it is ....but for the Name only i'm voting hot......:thumbsup:
#9
arcsbite
the body NEEDS sugars


It doesn't need dietary sugars. Dietary protein and fat are essential - you'd die, utlimately, without them. Not so for sugars / carbs - gluconeogenesis.

arcsbite
you can't deprive thew body of certain things


True for some things, not carbs or sugars, though. I'm not saying it makes sense, or that it's a great approach - but they're not essential.

arcsbite
this may work for a short term fix but will leave you in a worse state...and probably hungry.


Acksherly, macronutrients that are most likely to help with satiety are protein, fats and fibre.

Dieting for any period of time, though, is likely to leave you hungry. All that said, PSMFs are all the rage, these days.
#10
stephen2k5
If you dont want to be on the larger side of life, just do 2 simple things....

1) eat less

2) excercise more :thumbsup:


Too true.

It's no more complicated than that.

'cept for all the mind stuff and "hunger" hormones ;-)
#11
mr_b
as for stephen2k5's advice thats pretty wrong because the body will actually lose more weight if you eat more


Complete rubbish.

The laws of science can simply not be broken like that. Never have, never will, and there's no science or studies that show they ever have been observed to (in a controlled environment).

mr_b
its all about timing with food and seperating meals more so you are eating more often


Balderdash.

6 small meals, or 3 larger meals makes absolutely zero difference to calories in, calories out.

Forget metabolic advantage, it's a crock. People have trotted out that idea for ages, now - it may help some people feel fulfilled - and for some people does the reverse, but has practically zero impact on the metabolism. It just sounds appealling.
#12
Ascot
Since they can be broken down quickly in the body, they actually cause us to feel hungry faster.


Indeed.

Insulin spikes and leptin all have a huge impact in how the food we ingest, makes us feel, appetite-wise, and how then, it's dealt with.
#13
What's all this got to do with Glucosamine Sulphate and the best place to get it?
#14
Searcher2
What's all this got to do with Glucosamine Sulphate and the best place to get it?


Absolutely nothing :-|
#15
Lester Burnham
Absolutely nothing :-|


:lol:
#16
Lester Burnham
Complete rubbish.

The laws of science can simply not be broken like that. Never have, never will, and there's no science or studies that show they ever have been observed to (in a controlled environment).



Balderdash.

6 small meals, or 3 larger meals makes absolutely zero difference to calories in, calories out.

Forget metabolic advantage, it's a crock. People have trotted out that idea for ages, now - it may help some people feel fulfilled - and for some people does the reverse, but has practically zero impact on the metabolism. It just sounds appealling.




Actually you'd be completely wrong on both counts there, it has been proven as if you are eating the same amount of calories but in smaller more frequent meals it increases the metabolism therefore burning more which has been proved in many studies! and nutrient timing makes a huge difference as if we eat certain foods at certain times or around activites or periods of different hormonal levels then it completely effects how that nutrient will be utilised and stored which greatly effects the body composition!

I worked alongside many elite athletes, coaches etc and trained many international top performing athletes so I know exactly the results these methods give!

But tbh this is all not really related to the deal so we should get back to the subject in hand!
#17
mr_b
Actually you'd be completely wrong on both counts there, it has been proven as if you are eating the same amount of calories but in smaller more frequent meals it increases the metabolism therefore burning more


People say that all the time. And I'll say it again - forget the concept of metabolic advantage - in this context, it's a crock.

mr_b
which has been proved in many studies!


So you should have no problem, whatsoever, with citing a authoriative, scientific source for these studies, to prove your assertion.

mr_b
and nutrient timing makes a huge difference as if we eat certain foods at certain times or around activites or periods of different hormonal levels then it completely effects how that nutrient will be utilised and stored which greatly effects the body composition!


That's something different, though, and I wouldn't disagree with it.

But claiming metabolic advantage, is utter tosh. If there is any, it is so slight as to be negligible. The real answer, is there is no metabolic (ie calorie orientated) avantage to how you space your meals.

mr_b
I worked alongside many elite athletes, coaches etc and trained many international top performing athletes so I know exactly the results these methods give!


Power of assertion doesn't work - that's how this dogma gets started in the first place.

Cite any reputable scientific study / ies you like to try and prove your claim of any tangible metabolic advantage (ie in relation to calorie burning).
#18
Lester Burnham
People say that all the time. And I'll say it again - forget the concept of metabolic advantage - in this context, it's a crock.



So you should have no problem, whatsoever, with citing a authoriative, scientific source for these studies, to prove your assertion.



That's something different, though, and I wouldn't disagree with it.

But claiming metabolic advantage, is utter tosh. If there is any, it is so slight as to be negligible. The real answer, is there is no metabolic (ie calorie orientated) avantage to how you space your meals.



Power of assertion doesn't work - that's how this dogma gets started in the first place.

Cite any reputable scientific study / ies you like to try and prove your claim of any tangible metabolic advantage (ie in relation to calorie burning).


TBH i could spend hours finding and quoting many studies but when its not even relevant to the deal it isn't worth my time as I moderate on other forums and have a very busy life already but thought it was important to include my 2 cents so people reading this post got complete information and like i said I work alongside many elite athletes, nutritionists, scientists etc all of whom have proven time and time again especially in real world results which are what i care about in the end lol
#19
mr_b
TBH i could spend hours finding and quoting many studies but when its not even relevant to the deal it isn't worth my time as I moderate on other forums and have a very busy life already but thought it was important to include my 2 cents so people reading this post got complete information and like i said I work alongside many elite athletes, nutritionists, scientists etc all of whom have proven time and time again especially in real world results which are what i care about in the end lol


That's OK - I didn't think you'd find any supporting your bobbins assertion.

However, I've done your homework for you... here is the science refuting such rubbish:-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494?dopt=AbstractPlus

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=442625

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=424000

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8383639?dopt=AbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592618?dopt=AbstractPlus

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8399092?dopt=AbstractPlus

Power of assertion just doesn't cut it. Scientific based studies that prove and refute such bobbins, do. HTH. HAND.

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