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#1
sorry if this stupid q but is this for xbox 360
#2
Yes this is compatible with the newer versions of xbox 360 but only if ur TV has a HDMI port.
#3
manzi
Yes this is compatible with the newer versions of xbox 360 but only if ur TV has a HDMI port.


thanks for that
#4
good find, but I am sure gold plating is a waste on HDMI cables...voted hot
#5
will take a look thanks

scooter
#6
vicknanth
sorry if this stupid q but is this for xbox 360


yes and its fine - the more expensive ones dont make much a difference just a slong as its gold plated ti should produce a good picture
#7
Morning - my understanding is that there is no difference between an expensive cable and a cheap cable, when it comes to HDMI, as the signal is digital. Cable quality >>is<< very relevant if the signal is analogue.
#8
Great price. NICE FIND MATE
#9
Agent_Silver
good find, but I am sure gold plating is a waste on HDMI cables...voted hot


Heh, yes it really is, pretty much any fancy **** on an HDMI cable will make literally, 100%, absolutely no difference because it's an entirely digital connection. That said, this is a total bargain, £2.99 is very cheap.
#10
good price, for those without a home bargins nearby this one from ebuyer is only 70p more with free delivery http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130508
#11
be weary if it's for a hdmi 360. you'll either need to get the audio dongle, or split the case on the component/vga lead to get any audio out, pretty easy to do, but microsoft have made the component cable(part that plugs in the xbox) just too big so it blocks access to the hdmi port.

but..... check here, http://www.chadledford.com/?p=50

i've done this and it works a treat. hdmi to dvi connection for my 22" monitor and vga to my big TV.

winner.
banned#12
such bling!
#13
are these shops actually branded home bargains? or are they like pound shops etc ... ?

oh, and anyone know if they are hdmi v1.3a/b ?? :)
#14
HORRIBLE !

cheap HDMI'S are a false economy ...
#15
nonemoremannion;2025793
be weary if it's for a hdmi 360. you'll either need to get the audio dongle, or split the case on the component/vga lead to get any audio out, pretty easy to do, but microsoft have made the component cable(part that plugs in the xbox) just too big so it blocks access to the hdmi port.

but..... check here, http://www.chadledford.com/?p=50

i've done this and it works a treat. hdmi to dvi connection for my 22" monitor and vga to my big TV.

winner.


This is slightly misleading, if you're using the Xbox connected to hdmi on the TV then the hdmi cable will carry the audio as well. You only need the audio dongle (which is supplied with the Elite) if you need separate audio out.

John
#16
moist_gibbon
HORRIBLE !

cheap HDMI'S are a false economy ...


Hi - I was always under the impression that the price of an HDMI cable is irrelevant as the signal is digital and so is not subject to noise and stuff the way that an analogue signal is. Would you please explain why you feel that cheap HDMI cables are a bad idea? Thanks
#17
They really aren't a false economy. If the cable is good enough to give you a picture and the cable doesn't break in half, or try to strangle you like a powerful snake, it's as good as it's ever gonna be.
#18
Vintastic
Heh, yes it really is, pretty much any fancy **** on an HDMI cable will make literally, 100%, absolutely no difference because it's an entirely digital connection. That said, this is a total bargain, £2.99 is very cheap.


LOL !! Yeah, ok mate....

So come on then, what would you use to protect the connection surfaces from oxidization and tarnishing ?
Maybe you could also give the assembled a quick overview of what happens to a digital signal through degradation of connected resistance. :whistling:

I'll not hold my breath
#19
i agree with GIZMOUK

it doesnt matter if the signal is digital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the gold helps to carry the signal better than another cheaper metal

duh

get one, great price

if you havent got an educated, well researched opinion on a product and technology....

dont bother posting.

lol
#20
For those who have been advised that a cheap HDMI is little difference to an expensive one, you have been advised properly. Tests have shown that there is no noticeable difference between a £5 cable and a £40 cable under 4m. Two things make large retailers money; cables and extended warranties. As has been said before.... it's a digital signal.

Part of the HDMI technology spec is that "that no more than one pixel per billion be lost in transmission". So if you feel that you need to pay £40 for that extra pixel, then by all means do. The rest of us will enjoy spending the money on a nice meal or on the children.
#21
There are actually very good reasons why premium hdmi cables cost more:

http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1082.html

John
#22
Vintastic
Heh, yes it really is, pretty much any fancy **** on an HDMI cable will make literally, 100%, absolutely no difference because it's an entirely digital connection. That said, this is a total bargain, £2.99 is very cheap.


Gold plating has never been there to improve the signal per se, its because It doesnt deteriorate as much over time. Bare metal will corrode from the moisture in the air, normal silver coatings are apparantly not as good as gold.
Pretty irrelevant IMO with cheap chinese goods anyway.
#23
What I need now is a good/cheap hdmi switcher. Anyone know where I can get one?
#24
Will this work with PS3?
#25
Yes, it will work with the PS3.

I bought a £5 HDMI cable from Zavvi on Oxford Street after work on Friday, and it works fine. Not a bad price for a bricks and mortar store, and the cheapest anywhere else in the area was £20.
#26
moist_gibbon
HORRIBLE !

cheap HDMI'S are a false economy ...


if they're digital surely it doesn't make a difference? :? would like to know before i buy this - £3 seems a bargain to me!
#27
nonemoremannion
be weary if it's for a hdmi 360. you'll either need to get the audio dongle, or split the case on the component/vga lead to get any audio out, pretty easy to do, but microsoft have made the component cable(part that plugs in the xbox) just too big so it blocks access to the hdmi port.

but..... check here, http://www.chadledford.com/?p=50

i've done this and it works a treat. hdmi to dvi connection for my 22" monitor and vga to my big TV.

winner.


On the newer xbox 360s you can just plug in the HDMI cable and audio/video will work fine without a dongle, mine did anyway.
#28
Agent_Silver
good find, but I am sure gold plating is a waste on HDMI cables...voted hot


It isn't. Some cables with bare (normally nickel) connectors are subject to oxidisation (like rust) which makes them non-conductive over time. This is common in humid places (like the UK).

Gold does not oxidise like other metals because it is in the 'base' group (also why it is so expensive!) This means although the cables can be slightly more expensive, the quality of the connections will be better for longer.

I'm sure you've had a situation where a cable needs to be 'wiggled' to get a good connection. Analogue sources would have a crackling noise, whereas digital sources would produce artefacts or be 'jittery'
#29
mikezs;2026770
It isn't. Some cables with bare (normally nickel) connectors are subject to oxidisation (like rust) which makes them non-conductive over time. This is common in humid places (like the UK).
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Unless you use your telly on the deck of your yacht, it will make no difference.
#30
has anyone got a link to a 3 metre one at reasonable price?
1 Like #31
gizmouk
LOL !! Yeah, ok mate....

So come on then, what would you use to protect the connection surfaces from oxidization and tarnishing ?
Maybe you could also give the assembled a quick overview of what happens to a digital signal through degradation of connected resistance. :whistling:

I'll not hold my breath


steven gerrard
i agree with GIZMOUK
...
if you havent got an educated, well researched opinion on a product and technology....

dont bother posting.

lol


Okay thanks for those very polite and informed replies. I'm not going to stoop to call you any names back, but I hope you wouldn't be that rude off the bat to someone in real life, so there's no need to do it here.

This is a forum about trying to save people money, and the deal posted is a bargain. If you think it's worth spending £100 on an HDMI cable, then by all means do it, but if you come here and insult everyones intelligence by trying to get them to waste their hard-earned on a super-duper expensive digital connector instead of a nice £2.99 one, I'm gonna have to step in and explain why that might not be a good idea.

I love how you attempted to sound intelligent and befuddle me with astounding technological insights right off the bat, while getting most of the terminology wrong. I guess you presumed that because I wrote a pretty short reply, I didn't know very much about the technology. Okay, I'll explain to you "what happens to a digital signal through degradation of connected resistance", presuming you're asking me how minimising oxidisation at the contact points will improve the quality of digital information received.

The short answer is, it won't do ANYTHING. People have already mentioned that the gold is to prevent oxidisation and improve the contacts (and therefore, increase the conductivity). The truth is that the benefits are minimal, even on an analog cable, mainly because of how thin the layer of gold is in most cables (I've heard in some cases it's around 0.1nm average, or one ten-billionth of a metre)! Because of this, and the fact that in the real world the surfaces are never going to be clean at the molecular level, it means that the electrons have to quantum tunnel through anyway, so the benefits in conductivity are going to be pretty small.

So, er, how does slightly improving the conductivity improve the digital signal again? You do understand what a digital signal is right? It's ones and zeroes, it current applied versus current not applied. It's not "how much voltage was applied exactly?". Even the simplest cable can tell between on and off, and if mistakes are made, that's why we have parity bit checking!

I've no problem with cables having gold connectors if they're cheap, but the only advantage is that they might slow the degradation of the cable, and that's only an issue when it becomes so bad that no signal gets through at all, and I've never seen that happen. Also, when I was knocking all the 'extra ****' that some cables had, I was more referring to the single-crystal wires and all that balls.

The best analogy i've heard is that buying expensive digital connectors and hoping your TV picture will get better is like buying a better modem and hoping it'll improve the grammar in your emails.


P.S. Johnmcl7, I love that comic :)
#32
pibpob
You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Unless you use your telly on the deck of your yacht, it will make no difference.


oxidisation is a problem indoors too, our PCs would stop working over time without platings on the connections.
#33
Gold Feet
has anyone got a link to a 3 metre one at reasonable price?


Check out the ebuyer plexus ones. They range from 1m to 10m I think.

Free delivery on aswell right now
#34
Vintastic
Okay thanks for those very polite and informed replies. I'm not going to stoop to call you any names back, but I hope you wouldn't be that rude off the bat to someone in real life, so there's no need to do it here.

This is a forum about trying to save people money, and the deal posted is a bargain. If you think it's worth spending £100 on an HDMI cable, then by all means do it, but if you come here and insult everyones intelligence by trying to get them to waste their hard-earned on a super-duper expensive digital connector instead of a nice £2.99 one, I'm gonna have to step in and explain why that might not be a good idea.

I love how you attempted to sound intelligent and befuddle me with astounding technological insights right off the bat, while getting most of the terminology wrong. I guess you presumed that because I wrote a pretty short reply, I didn't know very much about the technology. Okay, I'll explain to you "what happens to a digital signal through degradation of connected resistance", presuming you're asking me how minimising oxidisation at the contact points will improve the quality of digital information received.

The short answer is, it won't do ANYTHING. People have already mentioned that the gold is to prevent oxidisation and improve the contacts (and therefore, increase the conductivity). The truth is that the benefits are minimal, even on an analog cable, mainly because of how thin the layer of gold is in most cables (I've heard in some cases it's around 0.1nm average, or one ten-billionth of a metre)! Because of this, and the fact that in the real world the surfaces are never going to be clean at the molecular level, it means that the electrons have to quantum tunnel through anyway, so the benefits in conductivity are going to be pretty small.

So, er, how does slightly improving the conductivity improve the digital signal again? You do understand what a digital signal is right? It's ones and zeroes, it current applied versus current not applied. It's not "how much voltage was applied exactly?". Even the simplest cable can tell between on and off, and if mistakes are made, that's why we have parity bit checking!

I've no problem with cables having gold connectors if they're cheap, but the only advantage is that they might slow the degradation of the cable, and that's only an issue when it becomes so bad that no signal gets through at all, and I've never seen that happen. Also, when I was knocking all the 'extra ****' that some cables had, I was more referring to the single-crystal wires and all that balls.

The best analogy i've heard is that buying expensive digital connectors and hoping your TV picture will get better is like buying a better modem and hoping it'll improve the grammar in your emails.


P.S. Johnmcl7, I love that comic :)


He never suggested it wasnt a bargain or Gold would improve the signal.
I think someone suggest Gold plating was only to look 'fancy'.

Metals need plating, end of, choice of platings and the envirnoment that they are made in can be critical, CPU pins etc.
The biggest problem is when the platings wear off, like with the old video game cartridges or headphone sockets, edge connectors on PCi cards etc.
I can't be the only person to have to clean these with alcohol in the past when they failed to work due to wear and tarnishing.

But yes, a cheap chinese made cable is unlikely to matter in this case, and yes its a bargain, and the sooner it becomes common knowledge that digital cables are pretty much all going to give the same picture quality, the better.
#35
Hot deal.
Time and again I've seen this argument.
This is only 3 quid, give it a try.
If you'd rather spend £60-£100 go ahead, its your choice and your money. (If anyone does please also buy the cheap cable, you can afford it, and do a comparison for us. Thanks.)
#36
mistry123
Check out the ebuyer plexus ones. They range from 1m to 10m I think.

Free delivery on aswell right now


How are you getting free delivery? All I see is 20% discounted postage when checking out
#37
fossman
What I need now is a good/cheap hdmi switcher. Anyone know where I can get one?

I got this one http://www.hotukdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175562
#38
floyd
How are you getting free delivery? All I see is 20% discounted postage when checking out


sorry about that, They seemed to be free del last week.

I have these cables, they are excellent
#39
Gold Feet;2026866
has anyone got a link to a 3 metre one at reasonable price?
Do a search on eBay.
#40
Gold Feet;2026981
oxidisation is a problem indoors too, our PCs would stop working over time without platings on the connections.
Platings perhaps - gold platings no. Unless conditions are really bad (in which case your house would be rotting away anyway), the mating surfaces are not going to corrode. And when you insert a plug in a socket, the wiping action of the contacts will remove mild corrosion anyway (as well as that infinitessimally-thin soft gold plating!). All this gold-plating lark is marketing bollox to entrap the gullible.

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