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Green PC Atom £202.00

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banned8y, 1m agoFound 8 years, 1 month ago
The Green PC has apparenty been put at a special price for 207 incl VAT, you can have a further reduction in price (to 202 incl VAT) if you put deal code GreePC-T on the order booking form or while booking the order on the phone lines 0845 6170 081 -5. Prices are only valid for three working days.

Special features:
Intel Atom CPU
1GB RAM
80GB Energy Efficient Hard Disk
24W Average Power, which should eventually mean that these PCs will pay their cost back to you with the electricity saving
Three years return to base warranty
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banned#1
Why the cold votes ? I thought we were supporing green :-)
#2
bit pricey considering the perfomance of the atom, a low power amd processor based system could be built at far better spec and superiour performance for the price with very similar power consumption.
#3
Wouldn't using an old "recycled" PC someone has chucked out be just as "green" and have similar low spec, taking into account the amount of energy & materials used to make it?
OK the power supply would use a bit more, but new goods, and transporting them from China sort of defeats the green idea!

As an everyday PC, for serious & varied uses, it is just throwing money away, like a lot of these refurbs posted on here, but at least they are already built and haven't used any more of the planet's resources to make a very pathetic machine!
banned#4
nihcaj

OK the power supply would use a bit more, but new goods, and transporting them from China sort of defeats the green idea!!


They are being manf in Sheffield from what I know
#5
Dell_in_the_bed
They are being manf in Sheffield from what I know


Everything? The motherboard, processor, case power supply etc.? They be put together there, but the components still come from all over the world.
#6
these are not great and TBH not worth the money. they are just using the GREEN ticket to get noticed :)
#7
Expensive for an Atom machine.
#8
craigthaagensen
bit pricey considering the perfomance of the atom, a low power amd processor based system could be built at far better spec and superiour performance for the price with very similar power consumption.


Some details of this AMD system would be appreciated. I am currently in the market for an always on low power consumption PC with moderate performance. I've looked at the Atom based systems and whilst the power usage is attractive I'm concerned that the maximum performance at times of peak demand would be too low.

There has been a lot of hot air about the Athlon 64 2000+ beating the Atom on power consumption/performance but I'm sceptical about the truth behind this and anyway the parts seem rarer than hens teeth.
banned#9
nihcaj
Wouldn't using an old "recycled" PC someone has chucked out be just as "green" and have similar low spec, taking into account the amount of energy & materials used to make it?
OK the power supply would use a bit more, but new goods, and transporting them from China sort of defeats the green idea!

As an everyday PC, for serious & varied uses, it is just throwing money away, like a lot of these refurbs posted on here, but at least they are already built and haven't used any more of the planet's resources to make a very pathetic machine!


peodude
Everything? The motherboard, processor, case power supply etc.? They be put together there, but the components still come from all over the world.


VDisillusioned
Some details of this AMD system would be appreciated. I am currently in the market for an always on low power consumption PC with moderate performance. I've looked at the Atom based systems and whilst the power usage is attractive I'm concerned that the maximum performance at times of peak demand would be too low.

There has been a lot of hot air about the Athlon 64 2000+ beating the Atom on power consumption/performance but I'm sceptical about the truth behind this and anyway the parts seem rarer than hens teeth.



There are some issues with using recycled machines:
1.They are not as power efficient
2.They will not have the cpu horsepower
3.They will not be warranted for 3-5 years
4.They will have shorter lives as the components will not be ‘future proof’
5.You have a significantly increased likelyhood of failure due to components being both old and towards the end of life
6.They will not be up to the RoHS legislation (meaning they are full of nasty chemicals and unpleasant non recyclable parts)

Also it is not just the PSU that you have to worry about, you have tdp of the chip, efficiency of the motherboard design, the power consumption of the memory, power consumption of the hard drive, etc....

Transporting goods from China does add significantly to the carbon footprint, but if you look at something like the Toyota Prius, which is a bloody big thing compared to one of our computers; Toyota have done the footprinting on it and it still is greener to run one of those than a normal car. Toyota worked out that the savings pay for the production footprint in something like the first year.....

Working on that model, you can comfortably say that our machines manufacturing and shipping footprint is hugely off set by the power savings
banned#10
Any other queries
#11
My electricity & gas bills were fully paid by my company.

I'd better skip this and get a power machine at home. ;)
#12
1. It depends on the machine. Low powered PC's are not a new idea, some of us have been trying to minimise watts for years through undervolting the CPU, using laptop hard disks and high efficiency PSUs. I'm not saying you can get down to the efficiency of this PC but it's not as clean cut as you might think.

2. I wouldn't bring horsepower in to the discussion when talking about atom :whistling:

3. Good point but who cares when you spend a fraction of the cost? Replace it if/when it dies with another cheap one.

4. No such thing as "future proof". In my experience, every time you "need" to upgrade (as opposed to grabbing the latest graphics card for gaming) you have to pretty much replace everything in your PC anyway. This is even more true with compact PC's such as this where you can't replace a lot of essential items easily, let alone upgrade them.

5. While hard disks and PSUs can and probably will succumb to old age, almost all other components will last a life time if they survive the first few years. Usually components die when there's a manufacturing fault that eventually comes to light fairly quickly. So in my opinion, if it's made it through the first few years then it'll probably keep on going for a fair few more. In any case, as mentioned above, you just replace what you need to at cost.

6. Sorry but this bit makes me laugh; if we don't recycle/reuse these old PCs what do we do with them? Oh yes, chuck them in a landfill where all those nasty chemicals can do their thing. Don't get me wrong, RoHS legislation is great but if you really want to be ecologically sound you'll extend the life of the stuff that is non-compliant.

Dell_in_the_bed

Transporting goods from China does add significantly to the carbon footprint, but if you look at something like the Toyota Prius, which is a bloody big thing compared to one of our computers; Toyota have done the footprinting on it and it still is greener to run one of those than a normal car. Toyota worked out that the savings pay for the production footprint in something like the first year.....

Working on that model, you can comfortably say that our machines manufacturing and shipping footprint is hugely off set by the power savings


Apples and oranges me thinks. I think you'd need to see real figures rather than make guestimates in order to draw any real conclusion from this.

I don't mean to get on anyone's back and I love these energy efficient PCs, have done for years. Atom has potential and is very efficient. But I don't think it's good value for money, which at the end of the day is what this site is all about.
#13
what the company said to me via email.

Darren,

Thank you for your interest in VeryPC.

Our components, as per any other manufacturer of PCs and servers, are sourced from across the world, mostly the USA and China, and some from the EU. This is dependant on which machine you are thinking about.

As for the green issue of shipping components to the UK; yes there is a shipping footprint to take into account but this CO2e burden is easily outweighed by the savings in power at the PC and the reduction of power needing to be draw and produced on the national grid.

I hope this has helped to put your mind somewhat at ease.

Yours Faithfully


Pete Phillips

Head of Sales

VeryPC
Ecology - Economy - Performance
#14
The eee box is better specced at this price so not much of a deal.
#15
hmm this is the company that got laughed off dragons den iirc
These are all standard parts with sortware/drivers a bit tweaked i think
#16
peodude;3192224
Everything? The motherboard, processor, case power supply etc.? They be put together there, but the components still come from all over the world.


Exactly!
#17
i'm not agreen with this thread, this pc sounds like that numpties idea on dragons den. has noone heard of the dell optiplex range ?, the 740/755 are supposedly very energy efficient and have great spec.

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