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Amazing price for a 28" screen! Not the most well-known name but Hanns-G get good user reviews across the board. 1920 x 1200 res.

Product Description - Hanns-G HG281DJ 28 Inch TFT Monitor
Diagonal Size - 27,5" (69,85 cm) Wide
Colour - Black
Device Type - Active Matrix TFT Monitor
Max Resolution - WUXGA 1920 x 1200
Pixel Pitch - 0.309 (H) x 0.309 (V) mm
Interface - VGA (HD-15), HDMI
Response Time - 5 ms
Contrast Ratio - 800:1
Image Brightness - 500 cd/m²
Audio - 2 x 2.5 Watt Stereo Speakers
Display - 16.7 million colours
Viewing Angle - 160° horizontal, 160° vertical
Dimensions - ( W x D x H ) 668 x 211 x 486 mm
Weight - 10.8 kg
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#1
Solid 4* PC World review

If you’re in the market for a large screen, the HG281DJ is a decent quality display that won’t break the bank.


PocketLint mini-review

The HG281DJ is an all-rounder, delivering a good gaming response and offering compromise between a suitable working monitor and a multimedia display
#3
"No stock available, product ordered on demand"

Can't be that good a price if they are just acting as drop shippers.

Might be best to keep an eye out for Ebuyer and others who buy and sell in bulk.
#4
the viewsonic was tempting this is approaching impulse buy territory

4% quidco too
#5
what screen is this ? hope its not a Tn screen like the viewsonic?
#6
"Not the most well-known name.."

Hanns-G are well known for there LCD TV's and Monitors.

Anyways, Voted Hot!
#7
bilals
what screen is this ? hope its not a Tn screen like the viewsonic?


"Contrast levels could be better – there’s some noticeable backlight bleeding in dark scenes – but overall the HD281DJ acquits itself rather well for a TN panel and is capable of delivering vivid, saturated colours beyond our expectations."

http://www.pcw.co.uk/personal-computer-world/hardware/2221156/review-hanns-g-hg281dj-28in-tft

Whats the deal with TN screens?

Also with these cables could you convert any to scart cheaply to use a freeview box to make this a cheap tv?
http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/Gallery/large/2008052211573310.jpg
#8
All cheap LCDs and every single 22" is a TN panel which has less of a viewing angle (it goes black when looking from the sides and below) and usually uses only 6bit colour instead of 8bit, meaning it can only display 200,000 colours instead of 16.7 million and uses dithering to fake the other colours to your eyes. Personally I would never use a TN but for basic home of surfing the web and not image editing or working long hours they are ok.

This explains the different technologies:
http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php

By the way the 20" iMac uses TN where as the 24" uses PVA and the difference is remarkable, well worth paying the extra for the 24".

Oh but if you play games TN have faster response times so that is also something to consider.
banned#9
Id rather pay 20 odd quid more for a 32 inch hd ready lcd tv and use it as a monitor. Just my personal opinion though.
4 Likes #10
Some TN Panels aren't all that bad, but as previous posters have noted, it really depends what your using it for. I think most people would be quite happy with a TN, but obviously, because of the viewing angles/colour variance they aren't very popular with professionals.

Also, a 32" HDTV for £20 more would not be 1920x1200, and would most likely be 1366x768. In practical use (as a PC monitor), you would find that there is a big difference in screen "real estate".

I was looking at the Hanns-G and a few others recently, but am actually thinking of going for the smaller Dell E248WFP (24"). This uses a TN Panel, but seeing as I'm going to be sitting right in front of it, and will only be using it with my PC (I have a 32" samsung lcd for console gaming), a TN panel will prove just fine.

Just to show you an example of a TN Panel vs PVA (the "higher end" type), this is the E248WFP (TN) vs the 2408WFP (PVA):
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/njk56/PICT0132.jpg

As you can see, the PVA panel does have much better viewing angles, but from front on, there isnt much of a noticeable difference (to the average person):
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n292/njk56/PICT0133.jpg

Hope this helps give people a further insight into the differences between them. Note, images were taken from the Hexus forums from an extremely helpfull thread by forum user: shameless.
#11
alexsleat


Also with these cables could you convert any to scart cheaply to use a freeview box to make this a cheap tv?
http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/Gallery/large/2008052211573310.jpg


could you possibly link me to somewhere i could buy the vga to phono adapter?

have been looking for something like this for AGES!!

many thanks in advance
#12
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:
#13
cheapskate58
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:
What are you talking about? Is the lighting not sufficient for you?

He's not trying to demonstrate his photography skill but show us the differences between the screens. And I for one can tell a difference easily because of the images. So thank you.
#14
cheapskate58
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:


You wouldn't conclude that one panel appears brighter and and performs better at extreme viewing angles?

I appreciate the picture difference but I'm not sure it would stop me from buying a large full res TN if the price was right. My PC monitor is just that so viewing angles are a non-issue.

Voted hot! Good price.
#15
cheapskate58;2600770
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:

What a ridiculous thing to say.
#16
More to the point: many thanks for the explanation and posting the pics SPARTAN086 Mike - I for one thought it was nice to see a direct comparison between the two panel types. Rep added.
#17
great deal purchased
note: Stock due Monday 28th July
#18
blizeH
What a ridiculous thing to say.


Well anyone who goes to Curry's to assess picture quality will agree with you!

In all seriousness, pictures must be taken with a pinch of salt because there is absolutely no guarantee that the two screens have been optimised. It would not be difficult to show a budget monitor out-performing a top end monitor, simply as a result of setup.
#19
I originally added the fact that stock wasn't due til Monday but I must have deleted it by accident when editing the post! Monday really isn't long to wait...

pc_tech86;2600702
"Not the most well-known name.."

Hanns-G are well known for there LCD TV's and Monitors.

Anyways, Voted Hot!


Well they're not exactly Samsung or Viewsonic, are they? :whistling:

cheapskate58;2600770
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:


He/she was trying to be helpful and those are decent pics.

However, the first shot is very misleading as obviously the further away screen is at a huge disadvantage by having a greater viewing angle!
#20
Does this display a 16:9 image properly or does it stretch it to 16:10?
#21
Excellent price for a 28" with HDMI. Still inclined to go for the superior Dell, but for under £300, this is still hot.

Th only thing I would add is that in the past we've had some issues with getting an acceptable monitor (22") from HannsG. The first one we purchased had a faulty DVI input; we RMAed it, whereupon the replacement emitted a high-pitched whistle; we RMAed that one, and the replacement also whistled; finally RMAing that one, we received one - the fourth - that seems to be working ok. The delivery man saw the funny side of it by the end!

RMA service wasn't bad, though.
#22
zebrum
By the way the 20" iMac uses TN where as the 24" uses PVA and the difference is remarkable, well worth paying the extra for the 24".

Oh but if you play games TN have faster response times so that is also something to consider.


The 24" iMac uses an IPS panel.

TNs have faster response times on paper since they're measured differently, in real life 5ms TNs are the slowest screens you can get and 2ms ones are about on par with 5-6ms VA/IPS screens.

alexsleat
Also with these cables could you convert any to scart cheaply to use a freeview box to make this a cheap tv?


I believe VGA to SCART is possible.

cheapskate58
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:


I would have to agree, while the pictures are nice to see the horizontal viewing angles they're not good enough to show the artefacts of TN and PVA panels.

Wolfylee
You wouldn't conclude that one panel appears brighter and and performs better at extreme viewing angles?

I appreciate the picture difference but I'm not sure it would stop me from buying a large full res TN if the price was right. My PC monitor is just that so viewing angles are a non-issue.


Brightness is just a matter of what you're got it set up for, most LCDs will go as bright as you want.

At normal viewing distances the horizontal yellow tinge is only noticible if you look hard for it, but vertically the viewing angle artefacts are pretty visible. You may be sitting in front of the screen but you're still viewing the liquid crystals at the top and bottom at an angle. TNs are popular because they're very cheap and functional.
#23
Thanks/rep also to SPARTAN086 for being helpful as it does demonstrate the sort of difference a panel type can make. And lets face it, it was hardly meant to be an in depth review or test, just an example.

Ive used TN monitors for ages and yet while other panels can give superior performance in some areas, a lot of the differences wouldn't be noticed by the everage joe and might end up hurting their wallet buying the best there is when they needn't.

Unfortunately Im the sort of fussy person that once something like a small flaw has been pointed out to me, I'll then look for it and it'll bug me. But if no-one had said anything I'd be none the wiser! Somtimes ignorance is bliss! Personally I think its a good deal and most would be very happy with performance of this.
#24
I am very tempted but currently broke. Do I really need a 28"??? (please say no) lols. Anyway good deal, but ill wait a few more months before splashing on a new monitor. Im sure that price will stay there anyway
#25
lol

No you dont need one!! And there will probably be other hot monitor deals to tempt you before then too......!
#26
:D THank you! My impulsive strength almost overpowered me! :D but looking at 500 cd/m2 and 800:1 on its specs I was less amused. Ta!
#27
A 28" monitor is definitely an acquired taste!

I don't see me every going above 24" for how close I sit. If I ever get dual-screens I might even have to go smaller, especially with widescreens being so... wide.
1 Like #28
cheapskate58;2600419
"No stock available, product ordered on demand"

Can't be that good a price if they are just acting as drop shippers.

Might be best to keep an eye out for Ebuyer and others who buy and sell in bulk.

Is this even listed on Ebuyer's site? No....

cheapskate58;2600770
Utterly awful photography - I wouldn't draw any conclusion regarding the merits of displays based on those "snaps":whistling:


????? What are you on about? This isn't about photographic skill, it's about illustrating a well known and rather obvious difference between the two panel types. I think the photos speak for themselves.

Sadly on this forum people like yourself are more valued than members who go out of their way to help others and give technically sound advice.
#29
nealy £400 2 months ago:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/187436/hannsg-hg281dj-28-tft-monitor-1920x/

slightly different product name (Hanns-G HG281DPB) but it looks like the same monitor?

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=125&Itemid=1


Anyone know Misco's policy on dead pixles?
#30
NeilB;2601768
......while other panels can give superior performance in some areas, a lot of the differences wouldn't be noticed by the everage joe and might end up hurting their wallet buying the best there is when they needn't.
Very good point. I've had a TN 19" widescreen Hanns-G for almost 2 years & has served me very well in all respects, including for photos & games. Admittedly the performance, especially for photos, was not as good as the 15" CRT it replaced, but much more than acceptable in every respect. I'll only ever go back to a CRT if I have no other monitor to use.

I say go for this to anyone who needs the large screen & HDMI connector :thumbsup:. As already mentioned, if you'll be using it for 'pro' photography / CAD work / similar, then may be best to avoid.

SPARTAN086 Mike, many thanks for your very helpful post with the pics & info :)
1 Like #31
Adnan786
Id rather pay 20 odd quid more for a 32 inch hd ready lcd tv and use it as a monitor. Just my personal opinion though.

There are zero 32" 1920x1200 screens for "20 odd quid" more - they cost around £500 at the moment.

cheapskate58
"No stock available, product ordered on demand"
Can't be that good a price if they are just acting as drop shippers.
Might be best to keep an eye out for Ebuyer and others who buy and sell in bulk.

Not sure what you mean by this - Misco have been around for far longer than eBuyer. They used to be known as "Simply Computers" back in the early 90s...

alexsleat
Also with these cables could you convert any to scart cheaply to use a freeview box to make this a cheap tv?
http://img.misco.co.uk/images/uploadedimages/Gallery/large/2008052211573310.jpg

You can make it cheap TV by simply connecting your Component and HDMI devices right up !

It won't take an RGB SCART signal through any input.

zai0s
could you possibly link me to somewhere i could buy the vga to phono adapter?

have been looking for something like this for AGES!!

Phono is the name of the connector, not the video format :)

Are you trying to convert Component Video (Red and Green and Blue phono connectors) to VGA Video ?
If so, you need something like this : http://www.thegametrain.com/1080p-component-to-vga-converter-ypbpr-to-rgbhv-p-182.html

The VGA-->Component cable shown in the photo, will only work specifically because this screen can accept Component Video over it's VGA connector - this is none-standard behaviour, and won't work with a "normal" VGA input. But the convertor box above, will !

EndlessWaves
I believe VGA to SCART is possible.

Not without a convertor box to fix the sync, and double the scanrate :thumbsup:

RGB SCART operates at 15.625kHz, and most VGA screens won't sync any lower than around 30KHz - so although RGB and VGA are very similar, in practice you'll find it doesn't usually work.

You can buy a box to do it though - http://www.cyberselect.co.uk/product/61
#32
Nom;2602926
Phono is the name of the connector, not the video format


I think they may have been being sarcastic ;)
#33
Adnan786
Id rather pay 20 odd quid more for a 32 inch hd ready lcd tv and use it as a monitor. Just my personal opinion though.


But you would'nt get 1920 x 1200 resolution unless you bought the expensive Full HD 32 inches.
#34
I've seen it slightly cheaper although I don't think that included p&p plus they had no stock so this is voted hot even though I already knew about it lol!
#35
pc_tech86;2603977
But you would'nt get 1920 x 1200 resolution unless you bought the expensive Full HD 32 inches.

Sadly some people only care about size and they don't "get" resolution unless you say something like HD. These are usually the same person who say "That digital SLR is only 6mp! My point and shoot is 10 so it must be better!"
#36
306maxi;2604541
Sadly some people only care about size and they don't "get" resolution unless you say something like HD. These are usually the same person who say "That digital SLR is only 6mp! My point and shoot is 10 so it must be better!"


Very true, but these are also usually the kind of people who will buy the cheapest products they can, and assume quality is just as good. So this is exactly who such screen are aimed at.
#37
306maxi
Sadly some people only care about size and they don't "get" resolution unless you say something like HD. These are usually the same person who say "That digital SLR is only 6mp! My point and shoot is 10 so it must be better!"


who are you saying this to?
#38
pc_tech86;2606542
who are you saying this to?

Saying it to you in regards to people like adrian 786 :)
#39
no worries, just asking.
#40
glad i mentioned the tn screen its made some peeps aware of what a tn screen is all about i say dont go rushing into this one as im sure there are going to be other monitors with better screens they are trying to fade out the tn screen so u will see many more cheap deals. thanx spartan for the pics

peace

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