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Saw this advertised in my local Aldi today (not available until Thursday 23rd Oct). It's pretty much an identical copy of my Canon Vixia HF100 (http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-Vixia-HF100-Camcorder-Review-35094.htm) which is a fantastic piece of kit. Obviously the quality of the Aldi one won't be anywhere near the Canon but it is a lot cheaper, so if it's anything like then this is a good deal.
With Aldi you can buy things, try them for 30 days and take them back fro a cash refund if you don't like it. So it's worth trying it out. Hopefully someone else will buy one and report back about the image quality.
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#1
The Canon and the Traveler look completely different to me. Nowhere near "identical".
#2
"It's pretty much an identical copy of my Canon Vixia HF100"

What are you on about?

It's pretty much NON-identical!

You had me going for a minute, but on anything more than the most superficial glance, there is nothing similar about it other than it has a lens at one end and an LCD screen a the side!
The lens cowl? Totally different, The card & usb(?) slot are in totally different places, the inside of the LCD is a totally different layout! (as is the size of the LCD which is BIGGER on the Aldi model! It is hard to see anything that is identical in fact internally the resolution is NOTHING like the Canon, and the optical zoom is different.

Yes it may well be worth trying out, Aldi technology deals HAVE been good in the past, although nothing like as good more recently; but if people are going to expect an OEM Clone version of the Canon, I fear they are going to be very disappointed :-(
#3
[QUOTE=nihcaj]"It's pretty much an identical copy of my Canon Vixia HF100"

"You had me going for a minute, but on anything more than the most superficial glance, there is nothing similar about it other than it has a lens at one end and an LCD screen a the side!"

Thanks for the laugh....
#4
Get one of these instead Link, around £100 Will take better pics
#6
in true HD fashion
it's not full HD


resolution is 1280×720 so 1080i will be upscaled.
#7
azbo
in true HD fashion

resolution is 1280×720 so 1080i will be upscaled.


Surely the point should be "It's a budget camcorder, so likely to have cheap lens, cheap sensor and cheap processing. It's unlikely to focus quickly and will struggle in low light" If it any better than that its a hot deal, but lets face it, it's probably only HD on paper.

Not voted.
#8
azbo;3246302
in true HD fashion

resolution is 1280×720 so 1080i will be upscaled.

Is this supposed to mean something?
#9
Jefft
Is this supposed to mean something?


Yes 1080i is 1920 x 1080 interlaced, this will mean 1280 x 720 upscaled!!!:p:whistling::w00t::thinking::-D
#10
muzzzzzzzzzy;3249196
Yes 1080i is 1920 x 1080 interlaced, this will mean 1280 x 720 upscaled!!!:p:whistling::w00t::thinking:

Still a meaningless comment.:roll: The resolution of this camcorder is 1280 x 720. What has upscaling got to do with it? It will not increase the resolution to 1920 x 1080.
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Jefft
Still a meaningless comment.:roll: The resolution of this camcorder is 1280 x 720. What has upscaling got to do with it? It will not increase the resolution to 1920 x 1080.


Not exactly true because the description resolution is misused (resolution is an instruction to an output device as to how big to output each pixel normally expressed as pixels per inch (ppi) - no metric rubbish here). Any image can have any resolution you like, what matters is how many pixels there are and how close (small) you output to them to a display device.

For example for an image having 300 x 300 pixels outputting this at 300ppi (pixels per inch) will give an image of one inch square. Outputting at 600ppi will reduce the image size to half an inch square. Digital images have no inherent resolution only a pixel count and for the same file format and compression the more pixels the larger the file).

The statement "The resolution of this camcorder is 1280 x 720" is wrong it's not a resolution it's a pixel count. If this camcorder has a lcd screen with a horizontal size of 2.5" then the picture on this screen will have a horizontal resolution of 512ppi (1280/2.5) assuming it can display all the pixels (very unlikely)
Sending the output of this camcorder to a screen that has a matrix of 1280 horizontal and 720 vertical pixels will fill the screen irrespective if the screen has a size of 20" or 100". The picture resolution will however be massively different.

For those of you who have access to digital photo editing software try noting the file size, change the resolution (In Photoshop make sure that resample image is not ticked as this adds or removes pixels). After the change the image will have the same number of pixels and an identical file size. Printing the image will show the difference.

The smaller the pixels are percieved to be from the viewing distance the more detail the picture can resolve. In practice for printed images best quality is attained at around 300dpi and for tvs and monitors about 100dpi (screens are normally viewed further away than photographs).

As an example if the same image is printed at 300dpi and again at 150dpi then the 150dpi print will be twice as large and if viewed at twice the distance as the 300dpi image will appear to resolve fine detail identically.

TV just like film produces the illusion of movement by simply displaying a series of still images in sequence (In the UK and Europe broadcast at normally 25fps. 100hz processed tvs double this by guessing an extra frame between 2 25fps frames. Blueray is 24fps as that's the frame rate used in movies)


High Definition broadcast TV uses either 720p (1280 x 720 pixels progressive) or 1080i (1920 x 1080 pixels interlaced).
In practice on all but the largest TVs the two formats are visually near identical. 720p is said to produce the best picture for rapidly moving objects but in practice virtually all material is broadcast at 1080i.

High Definition TVs normally have either around 1360 x 768 pixels (HD Ready) or 1920 x 1080 pixels (These displays if capable of displaying 1080p are usually labelled FULL HD otherwise they are HD Ready)

HD LCD plasma or lcd TVs have to scale (add (invent) or remove pixels) whatever signal they are given to match their screen pixel count. Generally the nearer the signal frame pixel count is to the native pixel count the better the picture.
For images other than 16:9 these pixels might be black but they are still there (letterbox wide screen dvd for example).

It will be obvious then that 720p is a better fit for the lower pixel count displays and that a 1080i signal will need no scaling to fit the 1920 x 1080 screen

Scaling does not change the picture resolution at all but of course the extra pixels will allow a bigger picture if displayed at the same resolution as the unscaled source.

The camcorder in question (1280 x 720) will be slightly scaled up (each row will have 80 extra pixels and each column 48 extra pixels) feeding a 1360 x 768 screen and much more scaled with the 1920 x 1080 screen. Depending on the quality of the tv scaler it's likely that a 1368 x 768 display will give the best picture with this device.
#12
Well, I went and bought one and have started to put it through its paces. I am impressed with the picture quality, and whilst the focusing is a bit slow, ( sometimes a couple of seconds) it does get there, and colours are very accurate, and the zoom is reasonable fast. It takes decent stills at 5m. I use a Panasonic DV100 and wanted this to use for closeups and I think it is going to do the job. Not very good in low light, and the two led lights on the front are not much use. It is supplied with 2 batteries, (li-ion) and a fully operational remote control. My neighbour complained that there is no input for an external mic, no socket for an external camera and the picture is rubbish on his cheap HD Tele. It looks very good on my Sony however! I would say that this camera is excellent value for the price and I recommend "scoffers" to go and get one, try it out and take it back to the store - but I don't think many will want to take it back. This model is not to be confused with the earlier Traveler which was nowhere near as good.
banned#13
ALDI Traveller HD 10x Product no 5321 now in the Antipodies (Australia) Think it is OK for mid value product
Help is sort re problem of capture of video files into Video making programs eg MS Movie Maker ,Proshow Pro4 etc
Camcorder video files are recorded in H.264 video format convert to MPG4 which are not recognised by above programs and can't be captured. No problem with AVI format from Canon Powershot camera.
Tried installing Codec packages without result. Individual Files will play on MS Windows Media and Quicktime but I want to capture and combine these clips and fit them into a video with photo still slides preferably in Photodex Proshow Producer 4 or alternatively MS Movie Maker
CAN ANY ONE HELP WITH AN ANSWER PLEASE?

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