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1 Like #1
are there different grades of HDMI cables? i went to currys the other day and they had 3 types of hdmi cable (black series, etc..)and they were expensive too (about £80). so would they really improve image quality for BluRay over this HDMI?
banned#2
urinthematrix
are there different grades of HDMI cables? i went to currys the other day and they had 3 types of hdmi cable (black series, etc..)and they were expensive too (about £80). so would they really improve image quality for BluRay over this HDMI?

They are better but the difference is so minor it's not worth it.... To get the latest you need V1.4 which is capable of 3d Blu-ray
1 Like #3
On an episode of the gadget show they got the cheapest and the most expensive hdmi cables and ran them on identical dvd or blue ray players onto identical tvs and there was no difference what so ever .So to pay £80 for a hdmi cable is just a complete rip off . So i would say this is about the right price .

Edited By: Saxon Ghost on Sep 11, 2010 22:55: missed a bit off
#4
digital means the signals are the same on hdmi cables
banned#5
Saxon Ghost
On an episode of the gadget show they got the cheapest and the most expensive hdmi cables and ran them on identical dvd or blue ray players onto identical tvs and there was no difference what so ever .So to pay £80 for a hdmi cable is just a complete rip off . So i would say this is about the right price .

I saw that too and I have also seen with my own eyes the difference an expensive cable can make and it is better. But it's so tiny and only really noticeable on fast moving scenes....
banned 1 Like #6
Zoea
digital means the signals are the same on hdmi cables

Really? wrong, if so then why are 1.3 hdmi cables no good for 3d? they still have the same number of connections but can't handle two streams of 1080p required for HD. You need a 1.4 cable....

USB 1.1 Cables also have the same number of pins as USB 2.0 yet they can't handle USB 2.0 speeds....

Cables are made of different materials (usually Tin or Copper) and the better they're made and with the better materials used the faster they can transfer data.

Same applies with ethernet cables, a Cat 5 cable can;t handle gigabit connections... (although there's more to it than just materials in ths case)...

It's not as simple as it's digital..... That's like saying a Lada is as good as a ferrari as it gets you from a to b
#7
mrpremium
Zoea
digital means the signals are the same on hdmi cables
Really? wrong, if so then why are 1.3 hdmi cables no good for 3d? they still have the same number of connections but can't handle two streams of 1080p required for HD. You need a 1.4 cable....USB 1.1 Cables also have the same number of pins as USB 2.0 yet they can't handle USB 2.0 speeds.... Cables are made of different materials (usually Tin or Copper) and the better they're made and with the better materials used the faster they can transfer data.Same applies with ethernet cables, a Cat 5 cable can;t handle gigabit connections... (although there's more to it than just materials in ths case)...It's not as simple as it's digital..... That's like saying a Lada is as good as a ferrari as it gets you from a to b

Cat5 cable CAN handle gigabit ethernet quite nicely, thanks!
banned#8
urinthematrix
are there different grades of HDMI cables? i went to currys the other day and they had 3 types of hdmi cable (black series, etc..)and they were expensive too (about £80). so would they really improve image quality for BluRay over this HDMI?

No.
banned#9
mrpremium
Zoea
digital means the signals are the same on hdmi cables
Really? wrong, if so then why are 1.3 hdmi cables no good for 3d? they still have the same number of connections but can't handle two streams of 1080p required for HD. You need a 1.4 cable....USB 1.1 Cables also have the same number of pins as USB 2.0 yet they can't handle USB 2.0 speeds.... Cables are made of different materials (usually Tin or Copper) and the better they're made and with the better materials used the faster they can transfer data.Same applies with ethernet cables, a Cat 5 cable can;t handle gigabit connections... (although there's more to it than just materials in ths case)...It's not as simple as it's digital..... That's like saying a Lada is as good as a ferrari as it gets you from a to b
Isn't it?
You got to B, didn't you?
banned#10
BTW.
I've just installed 2 x HDMI leads from £land and the cheapest switchbox I could get.
Picture still perfect.
So go on and spend £100 on a lead.
#11
Why do we always have these silly arguments on HDMI cables in EVERY SINGLE THREAD?

HDMI cables do differ in video tranfser. Meaning, how often it blacks out, loses connection, drops signals etc. It depends on the material and process it's made in. There are cables for less than £5 that are horrible, they rip, their coating falls off, the connecters are loose etc. However there are some good ones (like this cable) which are cheaply priced but just as good as the overprice HDMI cables in the high street.

Just because the cables are overpriced does not mean they're just as good as cheaper cables, they're just OVERPRICED.

If you still don't get it. Go buy these cables and report back on them in a month:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gioteck-1080p-HDMI-Cable/dp/B001GM30GW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1284246717&sr=8-2-spell

Back to the item at hand:

These cables are EXCELLENT. I bought a 1m one for £3 a few months ago and the 2.4m for £2 a few weeks ago. Same seller on Amazon. I'll always recommend these. Seriously, I'm amazed at the amount of quality these have for the price.

Though, they do go on sale quite often. I personally would hold out for another £2 sale but if you need a HDMI cable, go for it.


Edited By: Artheido on Sep 12, 2010 00:15: bad link
1 Like #12
Why even commnet on a sub £3 cable. You must have better things to do in life..or maybe not!!??
#13
Great price!! I wish it was more well known that you don't need to pay top dollar on HDMI cables....
#14
urinthematrix
are there different grades of HDMI cables? i went to currys the other day and they had 3 types of hdmi cable (black series, etc..)and they were expensive too (about £80). so would they really improve image quality for BluRay over this HDMI?


All HDMI cables are identical. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

A £1 HDMI bought from a market somewhere will function identically to one of the ludicrous £100 cables sold in Curry's.

Edited By: eddyday on Sep 12, 2010 00:29: Spelling mistake.
#15
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
#16
clarkeyi
Why even commnet on a sub £3 cable. You must have better things to do in life..or maybe not!!??


You must if you've just commented on it as well.

...

Oh wait, now I commented. Figures.
2 Likes #17
clarkeyi
Why even commnet on a sub £3 cable. You must have better things to do in life..or maybe not!!??

The irony in this comment :D
#18
Thanks, ordered a few. :)
1 Like #19
Digital 0:1 means it works or it doesent. there is no inbetween like analogue equipment.

If you think otherwise then go and get yourself a Monster M2000 HDTV HDMI Cable for $250.00- $1,700.00 ea. and while you are there can i interest you in a small problem i have with my nigerian friend who is having difficulties importing his fifty million pounds to the counrty and just needs your sort code and bank account details.
#20
Thanks
1 Like #21
redheap
Digital 0:1 means it works or it doesent. there is no inbetween like analogue equipment.

If you think otherwise then go and get yourself a Monster M2000 HDTV HDMI Cable for $250.00- $1,700.00 ea. and while you are there can i interest you in a small problem i have with my nigerian friend who is having difficulties importing his fifty million pounds to the counrty and just needs your sort code and bank account details.

A cable doesn't send a 1 or 0, it sends pulses of differential voltages, which are decoded to 1's and 0's. If every 1 and 0 is received perfectly, then you are correct, there is no inbetween, but the bit-error rate is generally not zero. For normal use, its low enough not to care about, but there's still a certain degree of 'quality' in the terms of how well its made, how reliable the connectors are and how long it will last. If its to connect a PS3 to a cheap TV, get a cheap cable; if its to connect a top end blu-ray to a super expensive TV, there are merits in paying a bit extra....

NB This looks quality for the money, 2.4m for £2.50 is a bargain anyway, and it looks a nicely made cable! Hot.

Edited By: jah128 on Sep 12, 2010 01:33: Added comment.
#22
On new mob- so forgive:) - 1.8m is 1.52p.
#23
jah128
redheap
Digital 0:1 means it works or it doesent. there is no inbetween like analogue equipment.

If you think otherwise then go and get yourself a Monster M2000 HDTV HDMI Cable for $250.00- $1,700.00 ea. and while you are there can i interest you in a small problem i have with my nigerian friend who is having difficulties importing his fifty million pounds to the counrty and just needs your sort code and bank account details.


A cable doesn't send a 1 or 0, it sends pulses of differential voltages, which are decoded to 1's and 0's. If every 1 and 0 is received perfectly, then you are correct, there is no inbetween, but the bit-error rate is generally not zero. For normal use, its low enough not to care about, but there's still a certain degree of 'quality' in the terms of how well its made, how reliable the connectors are and how long it will last. If its to connect a PS3 to a cheap TV, get a cheap cable; if its to connect a top end blu-ray to a super expensive TV, there are merits in paying a bit extra....

NB This looks quality for the money, 2.4m for £2.50 is a bargain anyway, and it looks a nicely made cable! Hot.


Agree. Generally, you may see more of a difference when you use a higher grade cable over longer distances. The future imho is optical. Although, not sure why optical audio didn't really pan out so well.
#24
Just don't pay ridicolous amounts of money on it. It is very hard to notice the difference over short lengths with the different cable manufacturers. Gold connectors can be just a marketing hype for example. But I would like to read on a box, what materials or processes they use in the premium cables that make them so overpriced.
#25
Good price :D
#26
its a good price and my sort code is.......
1 Like #27
As long as the data stream makes it down the end of the cable the resulting picture will be 100% identical, anything else simply breaks the laws of physics.

Every single double blind test (where the person watching doesnt know what cable is being used) cannot tell the difference, simply because there is not one.

HDMI cables are the new extended warrenties being pushed by the Dixons of this world.

As for the ferrari, lada comparision, its actually spot on. The car/cable is just a delivery system, the contents, ie the passengers do not change and reach there destination
1 Like #28
Someone did a test, measuring the 1s and 0s coming out the other end. The result was not one single bit of difference at normal distances, using normal resolutions. If however you want to use something higher than the current highest resolution, 1080p, or transfer over distances many metres, then a bit better cable might make a difference.
I do wish more people were aware of this article, takes just a google of "hdmi cables tested", to avoid the endless subjective and unfounded opinions flying back and forth. It's amazing how much rubbish comes out when the word HDMI is mentioned.

http://gizmodo.com/268788/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually
1 Like #29
mrpremium
Zoea
digital means the signals are the same on hdmi cables
Really? wrong, if so then why are 1.3 hdmi cables no good for 3d? they still have the same number of connections but can't handle two streams of 1080p required for HD. You need a 1.4 cable


Erm no.

Will any of the new HDMI 1.4 features require a new cable?

The HDMI Ethernet Channel feature will require a new cable that supports this functionality, either a Standard HDMI Cable with Ethernet or a High Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet, depending on the maximum resolution to be supported. The Automotive Connection System will also employ a new class of cable, the Standard Automotive HDMI cable, which is designed specifically for automotive use.

All of the other new HDMI 1.4 features will be compatible with the existing categories of cables.


http://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_1_4/hdmi_1_4_faq.aspx#5

http://www.hdmi.org/about/index.aspx

And the inability to do Ethernet isn't really a quality issue as it is down to them using a pin/connection that was previously unused.

Edited By: Pondlife on Sep 12, 2010 08:23: ethernet
#30
urinthematrix
are there different grades of HDMI cables? i went to currys the other day and they had 3 types of hdmi cable (black series, etc..)and they were expensive too (about £80). so would they really improve image quality for BluRay over this HDMI?

Don't ever buy cables from Curry's unless you like being ripped off big time.
#31
If it's a licensed specification -HDMI you need to pay a licence and make it to an exact quality- then there's no difference assuming the cable has been produced correctly and it's not been chewed by rats.

Marketing and fools easily parted with their money is the main reason there's £20-£80 HDMI cables out there.

People have to keep saying this because shops (and here) are full of ignorant people who are easily conned by sales ("gold" -my ****) people and a bit of extra fancy packaging. Amazon's own Basic HDMI cable (gold coloured but unlikely to actually have real gold on it) is excellent incidentally.

If you sleep better at night spending £80 that's fine too of course.
#32
Agreed, quite how that joke of a magazine WhatHifi can continue to spout total garbage about digital cables improving colour depth and sound amazes me
#33
I got one of these the last time they were on offer.
I use it for connecting the laptop to the telly.
Excellent cable, also took less than 24 hours to arrive! (same seller)
#34
craigstephens

Cat5 cable CAN handle gigabit ethernet quite nicely, thanks!


Cat5e yes, not Cat5
#35
I bought some of these cables a couple of weeks ago when they were £1.99.
Very happy with the quality.
These are a good buy even at £2.49.
I prefer to buy something of slightly higher quality like this than the cheap ones for a pound.
These look like they are better made and will last longer.
#36
mrpremium
[quote=Zoea]
Really? wrong, if so then why are 1.3 hdmi cables no good for 3d? they still have the same number of connections but can't handle two streams of 1080p required for HD. You need a 1.4 cable....


The 1.3 cable should work fine for 3D, the only difference is cable twisting to support high speed ethernet and prevent crosstalk.
#37
[/quote]Don't ever buy cables from Curry's unless you like being ripped off big time.[/quote]
Agreed - our local store tried to sell my elderly parents a 760p TV for the same price as the same manufacturers 1080p, a HDMI cable for a set-top box that didn't have a HDMI connection for £50 and a five year warranty that would have cost them the same as the TV. Sharks.

To return to the post - these are excellent cables - use them for Blu-ray player, Xbox and DVD player. Quality is great
1 Like #38
mrpremium

I saw that too and I have also seen with my own eyes the difference an expensive cable can make and it is better. But it's so tiny and only really noticeable on fast moving scenes....

No, you haven't, you're talking out of your bottom. They are not better, it's impossible to be better when it's a digital signal.
#39
Adamo
mrpremium

I saw that too and I have also seen with my own eyes the difference an expensive cable can make and it is better. But it's so tiny and only really noticeable on fast moving scenes....

No, you haven't, you're talking out of your bottom. They are not better, it's impossible to be better when it's a digital signal.


unless the cable is able to decode the digital bit stream, read the contents, "improve" it somehow, re-encode it and send it on to the TV then its pretty much impossible for a cable to improve anything
#40
CrazyBob
craigstephens
Cat5 cable CAN handle gigabit ethernet quite nicely, thanks!
Cat5e yes, not Cat5

Ever tried it? Because though it's not supposed to, it can.

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