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Suitable for digital and analogue reception
CAI Benchmarked at STD 2
Includes mounting cradle and clamp.

High Gain Digital Aerial Kit 52 Element also available @ £22.45
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#1
Great price
#2
Great price - thanks
#3
Very Good price for that kit... Thank you
#4
That is a good price incl delivery.
Heat added
#5
Ouch - I paid about £36 years ago for my higain aerial
#6
Question!
Are'nt you ALWAYS better off with the 52 element?

Why do they offer two sizes?

Is it just that you can save money if you are in a strong signal area?
[mod]#7
If you are in an area with a reasonably strong local signal (look what the others have up in your street) then no need to go for a 52 element as all that will do is maybe drag in signals from other transmitters out of your area confusing your auto tune tv into giving you 2 BBC1 & 2 etc also the side lobes on the bigger Aerial may give unwanted signals from transmitters to the left and right of where you are pointing yours. Plus extra length and weight of a 52 element may mean bigger mountings so extra cost there too, if the smaller will do the job dont go for the big one.
#8
To clarify - can this be put into an attic space, and would it be suitable for linking up to one of those tv usb cards that you have on a computer?
[mod] 1 Like #9
Yes you can put it in the attic space BUT the roof tiles will do a very good job of reducing the available signal level, even more so when wet. If you live in a strong signal area then it may be ok but it will be suck it and see. I would go for the 52 element in any loft install unless the transmitter is very close due to the signal loss due to the roof materials.
#10
If your buying a new TV aerial, then make sure you get one designed for the transmitter you get your reception from. Crystal Palace for example is Group A so you will get the best interference free reception using a "Group A" aerial.
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/crystalpalacetx.html
#11
I'm not sure if I need one of these? I have a digital tv in my bedroom and struggle (really struggle) to get any kind of reception with a small aerial - does that mean I need one of these? My downstairs tv works fine but then that plugs into the wall.
#12
I'm after an aerial for the TV at our caravan where picture reception is almost non existant. Do have a Freesat satelite but cannot get Channel 4 through this (my mrs likes to watch Big Brother!), could this aerail be pole mounted?
#13
I bought one of these mothers, it's huge!
#14
Ordered mine! cheers for the post.
#15
cosmic48;4671445
If your buying a new TV aerial, then make sure you get one designed for the transmitter you get your reception from. Crystal Palace for example is Group A so you will get the best interference free reception using a "Group A" aerial.
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/crystalpalacetx.html



I can't see a choice on the site

Am I doing something wrong?
banned#16
Great deal, great price, just dont do a Rod Hull when putting it up
#17
You don't need to worry about banding with any arial branded as 'digital' - as this can be irrelavent as far as picking up digital channels is concerned as the arial is not an electronic device. From exprience, you can get good freeview signals off a coat hanger! All it means is, that it's a wide band arial that will be able to pick up all the freeview multiplexes scattered across the uhf band. Some arials are banded to reduce interference from the entire uhf band. They focus on a single area and block other frequencies. I must say though, if you are in an area that does not get strong signal you are far better off getting an installer to put an arial on your chimney, as they wil have a meter to allign it to the strongest signal. Putting an arial in a roof space loses about a third of the potential signal outside. And rather they fall off than me !
#18
Worth remembering that many digital signal strengths will increase massively after the analogue switchoff. In some cases it's only slight but in others it's huge (1000% etc.).
http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051475
#19
danvman2
the arial is not an electronic device


Quite correct, it's a soap powder or printer font.

An aerial is an device that it receives RF signals.
#20
OBH6UK
Quite correct, it's a soap powder or printer font.

An aerial is an device that it receives RF signals.


An aerial is A device that receives RF signals. :roll:
#21
cosmic48;4671445
If your buying a new TV aerial, then make sure you get one designed for the transmitter you get your reception from. Crystal Palace for example is Group A so you will get the best interference free reception using a "Group A" aerial.
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/crystalpalacetx.html

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Digital aerials are wideband not grouped. Grouped aerials are for analogue TV only and will give poor digital reception as the digital multiplexes are spread across the full band.[/SIZE][/FONT]
MikeT;4671333
...also the side lobes on the bigger Aerial may give unwanted signals from transmitters to the left and right of where you are pointing yours.

[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Longer aerials are more directional and are LESS likely to pick up from the side[/SIZE][/FONT]
#22
I'm a bit confused
Would this aerial work to pick up freeview in an area with strong signal strength?
#23
Jefft
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Digital aerials are wideband not grouped. Grouped aerials are for analogue TV only and will give poor digital reception as the digital multiplexes are spread across the full band.[/SIZE][/FONT]



This is not strictly true as it depends on the transmitter concerned and the situation both pre and post DSO.

So for example Crystal palace was group A for Analogue, is group A for pre-DSO digital and will still be Group A for post DSO digital. The Digital channels are not spread over the UHF spectrum and most peoples existing group A aerials will be perfectly adequate. In a few cases a higher gain Group A aerial will need to be fitted.

Whereas Sandy Heath has analogue chanels on channels 21-39 Pre DSO digital on channels 40-67 and Post DSO digital channels on 21-52. At first sight it may appear that a wideband aerial might be the best choice but after DSO as wideband aerials give response roll off at lower channel numbers the recommendation is a group K.
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[QUOTE=Jefft][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Digital aerials are wideband not grouped. Grouped aerials are for analogue TV only and will give poor digital reception as the digital multiplexes are spread across the full band.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Nonsense in a big font is still nonsense.
http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051054
http://www.ukfree.tv/mapsofsignal_maxnewaerial.php
#25
Jefft
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Digital aerials are wideband not grouped. Grouped aerials are for analogue TV only and will give poor digital reception as the digital multiplexes are spread across the full band.[/SIZE][/FONT]




There is no such thing as a " digital aerial ", that is pure sales hype.
#26
markbloke;4690425
[quote=Jefft;4684003][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]Digital aerials are wideband not grouped. Grouped aerials are for analogue TV only and will give poor digital reception as the digital multiplexes are spread across the full band.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Nonsense in a big font is still nonsense.
http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051054
http://www.ukfree.tv/mapsofsignal_maxnewaerial.php

There is nothing in these 2 links that make my comment nonsense [SIZE=4]BIGFONT [/SIZE]or not
#27
Leadbeter;4685476


Whereas Sandy Heath has analogue chanels on channels 21-39 Pre DSO digital on channels 40-67 and Post DSO digital channels on 21-52. At first sight it may appear that a wideband aerial might be the best choice but after DSO as wideband aerials give response roll off at lower channel numbers the recommendation is a group K.

As Group K rolls off at CH48 a wideband is still preferable.
#28
Jefft;4690721
[quote=markbloke]
There is nothing in these 2 links that make my comment nonsense [SIZE=4]BIGFONT [/SIZE]or not


Apart from in http://www.ukfree.tv/fullstory.php?storyid=1107051054:
"To create the best possible analogue picture, TV transmissions from adjacent transmitters have been designated to several different groups of frequencies. By using an aerial that receives only the channels in the correct group, the analogue picture can be kept free from interference.
To receive Freeview transmissions from the same transmitter it has been [SIZE="7"]sometimes[/SIZE] necessary to use frequencies that are not part of the transmitter's normal group. When this has occurred, the aerial will need to be replaced with a "wideband" aerial (also known as group W) - one that covers every group."

Note the use of the word "sometimes". I put it in a big font so you can read it. The word "sometimes" means "not always", hence your blanket assertion that "digital aerials are wideband not grouped" is nonsense. It was nonsense for you to say that digital signals covered the whole band when this is only sometimes the case.

The other link http://www.ukfree.tv/mapsofsignal_maxnewaerial.php is a map of the country showing where aerial groups will change after switchover. Pink areas show where aerial groups will need to be changed. Orange areas show where aerials might need to be changed if they are not using a local transmitter. The whole country is not coloured pink and orange.
#29
Jefft
As Group K rolls off at CH48 a wideband is still preferable.


Whilst the normal "spec" for a group K is up to C48 in practice there is no roll off until around C55 Generally the gain of a wideband is a compromise over the whole spectrum it is lower than a group K at any channel 21-55. I can assure you that the recommedation for Sandy post DSO is a group K ( live there!)
#30
Ok.
Question?
ARE THESE WIDEBAND AERIALS?

Will these pull in Analogue and also do a good job on terrestial.

Also, I have TWO older aerials - one pointed at Bluebell Hill and the other at Crystal Palace so would I get TWO of these and do the same.

If so can the co-axes be joined with a junction box on the roof, so then only require ONE cable in the house?

Anyone?
#31
They only offer one type so it'd better be wideband.
There's no saying if they'll be any better than the aerials you've already got at receiving analogue and digital. Being newer doesn't mean they're any better than a decent aerial that's been up there for twenty years.
Also, joining two aerials pointing in two different directions will generally result in a horrible mess on your screen.
banned#32
'nonsense in a big font is still nonsense'
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#33
Dragging up an old thread here but the deal remains active and it's a good one, thanks OP. Can anyone who purchase either the 32 element or 52 element let me know the approximate dimensions of the aerial? I want to install one for a relative but have a fairly limited loft space to work in so need to know whether either will fit. Does the 'mounting cradle and clamp' included constitute all I'll need bar coax cable or do I need a fitting kit too? Anyone know the manufactuer of these?

It is to go in a loft on the Isle of Man and I am intending to align it with Winter Hill, some 87 miles away. The existing aerial points there but receives poor analogue and only Mux 5 & 6 Freeview (on a good day). Therefore I think it's actually getting signal from Winter Hill B and a better and wideband aerial might do the trick, so I'm hoping one of these two will be suitable.

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