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* Suitable for digital and analogue reception
* CAI Benchmarked at STD2
* Includes mounting cradle and clamp.

52 element available @ £22.94
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#1
good price :)

for anyone looking for a slightly better one for DIY these work very well.......

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MXLAB450W.html

And don't cut corners by using cheap cable (the old brown easily squashed stuff) use this........

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CAPF100B.html
[mod]#2
money-talks, that one is £27.14 delivered inc vat. It prob is slightly better as you say but its a lot more dosh ;-)
#3
MikeT
money-talks, that one is £27.14 delivered inc vat. It prob is slightly better as you say but its a lot more dosh ;-)


Agreed, it's like the cable you can buy it cheaper, if cheap is your top priority.

But as we are all spending out on super tv sets and the digital signal is not always great,
I was suggesting if you are doing DIY and saving on getting someone in to fit your aerial, it's
worth spending a (little) bit more on a good aerial and cable.

I did mine recently, using this kit and it works fine, I also bought a cheap signal meter to set it up
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MX27866R.html

:)

and for the nth time I don't work for TLC :p
#4
Worth noting there is no such thing as a digital aerial.
#5
JonDOnnis
Worth noting there is no such thing as a digital aerial.


Yeah, it's one of those nonsense phrases that makes me grind my teeth, but it's so commonly used I've given up moaning about it. :whistling:
#6
money-talks
Agreed, it's like the cable you can buy it cheaper, if cheap is your top priority.

But as we are all spending out on super tv sets and the digital signal is not always great,
I was suggesting if you are doing DIY and saving on getting someone in to fit your aerial, it's
worth spending a (little) bit more on a good aerial and cable.



Yes, agree 100%, for the sake of another tenner or so on a DIY install it's worth using decent low loss well screened cable and an antenna that won't fall to bits once it's been exposed to UV for a few years ( I'm not suggesting this particular aerial is crap) . - unless you live on top of the transmitter in which case a bent coathanger will probably do.
#7
I had trouble getting a decent digital tv reception when I was using a normal aerial with a booster, then I went to maplin and bought something similar to this for £19.99, assembled it, put it in the loft above my room, now all the digi channels work like a dream. Thoroughly recommend getting one of these and doing the same thing.
#8
olliehayman
I had trouble getting a decent digital tv reception when I was using a normal aerial with a booster, then I went to maplin and bought something similar to this for £19.99, assembled it, put it in the loft above my room, now all the digi channels work like a dream. Thoroughly recommend getting one of these and doing the same thing.


In many situations a booster can actually make reception worse rather than better, particularly with early digital receivers that didn't handle high signal levels well. Worst case you are just amplifying noise and out of band signals rather than the wanted signals.

Agreed it's often a reasonable strategy to try a loft aerial first, avoids the risk of doing a Rod Hull. OTOH if all your neighbours are using external aerials there's a pretty good chance you'll need one as well.
#9
I bought one of these from Screwfix a few weeks ago, looks quite delicate, don't think it'll last well.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/41700/Electrical-Supplies/TV-Range/Aerials-Fixings/Labgear-TV-Aerial-Digital-32-Element
#10
I'm living in a rented student house until June, and then another from June, and then another after that. Could I get this to work by clamping it to wardrobes/desks etc and manoeuvring it to fit?
Our landlord was too tight to fit aerial points in each room. I've tried the boosted small ones, to no avail.
#11
alexthornton
I'm living in a rented student house until June, and then another from June, and then another after that. Could I get this to work by clamping it to wardrobes/desks etc and manoeuvring it to fit?
Our landlord was too tight to fit aerial points in each room. I've tried the boosted small ones, to no avail.


It depends totally on your location; if you're close to a big transmitter without too many buildings / trees in the way then quite possibly.
#12
voted hot :thumbsup:

Had no problems with Toolstation products, and find them a lot cheaper than elsewhere, including auction sites, and screwfix.

I use the collect at store service frequently, even for items less than £1, never had any problems. i get served straight away and staff are good fun.
1 Like #13
Shambolic
I bought one of these from Screwfix a few weeks ago, looks quite delicate, don't think it'll last well.

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/41700/Electrical-Supplies/TV-Range/Aerials-Fixings/Labgear-TV-Aerial-Digital-32-Element


I did the same. It was only meant for a loft instalation, but reckon it was too flimsy for that! Anyway, I set it up, but reception was rubbish. I replaced with a one that looks identical to the model money-talks recommends. Much better construction, with good reception.
#14
new to this aerial malarkey... only half our freeview channels work well enough on the old aerial we've currently got. Anyone know how i can work out what kind of aerial I'll need?
1 Like #15
If you need any help re signal then happy to advise, put your postcode into http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/ and tick am in the TV trade as gives you detailed info.
This will be useful for transmitters that use channels 45+ really but A group transmitters will not be as good.
#16
Watch out for the big 3 boom aerials as the TLC one above. They are much heavier than the others and can sag on the mount so reducing the signal strength.

Dave
#17
JonDOnnis;8021986
Worth noting there is no such thing as a digital aerial.

Yes there was, a digital aerial was a wide band aerial (which could be seen as the elements are spaced apart at increasing intervals, a traditional narrow band area has it's emements equally spaced. This was so that one aerial could be used in all areas. In some areas this was necessary as some of the new transmissions were broadcasting on new frequencies.
In many areas, they remained the same but at lower power.
#18
jasee
Yes there was, a digital aerial was a wide band aerial (which could be seen as the elements are spaced apart at increasing intervals, a traditional narrow band area has it's emements equally spaced. This was so that one aerial could be used in all areas. In some areas this was necessary as some of the new transmissions were broadcasting on new frequencies.
In many areas, they remained the same but at lower power.


There's nothing 'digital' about a wideband aerial though, aerials are completely insensitive to the modulation of the signals they're receiving. I appreciate that you are correct in that widebands are sold as 'digital' for the reason you state, but it's basically marketing not engineering to describe an aerial as digital. My wideband works with analogue signals fine...
1 Like #19
Just worth noting that not all T.V aerials are the same :thumbsup: . Some have vertical directors on them, some horizontal and some are crossed + the width of these and lenght of the aerial can change !. These all effects the gain & frequency it can receive as different transmitters transmit on different frequencies to avoid interfering with each other . I guess what i'm getting at is it is worth checking that this aerial will work correctly with your transmitter before buying it :thumbsup:.

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/aerials.html#aerialgroups for techno info + they tell you if your trnsmitter is a/b/c/d group to help you pick your aerial. :thumbsup:
#20
Dave777
Watch out for the big 3 boom aerials as the TLC one above. They are much heavier than the others and can sag on the mount so reducing the signal strength.

Dave


Lurking an relevant newsgroups these triple boom jobs are largely regarded as a pointless marketing ploy which offer no advantage over a decent single boom.

Some interesting data here if you're into that sort of thing:-

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/tvaerialtests.html
#21
money-talks
Agreed, it's like the cable you can buy it cheaper, if cheap is your top priority.

But as we are all spending out on super tv sets and the digital signal is not always great,
I was suggesting if you are doing DIY and saving on getting someone in to fit your aerial, it's
worth spending a (little) bit more on a good aerial and cable.

I did mine recently, using this kit and it works fine, I also bought a cheap signal meter to set it up
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MX27866R.html

:)

and for the nth time I don't work for TLC :p


I posted and installed one of these last summer in my loft. Being really tight I took the small lcd tv from our bedroom into the loft with me and used it's signal readout to find the best direction.
#22
Dave777
Watch out for the big 3 boom aerials as the TLC one above. They are much heavier than the others and can sag on the mount so reducing the signal strength.

Dave


Depends on what size mast and brackets you use, they must support the weight you are attaching, I used a large diameter 2" mast, which is rock solid

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3085469/IMG_0279_1.JPG
#23
Good price. But if you have some foil and coat hangers and 2hrs. I made one of these and it cost me particularly nothing and it picks up all the freeview I can in my area. Diy HDTV Antenna
#24
I've had 2 of these aerials (from Toolstation) for over 6 months now and both give a perfect signal / picture. One's external and one's in the loft and for the money, they cant be beaten. I just used the cable that came with them ( 10m I think ) and it works fine.

A lot obviously depends on your property's location in relation to transmitter
#25
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SLx-27884D-Element-Digital-Aerial/dp/B000NH8516/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1267793030&sr=8-3
may be worth paying the extra for this one...it's in my loft and works really well picking up all freeview channels.
#26
goodevil
Good price. But if you have some foil and coat hangers and 2hrs. I made one of these and it cost me particularly nothing and it picks up all the freeview I can in my area. Diy HDTV Antenna


Even further down the DIY route:-

http://diyfreetv.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-build-tv-antenna-from-beer-can.html
#27
Badhipalfie
I did the same. It was only meant for a loft instalation, but reckon it was too flimsy for that! Anyway, I set it up, but reception was rubbish. I replaced with a one that looks identical to the model money-talks recommends. Much better construction, with good reception.



Funny that because I did the same and the reception was perfect after replacing an old aerial (in the loft). The Screwfix one mentioned is well made and is perfectly adequate for a loft. A lot of our opinions may be subject to where we all live in relation to height and distance from the transmitter, so a good aerial for one person could be a poor to average one to another.
#28
I've used Toolstation a few times........good company.
#29
Since DSO (digital switch over) our signal has increased so much that we now get a perfect picture on all channels from both the Granada and Wales regions using a simple £6 indoor aerial and we live a good 20 miles from either transmitter.

Before DSO we couldn't get ANY Freeview channels with an indoor aerial at all.

Before you lash out on this or any costly instalation, my advice would be to check when DSO is happening in your area as that "dodgy" aerial that doesn't work Freeview channels right now you may likely find picks up the whole lot after DSO.
#30
Taksim_Red
Since DSO (digital switch over) our signal has increased so much that we now get a perfect picture on all channels from both the Granada and Wales regions using a simple £6 indoor aerial and we live a good 20 miles from either transmitter.

Before DSO we couldn't get ANY Freeview channels with an indoor aerial at all.

Before you lash out on this or any costly instalation, my advice would be to check when DSO is happening in your area as that "dodgy" aerial that doesn't work Freeview channels right now you may likely find picks up the whole lot after DSO.


Our area is due for 'DSO' in 2011, and then more transmitters will be available. So I might try a loft aerial for the time being, before getting someone to go on the roof, only to have to come back and possibly change direction of aerial when Freeview HD becomes available. Up the road from us, Freeview HD is available at the end of this month, but we must wait.
#31
screwfix do similar price
#32
http://www.aerialsuperstore.co.uk/antiference-lp28f-tv-aerial-12-p.asp

Something like this would be fine in a lot of installs, or the log40 on the excellant ATV site as has a great flat gain curve. I am now lucky in that have one in my loft running through a 6 way splitter, and get all channels, but then am about 2 miles from my TX.

If you are trying to get digital from transmitters that broadcast on the A group of aerials (bilsdale comes to mind) then you really should get the right aerial, as these widebands will not work well
#33
This is a good product at a keen price, made by Commtel. The Toolstation description scarcely does it justice as it comes complete with a short mast (ideal for a loft), wall bracket and fixings, 10m co-ax cable (attached) and even a coax plug and a few cable clips. Just be aware that 10m of cable is unlikely to be enough for many installations and a longer mast (also available from Toolstation, e.g. 3' cranked version) may be beneficial to gain height. Apart from changing or extending the cable if necessary, all you will need is a few more cable clips and some tape or cable ties.

I fitted one the other day so my elderly Mum can watch TV in bed; much easier than trying to use the existing aerial in her front room. The assembly of the aerial is a little fiddly and time-consuming but straightforward enough, as is the erection; the instruction booklet is comprehensive. Digital reception was excellent - after I realised that the polarisation should be vertical (not usual for a main transmitter but there are exceptions!).

Whilst working at height (especially if fixing externally above roof level) is not everyone's cup of tea and probably best avoided, this kit does enable the competent DIYer to save £100 or more on installation costs for an hour or two of work.

I agree with the earlier comments about using good-quality cable, if that supplied is not sufficient. But, if replacing an existing aerial, it is worth trying to re-use the existing cable (if not deteriorated) as this will save time and money and may work perfectly well. Nothing really to lose by trying it.
#34
dmaster2000
screwfix do similar price


But Screwfix don't do free delivery do they?:roll:
#35
Wow..Even though I don't know where the Toolstation is. The deal is smoking hot. Can't get anywhere cheaper than this.
#36
NT14
Our area is due for 'DSO' in 2011, and then more transmitters will be available. So I might try a loft aerial for the time being, before getting someone to go on the roof, only to have to come back and possibly change direction of aerial when Freeview HD becomes available. Up the road from us, Freeview HD is available at the end of this month, but we must wait.


Suggest you try it when the other TX switched as you may be lucky, up the road may mean that you could get reception, as it is not like cable or broadband that depends on an exchange connection, places that should not get recption often can... I used to get full freeview recption from Emley Moor about 20miles and a big hill in the way. Whereas 2 miles away I couldn't get Keighley TX at all, my postcode stated no freeview available from either.

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