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After my previous FAIL post. Here is a much better deal.

It meets all my requirements for a TVMonitor.

LED Backlit
Full HD 1080p
PC input and HDMI
Audio Out
22" Widescreen
Freeview Digital Tuner

Here's the info from the site. I've just reserved one to collect from my local store. There was also a few in other stores nearby me (Preston Area).

LCD with LED backlight TV:
Full HD 1080p.
Built in Freeview tuner.
Ultra thin design.

Television picture quality:
Full HD (1080p).
Integrated digital.
Freeview digital tuner.
22in (55cm) widescreen TV with 22in (55cm) visible screen size.
Resolution 1920 x 1080 pixels.
50Hz.
Brightness 250cd/m2.
Contrast ratio 1000:1.
Viewing angle 170/160 degrees.
Progressive scan.

Connectivity:
1 HDMI socket.
1 SCART socket.
PC input socket.
Component video socket.
Composite.
Headphone socket.
AV socket (side).
1 USB port.

Sound quality:
NICAM stereo sound system.
2 x 2.5 watts RMS power output.

Digital features:
Digitally interactive.
Digital text.
Digital video broadcasting (DVB) subtitles available.
Auto setup.
Auto scan for new channels.
Now and next programme guide.
7 day electronic programme guide (EPG).
CI slot.
Audio description compatible.

Additional features:
UHF/VHF tuner.
Sleep timer.
Child lock.
Remote control batteries required 2 x AAA (included).
Size of TV H34.5, W53.5, D2cm.
Weight of TV 4.4kg (unpackaged).
Complete with tabletop stand.
Size of TV with stand H38, W53.5, D13.5cm.
Weight of TV with stand 4.2kg.
Suitable for wall mounting.

Energy efficiency information:
Standby power consumption 0.1 watt.
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#1
Here's my last post for a TV. My intentions for posting it was to see if anyone came up with a better deal. Unfortunately it just went freezing without any suggestions.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/foehn-hirsch-22-led-tv-monitor-full/777775

2 hours of searching later, and I've bought one for £50 less and from a better known brand.
#2
heat simply for the OPs humility
#3
No price visible on my phone. How much please?
#4
No price visible on my phone. How much please?
#5
Cheers! Just purchased 1. 1 left in Sheffield now :)
#6
£169.99 CyBerman
#7
£169.99. I'll add it to the title :)

I can't understand why this is getting a load of cold votes. I've been searching ages and can't find anything of this spec for less than £200. Maybe it's Argos haters :)

Edited By: kebabthief on Oct 14, 2010 19:44: avoiding double post.
#8
Could'nt resist this one, reserved the last one at my local store.......:D
#9
bazza60
Could'nt resist this one, reserved the last one at my local store.......:D


Glad to hear some are benefitting from it :) picking mine up tomorrow.
#10
Great price for a LED TV and Yes OP it's a much better deal then your last post. :D

Edited By: Zuulan on Oct 14, 2010 21:58: icon
#11
Hot from me,nice bit of kit for the money :)
#12
hot.thx op.reserved one.
#13
Zuulan
Great price for a LED TV and Yes OP it's a much better deal then your last post. :D


Hehe thanks. I was considering buying the screen on my first post but decided to let people think first. When it turned into an epic fail, I was glad that I didn't take the plunge.
#14
OP, you need to add the retailer to the title.

It's a shame Hitachi are only any good at making power tools. It is a good price for what it is but don't expect a blisteringly good picture. I don't see the point of 1080p on a screen of this size anyway to watch tv/films, it's of not benefit to anyone (this is not my opinion, it is fact).

http://www.myce.com/news/beware-the-1080p-hd-scam-on-small-screens-33243/

While 1080p can have benefits on smaller HD computer screens that will be used for text and graphics, there is likely no discernable difference when watching TV or movies when compared to the same size 720p screen.

“To see 1,080 vertical lines of resolution you need at least a TV of about 46 inches to fully see it,” states Gary Merson, editor of HDGuru.com. “At 26 inches, forget it, you won’t tell the difference.”
#15
simate
OP, you need to add the retailer to the title.

It's a shame Hitachi are only any good at making power tools. It is a good price for what it is but don't expect a blisteringly good picture. I don't see the point of 1080p on a screen of this size anyway to watch tv/films, it's of not benefit to anyone (this is not my opinion, it is fact).

http://www.myce.com/news/beware-the-1080p-hd-scam-on-small-screens-33243/


While 1080p can have benefits on smaller HD computer screens that will be used for text and graphics, there is likely no discernable difference when watching TV or movies when compared to the same size 720p screen.

“To see 1,080 vertical lines of resolution you need at least a TV of about 46 inches to fully see it,” states Gary Merson, editor of HDGuru.com. “At 26 inches, forget it, you won’t tell the difference.”


Simate. Thanks for your input. The main reason that 1080p was one of my requisites is that I'll be using it as a monitor primarily. I currently have a PC and an XBOX 360 also connected to my 19" non-widescreen, but have a faffy switch system that passes through the audio and contains loads of wires. When considering a replacement, I was weighing up different LED monitors but most didn't have either speakers or audio outs. Hence why I went for a TV/Monitor.

I will use the screen at full resolution on my PC and XBOX 360. I'm not really that bothered about the TV functionality as I have a big LCD in the same room but it'll add flexibility for future use.

Spec for price though. I couldn't find anything anywhere close to this.

edit: and added the retailer to the title. thanks for the heads up.

Edited By: kebabthief on Oct 15, 2010 00:03: added retailer
#16
kebabthief
Here's my last post for a TV. My intentions for posting it was to see if anyone came up with a better deal. Unfortunately it just went freezing without any suggestions.http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/foehn-hirsch-22-led-tv-monitor-full/7777752 hours of searching later, and I've bought one for £50 less and from a better known brand.

Good show of humility indeed. Makes a welcome change to this:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/lg-w2230s-nf-21-5-lcd-1080-monitor-/776869?page=3

Went hot pretty quickly yet the OP moans and insults others who came up with even the slightest of negative comments!

Edited By: DaveTaylor on Oct 15, 2010 00:04: .
#17
I hope everyone realises that this is NOT an LED TV. It is an LCD with LED backlight
2 Likes #18
miniman
I hope everyone realises that this is NOT an LED TV. It is an LCD with LED backlight


Gah, All of them are. Find me one that isn't if you can.

The technology is a change from using neon tubes to show the light to using LEDs around the edge. All LED monitors use an LCD screen. It's just a different way of illuminating it.
#19
kebabthief
miniman
I hope everyone realises that this is NOT an LED TV. It is an LCD with LED backlight


Gah, All of them are. Find me one that isn't if you can.

The technology is a change from using neon tubes to show the light to using LEDs around the edge. All LED monitors use an LCD screen. It's just a different way of illuminating it.

is this LED-backlit LCD television the same technology as samsungs LED TV's?
#20
Was in morrisons the other day in baxters lane st.helens, they have a techwood 22" led for £149, not a decent brand but compared to the others on display I would highly recommend these led screens, it was head and shoulders above the others, the wife wouldn't entertain it though! :(
#21
Thank you.
Just nabbed the last one from my local.
Perfect second monitor for capturing PS3 footage.
#22
Got a hitachi 22" from Argos the other day w/DVD built in. Wanted it for my daughters bedroom to hook up her ps2 via component as it stated it had one on the website. Got it hone and it had no component. So just saying be careful if you want this input as my one did not have it. Took it back with no problems though. Just one last thing I bought a bush 19" at the sane time for my son and Argos website also said it had a component input but it never and although both tvs where by different makes they had THE SAME backs and remote controls!
#23
kebabthief
Here's my last post for a TV. My intentions for posting it was to see if anyone came up with a better deal. Unfortunately it just went freezing without any suggestions.

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/foehn-hirsch-22-led-tv-monitor-full/777775


2 hours of searching later, and I've bought one for £50 less and from a better known brand.


so what your saying is that it was right that your other deal went cold :{
#24
Does anyone know if this can play avi divx from the usb?

Thanks
#25
Sorry forgot to add anyone who has one, I know its LED but is it as thick as the normal LCD?
#26
yaz84
kebabthief
Here's my last post for a TV. My intentions for posting it was to see if anyone came up with a better deal. Unfortunately it just went freezing without any suggestions.
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http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/foehn-hirsch-22-led-tv-monitor-full/777775


2 hours of searching later, and I've bought one for £50 less and from a better known brand.


so what your saying is that it was right that your other deal went cold :{


Hehe. Yes it was right. It would have been nice to have been given some direction by those voting cold, but it indicated to me that it wasn't a great deal. Hence why I did a couple of hours of searching.


ma6378
Sorry forgot to add anyone who has one, I know its LED but is it as thick as the normal LCD?


Generally they're a lot thinner. I'll be picking mine up in a couple of hours, so I'll let you know. I wish they quoted dimensions with and without the stand.
#27
kebabthief - it seems to be 4cm thick, without stand, of course.

http://www.hitachidigitalmedia.com/product_techspec.do?pt=17&pg=85&proid=705&language=en&country=GB

look under specifications, general.

Edited By: tightpants on Oct 15, 2010 10:46: .
#28
kebabthief
Simate. Thanks for your input. The main reason that 1080p was one of my requisites is that I'll be using it as a monitor primarily. I currently have a PC and an XBOX 360 also connected to my 19" non-widescreen, but have a faffy switch system that passes through the audio and contains loads of wires. When considering a replacement, I was weighing up different LED monitors but most didn't have either speakers or audio outs. Hence why I went for a TV/Monitor.

I will use the screen at full resolution on my PC and XBOX 360. I'm not really that bothered about the TV functionality as I have a big LCD in the same room but it'll add flexibility for future use.

Spec for price though. I couldn't find anything anywhere close to this.

edit: and added the retailer to the title. thanks for the heads up.


If you have a large lcd in the same room why on earth don't you hook your 360 up to that!? It seems such a waste.
#29
simate
OP, you need to add the retailer to the title.

It's a shame Hitachi are only any good at making power tools. It is a good price for what it is but don't expect a blisteringly good picture. I don't see the point of 1080p on a screen of this size anyway to watch tv/films, it's of not benefit to anyone (this is not my opinion, it is fact).

http://www.myce.com/news/beware-the-1080p-hd-scam-on-small-screens-33243/


While 1080p can have benefits on smaller HD computer screens that will be used for text and graphics, there is likely no discernable difference when watching TV or movies when compared to the same size 720p screen.

“To see 1,080 vertical lines of resolution you need at least a TV of about 46 inches to fully see it,” states Gary Merson, editor of HDGuru.com. “At 26 inches, forget it, you won’t tell the difference.”


46"! His wife has obviously been flattering him and telling him something is bigger than it really is. There is a lot of argument/presentation of fact about this but the article hardly qualifies it as fact and the comments below it are interesting...
1 Like #30
simate
kebabthief
Simate. Thanks for your input. The main reason that 1080p was one of my requisites is that I'll be using it as a monitor primarily. I currently have a PC and an XBOX 360 also connected to my 19" non-widescreen, but have a faffy switch system that passes through the audio and contains loads of wires. When considering a replacement, I was weighing up different LED monitors but most didn't have either speakers or audio outs. Hence why I went for a TV/Monitor.

I will use the screen at full resolution on my PC and XBOX 360. I'm not really that bothered about the TV functionality as I have a big LCD in the same room but it'll add flexibility for future use.

Spec for price though. I couldn't find anything anywhere close to this.

edit: and added the retailer to the title. thanks for the heads up.


If you have a large lcd in the same room why on earth don't you hook your 360 up to that!? It seems such a waste.


Simate. There's often a fight for what goes on that TV. Unfortunately, CBeebies usually wins. There's only so much ZingZillas that a grown man can take.

tightpants
kebabthief - it seems to be 4cm thick, without stand, of course.

http://www.hitachidigitalmedia.com/product_techspec.do?pt=17&pg=85&proid=705&language=en&country=GB


look under specifications, general.


Thanks tightpants. I suppose it's a couple of cm thinner than my current 19" lcd. Still thin enough for me though :)


Edited By: kebabthief on Oct 15, 2010 11:44: adding quote
#31
If someone buys one please post a brief review as I couldn’t find one online.
There’s no point in buying it just because it has LED back lighting if it’s a crap TV as there are other TVs without the LED feature for the same price that might be better!

It says 1080P only via HDMI so I’d be grateful to know if you can connect a PC via VGA at the native resolution as I have a Netbook which I’d like to hook up and that’s VGA only.
Cheers OP, it looks a good deal, at least on paper.
#32
Agharta
If someone buys one please post a brief review as I couldn’t find one online.
There’s no point in buying it just because it has LED back lighting if it’s a crap TV as there are other TVs without the LED feature for the same price that might be better!

It says 1080P only via HDMI so I’d be grateful to know if you can connect a PC via VGA at the native resolution as I have a Netbook which I’d like to hook up and that’s VGA only.
Cheers OP, it looks a good deal, at least on paper.


I've just picked mine up. I haven't set it up yet, but will do after my lunch :)

I'm not sure if 1080p is possible over VGA, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll let you know once it's fired up.
#33
simate
OP, you need to add the retailer to the title.It's a shame Hitachi are only any good at making power tools. It is a good price for what it is but don't expect a blisteringly good picture. I don't see the point of 1080p on a screen of this size anyway to watch tv/films, it's of not benefit to anyone (this is not my opinion, it is fact).http://www.myce.com/news/beware-the-1080p-hd-scam-on-small-screens-33243/While 1080p can have benefits on smaller HD computer screens that will be used for text and graphics, there is likely no discernable difference when watching TV or movies when compared to the same size 720p screen.“To see 1,080 vertical lines of resolution you need at least a TV of about 46 inches to fully see it,” states Gary Merson, editor of HDGuru.com. “At 26 inches, forget it, you won’t tell the difference.”

Well it seems Gary doesn't have a clue of what he is talking about. Resolution is resolution and 1080p is 1080p. 1080p is the same at 100" as it is at 20", 1080p does not change just because the screen gets smaller. All that changes is the pixels get smaller, hence why you have to move closer. The difference between 720p and 1080p is going to be the same at 100" as they are at 20", you will just need to move closer to the screen to notice the difference. This myth is years old and should have already died out by now.
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I've just set it up and it seems a really nice TV. The picture quality is fantastic and it's a really slim panel.

Unfortunately for me, Agharta's concerns were right. It's 1080p going through the HDMI socket but the maximum resolution that it could get through the VGA PC input is only 1365x768 (720p?). I'd have been happy with 1600x900. The windows icons at 1365x768 make me feel like I've had my PC supplied by my social worker for special needs.

So, my first deal to get hot isn't a great product for me. But for someone who wants a TV/Games Console display first, computer monitor second, then this is still a hot deal.

I'm now strongly considering buying the one at ebuyer that I suggested first considering that the price is only £189.99 now. I've just called ebuyer and they confirmed that it supports 1920x1080 through the VGA cable.
#35
Does it defo have component as i have an old 360 with no hdmi ?
#36
kebabthief
The windows icons at 1365x768 make me feel like I've had my PC supplied by my social worker for special needs.


X)
#37
Nearest one is 11 miles away, reserved just incase.
#38
Any reviews about?
#39
Hi Kebabthief1,

Have you thought about getting a GPU card with hdmi output?, graphics cards with hdmi are really cheap now and you should get the best from the TV.

Also any chance you could test the usb port to see if it plays avi's, divx etc.

Thanks mate

kebabthief1 person likes this
I've just set it up and it seems a really nice TV. The picture quality is fantastic and it's a really slim panel.

Unfortunately for me, Agharta's concerns were right. It's 1080p going through the HDMI socket but the maximum resolution that it could get through the VGA PC input is only 1365x768 (720p?). I'd have been happy with 1600x900. The windows icons at 1365x768 make me feel like I've had my PC supplied by my social worker for special needs.

So, my first deal to get hot isn't a great product for me. But for someone who wants a TV/Games Console display first, computer monitor second, then this is still a hot deal.

I'm now strongly considering buying the one at ebuyer that I suggested first considering that the price is only £189.99 now. I've just called ebuyer and they confirmed that it supports 1920x1080 through the VGA cable.
#40
kebabthief1 person likes this
I've just set it up and it seems a really nice TV. The picture quality is fantastic and it's a really slim panel.

Unfortunately for me, Agharta's concerns were right. It's 1080p going through the HDMI socket but the maximum resolution that it could get through the VGA PC input is only 1365x768 (720p?). I'd have been happy with 1600x900. The windows icons at 1365x768 make me feel like I've had my PC supplied by my social worker for special needs.


Just before you totally give up on it, read up on 'Disabling DDC' here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Data_Channel

VGA connections report to the host PC the resolutions that they support, and Windows generally complies by restricting your choices to those. Sometimes there is an option in the display properties to disable that, letting you try to send it any resolution. You may just get a blank screen or a distorted picture if the TV/monitor really isn't capable of it, but it's usually worth a try.

The more extreme option is to break pin 12 on the VGA cable, preventing the monitor from describing itself to the PC down the data channel. If you've got "spare" VGA cables laying around and can't find a means to do it in Windows, that's an option.

As others have said, most graphics cards now have HDMI or DVI (which can be cheaply converted to HDMI via adaptors) so you may get more for your money buying a 'cheap' (£40-£50ish) video card rather than a more expensive monitor, especially if you're upgrading from on-board VGA.

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