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Hive 2 - Active Heating and Hot Water without installation (works with Amazon Alexa) £135.99 @ Amazon

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#1
cheaper than I was offered by British gas the other day (150)
1 Like #2
How much is installation? Roughly.
#3
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.


£199.99 with installation on Amazon.
#4
hr08
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.
£199.99 with installation on Amazon.
Is that good?
1 Like #5
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.
1 Like #6
hr08
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.
£199.99 with installation on Amazon.

£174 with installation Amazon Warehouse deal
#7
Bought from Amazon for £179 black Friday, not installed yet. Hope I can claim difference?
1 Like #8
kwh
hr08
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.
£199.99 with installation on Amazon.
Is that good?

Nest is better but Hive is much cheaper.
Also, depends if you want to add nest cam / smoke detectors later on
#9
agneepath
kwh
hr08
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.
£199.99 with installation on Amazon.
Is that good?
Nest is better but Hive is much cheaper.
Also, depends if you want to add nest cam / smoke detectors later on

What does Nest do better than Hive?
2 Likes #10
Nest learns, Hive has different integration. Hive has plugs, bulbs and sensors. Nest has camera, smoke alarm etc. Nest may come into its own with Google Home. I've just had my Hive installed and love it. No point having a Nest as my wife works random shifts.
#11
can someone please let me know if the thermostat can run on batteries or does it require hard wiring?
1 Like #12
qwerta369
agneepath
kwh
hr08
kwh
How much is installation? Roughly.
£199.99 with installation on Amazon.
Is that good?
Nest is better but Hive is much cheaper.
Also, depends if you want to add nest cam / smoke detectors later on
What does Nest do better than Hive?

I think long term Nest is better and will have better support / hardware additions
e.g. Hive doesn't have a smoke alarm yet.
I went for the cheaper option of buying the hIve, and very pleased with it so far. Looking to buy Hive door / window sensors but reviews are mixed on those.
1 Like #13
deepu25
can someone please let me know if the thermostat can run on batteries or does it require hard wiring?


The Hive thermostat is battery operated.
#14
brilliant system. I have one in our home. Worth the money.
1 Like #15
nhs007
Nest learns, Hive has different integration. Hive has plugs, bulbs and sensors. Nest has camera, smoke alarm etc. Nest may come into its own with Google Home. I've just had my Hive installed and love it. No point having a Nest as my wife works random shifts.

I'd argue the nest is more useful, as the home / away assist will kick in to make sure that the heating is off if noone is at home and it's scheduled to come on.
1 Like #16
NPower customers can get the nest for £129, even old customer who have left, check if you can still log into your account, you can then place an order.

Just an FYI for those who wanted a Nest :p
1 Like #17
deepu25
can someone please let me know if the thermostat can run on batteries or does it require hard wiring?


It's operated by aa batteries with a quick release bracket to put it on the wall if you wish to do this.
#18
Hive is great. I have 3 zones including ufh and it's a really stable system.

nest thermostats are nicer looking though. would have probably gone with nest originally by they didn't do separate hit water at the time.
1 Like #19
neicam
deepu25
can someone please let me know if the thermostat can run on batteries or does it require hard wiring?


It's operated by aa batteries with a quick release bracket to put it on the wall if you wish to do this.


batteries last ages as well
3 Likes #20
tystion
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.

Or Netatmo.
Or Tado.
Or EvoHome.

Doubtless there are others as well.

I've got Netatmo myself. Along with the weather station. And Echo. Can't really get much more accurate for heating control once you integrate it with a local weather station. It learns how you house heats and cools and then uses the weather conditions in your garden to determine your heating needs. With IFTTT, stuff like geofencing can easily be added.

But if you need more granular zonal control, something like EvoHome may be a better option. (I looked at it, but decided it was overkill in a small flat like mine.)

A lot more out there than just Nest and Hive. Depends what you want and how much you want to spend.

*EDIT*

I got the Netatmo for well less than £100 on a deal. And installed it myself. It wasn't hard. But that depends on your boiler. Had it almost 2 years now and I don't think I've changed the batteries in the thermostat once yet. (e-ink screen so very efficient)

Edited By: sancheez on Dec 19, 2016 12:14
#21
InkZ
nhs007
Nest learns, Hive has different integration. Hive has plugs, bulbs and sensors. Nest has camera, smoke alarm etc. Nest may come into its own with Google Home. I've just had my Hive installed and love it. No point having a Nest as my wife works random shifts.
I'd argue the nest is more useful, as the home / away assist will kick in to make sure that the heating is off if noone is at home and it's scheduled to come on.
I would have agreed before but now Hive has Ittt integration its possible to set up with more control via that.
#22
Just to note, the Alexa integration isn't perfect yet, it works depending on what you want to achieve but I still find myself just going in to the app - first world problem.
#23
InkZ
nhs007
Nest learns, Hive has different integration. Hive has plugs, bulbs and sensors. Nest has camera, smoke alarm etc. Nest may come into its own with Google Home. I've just had my Hive installed and love it. No point having a Nest as my wife works random shifts.
I'd argue the nest is more useful, as the home / away assist will kick in to make sure that the heating is off if noone is at home and it's scheduled to come on.

As per callum84, you can achieve all of this with greater accuracy and options using Life360 hooked in to it.
#24
sancheez
tystion
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.

Or Netatmo.
Or Tado.
Or EvoHome.

Doubtless there are others as well.

I've got Netatmo myself. Along with the weather station. And Echo. Can't really get much more accurate for heating control once you integrate it with a local weather station. It learns how you house heats and cools and then uses the weather conditions in your garden to determine your heating needs. With IFTTT, stuff like geofencing can easily be added.

But if you need more granular zonal control, something like EvoHome may be a better option. (I looked at it, but decided it was overkill in a small flat like mine.)

A lot more out there than just Nest and Hive. Depends what you want and how much you want to spend.

*EDIT*

I got the Netatmo for well less than £100 on a deal. And installed it myself. It wasn't hard. But that depends on your boiler. Had it almost 2 years now and I don't think I've changed the batteries in the thermostat once yet. (e-ink screen so very efficient)


Great info. Will look into them. Thanks.
#25
pjazzy
NPower customers can get the nest for £129, even old customer who have left, check if you can still log into your account, you can then place an order.
Just an FYI for those who wanted a Nest :p
I'm an ex-customer (left in Feb 2015) and it looks like you do have to have an active account for it to work. I logged into my account which all works fine but when I clicked the link on the banner to the offer, on the order page it says:
"Only existing npower energy customers are eligible for this Nest offer.

If you'd like to take advantage of the offer too, why not get a quote and sign up to one of our energy tariffs now?"
1 Like #26
curr
Bought from Amazon for £179 black Friday, not installed yet. Hope I can claim difference?
Only option would probably be to return it
1 Like #27
Tempted but I think Ill just resort to manually turning the heating dial and put my £135.99 towards my heating bill for this year!
1 Like #28
Just when I thought the world couldn't get any loopier, I find this thread. Is everyone becoming so reliant on technology that they've forgotten how to think for themselves? It's a good job breathing is an autonomic function otherwise people would have to buy themselves artificial lungs.
#29
onion86
pjazzy
NPower customers can get the nest for £129, even old customer who have left, check if you can still log into your account, you can then place an order.
Just an FYI for those who wanted a Nest :p
I'm an ex-customer (left in Feb 2015) and it looks like you do have to have an active account for it to work. I logged into my account which all works fine but when I clicked the link on the banner to the offer, on the order page it says:
"Only existing npower energy customers are eligible for this Nest offer.
If you'd like to take advantage of the offer too, why not get a quote and sign up to one of our energy tariffs now?"

Ah, that must have been a recent change then. I haven't been their customer for a couple of years now and I was able to buy one a few months ago.

Edit - I just checked their site and it does say new and existing customers: https://www.npower.com/home/home-and-heating/accessories/nest-learning-thermostat/nest-offer/

Edited By: pjazzy on Dec 19, 2016 12:40
1 Like #30
Had Hive for just over a year. Very happy with it. You can set a reminder to prompt you when you pass a certain distance away from your home to remind you to turn it off or on. Really handy being able to turn my heating on when i'm on my way home so the house is warm when I arrive.
#31
pjazzy
onion86
pjazzy
NPower customers can get the nest for £129, even old customer who have left, check if you can still log into your account, you can then place an order.
Just an FYI for those who wanted a Nest :p
I'm an ex-customer (left in Feb 2015) and it looks like you do have to have an active account for it to work. I logged into my account which all works fine but when I clicked the link on the banner to the offer, on the order page it says:
"Only existing npower energy customers are eligible for this Nest offer.
If you'd like to take advantage of the offer too, why not get a quote and sign up to one of our energy tariffs now?"
Ah, that must have been a recent change then. I haven't been their customer for a couple of years now and I was able to buy one a few months ago.
Edit - I just checked their site and it does say new and existing customers: https://www.npower.com/home/home-and-heating/accessories/nest-learning-thermostat/nest-offer/

Ah well, worth a try :)

Nest products are only available to existing npower customers.

"Sorry, this is an old account number. Please log in with a current account number or contact us on 0800 048 0575 ."
2 Likes #32
Magister
Just when I thought the world couldn't get any loopier, I find this thread. Is everyone becoming so reliant on technology that they've forgotten how to think for themselves? It's a good job breathing is an autonomic function otherwise people would have to buy themselves artificial lungs.

I don't know, but I'm glad you asked using the most significant technological advance of the past few decades at least.
#33
anthony69
Tempted but I think Ill just resort to manually turning the heating dial and put my £135.99 towards my heating bill for this year!

I've paid the same monthly amount for my gas and electric for the last 5 years. It has NEVER changed.

Up until I installed Netatmo, I tended to end the year about balanced. Since I put Netatmo in, and my heating got a lot smarter, it's saved me money. At the last balance check I was over £300 in credit. The vast majority of that credit being gas. Speaks for itself. And has paid for itself 3x over already I reckon. And my heating is far more even and efficient now.

They are more than just a dumb remote on/off switch .....

(Well, mine is. Dunno about the others ....)

Mind you, even the dumb remote switch has it's merits. If go away on hols for two weeks and forget to put the heating off/down ..... no problem. If you do the same? Two weeks of wasted heating ....
#34
tystion
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.


Nest.
#35
tystion
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.


The actual answer is Evohome :)
#36
I got this for £119 last year and fitted it myself and am very pleased with it. I got to work this am and remembered that the house would be cooling down but the kids are off school, so I just changed the schedule for today and the rest of the week from my phone. (Yes, they are old enough to be home alone).
It takes 2 AA batteries. I put a couple of Eneloop rechargeable batteries in it a year ago, and they are still going strong. I can check the battery level in the app, and the icon is showing over 50% left. I don't know whether it uses very little power, or if the Eneloop is being charged up! (Which of course makes no sense).
3 Likes #37
juniper
I got this for £119 last year and fitted it myself and am very pleased with it. I got to work this am and remembered that the house would be cooling down but the kids are off school, so I just changed the schedule for today and the rest of the week from my phone. (Yes, they are old enough to be home alone).
It takes 2 AA batteries. I put a couple of Eneloop rechargeable batteries in it a year ago, and they are still going strong. I can check the battery level in the app, and the icon is showing over 50% left. I don't know whether it uses very little power, or if the Eneloop is being charged up! (Which of course makes no sense).

As above, I have the Evohome but the basic remote access is the same (Evohome just takes it way further with zoning) and I sometimes have a bit of fun when I work evenings by turning the heating in the lounge right down on the app whilst at work and seeing how long it is before I get an irate phone call from the wife. Pathetic, I know <3



Edited By: bellboys on Dec 19, 2016 13:41
#38
tystion
Hmmmmmm. Hive Or Nest? That's the question.

In addition to the other replies: Google has generally been pretty good about opening up their technology (Nest now supports OpenTherm, allowing a bit of freedom from manufacturer-proprietary specifications) whereas I would barely trust British Gas to be helpful to the general public even if legally required to.

The biggest risk you're taking is not the specifics, but being an early adopter of relatively new technology and systems. If it'll pay for itself before you want/need to upgrade/change, no big deal.
#39
bellboys
I have the Evohome but the basic remote access is the same (Evohome just takes it way further with zoning)

I liked the look of EvoHome. But it is an expensive option.

I just re-ran the planner on their site to check. For a single thermostat option - installed myself - which would basically be the same as my Netatmo (without the weather station - that's separate), it would still cost £250. More than double what the Netatmo cost me.

Granted, the ability to extend to independent zones is what makes it. But it also pushes the price even higher. To fully zone (aka - a controller on every radiator) in my 2 bedroom flat, would have cost (from memory) well over £600.

It does look like a really good system. And for larger homes where more granular controls definitely make more sense, I can totally see the benefits. But in a smaller, single zone, place .... I'd argue you don't really get much extra benefit for the extra spend ....
#40
A mate showed me his Heat Genius system - each room is a zone, each rad has a wireless controller, each room has a little wireless thermostat with a motion sensor, so if a room is unoccupied the rad gets turned off or if someone is in the room for more than 5 minutes the rad get turned on. And it's all schedule programmable too. My house was going to cost over £1000 after discount (he does a bit of installation for the firm)...

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