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Hive Active Heating + Hot Water £143.00 ARGOS (20% off all Hive Products)

£143.00 @ Argos
was watching this and then got a price notification this morning reduced from £180 to £143 Also noticed all other hive products are 20% off including Hive without hot water and hive with installa… Read More
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was watching this and then got a price notification this morning
reduced from £180 to £143

Also noticed all other hive products are 20% off including Hive without hot water and hive with installation
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#1
Are these worth having? And which is better, hive or nest?
#2
Amazon have price matched, but only the heating+water. Can you buy the heating+water kit but not bother with water? Ours is a combi boiler so wouldn't need the hit water part, but the kit is actually cheaper on Amazon.
#3
Kallb123
Amazon have price matched, but only the heating+water. Can you buy the heating+water kit but not bother with water? Ours is a combi boiler so wouldn't need the hit water part, but the kit is actually cheaper on Amazon.

Yep. Just don't connect the wires for hot water.

Know it works as we swapped to a combination boiler after installing hive :P
1 Like #4
Had this since February, couldn't praise it enough until 15/03/17 when hive changed the online dashboard and ruined the experience overnight.

If something ain't broke..............
1 Like #6


Personally, after having Nest, i would go for Hive. had allsorts of issues with Nest thermostat disconnecting and other random issues. Even if you don't have these issues it ain't worth more money than HIVE unless you have a complicated multizone setup

Also, NEST owned by tax dodging Google, and Hive owned by Uk company. (Centrica)



Edited By: jayjayuk1234 on Apr 07, 2017 20:50
#7
We use a Netatmo Thermostat, which also works with Alexa
1 Like #8
simon-c
We use a Netatmo Thermostat, which also works with Alexa
And IFTTT, plus it looks great compared to this.

It doesn't do Hot Water though.
#9
canaryfanic
Are these worth having? And which is better, hive or nest?
I've been looking at a few and went with best due to better software. Best knows when you are not in Hive works on geo fencing
#10
Op, How do you watch and get price notification for an item on argos?
1 Like #11
spruceyb
simon-c
We use a Netatmo Thermostat, which also works with Alexa
And IFTTT, plus it looks great compared to this.
It doesn't do Hot Water though.

Hive also works with IFTTT and Amazon Echo. Hive also accepts commands by text, so I've used Macrodroid app to create some widgets on my phone screen so I can send any heating or water command with a single button press.
#12
terriclarkfan
spruceyb
simon-c
We use a Netatmo Thermostat, which also works with Alexa
And IFTTT, plus it looks great compared to this.
It doesn't do Hot Water though.
Hive also works with IFTTT and Amazon Echo. Hive also accepts commands by text, so I've used Macrodroid app to create some widgets on my phone screen so I can send any heating or water command with a single button press.

Have you actually used IFTTT? I see lots of praise for it, but once I actually tried to use it, I found it totally unreliable. Not sure if its just me.
2 Likes #13
AzeemB
terriclarkfan
spruceyb
simon-c
We use a Netatmo Thermostat, which also works with Alexa
And IFTTT, plus it looks great compared to this.
It doesn't do Hot Water though.
Hive also works with IFTTT and Amazon Echo. Hive also accepts commands by text, so I've used Macrodroid app to create some widgets on my phone screen so I can send any heating or water command with a single button press.
Have you actually used IFTTT? I see lots of praise for it, but once I actually tried to use it, I found it totally unreliable. Not sure if its just me.
I literally just used it to dim the hue lights in my living room from my Android Wear.

With Netatmo I used it for a 2Hour heating boost on those extra cold days. And it turned the Thermostat off this week because I have it set to do that when outside temp reaches 16c

It can be unreliable if your phone tries to save energy by restricting background data because it needs internet to work.
1 Like #14
You won't need this in UK, barely enough snow to make a tiny snowball :D
#15
I have a boiler that has one of those mechanical dials on it where you slide in the pins in and out, and I think it's a combi because I don't have a reservoir of water in the attic etc.

Can I use a smart thermostat with that type of boiler? There is a thermostat on the wall in the house, but it's old and only has 2 wires behind it (I think I took it off once, but could never really get an answer as to wether I can use one of these), any help would be good!!
#16
Thanks for posting, ordered a few bits!
#17
InTheKnow444
Had this since February, couldn't praise it enough until 15/03/17 when hive changed the online dashboard and ruined the experience overnight.
If something ain't broke..............

I also dislike the new online dashboard. It is too big meaning you cannot see it all on the screen at once - and amending the time slots is way more finnicky, whereas before it was straightforward. Why did they do this!!?

Having said that... I still think Hive is pretty good, and really I just like having control about when to turn it off and on when I am away from home. And this price is very good - I paid £180 and thought that was a steal.
#18
canaryfanic
Are these worth having? And which is better, hive or nest?

The actual answer is Evohome but, of course, the cost is much greater.
1 Like #19
If you use any British Gas service you can get it supplied and installed for £149.99 inclusive. Just ask any of their engineers when they are in your home to give you a quote. I get my gas and electricity from Eon and my service agreement with BG and I got HIVE fitted for £149.99.
#20
I got hive when I bought my boiler over 2 years ago. It doesnt work now. Im no longer a British gas customer. Do you have to pay a monthly subscription for it to still be active?
#21
chomba
If you use any British Gas service you can get it supplied and installed for £149.99 inclusive. Just ask any of their engineers when they are in your home to give you a quote. I get my gas and electricity from Eon and my service agreement with BG and I got HIVE fitted for £149.99.

How did u get that price ?

only price is see is £249
2 Likes #22
Has society made us that lazy that you cant simply use the timer on your thermostat and the thermostatic valves on individual radiators throughout your house to control your heating as and when you desire?
#23
Love the hive, in particular being able to turn off heating & hot water when you go on holiday. It has built in frost protection mode which kicks in if needed, and th n day before you cone home switch it all back on. App for your phone & tablets etc, so you can check temp while out & turn up if needed etc. Hot water also good. We now have a hive lightbulb which is great in darker months. Will be investing in couple more of those too.
#24
What's the difference between the heating & hot water kit and then the other one,both are priced the same
#25
buckfast67uk
Has society made us that lazy that you cant simply use the timer on your thermostat and the thermostatic valves on individual radiators throughout your house to control your heating as and when you desire?

Or using a remote control to change the channel on a TV because you can't be bothered to press the button on the set
#26
opaninkofi
Op, How do you watch and get price notification for an item on argos?


on the argos app add an item to your wishlist and click notify on price drop
#27
chomba
If you use any British Gas service you can get it supplied and installed for £149.99 inclusive. Just ask any of their engineers when they are in your home to give you a quote. I get my gas and electricity from Eon and my service agreement with BG and I got HIVE fitted for £149.99.


I have dual fuel and home cover. It's £199 supplied and fitted had an engineer round last week and he tried talking me into it. hence why I have been watching the price on argos
#28
ozstriker3
What's the difference between the heating & hot water kit and then the other one,both are priced the same

nothing if you compare the component list for each of them....

Components include hive thermostat, receiver, hub, 4 x batteries aa, 1 x ethernet cable, 1 x power supply, 1 x USB power lead, 1 x pack wall plugs.

got my hive v1 from screwfix for £50 last year. ok its the 1st Gen model but very happy with the functionality it gives me. also got the Hive motion sensor for £30 as well.
#29
daveelle4
I got hive when I bought my boiler over 2 years ago. It doesnt work now. Im no longer a British gas customer. Do you have to pay a monthly subscription for it to still be active?
You don't need a BG account for Hive to work. Call the Hive support helpline if yours is not working.
#30
cruisecars
chomba
If you use any British Gas service you can get it supplied and installed for £149.99 inclusive. Just ask any of their engineers when they are in your home to give you a quote. I get my gas and electricity from Eon and my service agreement with BG and I got HIVE fitted for £149.99.
How did u get that price ?

only price is see is £249
A BG gas engineer visited my house because I have a boiler maintenance agreement with them and whilst there he offered me Hive supplied and fitted for £149. They can offer you Hive at the discounted price only whilst in your house. They'll either leave you a written quote for you to call BG later and get it at the reduced price or they can install it there and then with payment made over the phone directly to BG. I've got a system boiler so mine also controls my hot water.
#31
chomba
cruisecars
chomba
If you use any British Gas service you can get it supplied and installed for £149.99 inclusive. Just ask any of their engineers when they are in your home to give you a quote. I get my gas and electricity from Eon and my service agreement with BG and I got HIVE fitted for £149.99.
How did u get that price ?

only price is see is £249
A BG gas engineer visited my house because I have a boiler maintenance agreement with them and whilst there he offered me Hive supplied and fitted for £149. They can offer you Hive at the discounted price only whilst in your house. They'll either leave you a written quote for you to call BG later and get it at the reduced price or they can install it there and then with payment made over the phone directly to BG. I've got a system boiler so mine also controls my hot water.


that's a good deal same thing happened to me last week same circumstances but he quoted me £199
#32
bellboys
canaryfanic
Are these worth having? And which is better, hive or nest?
The actual answer is Evohome but, of course, the cost is much greater.

Agree but the lack of Homekit integration bothers me. As above, workarounds with IFFTT are flaky at best. I'm moving and have decided to leave mine where it is (+12 TRV's). Netamo (supports Homekit) are releasing zoning TRV's soon and will likely go with that in the new house.
#33
meathane
I have a boiler that has one of those mechanical dials on it where you slide in the pins in and out, and I think it's a combi because I don't have a reservoir of water in the attic etc.
Can I use a smart thermostat with that type of boiler? There is a thermostat on the wall in the house, but it's old and only has 2 wires behind it (I think I took it off once, but could never really get an answer as to wether I can use one of these), any help would be good!!

Yes you can. I had the same type of boiler. The mechanical clock is disconnected but you will need a competent engineer to do that.
#34
don't need to disconnect clock.. just set it to on.
wire the rf receiver into boiler, using current live and Neutral, then another cable between stat terminals.
#35
Ok cool, thanks for the tips, I was thinking I needed to spend a grand on a new boiler to get any benefits like nest/hive.

The nest thermostat gets wired in to the wall, where your old thermostat is, and then again at the boiler, but the hive comes with 3 things- the bit you plug into the router, the battery powered remote/thermostat (that I guess most people wall mount), and a third bit that wires into the boiler to perform the actions you set. So why does Hive have 3 bits and Nest only 2? Does the Nest thermostat just use wifi and therefore doesn't need the first device I mentioned?

Edited By: meathane on Apr 08, 2017 15:59: Spelling
#36
meathane
Ok cool, thanks for the tips, I was thinking I needed to spend a grand on a new boiler to get any benefits like nest/hive.
The nest thermostat gets wired in to the wall, where your old thermostat is, and then again at the boiler, but the hive comes with 3 things- the bit you plug into the router, the battery powered remote/thermostat (that I guess most people wall mount), and a third bit that wires into the boiler to perform the actions you set. So why does Hive have 3 bits and Nest only 2? Does the Nest thermostat just use wifi and therefore doesn't need the first device I mentioned?

Because the Hive system has other products such as lights and sensors that need the hub.
#37
Just fitted mine today. Looks good and works fine
#38
The only thermostats worth having are Nest 3rd gen and Tado because they use something called opentherm that allows them to change your heating temp and not just turn your boiler on and off, saving more money. So they work like weather compensating thermostats but with online control.
#39
anouj
The only thermostats worth having are Nest 3rd gen and Tado because they use something called opentherm that allows them to change your heating temp and not just turn your boiler on and off, saving more money. So they work like weather compensating thermostats but with online control.

What are you talking about? :D

Opentherm was developed in 1996, it's not some amazing new technology, simple fact is that it's hardly used and provides no real benefit
#40
bma1445
Kallb123
Amazon have price matched, but only the heating+water. Can you buy the heating+water kit but not bother with water? Ours is a combi boiler so wouldn't need the hit water part, but the kit is actually cheaper on Amazon.
Yep. Just don't connect the wires for hot water.
Know it works as we swapped to a combination boiler after installing hive :P

Just reading through the instructions for fitting to the boiler. The pins seem different in the hot water kit. Do I just forget about the hot water pins? There's a pin labelled "common" on the non-water kit that isn't there in the hot water kit, does that matter?

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