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Holland & Barrett - Acai Berry Capsules (500mg) - Half Price - £7.49 @ Holland and Barrett

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When i first tried Acai berry's i tried these, and spent over £15 on them from the GNC website. Im not going to preach that they made me lose any weight or anything but they definitely do make a diffe… Read More
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When i first tried Acai berry's i tried these, and spent over £15 on them from the GNC website. Im not going to preach that they made me lose any weight or anything but they definitely do make a difference on the way i feel on a day to day basis, and i managed to lose around 1stone in a few weeks by just normal gym-going, acai berries, and days of manual labouring in the sun...

If you plan on buying any, you will already know they are good....if you're unsure, heres a good test buy :)

Instore aswell (Noticed in manchester market street branch today)

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#1
Av been using these for three weeks now - do u know that you should also take one of their colon cleanse tablets at night too! Apparently the two together produce much better results!

I bought 4 bottles of these and yes do feel better generally
banned#2
bossyboots
Av been using these for three weeks now - do u know that you should also take one of their colon cleanse tablets at night too! Apparently the two together produce much better results!

I bought 4 bottles of these and yes do feel better generally


These are one of the most notorious products of the quack 'superfood' debacle.
If you think scientists are stupid people who know nothing about anything then buy these expensive placebos.
This is pure undiluted nonsense, cynically designed to cash in on people's fears and insecurities.
lol@'you should also take a colon cleanse tablet'.
I asuume they give you those free? Thought not.
Some light reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology
If you learn 'biology' for a couple of minutes you will realise that a tablet cant cleanse your colon (wtf does cleanse mean in that context anyway?)
#3
Mascherano
These are one of the most notorious products of the quack 'superfood' debacle.
If you think scientists are stupid people who know nothing about anything then buy these expensive placebos.
This is pure undiluted nonsense, cynically designed to cash in on people's fears and insecurities.
lol@'you should also take a colon cleanse tablet'.
I asuume they give you those free? Thought not.
Some light reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology
If you learn 'biology' for a couple of minutes you will realise that a tablet cant cleanse your colon (wtf does cleanse mean in that context anyway?)


This site is for posting good deals - not for pontificating on whether you think what people are buying is worthwhile. If you want to try and 'educate' people to your point of view then being scathing and sarcastic isn't a very good policy. Seriously, good manners cost nothing.
#4
CelticStar
This site is for posting good deals - not for pontificating on whether you think what people are buying is worthwhile. If you want to try and 'educate' people to your point of view then being scathing and sarcastic isn't a very good policy. Seriously, good manners cost nothing.

But it's an even better deal NOT to buy rubbish only to flush it down the loo via your digestive system.

Yes, they do make you feel different - £15 poorer!
#5
bossyboots
Av been using these for three weeks now - do u know that you should also take one of their colon cleanse tablets at night too! Apparently the two together produce much better results!

I bought 4 bottles of these and yes do feel better generally

I find 4 pints of decent real ale cleanses my colon just fine thanks - and I feel much better (for a while).

Seriously, don't waste your money on quack remedies, just eat a decent balance diet.
#6
CelticStar
This site is for posting good deals - not for pontificating on whether you think what people are buying is worthwhile. If you want to try and 'educate' people to your point of view then being scathing and sarcastic isn't a very good policy. Seriously, good manners cost nothing.


thank you for posting that in such a good way as I would have got an infraction if I put the words I wanted to. what a rude way to post
#7
Mascherano
These are one of the most notorious products of the quack 'superfood' debacle.
If you think scientists are stupid people who know nothing about anything then buy these expensive placebos.
This is pure undiluted nonsense, cynically designed to cash in on people's fears and insecurities.
lol@'you should also take a colon cleanse tablet'.
I asuume they give you those free? Thought not.
Some light reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology
If you learn 'biology' for a couple of minutes you will realise that a tablet cant cleanse your colon (wtf does cleanse mean in that context anyway?)


I agree some claims are vastly overstated, but the reason they can be said (legally) is that they cant be disproved as our understanding of how substances affects the body is very small, and constantly changing. At the very least, your getting some good antioxidants, thats safe to say, but whether it makes you lose alot of weight, that's debatable. Alot of these kind of supplements are supported by scientific studies, problem is, over time many studies contradict each other. My philosophy is if theres an appreciable possibility it benefits your health, then £7.5 is a small price to pay to help, what should be, the most important thing you have.

My tip: Google/Wiki the product! and make your own judgement based on the information available, on an individual basis. Don't adhere to broad generalisations like "supplements are all rubbish" or "these will clear your toxins!".
#8
NitrousUK
I agree some claims are vastly overstated, but the reason they can be said (legally) is that they cant be disproved as our understanding of how substances affects the body is very small, and constantly changing. At the very least, your getting some good antioxidants, thats safe to say, but whether it makes you lose alot of weight, that's debatable. Alot of these kind of supplements are supported by scientific studies, problem is, over time many studies contradict each other. My philosophy is if theres an appreciable possibility it benefits your health, then £7.5 is a small price to pay to help, what should be, the most important thing you have.

My tip: Google/Wiki the product! and make your own judgement based on the information available, on an individual basis. Don't adhere to broad generalisations like "supplements are all rubbish" or "these will clear your toxins!".

Sad, very sad.

They don't do much for your written english either it seems.
#9
Besford
Sad, very sad.

They don't do much for your written english either it seems.


What conceivable way was that comment of any benefit to anyone? (I'm pretty sure my english made perfect sense and got the message across just fine, perhaps you have a degree of grammatical perfection we mere mortals have yet to attain or comprehend). Flaming someones english is always a desperate last resort...
#10
NitrousUK
What conceivable way was that comment of any benefit to anyone? (I'm pretty sure my english made perfect sense and got the message across just fine, perhaps you have a degree of grammatical perfection we mere mortals have yet to attain or comprehend). Flaming someones english is always a desperate last resort...

You're quite correct, sorry. But save your money!
banned#11
NitrousUK
I agree some claims are vastly overstated, but the reason they can be said (legally) is that they cant be disproved as our understanding of how substances affects the body is very small, and constantly changing. At the very least, your getting some good antioxidants, thats safe to say, but whether it makes you lose alot of weight, that's debatable. Alot of these kind of supplements are supported by scientific studies, problem is, over time many studies contradict each other. My philosophy is if theres an appreciable possibility it benefits your health, then £7.5 is a small price to pay to help, what should be, the most important thing you have.

My tip: Google/Wiki the product! and make your own judgement based on the information available, on an individual basis. Don't adhere to broad generalisations like "supplements are all rubbish" or "these will clear your toxins!".

1. The reason they make their claims is that these are in a grey area between food and medicicne- so you can say anything you like about them. You don't have to do any research at all.
2. If they make unproven claims of their advertising, then they can be held accountable by the ASA. In fact, I may just report this to the ASA (if someone hasnt already beat me to it)
3. Anti-oxidants are not health-promoting molecules. You need oxidants to live.
4. There is no convincing medical evidence that these berries are health-promoting or an aid to weight-loss. There is evidence that they do harm (again, not very convincing).
As for something not being disproved- since when is that an indication that it works? You can't disprove that I have fairies at the bottom of my garden- or a unicorn in my living room.
Thats not how science, logic or knowledge advances.
#12
Mascherano
1. The reason they make their claims is that these are in a grey area between food and medicicne- so you can say anything you like about them. You don't have to do any research at all.
2. If they make unproven claims of their advertising, then they can be held accountable by the ASA. In fact, I may just report this to the ASA (if someone hasnt already beat me to it)
3. Anti-oxidants are not health-promoting molecules. You need oxidants to live.
4. There is no convincing medical evidence that these berries are health-promoting or an aid to weight-loss. There is evidence that they do harm (again, not very convincing).
As for something not being disproved- since when is that an indication that it works? You can't disprove that I have fairies at the bottom of my garden- or a unicorn in my living room.
Thats not how science, logic or knowledge advances.



Do you know what - we all have our own views and opinions - our likes and dislikes - but it shouldnt be mocked in the way you did earlier.

I have read your PM and your apology is accepted
#13
Sorry people, only 14 posts on this one - the cheap chicken deal is running away with it! better get over there quick.

Now, if we fed the chickens on these magic berries..............................................
#14
Besford
Sorry people, only 14 posts on this one - the cheap chicken deal is running away with it! better get over there quick.

Now, if we fed the chickens on these magic berries..............................................


sounds like ur the one on the magic berries
#15
Mascherano
1. The reason they make their claims is that these are in a grey area between food and medicicne- so you can say anything you like about them. You don't have to do any research at all.
2. If they make unproven claims of their advertising, then they can be held accountable by the ASA. In fact, I may just report this to the ASA (if someone hasnt already beat me to it)
3. Anti-oxidants are not health-promoting molecules. You need oxidants to live.
4. There is no convincing medical evidence that these berries are health-promoting or an aid to weight-loss. There is evidence that they do harm (again, not very convincing).
As for something not being disproved- since when is that an indication that it works? You can't disprove that I have fairies at the bottom of my garden- or a unicorn in my living room.
Thats not how science, logic or knowledge advances.


Problem is most areas are grey, the latest research I saw the other day, was that coffee was healthy! And your right, advertising claims with no evidence usually gets reported and pulled. Anti-oxidants are healthy, afaik, provided you dont totally saturate your body with them to a ridiculous, probably unattainable, level. Personally, I'm not convinced by these berries, and wouldnt buy them, but theres plenty of good supplements of this type which does have sound science behind it. I'm not quite sure why you got the impression that lack of evidence is evidence enough to be convinced, i said its best to find out yourself and find the scientific evidence and judge it by merit.
banned#16
NitrousUK
Problem is most areas are grey, the latest research I saw the other day, was that coffee was healthy! And your right, advertising claims with no evidence usually gets reported and pulled. Anti-oxidants are healthy, afaik, provided you dont totally saturate your body with them to a ridiculous, probably unattainable, level. Personally, I'm not convinced by these berries, and wouldnt buy them, but theres plenty of good supplements of this type which does have sound science behind it. I'm not quite sure why you got the impression that lack of evidence is evidence enough to be convinced, i said its best to find out yourself and find the scientific evidence and judge it by merit.


Well you probably didnt see research the other day; you read it in a newspaper.
Journalists are useless at science, they cant tell good from bad and they simply re-write press releases verbatim.
This can give the impression that scientists are always changing their minds about everything. Thats not the case.
There is no good medical evidence behind any supplements I've come accross in recent years- this isnt surprising as the supplement companies dont care about evidence they just care about fleecing gullible people.
If you want anti-oxidants eat fruit n veg. If you want to lose weight diet exercise more.
Magic pills and potions are so unnecessary
banned#17
Mascherano

2. If they make unproven claims of their advertising, then they can be held accountable by the ASA. In fact, I may just report this to the ASA (if someone hasnt already beat me to it)

http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43263.htm
someone beat me to it!
Innocent were hauled over the coals for the usual anti-oxidant detox nonsense.
(how vain am I quoting myself :oops:)
#18
Mascherano
Well you probably didnt see research the other day; you read it in a newspaper.
Journalists are useless at science, they cant tell good from bad and they simply re-write press releases verbatim.
This can give the impression that scientists are always changing their minds about everything. Thats not the case.
There is no good medical evidence behind any supplements I've come accross in recent years- this isnt surprising as the supplement companies dont care about evidence they just care about fleecing gullible people.
If you want anti-oxidants eat fruit n veg. If you want to lose weight diet exercise more.
Magic pills and potions are so unnecessary


I read an article with quotes from a doctor who conducted the study, clearly stating it was their opinion that less than 3-4 cups a day was overall good for you. I can see the difference between journalistic science (like that in New Scientist/Mens Health), and real, substantial science.

I'm afraid I have to completely disagree that medical science is static, and set in stone. I read changes in opinions on a weekly basis, I subscribe to a newsletter on medical science advances. Regarding "no good medical evidence", i've seen countless scientific studies on supplements, proving effectiveness, literally hundreds. Sorry to drag this out but I couldnt disagree more that all supplements are useless. My advice to anyone would be to read the book Live Long Enough To Live Forever (silly hook i know, but jus skip those chapters), by Ray Kurzweil. Its the most up-to-date, and factual, book on the state of medical science, along with many pages on supplements, the effects and studies to support them. Ray Kurzweil co-wrote it with a doctor, Terry Grossman. I agree diet and exercise is by far the best method to health, but why not supplement that and get a little bit extra.
#19
Mascherano
http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/adjudications/Public/TF_ADJ_43263.htm
someone beat me to it!
Innocent were hauled over the coals for the usual anti-oxidant detox nonsense.
(how vain am I quoting myself :oops:)


I agree, anything with the word "toxin" or "cleanse" in is bs. Still had strong anti-oxidants, just didnt have a "detoxifying effect".
#20
Here's the best health advice and it'll cost you nothing (probably save a little):

Throw out the snake oil.
Stop smoking - it really is a killer!
Moderate your alcohol intake.
Eat a healthy, balanced diet. Probably more fruit/veg/fish, less meat/dairy/fats (but we need some of that too).
Take a bit of regular exercise (eg cycle to work if you can. No need to pay for a gym).
Then stop worrying about it!
#21
"My advice to anyone would be to read the book Live Long Enough To Live Forever (silly hook i know, but jus skip those chapters), by Ray Kurzweil. Its the most up-to-date, and factual, book on the state of medical science, along with many pages on supplements, the effects and studies to support them. Ray Kurzweil co-wrote it with a doctor, Terry Grossman. I agree diet and exercise is by far the best method to health, but why not supplement that and get a little bit extra.[" NitrousUK


Americans by any chance? Just a guess!
banned#22
NitrousUK
Regarding "no good medical evidence", i've seen countless scientific studies on supplements, proving effectiveness, literally hundreds. Sorry to drag this out but I couldnt disagree more that all supplements are useless. My advice to anyone would be to read the book Live Long Enough To Live Forever

I get my advice from meta-analyses of studies such as those performed by the Cochrane collaboration. I can find mo evidence for significant health-promoting effects of all of the supplements I searched for- I found (limited) evidence that some are actively harmful (e.g. vitamin B)
Ray Kurzweil is regarded as an extremist in the medical profession. Terry Grossman is an 'alternative medicine specialist' and a medical doctor.
Both sell pills and lifestly advice.
My jaw dropped when I read the wikipedia entry on Kurzweil, some highlights:
Kurzweil ingests "250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea" every day
On weekends, Kurzweil also undergoes intravenous transfusions of chemical cocktails at a clinic which he believes will reprogram his biochemistry
Kurzweil and his current "anti-aging" doctor, Terry Grossman, MD., now have two websites. One[51] promotes their first book. One[52] promotes their second book, and promotes and sells their many "longevity products", many of which can be found on medical scam warning sites[53]
#23
Mascherano
I get my advice from meta-analyses of studies such as those performed by the Cochrane collaboration. I can find mo evidence for significant health-promoting effects of all of the supplements I searched for- I found (limited) evidence that some are actively harmful (e.g. vitamin B)
Ray Kurzweil is regarded as an extremist in the medical profession. Terry Grossman is an 'alternative medicine specialist' and a medical doctor.
Both sell pills and lifestly advice.
My jaw dropped when I read the wikipedia entry on Kurzweil, some highlights:
Kurzweil ingests "250 supplements, eight to 10 glasses of alkaline water and 10 cups of green tea" every day
On weekends, Kurzweil also undergoes intravenous transfusions of chemical cocktails at a clinic which he believes will reprogram his biochemistry
Kurzweil and his current "anti-aging" doctor, Terry Grossman, MD., now have two websites. One[51] promotes their first book. One[52] promotes their second book, and promotes and sells their many "longevity products", many of which can be found on medical scam warning sites[53]


They sell only a fraction of the supplements they cover and recommended, and the ones they do sell are good and combine many into one for convenience. Kurzweil has taken it to the extreme, because he has diabetes and his father died at around the age he's at now, so he's very motivated to get the best that medical science has to offer. He's a genius, who invented things such as the first OCR, and uses very methodical and scientific methods of evaluating aspects of health. He goes into extreme detail, explaining the exact chemical processes that go on. He backs everything he says up with sound scientific studies. He has critics because he goes far beyond conventional thinking.

Btw, I had a quick look at the Cochrane website, and it seems they deal with treatment for existing conditions, like heart disease, etc, rather than on improving already healthy individuals.
banned#24
I think this is where we agree to disagree- I've enjoyed reading your posts and you are clearly better informed than most.
Kurzweil is absolutely fascinating, that wiki article I read was way too negative- he is a brilliant mind judging by his achievements.
While I suspect I wont agree with his take on molecular biology (although I cant evaluate his arguments as you have to pay money to look at them) I think the world is a better place for maverick thinkers like him.
Its been a pleasure, NitrousUK!
#25
Mascherano
I think this is where we agree to disagree- I've enjoyed reading your posts and you are clearly better informed than most.
Kurzweil is absolutely fascinating, that wiki article I read was way too negative- he is a brilliant mind judging by his achievements.
While I suspect I wont agree with his take on molecular biology (although I cant evaluate his arguments as you have to pay money to look at them) I think the world is a better place for maverick thinkers like him.
Its been a pleasure, NitrousUK!


Agreed :thumbsup:. I do like a good debate, and your point of view has been intriguing. I hope readers have learnt something from this.
#26
Still a good deal though...unless your little bicker IS in fact over...take it elsewhere please.

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