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HP Compaq NC2400 Core 2 Duo 1.2Ghz (2.4Ghz) 1Gb Ram 60Gb Refurb Laptop £214.99 @ Big Pockets

£214.99 @ Big pockets
Product Description - Compaq Core 2 Duo 1.2Ghz Laptop CPU / Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo 1.2Ghz (2.4Ghz) Hard Drive Size - 60 Gb RAM / Memory Size - 1Gb DDR2 533 Optical Drive…
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Product Description - Compaq Core 2 Duo 1.2Ghz Laptop

CPU / Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo 1.2Ghz (2.4Ghz)

Hard Drive Size - 60 Gb

RAM / Memory Size - 1Gb DDR2 533

Optical Drive(s) - Combo (DVD-ROM / CDRW)

Network / Connectivity - b/g Wi-Fi, 10/100/1000 NIC, 56K Modem

Audio / Sound - Integrated 16-bit Sound Blaster Pro compatible audio; Integrated speaker; External volume up/down scroll, and mute button; Stereo headphone/line out; Stereo microphone in; ADI High Definition CODEC

Screen / Resolution - 12 Inch widescreen TFT Screen / 1280 x 800

Additional - AC Adaptor / UK Keyboard (The 101/102-key compatible keyboard features an industry standard, full-pitch key layout with desktop keyboard features, such as the isolated inverted-T cursor control keys, editing keys, both left and right control and alt keys, and 12 function keys)
2 USB 2.0
1 IEEE 1394
1 RJ-11
1 headphone/line-out
1 microphone in
1 docking connector
1 battery connector
1 AC power
1 RJ-45

Weight / Size - 1.29Kgs / 11.1 x 8.38 x 0.976 in (282 x 213 x 25 mm)

Graphics - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 with up to 224 MB shared system memory - Microsoft DirectX 9 capable

Fingerprint scanner - Yes - Included

Condition - Used

Warranty - 3 Months Return to base. DOA Warranty on Battery

Operating System - Win XP Pro License, OS is pre-installed but no Restore Discs are supplied
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#1
Has anyone ever bought one of the bigpockets refurbished laptops ? Would be good to get some feedback on them, I'm sorely tempted to get one.
#2
For anyone who's not keen on them - this is a 'nipple' controlled laptop - no trackpad included... I like those myself but I know some people have an irrational liking for trackpads :)

Some info here - praised at £1000!! so...

http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2006/09/21/HP-Compaq-nc2400-Ultra-Portable-Notebook/p1

They note that with the standard 3cell battery it lasted over 3 hours - and over 2 hours playing a DVD which isn't bad - and you can get a 9 cell for this!! The official one is over £100 but there are clones starting at £40ish and that's upto 9 hours of average use (and a big lump sticking out of the back!!)

Note: Being a refurb the battery won't be great most likely so perhaps budgetting for a new 3cell (or better) may be wise...

Being an HP/Compaq business-focussed machine you can get docking stations for these too - which means you can have your monitor/external keyboard/mouse etc. all connected on the desktop and just grab the laptop when you need it - which is handy :)

It also has gigabit ethernet and wireless onboard - and firewire too!

Only 1 memory slot but a 2Gb SDRAM (it's max capacity) for it is <£20 so that's a cheap upgrade if you need it too perhaps...

I used this things bigger brother for a while some months ago and it was one of the best made laptops I've seen in a while - I suspect the ONLY snag here is that being refurbs it's all going to be about the sort of condition they're in.
#3
Mmm.. I was wondering if this looks like a reasonable alternative to a Netbook? Must be faster than an Atom powered wotsit?

But it is a fair bit bigger...
#4
it's an Ultraportable - bigger and a proper laptop in every respect in that it has all the ports, a built-in DVD/CD WRITER - even a Type 2 card slot (3G cards HO!)

This is better than any netbook in every possible way except size and weight - as I said it's just going to be a case of how 'refurbed' these really are...

Comments on the other laptops they've offered are generally quite positive - they're clearly corporate castoffs and the price is silly really - if you don't mind some scratches and knocks and a battery which is possibly nearer the end of it's life than the begining you have 3 months to test it out properly (and 7 days to return it if you don't like it ofc.!)

p.s. one of these with a 3cell battery weighs the same as an NC10 with it's 6cell so it's not exactly a fatty!
#5
I have 2 of these nc2400's and other than battery life for used batteries ( they don't hold up well - my 'slim' battery is so worn it only last 30 minutes) they are fantastic. No idea with regards to the ones bigpockets have, but the standard warranty on these is/was 3yrs 2 business day onsite - printed on the seriel sticker on the base of the laptop. It's why they were so expensive originally.

Fingerprint scanner too.

The replacment nc2510p model is pretty much identical cosmetically and still current - minor keyboard changes and a trackpad as well as nipple. That's just come down from 1200 inc to about 880. Dependant on warranty remaining with HP this could be very hot!

re the batteries - there are clones on fleabay but go genuine if you can. The 6 cell is not much bigger and the nine cell is a triangle format so still not as big as you'd think.
#6
therealjohnpeat;4254269
They note that with the standard 3cell battery it lasted over 3 hours - and over 2 hours playing a DVD which isn't bad - and you can get a 9 cell for this!!


It's not so much the amount of hours the battery will last, it is more a case of will it last to ever use it a second time!

"DOA "warranty
.... I wonder how much a battery for one of these costs?
So, all it has to be able to do is boot up once, and that's yer warranty on that done & dusted! :-(
After all, it's going to be no "spring chicken" at best, and you don't even get much leeway with a NEW battery let alone a well used one!
#7
nihcaj
I wonder how much a battery for one of these costs?


About £35 for a brand new 3 cell clone, £50 for a 6 cell or £75 for a 9 cell. Double those prices for new genuine HP batteries. The hp batteries are not covered by the 3yr hp warranty if the laptop has one.

Occasional bargains appear on ebay - I got a new sealed HP genuine 9 cell for £40 a year or so ago. The battery fits the nc2400 and nc2510.
#8
id personally go for it, upgrade the RAM for £20 and youve got a good specced laptop
#9
Just to point out it had a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo.
#10
GAVINLEWISHUKD
Just to point out it had a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo.


YES, It had Core 2 Duo 1.2 GHz, but it just had COMBO optical drive, ie cannot burn DVD.
#11
lamphan
YES, It had Core 2 Duo 1.2 GHz, but it just had COMBO optical drive, ie cannot burn DVD.


No I'm saying Big pockets have the wrong description it has a Intel U2500 processor which is a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo (which would be a U7600)
#12
Having a dual core 1.2Ghz CPU doesn't make it 2.4Ghz BTW. it's 2x 1.2Ghz...sounds similar but a world of difference ;-)
#13
Note: The Superbay in this can take a few items other than the stock DVD/CDRW - there's a DVD Writer option, 2nd HDD option and a few other things IIRC

HP prices are usually mad but eBay can often throw up some bargains (there are 9cell batteries on there now for £40-50 just bear in mind these are LARGE and 'jack up' the laptop at the back)
#14
Is this the 9 cell battery ebay item 190281644883. 6600mAh battery.
#15
GAVINLEWISHUKD
No I'm saying Big pockets have the wrong description it has a Intel U2500 processor which is a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo (which would be a U7600)


sorry my bad, just had a look at HP website, and this model is just available Chipset Mobile Intel® 945GM rather than 950 as BigPockets stupidly described

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-321838-306995-1847110.html
#16
lamphan
sorry my bad, just had a look at HP website, and this model is just available Chipset Mobile Intel® 945GM rather than 950 as BigPockets stupidly described

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06a/321957-321957-64295-321838-306995-1847110.html


Yes a little misleading but 950 is the series and the chip is 945GM. This is the last of the 950 series.
#17
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews81694.html

this is not a good merchant to buy a refurbish laptop.
#18
Cold and expired from me on the grounds that it's misleading deal. It's not a Core2Duo chip at all, and it doesn't run at 2.4GHz as the advert says. Wouldn't buy from a retailer that is so deceptive in its advertising. They been bought out by the DSGi group or someting?
#19
lamphan
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews81694.html

this is not a good merchant to buy a refurbish laptop.



The first review is quite funny. It has US keyboard set up but the woman seems to think it has the wrong keyboard.
#20
Bearing in mind that 90% of people who post to things like ReviewCentre are morons who have no idea what they're doing - that's actually not as bad as I expected.

You need to bear in mind that this isn't a 'refurb' like the Dell Outlet or Apple Store sell (which are, essentially, new machines) - it's been in use with some corporate type - probably for a year or 2 - it is 'pre owner' or 'second hand' in effect.

If they were careful/light users it will be near-as-new - if they led a harder life it may have more damage to show for it's life - you pays your money and...

If you're expecting 'brand new or near-as-dammit' you may be disappointed - but then this is an £1100 laptop for £220!!

p.s. on the comments of "Mr Zealous" dxx above me - it's almost unavoidable that people double Dual-Core processors Mhz in ads these days and I doubt if 1% of buyers give a **** if it's a Core2Duo or not.

What it IS - is 12" screen fully-specced laptop for <£220 and you're just splitting hairs and not helping anyone at all...

As for the earlier poster asking about running virtual machines/SQL Server etc. - I'm just bemused and astonished that someone who would know what these were wouldn't be able to grasp what sort of a spec. system they'd need to run them on frankly...
#21
therealjohnpeat
Bearing in mind that 90% of people who post to things like ReviewCentre are morons who have no idea what they're doing - that's actually not as bad as I expected.

You need to bear in mind that this isn't a 'refurb' like the Dell Outlet or Apple Store sell (which are, essentially, new machines) - it's been in use with some corporate type - probably for a year or 2 - it is 'pre owner' or 'second hand' in effect.

If they were careful/light users it will be near-as-new - if they led a harder life it may have more damage to show for it's life - you pays your money and...

If you're expecting 'brand new or near-as-dammit' you may be disappointed - but then this is an £1100 laptop for £220!!

p.s. on the comments of "Mr Zealous" dxx above me - it's almost unavoidable that people double Dual-Core processors Mhz in ads these days and I doubt if 1% of buyers give a **** if it's a Core2Duo or not.

What it IS - is 12" screen fully-specced laptop for <£220 and you're just splitting hairs and not helping anyone at all...

As for the earlier poster asking about running virtual machines/SQL Server etc. - I'm just bemused and astonished that someone who would know what these were wouldn't be able to grasp what sort of a spec. system they'd need to run them on frankly...


Are you BigPockets's admin? are you convincing people to buy it? Will you pay £1100 for the brand-new one? If it's worth £1100 it must have a critical error in this machine so they're selling it at £215.

It's normal when someone are asking what they haven't known, so what is wrong with you?
#22
Their website says "Used" not "refurbed".
#23
its a good laptop

but its a shame its a refurb / used (you never know the condition your getting), also the nipple is going to annoy the hell out of some of you if your used to a touchpad
#24
Bought the downsized chip one from IT247 recently (new) and very impressed so far -

Getting c 2hrs 40 or so on the battery life

Screen is good

Don't like the nipple - so I use a mouse when possible, but then I do with my other laptop as well.

Size and weight are fantastic.

I was looking at a netbook - had convinced myself it was the way forwards for portability until I saw an 8.9" screen, or rather, with my eyesight I didn't see it !

In my HUMBLE opinion, the laptop itself is fantastic - obviously I wouldn't say that at full list price, but new, at under £300 delivered with the full 3 year warranty it was great, however, even with the faster chip I have my reservations on buying a second hand laptop at this price.

So, good ultra portable laptop, but not convinced about the actual deal here, sorry.
#25
GAVINLEWISHUKD
No I'm saying Big pockets have the wrong description it has a Intel U2500 processor which is a Core Duo processor and not a Core 2 Duo (which would be a U7600)


I've bought two refurb computers from Big Pockets in the past, one desktop one laptop. Really happy with both, both are still running and came as described. That's the good news!

I bought one of these HP / Compaqs from BigPockets and it arrived on Friday. It is a really well built machine and a joy to use. It would have been nice, however, if I was sent one with the advertished Dual Core 1.2ghz CPU and not a Solo Core 1.2ghz!! HP confirmed this is so from the serial number....

I'm currently communicating with them via tickets as to what they are going to do. I'm not overly pleased that they don't seem to be able to make decisions on their own as they keep referring to their supplier.

I'm sure that they will sort this out, hopefully today, and I hope that mine's a one off for all of you considering a purchase. I will update you as to the outcome.

In summary though, BigPockets are cool and the laptop is great build quality.
#26
therealjohnpeat

p.s. on the comments of "Mr Zealous" dxx above me - it's almost unavoidable that people double Dual-Core processors Mhz in ads these days and I doubt if 1% of buyers give a **** if it's a Core2Duo or not.


Unavoidable that people do it? Deceptive people, maybe. Bet you'll not see any reputable organisation adding clock frequencies together. And besides, while it can be semi-forgiven as being obviously nonsense with modern dual-core chips (I mean, no-one's going to be duped into thinking that 12GHz chips exist, are they?), calling this a 2.4GHz Core2Duo when it is in fact a CoreDuo is quite a leap of deception. And I'm not sure what it says about you if you're of the opinion that people deserve to be lied to if they don't know any better. There's more to a CoreDuo and a Core2Duo than just a digit. You don't work for them, do you?
#27
barginz


I bought one of these HP / Compaqs from BigPockets and it arrived on Friday. It is a really well built machine and a joy to use. It would have been nice, however, if I was sent one with the advertished Dual Core 1.2ghz CPU and not a Solo Core 1.2ghz!! HP confirmed this is so from the serial number....

I'm currently communicating with them via tickets as to what they are going to do. I'm not overly pleased that they don't seem to be able to make decisions on their own as they keep referring to their supplier.

I'm sure that they will sort this out, hopefully today, and I hope that mine's a one off for all of you considering a purchase. I will update you as to the outcome.



Someone else had this with a dell from there and they kept fobbing him off...wrong installed ram IIRC. They sent another and it was the same!

It's a great machine but with such a fundamental difference I'd just arrange tio send it back. I doubt they have any of the proper spec - if they are ex-corporate the lease recycler's probably quoted them all the wrong spec....
#28
I think I will go for one of these, but, what is the lifetime of a laptop. Should I get 2 or 3 years out of it?

Thanks ;o)
#29
fluffcat1
Someone else had this with a dell from there and they kept fobbing him off...wrong installed ram IIRC. They sent another and it was the same!

It's a great machine but with such a fundamental difference I'd just arrange tio send it back. I doubt they have any of the proper spec - if they are ex-corporate the lease recycler's probably quoted them all the wrong spec....


I have a horrible feeling that the whole lot are like this. From the stock levels on their website they have sold about 20. My case has been passed on to the 'purchase manager' for resolution today (if he gets passed the snow).

Either mine is a one off, or they are all Solo Cores and the supplier has made a gaffe.

The nice thing, from my perspective, is that there is no wiggle room. HP confirms from the serial number that it is a Solo Core not a Dual Core. So it's either replace it with what I ordered or ir that is truly impossible I might take £100 and keep the underpowered alternative. Personally I want what I ordered as it looks like and feels like a really sturdy light machine.
#30
ought
I think I will go for one of these, but, what is the lifetime of a laptop. Should I get 2 or 3 years out of it?

Thanks ;o)


Depends how many times you drop it :)
#31
lamphan
Are you BigPockets's admin? are you convincing people to buy it? Will you pay £1100 for the brand-new one? If it's worth £1100 it must have a critical error in this machine so they're selling it at £215.

It's normal when someone are asking what they haven't known, so what is wrong with you?


It's not. I bought the 12" Toshiba Portege A100, that I am typing on now from them, two years ago, They were a job lot from a school - still with the stickers on (police sirens fade!). Everything has been great about it. From my experience the greatest risk with laptops is how much they have been hauled around and how. If its been banged and shaken about a lot then something may well break inside. If it has been taken out of secure locked cupboard, used for a bit and put back is going to be fine.

Personally I am happy for someone else to have made the first scratch to the case as I'm always upset when i do that to my £1000 new shiney toy. £200 does me fine! £1000 break just as easy if you drop them on the floor or in the bath.
#32
lamphan
Are you BigPockets's admin? are you convincing people to buy it? Will you pay £1100 for the brand-new one? If it's worth £1100 it must have a critical error in this machine so they're selling it at £215.

It's normal when someone are asking what they haven't known, so what is wrong with you?

I'm just a guy who's bought a fair few corporate refurb PCs over the years and I want to be sure people realise it's a USED machine they're getting here - a fact you seem not to have grasped despite my mentioning it twice already :)
#33
Isn't a refurb just a used one with a bit of a polish?
#34
dxx
Unavoidable that people do it? Deceptive people, maybe. Bet you'll not see any reputable organisation adding clock frequencies together. And besides, while it can be semi-forgiven as being obviously nonsense with modern dual-core chips (I mean, no-one's going to be duped into thinking that 12GHz chips exist, are they?), calling this a 2.4GHz Core2Duo when it is in fact a CoreDuo is quite a leap of deception. And I'm not sure what it says about you if you're of the opinion that people deserve to be lied to if they don't know any better. There's more to a CoreDuo and a Core2Duo than just a digit. You don't work for them, do you?

*YAWNS*
I have email lists from 3 major corporate PC bulk resellers here (the people BigPockets will be buying from most likely) and every single one 'adds the frequencies together' - in fact there's a joblot of 70 NC2400s on one list (from Christmas) which is probably EXACTLY the batch BP are selling - the spec. is identical (down to the likely mistakes!!) so it's possibly not even entirely BP's fault.

It's just how the refurb (USED) laptop market works - my only other advice here really is to remember that you have the DSR and SoGA on your side and if the machine shows-up worse-for-wear/not as described you can easily get a refund so where's the risk?
#35
ought
Isn't a refurb just a used one with a bit of a polish?

Not always.

Refurb - to me - means the machine has been back to a company who clean the HDDs, reinstall Windows, test the machines, fix any obvious faults/missing bits and give the machines a quick wipe of the cloth (this may be the manuf. - may be the leasing company - may be a third-party).

"Refurb" in the Dell Outlet/Apple Store sense is nearly-new/as-new machines sold at a discount - but refurb in THIS sense is a machine which will be a at least 1-2 years old and have some battle-damage - it's still 'refurbed' but it's also 'pre-owned' or even 'used'.
#36
barginz
Personally I am happy for someone else to have made the first scratch to the case as I'm always upset when i do that to my £1000 new shiney toy. £200 does me fine! £1000 break just as easy if you drop them on the floor or in the bath.

I'm with this guy 100% - the first week-or-two with a new laptop.mobile etc. is horrible as you tiptoe around waiting for that first drop or scratch - in many ways getting something 'pre-handled' is easier :)
#37
ought
I think I will go for one of these, but, what is the lifetime of a laptop. Should I get 2 or 3 years out of it?

Depends on

a) what sort of things you're going to do with it
b) how well you treat it
c) a bit of luck

Machines like this and the IBM T4xs that BP sell a lot of are good in that spares are quite easily available (screens, keyboards, HDDs, superdrives, batteries, hinges etc.) - these are corporate machines made to a MUCH higher standard than the £350 laptops you see in Tescos - and they really should last a long time with care, attention and assuming your needs don't outgrow their CPU/Memory etc. capabilities.

Obviously it's like a 2nd-hand-car tho - a lot depends on the previous owner and how much wear it's had upto now - but I have a Dell 'corporate' laptop here which is entering it's 8th year and still in daily use so it's definately possible :)
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barginz
I have a horrible feeling that the whole lot are like this. From the stock levels on their website they have sold about 20. My case has been passed on to the 'purchase manager' for resolution today (if he gets passed the snow).

Either mine is a one off, or they are all Solo Cores and the supplier has made a gaffe.

The nice thing, from my perspective, is that there is no wiggle room. HP confirms from the serial number that it is a Solo Core not a Dual Core. So it's either replace it with what I ordered or ir that is truly impossible I might take £100 and keep the underpowered alternative. Personally I want what I ordered as it looks like and feels like a really sturdy light machine.


[FONT="Verdana"]I'll be interested to see how your case works out, as it will have a bearing on others who are looking to purchase - I was myself considering it but I'm going to hang fire to see whether you get yours sorted out. Can you do me one favour though please and confirm what physical condition it is in i.e. any significant signs of wear & tear?

Cheers, Scotty Boy! :thumbsup:[/FONT]
#39
According to HP there are only 3 CPU options on that model - 2 Single Cores and 1 Core Duo.

Even the single cores SHOULD outperform a netbook tho - or at least be very similar to it - but reality has a tendency to make 'on paper' comparison like that rather untrue.

It's not as if you have a staggering amount of choice if you want a 12/14" ultraportable for under £300 of course - I guess it's a matter of value and whether you really need the horsepower (amusingly this laptops main competitor when new was a Sony which didn't have a CoreDuo option!)

p.s. I think a £100 refund is highly unrealistic - in reality if you're unhappy they may offer a smaller refund (to save having to get it posted back) but they're likely to have paid about £130+VAT for these so a £100 discount would leave them out of pocket :)
#40
therealjohnpeat
I'm with this guy 100% - the first week-or-two with a new laptop.mobile etc. is horrible as you tiptoe around waiting for that first drop or scratch - in many ways getting something 'pre-handled' is easier :)


:whistling::whistling:

:-D:-D

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