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Not a "Fantastic System", but if you need something for the "kids/Granny" then for justover £200 this has Base Unit / 17" TFT and an XP pro license!. Last time i checked there was a lot of cheap RAM about (£10 per GB). Wont play the latest "Games" but will get you on the net etc....

Product description HP DC7100 P4 2.8Ghz PC System with LG Flatron 17 Inch TFT
CPU / Processor Intel P4 2.8 HT (Hyper-threading)
Hard Drive Size 40 Gb Minimum
RAM / Memory Size 512Mb Minimum
Optical Drive(s) CD-ROM
Network / Connectivity 10/100 Network
Audio / Sound 16 bit Sound
Screen 17 Inch TFT Screen
Additional 4x USB,
Condition Used
Warranty 30 Days warranty
Operating System Windows XP Pro
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#1
Of all the recent HP small factor PC's I've supported over the last few years, these have been the most reliable.

Worth the money IMO.

I might get one myself as I have access to unlimited spare parts for these :w00t: .
#2
£200+ for a used pc with this spec is not hot for me. No optical burner 40gig hard drive. Poor value.
#3
harlzter
£200+ for a used pc with this spec is not hot for me. No optical burner 40gig hard drive. Poor value.

Agreed and only a 30 day warranty. Cold.
#4
£200+ for a used pc with this spec is not hot for me. No optical burner 40gig hard drive. Poor value.


Thanks "harlzter" for your views, this isn't in any way meant to be a "fantastic spec" PC, just one that comes with the TFT, base unit and a "Legit" license to run XP pro, I was more thinking of people on a tight budget who just want internet access with "no frills" but a licensed operating system ready to run with TFT monitor included. You will still need a mouse + keyboard (approx £10) but as a spare system for the kids i thought quite cheap and cheerfull as well as the fact they have quite a good build quality.
I deal with a lot of customers out there who's machine spec's are a lot worse than this, with "un-licensed software" and CRT monitors, if you think about the price of a XP pro license coupled with a TFT monitor then this is a far greater way of updating for them, unfortunatly the specs are not fantastic but this is reflected in the price.

Regards to all Billyhl.
#5
Seems reasonable to me.
#6
Heat from me, Very good value, yes its not the best, but you could get this baby running faster than most vista machines with a few tweaks, HOT HOT HOT!
#7
harlzter
£200+ for a used pc with this spec is not hot for me. No optical burner 40gig hard drive. Poor value.

How much is an optical burner going to set you back £16-18? Looks a good deal to me with a 17'' TFT monitor and XP Pro a bigger Hard drive wont cost a lot either if a buyer needs one
#8
These and Compaq Evo's (almost the same system) usually go for around £100-£120 at local pawn shops (without a monitor, usually around £30-£70 for a monitor, dependent on size). They were very popular with business so there are loads of them on the market being cleared.

For someone on a very tight budget I'd recommend one of the lower specced Evo's - the 2ghz models usually go for around £50-£80, coupled with a cheap tft and you can have a pc that can handle web browsing and Office style apps for not much more than £100.
#9
osiris;1877969
How much is an optical burner going to set you back £16-18? Looks a good deal to me with a 17'' TFT monitor and XP Pro a bigger Hard drive wont cost a lot either if a buyer needs one

yes but this has been posted as ideal for someone who wants a basic pc, so likelihood is they wouldnt know where to start upgrading drives, by the time you have added a larger hard drive, more memory as suggested by op and an optical you are heading towards £300 area, there have been dell desktops with monitors at that sort of price in the past and im sure there will be again, they come with the genuine licence AND full years warranty as opposed to 30 days and are not second or even third user pc's. There have also been new HP's for around £200 add £80 for the monitor and they wouldnt need upgrading either!

The idea of these as a starter or entry level pc is pointless as most people would want a miimum of cd writer to back such as photo's up, an entry level pc would require more than the 30 days piece of mind this offers as newbies to pc's wouldnt want to be delving if something does go wrong or upgrading the parts to get it half decent.
#10
think this is a great deal
As you can probably tell from the people on here that dismiss these systems for not having:
"The Latest Graphics Card" "Small Hard Drive" etc.. that they have no children, not married and are not on low income.
Deals like this make it affordable for us low income families who have to watch the pennies.
we all don't need the latest high spec computers, we just want a cheap LEGAL computer that the children enjoy, can use and can access the internet.
#11
i got myself the flagship HP desktop machine with 22inch widescreen hdmi lcd sceen
Its only about 2 months old and the hard drive has busted ! I hardly even use it as Im mostly on the company laptop.

The laptops I have heard are great but I must say I am most disappointed with the desktop. Good things its still under warranty !
#12
billyhl
Thanks "harlzter" for your views, this isn't in any way meant to be a "fantastic spec" PC, just one that comes with the TFT, base unit and a "Legit" license to run XP pro, I was more thinking of people on a tight budget who just want internet access with "no frills" but a licensed operating system ready to run with TFT monitor included. You will still need a mouse + keyboard (approx £10) but as a spare system for the kids i thought quite cheap and cheerfull as well as the fact they have quite a good build quality.
I deal with a lot of customers out there who's machine spec's are a lot worse than this, with "un-licensed software" and CRT monitors, if you think about the price of a XP pro license coupled with a TFT monitor then this is a far greater way of updating for them, unfortunatly the specs are not fantastic but this is reflected in the price.

Regards to all Billyhl.


What's up with your use of quote marks? It's "weird".
#13
Agharta
Agreed and only a 30 day warranty. Cold.


Yep, I'm sorry to say that this isn't hot at all. You can get a brand new Dell delivered for just £30 more.
#14
'Condition Used
Warranty 30 Days warranty'


Sorry, Cold
#15
Houldey
What's up with your use of quote marks? It's "weird".


Ah-ha! We meet again Houldey! And you appear to have joined the PC (punctuation correctness) brigade! ;-)
#16
There are much better spec machines on the Dell Outlet for between £145 and £160 delivered.
Scan has a Hannspree 19” TFT DVI/D-SUB for £91.59 on Today Only.
So for ~£237+ you get a much better spec PC with a proper warranty; that’s why I think it’s cold.
If I couldn’t afford the extra £30 I’d rather buy the Dell and a second hand monitor for sixty odd quid.

Inspiron Desktop 530
INSPIRON 530 E2140 PENTIUM DUAL CORE PRO
MEMORY DUAL CHANNEL 2048MB (2X1024) 667M
19-IN-1 MEDIA CARD READER
HARD DRIVE 320GB SERIAL ATA
ROXIO SOFTWARE FOR VISTA - CREATOR / MYD
DVD+/-RW (READWRITE) 16X
INTEGRATED INTEL GRAPHICS MEDIA ACCELERA
AUDIO INTEGRATED HDA 7.1 DOLBY DIGITAL C
DELL BLACK 2 BUTTON USB SCROLL OPTICAL M
ENGLISH IRISH KEYBOARD DELL QUIETKEY USB
ENGLISH WINDOWS VISTA HOME PREMIUM
ENGLISH MICROSOFT WORKS 9.0

£152.87 Grand Total Including Delivery and VAT
#17
komakino
Yep, I'm sorry to say that this isn't hot at all. You can get a brand new Dell delivered for just £30 more.


True but you have to accept the Dell with Vista which turns it into c**p!:whistling:
#18
Some of the dell outlet deals at the mo are much better.
#19
TBH its not really that good a deal, if your on a budgt its worth shopping around and these systems are £49 at computer fairs, obvisouly without a tft.

When not busy I made a budget machine up for my neice

http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/product.php?lang=&submenu=&menu=&product_id=24759&session=5fcaf82e677f86421972c5e633a253e5

IQON QUINTAL 2028VX PC
Intel D925 Dual Core 3.0GHz + 2x 2M Cache
2048M RAM
250G 7200RPM HDD
DVD-RW
Intel GMA 950 Graphics
USB 6x, PCI Express, Serial, Parallel.
Modem & LAN
Card Reader
Philips Keyboard, Optical Mouse & Powered Speakers
Vista Home Premium pre-installed

Base Unit £179.99 Inc Delivery
Put in a Asus nvidia 7500LE which has 256mb + can use another 256 of System mem via TC £15
Cannon MP210 printer/scanner deal from here for £15
Proview 15" TFT collected from Ebay £15
Total £225

Crapper Spec Machine but with a 19" TFT being sold at Currys for £499, ya dont get a printer scanner or Decent enough gfx card only onboad with the Currys one.

I know its out of stock at the moment at big pockets but one I got was brand new and they are waiting some new stocks.

Gives Windows Vista Experience of

Processor 4.8
Memory (RAM) 5.5
Graphics (Aero) 3.9
Graphics (Gaming) 3.4
Harddisk 5.5

The lowest is gaming but tested Team Fortress 2 on the one I made up and its givign me 60FPS at 1024x768 with Mid settings.

Just a bit of time and the one I made up would slaughter this one with load more extra's for £18 more. Oh and XP Pro lience's may well be registerted but if sold on they expire and you will not be able to move the licence to another PC as it would be HP machine only registered.
#20
RedSkywalker
True but you have to accept the Dell with Vista

No you don’t; there are plenty of Dells with XP or if you choose Vista Business or Ultimate you are entitled to use XP Pro as well. I know because that’s what I’ve done although I find Vista fine for my needs so will switch at some point.
#21
RedSkywalker
True but you have to accept the Dell with Vista which turns it into c**p!:whistling:


If you buy a Vostro desktop through the business site (which anyone can do) Dell give you a choice between XP and Vista (no extra charge). :p

Dell Vostro 200 + 17 inch TFT + Vista Basic (or XP Home) = 235.07 GBP (inc. VAT + delivery).

And Vista on the whole is OK in my experience, BTW.
#22
vista is terrible.

What I find terrible is people feeling the need to continue sharing their opinions on a subject that has been very well aired. Enough already. :roll:
#23
garbage456
so we have to search ebay to find a monitor for £15 and collect it?


How hard is that then, I did say

"if your on a budgt its worth shopping around "

actually took me an hour to find and buy and pick up the monitor from ebay. Any that was just my preference ya can pick up new 19" for £75 from local shops if your that fussy, still works out much better value that this one.

Ive never ever had any problems with Vista either the ones I make up or the pc I sell in my shops at all and a lot of of problems you have to blame the people who actually write rubbish software which still has 16 bit code in which Microsoft always said from the start Vista will not work with this code native and a lot of software houses were just lazy and didnt rewrite code.
#24
garbage456
it was mentioned above so I added to the conversation that I agree, read the rest of my post as well please before commenting on one small line.

Sorry, it was meant to be a general reference to people rabitting on about Vista; I removed the reference to you in the quote.

garbage456
this is the cheapest I can see on dell its not £140 as quoted above its £220 without a monitor but it has a cd/rw, wow

http://outlet.dell.com/Emea_Dfo/EuDispatcher?target=SpecPage&serviceTag=0GC71FE0&sessionID=LQLRXLrL!1581785870!-552092762!1207995217827

You can’t link directly to an Outlet Deal so your link is void.

If the cheapest you could find was £220 you were looking in the wrong place unless you didn’t take into account the Discount! Inspiron Desktops are usually the best budget value.
When you include the discount you get this:

A £180 system without VAT = £144 delivered.
A £200 system without VAT = £168 delivered.
A £220 system without VAT = £191 delivered.
#25
£207.50 inc del for a low spec PC with no DVDRW, short 30 DAY warranty and low RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yet £235 inlcluding delivery gets a NEW 1 YEAR WARANTY , more modern, faster, higher specced Dell 200MT with 17" monitor!!!!!!!!!!!

COLD. NOT WORTH THE RISK. If you counted Quidco the difference is even less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#26
This is not such a gooid spec or a good price.
You can get dualcore systems for this price.
#27
I offered this to my dog and he snarled, nipped me on the leg and grunted something about sausages and the Dell Outlet! Do they sell sausages on the Dell Outlet?
Either way, he’s more PC savvy than people voting this hot; good boy Rover.
#28
SmilingCrow

Either way, he’s more PC savvy than people voting this hot; good boy Rover.


I voted this hot, and I've been building and repairing PC's for 17 years (as well as being a HP, Dell and IBM accredited desktop engineer).

People here are missing some facts.

These PC's are VERY reliable, the most reliable of the recent small form factor PC's.

Which brings me to another point, that of it's size. These are small form factor, about half the size of the Dell small form factor PC's (plus the Vostro's are bloody ugly).
In fact, the picture on this site shows this to be the ultra slim version, which is much smaller again.
So it's great for hiding away in any room in the house.

These are also lower power, so as well as having lower electricity bills, you'll be doing a little less harm to the enviroment.

For small homes where people on a low budget just want to surf the net or play games that don't need the best PC in the world (and this will play stuff like WoW no problem), this would be a perfect PC, with the added bonus that it's unlikely to fail and incur any repair bills.

This is a decent deal, regardless of what the naysayers think.

I'd also like the naysayers to actually post a link of a better priced SFF PC with XP and a 17" screen. Until you do, you really should just be quiet...
#29
should be £150 max.for second hand
ebuyer had some cheap new prebuilds... think one was a fujitsu and was on here
was of similar spec for about 120 exc monitor

monitor under £80 so similar price
cheaper if you dont want tft
#30
jukkie
These are also lower power, so as well as having lower electricity bills, you'll be doing a little less harm to the enviroment.

Pentium 4s aren’t exactly known for their power efficiency!!!
I bought my parents a Vostro 400 which is very similar to the Inspiron 530 and it consumes 2W on Standby, 46W at idle and 77.5W at full load so not exactly a power hog; it’s 2.2GHz dual-core so much more powerful as well. It’s not SFF but it’s hardly large and available cheaply at the Dell Outlet.

jukkie
I'd also like the naysayers to actually post a link of a better priced SFF PC with XP and a 17" screen.

For people looking for a SFF PC I’d still recommend the various deals on the Dell Outlet as they start at under £150; you need to check to see which are SFF of course.

Woof woof.
#31
I voted this hot, and I've been building and repairing PC's for 17 years (as well as being a HP, Dell and IBM accredited desktop engineer).
"Jukkie"

These are certainly not a hot deal. I would have thought you would know that with the experience your have. I have manufacturer engineering accreditations too and been in the computer industry of over 25 years. This I would agree this was a reliable PC and a good SFF. But the low memory, poor CPU (and a P4's are power hungry) and poor Graphics power make this a bad deal at this price, but not a bad bit of kit. I would pay no more than £130 for this, inc the screen and OS.
#32
Kids? Granny's? I wouldn't even get it for my dog!!
#33
poor jukkie pwned
#34
Agharta


For people looking for a SFF PC I’d still recommend the various deals on the Dell Outlet as they start at under £150; you need to check to see which are SFF of course.

Woof woof.


FACT: Dell do NOT make a true 'small form factor' PC. I have a C521 which is supposed to be SFF (Dell actually call them 'mini towers') , and it's about 3-4 times the size/weight of the dc7100 ultra slim in this post.

I think your dogs getting a little too old, time to get it put down maybe?


hhhhbk
poor jukkie pwned


I've yet to see someone post a link to a PC the size of an average book (I really don't think you people comprehend exactly how small this PC actually is), plus a 17" TFT and Win XP for cheaper than this post.
I'll be pwned when someone does that, thanks.


Also, my nice Dell C521 SFF has died twice in one year since I bought it from new.
My Parents HP D530 SFF (which was second hand when I bought it for them) has been running for two and a half years without a single fault.

How about we don't even talk about Dell anymore, eh?


AND (just to shut you up completely), the cheapest PC on the Dell outlet site is £218 inc VAT and delivery (I took it through checkout up until it asks for credit card details). And that is also without a screen.
It also has 1GB of RAM with Vista as it's OS, which would actually run slower than 512MB with XP...
So yet again, please don't mention Dell.
#35
jukkie
FACT: Dell do NOT make a true 'small form factor' PC. I have a C521 which is supposed to be SFF, and it's about 3 times the size/weight of the dc7100 ultra slim in this post.
I think your dogs getting a little too old, time to get it put down maybe?

Since you are the man that decides what constitutes a SFF PC I and my imaginary dog shall bow and wave our tails to your omnipotence. :w00t:

But seriously, I haven’t seen people getting excited about how small this is apart from yourself so I don’t think the majority of people give a hoot. Feel free to continue to plough that barren furrow if you wish. Sparky says Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh. :x
#36
jukkie
Also, my nice Dell C521 SFF has died twice in one year since I bought it from new.
My Parents HP D530 SFF (which was second hand when I bought it for them) has been running for two and a half years without a single fault.

Well that’s convinced me then as statistically speaking looking at data for two PCs when over a 100 million are sold per year is very meaningful. :roll:
#37
jukkie
AND (just to shut you up completely), the cheapest PC on the Dell outlet site is £218 inc VAT and delivery (I took it through checkout up until it asks for credit card details). And that is also without a screen. So yet again, please don't mention Dell.

You forgot to choose the £57 off Voucher. :whistling: Sparky rolls around on the floor laughing. :p

So you had a bad experience with a Dell, get over it, move on, I don’t think people here find that interesting.

Enough already. :roll:
#38
Agharta
But seriously, I haven’t seen people getting excited about how small this is apart from yourself so I don’t think the majority of people give a hoot.

Erm, the only people who would give a hoot about small form factor PC's would be those that want one to save space.

People here keep slagging off this machine for it's spec when that isn't even it's main selling point.

All everyone cares about is that it's not a frickin Dell with dual core and loads of ram.
For people who actually want a very small space saving PC, you simply can't find a better PC than this for cheaper...

As for my bad experience with Dell, I have since bought my daughter a Dell PC and got myself a Vostro laptop, so I'm not a Dell hater in any way.
#39
jukkie
People here keep slagging off this machine for it's spec when that isn't even it's main selling point.
All everyone cares about is that it's not a frickin Dell with dual core and loads of ram.

I think people are also slagging it off because it’s second hand and only has a 30 day warranty.
I don’t think people here particularly love Dell it’s just that they do offer a lot of inexpensive systems which appeals to people.
I can’t vouch for the long term reliability of Dell PCs but I imagine there are surveys that can throw some light on that.
#40
Agharta

I can’t vouch for the long term reliability of Dell PCs but I imagine there are surveys that can throw some light on that.

I'm a walking, talking, survey. On a daily basis I have to fix more Dell's than HP's :whistling: .
And at the site I work at, HP desktops outnumber Dell's by around 4 to 1....

Anyway, even with the few people here who don't like this deal, it's temperature hasn't suffered too much.

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