HP G72-b10SA Core-i3 17" Win7 64bit HDMI @ saveonlaptops £401.90 inc p&p - HotUKDeals
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Seems like a good price for a 17" Core i3 lappy. This is not a desktop replacement!

Processor Intel® Core™ i3 Dual Core (350M, 3MB Cache, 2.26 GHz)
Screen 17.3" (HP BrightView, LED High Definition 1600x900 Resolution)
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit
RAM 3GB (DDR3 800MHZ)
Hard Drive 320GB
Optical Drive DVD Rewriter (Records DVDs 8x & CDs 24x & Dual Layer Super Multi)
Graphics Integrated (Intel® GMA X4500 3D Graphics with up to 384MB Shared Memory)
Wireless LAN Wireless (802.11b/g/n Wireless)
Network Card 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet
Integrated Webcam Integrated Webcam with Microphone
Card Reader 5-in-1 card reader (SD//MS/MS-Pro/MMC/xD-Picture card™)
USB Ports 3x USB 2.0 ports
Bluetooth Version 2.0
Speakers Intergrated Stereo Speakers
VGA Port 1 External VGA Port
Kensington Lock Kensington lock slot
Charge Time 2.5 Hours
HDMI 1x HDMI Port
Warranty HP Pavilion 12 Month Warranty (Also use for Consumer Compaq's)
Battery Life 2-3 Hours (up to 3 hours with power management)
Weight 2-3 Kg (This Model 2.72kg)
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#1
seems a good spec and a good price, though with low battery life (to be expect for this spec) it is definitely more of a desktop replacement (plus it is pretty heavy).
#2
Good deal for 17". I thought it said i7 - now that would be a good deal for £400!
#3
wordsworth
seems a good spec and a good price, though with low battery life (to be expect for this spec) it is definitely more of a desktop replacement (plus it is pretty heavy).


I have an HP Laptop and battery time is always poor. Mine is a bit old now and I am lucky if I get 5 mins. Mine is only a 12".
#4
"Mine is a bit old now and I am lucky if I get 5 mins. Mine is only a 12"."

Oops I've given a gimme to the innuendo boys.
#5
Nice find. Not bad considering it's an i3 + 17" screen :)
#6
I have a HP sister Compaq laptop and battery "life" was 1h when it was new, and a year later max 5min. I had a Dell before and after 2.5 years it was still holding charge for over 2h with Photoshop and playing videos. (And that Dell after 3.5-4 years still easily beat that brand new HP battery...)
#7
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.
#8
Pmsl @ msharif911's 12", my wife wishes!!!
#9
msharif911
[quote=wordsworth] I have an HP Laptop and battery time is always poor. Mine is a bit old now and I am lucky if I get 5 mins. Mine is only a 12".


5 mins? really? :P (sorry I had to)
#10
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.


No silly boy - he was meaning the 17" lappy was 'desktop replacement' i.e big and bulky lappy; not that a mobile i3 will wipe the floor with any desktop processor...

That said check out some benchmarks, the i3-350 is no slouch when it comes to dual-core mobile processors...
#11
GFX card is a bit poop though. Still a good find.
#12
I was all set to buy the Dell quad core posted earlier, and then this pops up.
Don't know what to do now!
#13
cymru1978
I was all set to buy the Dell quad core posted earlier, and then this pops up.
Don't know what to do now!

although this is slightly lower ram/hdd/cpu speed, imo the screen resolution is more important for general usage.
but didn't i see you post something about graphics in another thread? this has integrated - whilst they are good for integrated and general usage they are not anything to shout about for games.
#14
Yes, silly kid. I know exactly what he meant. Read it again....

Then explain to me how any part of that spec including its size or weight compares to a desktop? It doesn't does it? A 17" display is not a desktop replacement, neither is a 2.272 KG weight. Both my notebooks weigh in excess of that. One is 4yrs old, has a 17" screen, weighs 3.5kg+ and has 4mb L2 cache, but it isn't a desktop replacement. It's a portable machine. 2.272 kg isn't heavy for a notebook if it's well made Show me a notebook with a 24" 1920*1200 res and 12mb L2 cache then we'll talk desktop replacement.

wombat6025
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.

No silly boy - he was meaning the 17" lappy was 'desktop replacement' i.e big and bulky lappy; not that a mobile i3 will wipe the floor with any desktop processor...

That said check out some benchmarks, the i3-350 is no slouch when it comes to dual-core mobile processors...
#15
scratch1964
Yes, silly kid. I know exactly what he meant. Read it again....

Then explain to me how any part of that spec including its size or weight compares to a desktop? It doesn't does it? A 17" display is not a desktop replacement, neither is a 2.272 KG weight. Both my notebooks weigh in excess of that. One is 4yrs old, has a 17" screen, weighs 3.5kg+ and has 4mb L2 cache, but it isn't a desktop replacement. It's a portable machine. 2.272 kg isn't heavy for a notebook if it's well made Show me a notebook with a 24" 1920*1200 res and 12mb L2 cache then we'll talk desktop replacement.

wombat6025
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.


No silly boy - he was meaning the 17" lappy was 'desktop replacement' i.e big and bulky lappy; not that a mobile i3 will wipe the floor with any desktop processor...

That said check out some benchmarks, the i3-350 is no slouch when it comes to dual-core mobile processors...

anything you use in place of a desktop is a desktop replacement so would automatically qualify. whether its to save space, get some portability or any other reason is irrelevant.

generally over 15 inch is considered too big to be conveniently portable - obviously it is portable but carrying it everywhere would be plain annoying to the majority of people. If you want to lug about a heavy bulky piece of kit thats your choice but you would be in the minority.

also the power of such a laptop may be higher than the desktop that it replaces - mine certainly was.
though even thats irrelevant as most people dont need the full power of their laptop never mind the power of the desktop it would replace.
#16
brilly
cymru1978
I was all set to buy the Dell quad core posted earlier, and then this pops up.
Don't know what to do now!

although this is slightly lower ram/hdd/cpu speed, imo the screen resolution is more important for general usage.
but didn't i see you post something about graphics in another thread? this has integrated - whilst they are good for integrated and general usage they are not anything to shout about for games.


Tbh I've posted quite a lot lately as I'm in the market for a laptop and had got it down to two, then just the Dell, and now this one pops up.

My laptop will mainly be used for your general every day stuff along with Football Manager, which will be the only game that gets played as I use Xbox for gaming.
I like this HP due to screen size and style

Back to the graphics, the Dell doesn't have integrated (iirc) but the graphics card is a 1gb Mobility Radion HD.

I really can't make my mind up!
#17
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.


17" laptops are commonly referred to as "Desktop Replacements" this may not replace a high end rig but it will be more than adequate for many. For general web browsing and video playback this will be sufficient for most peoples needs.
#18
£150 cash back for working laptop less than 5 years old.
http://www.tradeuptohp.com/

The site wont work for me so can't check if it's a qualifying product:
#19
cymru1978
brilly
cymru1978
I was all set to buy the Dell quad core posted earlier, and then this pops up.
Don't know what to do now!

although this is slightly lower ram/hdd/cpu speed, imo the screen resolution is more important for general usage.
but didn't i see you post something about graphics in another thread? this has integrated - whilst they are good for integrated and general usage they are not anything to shout about for games.


Tbh I've posted quite a lot lately as I'm in the market for a laptop and had got it down to two, then just the Dell, and now this one pops up.

My laptop will mainly be used for your general every day stuff along with Football Manager, which will be the only game that gets played as I use Xbox for gaming.
I like this HP due to screen size and style

Back to the graphics, the Dell doesn't have integrated (iirc) but the graphics card is a 1gb Mobility Radion HD.

I really can't make my mind up!

yeah i know the feeling i was posting in them all the time a few months back when i was in the market for one.
sorry i assumed you meant the dell from tesco which is out of stock http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/dell-inspiron-15r-black-intel-core-i3-370m-processor-4gb-500gb-15-6-windows-7-ho/864668#comments
so many choices!
that dell seems pretty good, graphics card pretty nice for price point and no probs with football manager (i expect most will run it anyway though)
dont know too much about the amd cpus but this site ( http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html ) ranks it slightly below i3-350m over all but individual benchmarks seem to vary alot so unsure of strengths/weaknesses.



Edited By: brilly on Feb 01, 2011 10:11: .
#20
Bought this at Christmas.... Upgraded the RAM from 2GB to 4GB. Havent had any problems yet... although I can't vouch for the battery life as I havent had the chance to try it out anywhere other than home as it is quite large, but amazingly quite light.

Being a Graphics Designer the extra screen "Real Esate" is a fantastic addition for those willing to make use of it. Everything runs fine once you remove the bloatware.... hate that crap. If you can -- run a fresh intallation.

As far as gaming is concerned... Oblivion and HL2 will run quite nicely on a detailed setting...

Although *warning* It can run quite hot when running more intensive applications. Adobe CS5 and After Effects run reasonably well. Remember that these Integrated Intel HD cards are not a "Gaming" card as far as new releases are concerned. HD video however runs very smoothly. Pricewise -- quite reasonable... although I practically stole mine at around £260 at a small retailers brand new -- End of Stock Clearance sale!

*Warning* -- The black plastic bezel around the screen can be quite prone to scratches.. This has yet to happen to me but I have heard reports of this area becoming easily "scuffed". Also Investing in a mouse is advisable.. the textured trackpad while quite nice to look at can be tempermental.

Aesthetically... its very pretty - If showing of is your kinda thing :) You really can't go wrong!

Edited By: 41PHAC3NT4UR1 on Feb 01, 2011 10:18: Transcription Error
#21
rippers123
£150 cash back for working laptop less than 5 years old.

http://www.tradeuptohp.com/


The site wont work for me so can't check if it's a qualifying product:


Checked site but this isn't a qualifying product :(
#22
Not with integrated graphics and a mobile i3 they aren't. 17" notebooks are a "common size" in 2011, not "commonly referred to as desktop replacements." Your post is self evident of that. Just look at it. You are the one referring to a desktop replacement, not the vendor, whom makes no reference to it. The desktop replacement theme arrived years ago when 17 and 19 inch screens were common with most desktop PC packages. Hence, 17 inch notebook versus 17 inch desktop. The common display size for desktop machines now is certainly not 17 inches and the average desktop system, never mind a powerhouse runs at least an i5, not an i3. No, the desktop replacement theme was in reference to a notebook that would imitate an equivalent desktop system, independently of weight and size. A true desktop replacement would have a desktop CPU as does my old 15" Fujitsu-Siemens. As for bulk and weight, well there is carrying around (as in carrying in a bag) and carrying around as in a consultant (whom carries a 17" notebook in the car).

Your comparison is not on a like for like basis by any stretch of the imagination. You can't simply call a notebook a desktop replacement because it has a 17" display. It has to have all comparable features to a desktop too. How many desktop machines do you know of with 3 USB ports? My 4yr old notebook has 6 USB ports, 2 x HDD, dedicated graphics and 4MB L2 cache. I carry it everywhere as do many of my colleagues carry 17" machines too. My desktop is way more powerful, but is still only a moderate spec.

Xantia
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.

17" laptops are commonly referred to as "Desktop Replacements" this may not replace a high end rig but it will be more than adequate for many. For general web browsing and video playback this will be sufficient for most peoples needs.
#23
scratch1964
Not with integrated graphics and a mobile i3 they aren't. 17" notebooks are a "common size" in 2011, not "commonly referred to as desktop replacements." Your post is self evident of that. Just look at it. You are the one referring to a desktop replacement, not the vendor, whom makes no reference to it. The desktop replacement theme arrived years ago when 17 and 19 inch screens were common with most desktop PC packages. Hence, 17 inch notebook versus 17 inch desktop. The common display size for desktop machines now is certainly not 17 inches and the average desktop system, never mind a powerhouse runs at least an i5, not an i3. No, the desktop replacement theme was in reference to a notebook that would imitate an equivalent desktop system, independently of weight and size. A true desktop replacement would have a desktop CPU as does my old 15" Fujitsu-Siemens. As for bulk and weight, well there is carrying around (as in carrying in a bag) and carrying around as in a consultant (whom carries a 17" notebook in the car).

Your comparison is not on a like for like basis by any stretch of the imagination. You can't simply call a notebook a desktop replacement because it has a 17" display. It has to have all comparable features to a desktop too. How many desktop machines do you know of with 3 USB ports? My 4yr old notebook has 6 USB ports, 2 x HDD, dedicated graphics and 4MB L2 cache. I carry it everywhere as do many of my colleagues carry 17" machines too. My desktop is way more powerful, but is still only a moderate spec.

Xantia
scratch1964
Core i3 = desktop replacement?

More like a Celeron replacement.


17" laptops are commonly referred to as "Desktop Replacements" this may not replace a high end rig but it will be more than adequate for many. For general web browsing and video playback this will be sufficient for most peoples needs.


I stand corrected. This obviously cannot be used as a "desktop replacement" for most people although a very similar spec machine (FS xi2528) has replaced a desktop for myself over the last 2.5 years or so. I have corrected my original post.
#24
excellent deal. heat added.

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