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SPECS:
Processor: AMD Quad-Core A8-3520M (1.6 GHz up to 2.5 GHz with AMD Turbo Core, 4 MB L2 cache)
Operating System: Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64
RAM: 6 GB (1 x 2 GB, 1 x 4 GB)
Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 6620G + 7450M Dual GPU (1 GB DDR3 dedicated)
Screen type: 15.6" HD LED BrightView (1366 x 768)
Hard drive: 750 GB
Optical disk drive: SuperMulti DVD±R/RW with Double Layer Support
Memory card reader: Multi-Format Digital Media Card Reader
TV Output: VGA + HDMI
Sound: Altec Lansing Speakers
USB 2.0 x 3
Size: W 374 x D 245 mm
Thickness: 36.3 mm
Weight 2.55 kg

* Eligible for Windows 8 Upgrade promo for just £15
Also available at Dixons for £399, link on the first post :)
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#1
Went to Comet and showed them this deal and they were surprised as the A8 processor is usually for laptops over £600.
The dual graphics also have good reviews, I won't play games on my laptop so I don't need a high-end video card.
For the price, there is no laptop to match the spec of this thing. It may be discontinued but it will serve anyone for a very long time.

PC World/Currys/Dixons were selling these last month for £420 (brand new) but ran out of stock.
EDIT: Dixons (who partly owns Pixmania) currently have it in stock for £399 - click here for the link

Extra features that I like are the small LED lights on the Caps lock key and the Wifi key which turns on when in use. Much better than my previous laptop where they are placed somewhere you have to look for to see if it's on or not. The touchpad is dual touch, you can use 2 fingers to scroll the page up/down or pinch to zoom in/out (see video link at the bottom of this post). There is also an indicator to see if it's on and a double tap on the corner turns it on/of which is very convenient for people who type a lot.

Dealing with Pixmania was excellent in my experience.
Here's mine after covering it with vinyl stickers to protect for scratches:

http://i.imgur.com/tZ7sF.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/XXCAL.jpg?1

According to Compare-Processors.com: The AMD’s A8-3520M bumps up the base and turbo clock of the A8-3500M by 100 MHz and should give you 5% to 7% CPU performance improvement, making it more competitive against the Intel’s Sandy Bridge (2nd gen) Core i3 processor to great extent and to Core i5 to some extent. The A8-3520M comes under the Llano APU group and has integrated graphics that outperforms the Intel’s integrated HD Graphics in Sandy bridge processors by 2x margin.

Link for Windows Upgrade promo

Video review

Click here to compare the graphics card to others




Edited By: gx3k on Jul 07, 2012 22:47: update
[mod]#2
Looks nice! Heat added :)
#3
I got the recon of this for £322 at Dixons, its a very smart and rapid notebook. Bargain at the time, and HP Quickweb is cool too.
#4
Anyone know how good the graphics card(s) are? How do they comapre to an Nvidia 640/630m?
1 Like #5
I'd rather pay the extra £7 to get it from Dixons (in stock) than give these jokers my cash. Nice laptop all the same.
#6
Good price, however I've read reports that the crossfire combination of graphics cards in these laptop models can actually cause more issues than performance gains.

Heat given anyway, as its still a lot of laptop for the money


Edited By: vwdan on Jul 06, 2012 14:36
#7
Ive got one, fantastic bit of kit, no problems with playing any games on high, not tested that many but arma 2 dayz & arma 2 fine, battlefield 3 fine, skyrim fine!
1 Like #8
Butters
Ive got one, fantastic bit of kit, no problems with playing any games on high, not tested that many but arma 2 dayz & arma 2 fine, battlefield 3 fine, skyrim fine!

Crossfire kicks in on graphics intensive games, I have Crysis set to high and it is beautiful
#9
I use mine to edit full HD videos and it works excellently :)
#10
You said Dixons out of stock and £420.

Not from my search it isn't, nor is it £420, try in stock and £399.99

http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-g6-1331ea-15-6-laptop-silver-11884802-pdt.html

Edited By: davelfc on Jul 06, 2012 15:22
#11
Shipping fees: From £ 6.30
#12
The CPU is about equivalent to a i3-2340M. Personally find the g6 model ugly shape and plastic. But if you don't mind that, the dedicated graphics card should make video editing run smoothly, but is not enough for the latest games.

You can get the same from Dell but have the option for higher specs for little more money.
1 Like #13
davelfc
You said Dixons out of stock and £420.

Not from my search it isn't, nor is it £420, try in stock and £399.99

http://www.dixons.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-g6-1331ea-15-6-laptop-silver-11884802-pdt.html

Thanks for the heads up, will update the post :)
#14
davelfc
I'd rather pay the extra £7 to get it from Dixons (in stock) than give these jokers my cash. Nice laptop all the same.

Pixmania is part of the Dixons group. They're all the same jokers. PCWorld/Currys too!
#15
went into pcworld about an hour ago they are £399.99 down from £499.99 instore too
#16
monkeyboy1982
davelfc
I'd rather pay the extra £7 to get it from Dixons (in stock) than give these jokers my cash. Nice laptop all the same.

Pixmania is part of the Dixons group. They're all the same jokers. PCWorld/Currys too!

Ah, the illusion of choice.
#17
Looking for a new laptop to replace my ailing 4 year old Asus. Don't necessarily need it to run top end games, but do need something that will play and edit HD video flawlessly and I want to be able to multi-task with things like updating itunes while web surfing and watching a video without the machine grinding to a halt. My budget is £400 so this looks pretty good.

I've been told that the Intel processors are much better than any AMDs, but am I right that the seperate graphics card would be better suited for HD video editing than the integrated ones in the i3/i5 processors? Or will the graphics card only help with gaming?

Any advice would be great.
#18
gx3k

Here's mine after covering it with vinyl stickers to protect for scratches:

Where'd you get the vinyl stickers from, I was thinking about putting some on mine?
#19
tried to place an order but it keeps saying I have to have the vip card which is £17.00, i ordered this along with a bag to push it over £400 so I get the £12 off, but this vip keeps adding on the £17 lol. hope this is a good laptop for my son for uni use (in other words prob music and games ) lol
1 Like #20
its pixmania

god help you
#21
mrsandman
Looking for a new laptop to replace my ailing 4 year old Asus. Don't necessarily need it to run top end games, but do need something that will play and edit HD video flawlessly and I want to be able to multi-task with things like updating itunes while web surfing and watching a video without the machine grinding to a halt. My budget is £400 so this looks pretty good.

I've been told that the Intel processors are much better than any AMDs, but am I right that the seperate graphics card would be better suited for HD video editing than the integrated ones in the i3/i5 processors? Or will the graphics card only help with gaming?

Any advice would be great.

I am like you, I use my laptop to edit full HD videos and this laptop does it excellently. Intel being better than AMD isn't really true when you factor in price and model of the processor. For the same price, you can get an AMD processor that is better than Intel. The A8 quad core AMD processor in this laptop is more than enough for what most people need. The dual graphics help with effects on videos and transcoding as well so it will serve you well if you're using it for video editing.

Newt1993
gx3k

Here's mine after covering it with vinyl stickers to protect for scratches:

Where'd you get the vinyl stickers from, I was thinking about putting some on mine?

I got it from eBay, they are called Carbon Fibre Vinyl Film. They come in many colours, I got mine here.

brrttpaul
tried to place an order but it keeps saying I have to have the vip card which is £17.00, i ordered this along with a bag to push it over £400 so I get the £12 off, but this vip keeps adding on the £17 lol. hope this is a good laptop for my son for uni use (in other words prob music and games ) lol

Yeah, the VIP thing is annoying and people needs to look closely to take it off. How did you get the £12 off? Is it a promo?
#22
gx3k
I am like you, I use my laptop to edit full HD videos and this laptop does it excellently. Intel being better than AMD isn't really true when you factor in price and model of the processor. For the same price, you can get an AMD processor that is better than Intel. The A8 quad core AMD processor in this laptop is more than enough for what most people need. The dual graphics help with effects on videos and transcoding as well so it will serve you well if you're using it for video editing.

Thanks for the advice. This sounds pretty perfect. Gonna pop into Currys tomorrow to take a look at it.

Edited By: mrsandman on Jul 07, 2012 22:50
#23
Can anyone comment on how this compares-

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/hp-pavilion-g6-1220sa-refurbished-15-6-laptop-charcoal-grey-12263581-pdt.html

The only differences I can see is it's the 3500M instead of the 3520M (1.5GHz vs 1.6GHz I think?) and only has a single graphics card rather than the dual. On the plus side it has a 1TB HDD rather than 750GB and is £80 cheaper (but is a refurb)

Am I right that the only majorly noticable thing would be lower performance on high end games? Shouldn't make much difference on regular use multi-tasking and HD video editing?
1 Like #24
HP residential kit is designed to break just outside of warranty. HP business kit could last a decade by which point it would be obsolete and need replacing anyway. At least the chip runs cool so it can't overheat!

I work in one of the few remaining independent highstreet PC shops and we see all sorts of laptops, the worst for reliability are HP residential. The best seem to be Lenovo and Asus. Toshiba are good but their hard drives are failing more than usual at the moment so give them 6-12 months break before considering again.
#25
Hate pixmania
#26
mrsandman
Looking for a new laptop to replace my ailing 4 year old Asus. Don't necessarily need it to run top end games, but do need something that will play and edit HD video flawlessly and I want to be able to multi-task with things like updating itunes while web surfing and watching a video without the machine grinding to a halt. My budget is £400 so this looks pretty good.

I've been told that the Intel processors are much better than any AMDs, but am I right that the seperate graphics card would be better suited for HD video editing than the integrated ones in the i3/i5 processors? Or will the graphics card only help with gaming?

Any advice would be great.

Video editing requires much less GPU power than encoding. If you are encoding video then it will help immensely especially if the GPU supports CUDA or Quicksync. So no I wouldn't say this deal is any better for video editing.
#27
gx3k
mrsandman

I've been told that the Intel processors are much better than any AMDs, but am I right that the seperate graphics card would be better suited for HD video editing than the integrated ones in the i3/i5 processors? Or will the graphics card only help with gaming?

I am like you, I use my laptop to edit full HD videos and this laptop does it excellently. Intel being better than AMD isn't really true when you factor in price and model of the processor. For the same price, you can get an AMD processor that is better than Intel.

Video editing is mostly done using the CPU, not the GPU, and I'm afraid in this case Intel make a *much* better CPU. Depending on which software you're using you can sometimes get the GPU to help out with video encoding (i.e. putting it all together once you're done editing) or converting (so your ipod can play it) but I've had problems with video quality in the past for example I've converted 1080p films down to 800x480 for an old-ish phone and Handbrake (which only uses the CPU) gives me a flawless (to my eyes) video, while Badaboom gives me a file 1/3rd bigger and quite distorted.

But back to CPU performance in general, notebookcheck keep a pretty large list of benchmarks run on various CPUs so they're usually a good first stop to see what the performance is like compared to other chips, the A8-3520M is down in 153rd place at the time of writing and it's a quad core so bear in mind that it should be good at multithreaded tasks like video encoding, yet it's about on par with an Intel Core i3 2310M dual core for multithreaded tasks and the Intel chip then is about 35% faster for single threaded tasks (most of your day to day stuff like web browsing), this is Intel's cheapest chip. If you scroll down the list of hot computing deals you'll find a Lenovo B570 with an i5-2450M processor for £8 more with a bunch of extra free goodies, 30% faster for multithreaded tasks and twice as fast as single threaded ones.

So, this AMD chip is pretty poor value for most tasks, single or multi threaded, so long as you're using the CPU an Intel chip will be better. Why does it even exist? Games! Intel chips will play 1080p video with no problems so it's certainly not that, but games rely pretty heavily on having a good graphics processor, they don't care how bad your CPU is, there have been legends of a pair of 600Mhz Pentium 3s from 1999 playing Crysis just fine so long as they have a good graphics processor. These AMD chips do undoubtedly beat Intel's integrated graphics for the task so modern games will be playable on low and probably medium settings too.

TL;DR This CPU sucks compared to the competition, only buy this is you're gonna use it for gaming 80% of the time it's on. If you're gonna do anything else, but something with an Intel i3/i5/i7.



Edited By: CampGareth on Jul 08, 2012 11:40
#28
CampGareth
gx3k
mrsandman

I've been told that the Intel processors are much better than any AMDs, but am I right that the seperate graphics card would be better suited for HD video editing than the integrated ones in the i3/i5 processors? Or will the graphics card only help with gaming?

I am like you, I use my laptop to edit full HD videos and this laptop does it excellently. Intel being better than AMD isn't really true when you factor in price and model of the processor. For the same price, you can get an AMD processor that is better than Intel.

Video editing is mostly done using the CPU, not the GPU, and I'm afraid in this case Intel make a *much* better CPU. Depending on which software you're using you can sometimes get the GPU to help out with video encoding (i.e. putting it all together once you're done editing) or converting (so your ipod can play it) but I've had problems with video quality in the past for example I've converted 1080p films down to 800x480 for an old-ish phone and Handbrake (which only uses the CPU) gives me a flawless (to my eyes) video, while Badaboom gives me a file 1/3rd bigger and quite distorted.

But back to CPU performance in general, notebookcheck keep a pretty large list of benchmarks run on various CPUs so they're usually a good first stop to see what the performance is like compared to other chips, the A8-3520M is down in 153rd place at the time of writing and it's a quad core so bear in mind that it should be good at multithreaded tasks like video encoding, yet it's about on par with an Intel Core i3 2310M dual core for multithreaded tasks and the Intel chip then is about 35% faster for single threaded tasks (most of your day to day stuff like web browsing), this is Intel's cheapest chip. If you scroll down the list of hot computing deals you'll find a Lenovo B570 with an i5-2450M processor for £8 more with a bunch of extra free goodies, 30% faster for multithreaded tasks and twice as fast as single threaded ones.

So, this AMD chip is pretty poor value for most tasks, single or multi threaded, so long as you're using the CPU an Intel chip will be better. Why does it even exist? Games! Intel chips will play 1080p video with no problems so it's certainly not that, but games rely pretty heavily on having a good graphics processor, they don't care how bad your CPU is, there have been legends of a pair of 600Mhz Pentium 3s from 1999 playing Crysis just fine so long as they have a good graphics processor. These AMD chips do undoubtedly beat Intel's integrated graphics for the task so modern games will be playable on low and probably medium settings too.

TL;DR This CPU sucks compared to the competition, only buy this is you're gonna use it for gaming 80% of the time it's on. If you're gonna do anything else, but something with an Intel i3/i5/i7.



Jesus. Rants on about the chip, forgetting the dedicated crossfire graphics compared to Intel's rubbish integrated HD offering.
Its swings and roundabouts. Laptop isnt all about CPU no more than camera isnt all about mp count.

edit- I see you did mention graphics in the last para, so fair play. Therefore I assume you will know just how stupid it is to combine a decent i5 chip with the naff 3000HD integrated gpu. It throttles the whole system.


Edited By: Scribbles on Jul 08, 2012 12:47: addition
#29
What I can say is that I own this particular model and it does what I want excellently (Full HD video editing & general web browsing).
Anything more it can do on top of that is a plus. This deal is not for everyone and I am not saying it is the best for all types of users.
If you can find a brandnew laptop that match the specs (Quad core A8, Dual graphics, 6GB RAM, 750GB HDD, etc) for the same price or lower,
please post them to help others. Let's not make this thread a debate about AMD vs Intel.


Edited By: gx3k on Jul 08, 2012 13:27
1 Like #30
I work for a company that sells refurb laptops. For many people just having a dual core cpu, with 2GB ram and XP, Vista or 7 will do everything they need. The laptop even in this deal is overkill for many people unless they game, and many gamers will stick to desktops. I hardly sell many desktops now, everyone wants a tablet or laptop or possibly an all in one desktop. It's the same with phones I have a SGS2, I have friends with HTC One X and SGS3 and there's simply no reason for me to upgrade. Many people never utilise the power of computers today.

If anyone wants to know more info about the GPU combo in this system then check this link >

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6620G-HD-7450M-Dual-Graphics.73445.0.html

There aren't any benchmarks for that combo, here's a slightly lower spec combo, which to be honest isn't great for gaming >

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6520G-HD-7450M-Dual-Graphics.69713.0.html


Edited By: fishmaster on Jul 08, 2012 13:56: extrafo
1 Like #31
Scribbles

Jesus. Rants on about the chip, forgetting the dedicated crossfire graphics compared to Intel's rubbish integrated HD offering.
Its swings and roundabouts. Laptop isnt all about CPU no more than camera isnt all about mp count.

edit- I see you did mention graphics in the last para, so fair play. Therefore I assume you will know just how stupid it is to combine a decent i5 chip with the naff 3000HD integrated gpu. It throttles the whole system.

Ranting is very much my style :P Did go a bit over the top, sorry, now back to the topic at hand.

You're right, partially, it isn't all about the CPU but a heckuva lot of it is, you boot up Windows 7 and aero nudges the GPU just a tiny bit for 3D acceleration, considering when you haven't installed drivers yet it runs aero on a virtual GPU simulated on the CPU it's safe to say aero would be fast on just about anything. What next, maybe you load up Chrome, I'm afraid I don't have the default flag settings and I'm on a developer copy of it, but I'm pretty sure by default GPU accelerated web page rendering is off, either way it's 2D so doesn't need much. Music player and chat programs are usually CPU only.

Video decoding is tbh a bit of a mystery to me, my players use DXVA as most probably do because it's supported by both major GPU manufacturers, I can't find anything firm about whether Intel chips just use DXVA or not, it looks like support was 'getting better' by the end of 2011, might be fixed entirely by now. For lack of information, chalk that one up to the AMD side as it can just use the GPU and be fine.

Games definitely hit the GPU hard, hard enough for AMD's side to win that one outright. What else touches the GPU though? Photoshop does a little bit, again that's 2D so won't challenge anything... suggestions? I'm out of ideas.

So, the wins for an Intel chip at an equivalent price are: Web browsing, chat, music ('general usage')
For AMD: Games

Make your choice based on what you want a laptop to do.

(P.S I was considering one of these specifically because I wanted a laptop that would play games, at least until I realised that a £400 desktop would beat it by a long way, and I can do without games on the move)
banned#32
for OP: post load temps.

run Furmark for 20 mins for GPU and prime95 for 20 mins for CPU.

measure with HWMonitor.
#33
CampGareth
Scribbles

Jesus. Rants on about the chip, forgetting the dedicated crossfire graphics compared to Intel's rubbish integrated HD offering.
Its swings and roundabouts. Laptop isnt all about CPU no more than camera isnt all about mp count.

edit- I see you did mention graphics in the last para, so fair play. Therefore I assume you will know just how stupid it is to combine a decent i5 chip with the naff 3000HD integrated gpu. It throttles the whole system.

Ranting is very much my style :P Did go a bit over the top, sorry, now back to the topic at hand.

You're right, partially, it isn't all about the CPU but a heckuva lot of it is, you boot up Windows 7 and aero nudges the GPU just a tiny bit for 3D acceleration, considering when you haven't installed drivers yet it runs aero on a virtual GPU simulated on the CPU it's safe to say aero would be fast on just about anything. What next, maybe you load up Chrome, I'm afraid I don't have the default flag settings and I'm on a developer copy of it, but I'm pretty sure by default GPU accelerated web page rendering is off, either way it's 2D so doesn't need much. Music player and chat programs are usually CPU only.

Video decoding is tbh a bit of a mystery to me, my players use DXVA as most probably do because it's supported by both major GPU manufacturers, I can't find anything firm about whether Intel chips just use DXVA or not, it looks like support was 'getting better' by the end of 2011, might be fixed entirely by now. For lack of information, chalk that one up to the AMD side as it can just use the GPU and be fine.

Games definitely hit the GPU hard, hard enough for AMD's side to win that one outright. What else touches the GPU though? Photoshop does a little bit, again that's 2D so won't challenge anything... suggestions? I'm out of ideas.

So, the wins for an Intel chip at an equivalent price are: Web browsing, chat, music ('general usage')
For AMD: Games

Make your choice based on what you want a laptop to do.

(P.S I was considering one of these specifically because I wanted a laptop that would play games, at least until I realised that a £400 desktop would beat it by a long way, and I can do without games on the move)

Well, I did buy this for games (Railworks and Crysis mainly), Photoshop and videos. So that is why I see the graphics as more important than the CPU, not withstanding the fact that the A8 quad is a quite tasty cpu in and of its self.
Sure, there will be systems that beat it hands down, but at this price point? Bear in mind I paid quite a bit less for the refurb with the same warranty as bnib, so my opinion is based on a price point of £322 for the same system with no fancy box.
#34
kunyk
for OP: post load temps.

run Furmark for 20 mins for GPU and prime95 for 20 mins for CPU.

measure with HWMonitor.

What for? You can already see benchmarks for the GPU & CPU online. I don't use my laptop for heavy gaming, just for full HD video editing. I won't spend over 40 minutes of my time looking for software, installing them, and testing temperatures for something that does not concern me. I think it's more appropriate to ask this in PC enthusiast forums rather than here in HUKD.
1 Like #36

What are you going to use it for? For just browsing the web and doing word processing, even netbooks can do it well nowadays. I guess this laptop will be for people who want a bigger screen than a netbook as it won't do well with heavy games because of the integrated video card. It's up to you if you care about the brand of the laptop and the processor, but if it's for just word processing and web browsing in a bigger screen, even the cheapest 15.6" laptop from PC World will suffice.



Edited By: gx3k on Jul 09, 2012 11:03: update
#37
gx3k
kunyk
for OP: post load temps.

run Furmark for 20 mins for GPU and prime95 for 20 mins for CPU.

measure with HWMonitor.

What for? You can already see benchmarks for the GPU & CPU online. I don't use my laptop for heavy gaming, just for full HD video editing. I won't spend over 40 minutes of my time looking for software, installing them, and testing temperatures for something that does not concern me. I think it's more appropriate to ask this in PC enthusiast forums rather than here in HUKD.

Basically he wants to know if it'll overheat/hurt your crotch when being used heavily, a quick Google search didn't throw up any temperature readings but considering the two main chips together are rated for 80W and this is a cheap laptop it's most likely going to run hot. Not anything to worry about for normal usage but if you're gaming you'll want to keep it propped up on a desk.
#38
I haven't come across a laptop since maybe Pentium 3 that could truly be sat on your lap and not burn your legs. I had a P4 3.4ghz that ran hotter than alpha centauri.
As 'notebooks' go, this doesnt really run too hot at all in normal use. But I wouldn't really recommend anything other than a netbook for lap top use. You can buy a heat dispelling 'seat' to sit it on, and put that on your lap.
#39
Hey guys just bought this laptop yesterday from currys/pcworld , so far so good, the screen is really good quality and doesn't get hot unlike my MSI GT760, laptop is quiet and i am a massive gamer and wanted a cheap gaming laptop so far i have ran these games (at native res as going any higher it definatley would not handle).

DOTA 2 - 30fps (running better than my i7 gaming laptop V.V)
MW3 - around 30fps
Skyrim - Has to be on low but you get 27fps which is decent and runs quite smooth
Counter Strike Source + Global Offensive - High everything @ 100+ fps - Global Offensive Medium - 45FPS
League of Legends - 60+ high everything

So far brilliant gaming laptop for the price, i have my desktop at home which is a monster but thats for my development work and demanding games, just for low graphics games or just to play a game and your not bothered about quality this laptop should run them really well, going to try a few more games and post videos for you all.

Best purchase so far!
#40
I was encoding 2 HD movies at the same time yesterday while watching another HD movie and running Kingdom Rush TD flash game in the background and I never saw any sort of stuttering. The temperature did not get too hot and there were no loud noises so I was very pleased with the performance.

I wasn't really planning on buying a laptop but my Samsung R70 died on me so i didn't have any choice. At that time i searched for a laptop that is an upgrade from the dual core Intel and Nvidia graphics in the Samsung and i didn't have much cash to spend so i went for this. So far so good, I'm impressed with the upgrade in specs and even if they say Intel is better for everyday tasks and AMD is only good in games, I say I don't see any difference as this laptop surpasses any Intel laptop I've used before both in gaming and everyday usage.


Edited By: gx3k on Jul 10, 2012 09:40

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