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Dabs £215.02
Quidco -£ 6.97 (4%)
HP C/B -£100.00

Total= £108.05 Now Plus delivery


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http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo/proliantmicroserver/index.html?jumpid=ex_r135_uk/en/smb/tsg/go_proliantmicroserver

Video Review of unit:
http://www.techhead.co.uk/video-hp-proliant-microserver-hands-on-review

Tech Spec;
http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_na/13716_na.html#Technical%20Specifications

At A Glance

* Processor:
o AMD Athlon™ II NEO N36L
o AMD RS785E/SB820M chipset
* Memory:
o Two (2) DIMM slots
o 1GB (1x1GB) Standard/8GB Maximum, using PC3-10600E DDR3 Unbuffered (UDIMM) ECC memory, operating at max. 800MHz
* Storage Controller:
o Embedded AMD SATA controller with RAID 0, 1
o Embedded AMD eSATA controller
* Storage Drive Support:
o 4 Internal HDD Support
o Maximum internal SATA storage capacity of up to 8.0TB (4 x 2TB 3.5" SATA drives)
* Network Controller:
o Embedded NC107i PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Server Adapter
* Expansion Slots:
o Slot 1: PCI-Express Gen 2 x16 connector with x16 link
o Slot 2: PCI-Express Gen 2 x1 connector with x1 Link
o Slot 2-2: PCI-Express x4 slot for optional management card
* USB 2.0 Ports:
o Seven (7) USB 2.0 ports: 4 front , 2 rear, 1 internal (for tape)
* Power Supply:
o 150 Watts Non-Hot Plug, Non Redundant Power Supply
* Management:
o Optional MicroServer Remote Access Card
* Operating System:
o Supports Windows and Red Hat Linux
* Form Factor:
o Ultra Micro tower
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#1
You don't get an OS with this.
#2
withabix
You don't get an OS with this.


Use FreeNas / Linux or your old XP license
#3
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.
#4
rnem170
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.


Use the on board pci-e and add your own (Raid 0 1 on amd chip-set built in)
#5
Could i store all itunes media on here for streaming to a macbook and apple tv?
With a RAID1, 4 x 1TB drives so 2TB storage. (or maybe even 4 x 2TB - 4TB storage)
#6
ynot
Could i store all itunes media on here for streaming to a macbook and apple tv?

Yes
#7
rnem170
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.
Bowler_man
Use the on board pci-e and add your own (Raid 0 1 on amd chip-set built in)
Cabling is a bit tight in there, unless you can find a SAS/SATA controller which take a miniSAS cable and use the factory cabling still.

Edited By: the_fbi on Dec 12, 2010 10:05
#8
the_fbi
rnem170
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.

Bowler_man
Use the on board pci-e and add your own (Raid 0 1 on amd chip-set built in)

Cabling is a bit tight in there, unless you can find a SAS/SATA controller which take a miniSAS cable and use the factory cabling still.

Good point, you could always use the ESATA off the back to a 5 Bay Raid 5 box but that would double the expense
#9
rnem170
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.
Bowler_man
Use the on board pci-e and add your own (Raid 0 1 on amd chip-set built in)
the_fbi
Cabling is a bit tight in there, unless you can find a SAS/SATA controller which take a miniSAS cable and use the factory cabling still.
Bowler_man
Good point, you could always use the ESATA off the back to a 5 Bay Raid 5 box but that would double the expense
I'm pretty sure the eSATA doesn't support port multiplier although I've not tried that yet.

On the positive side, the inbuilt lan chip is pretty impressive, giving better throughput than Intel/Broadcom server chips, sustaining 80+mb/sec over 10GB ftp transfers. iSCSI performance should be very good.
1 Like #10
Looks like a terribly flawed product, but it's hot because of the price.

Edited By: SUMMONER on Dec 12, 2010 13:04
#11
Can this be used to set up something like Linux on, then run Sabnzbd and Sickbeard etc and then share to the Revo?
#12
This is cheaper than the last one posted here, a page ago!


GUYS, CHECK THE PREVIOUS THREAD FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS MAJORITY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED


http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/hp-proliant-microserver-it247-com-2/820575#comments
1 Like #13
The best setup in my opinion would be linux with software raid in the OS. The advatantage is mdadm is portable to another linux system. This is handy is the mobo fries or something. If you went with onboard raid from a SATA card, it'll more than likely be FakeRaid unless the card costs £100+. Fakeraid is not worth the trouble it causes.
the_fbi
rnem170
ok, but doesn't support Raid 5 on the mobo.

Bowler_man
Use the on board pci-e and add your own (Raid 0 1 on amd chip-set built in)

the_fbi
Cabling is a bit tight in there, unless you can find a SAS/SATA controller which take a miniSAS cable and use the factory cabling still.

Bowler_man
Good point, you could always use the ESATA off the back to a 5 Bay Raid 5 box but that would double the expense

I'm pretty sure the eSATA doesn't support port multiplier although I've not tried that yet.

On the positive side, the inbuilt lan chip is pretty impressive, giving better throughput than Intel/Broadcom server chips, sustaining 80+mb/sec over 10GB ftp transfers. iSCSI performance should be very good.
#14
voted COLD - search on eBay and you'll find it for £146 brand new.
#15
clsss
voted COLD - search on eBay and you'll find it for £146 brand new.


But you won't be able to claim the cashback, meaning you'll pay more in the end.
#16
Bottom line - allot of hardware from a big name for a ton.

You can't really gripe. Heat from me.
#17
Ordered - thanks
#18
clsss
voted COLD - search on eBay and you'll find it for £146 brand new.


I can't see cheaper than £234 on ebay.co.uk.

I'd get this purely as a great priced proper NAS box with RAID 5, but already have a decent server.

Also echo a previous poster - don't use the fakeraid, stick Linux on it and use mdadm. Even better is to run the OS from a USB stick for speed and power reasons as the array can then spin down when it's not being accessed.

Hot price!
#19
Is it possible to use non-ECC memory with these?
#20
0 in stock
#21
apparently so but you have to remove the heatsinks? check out link, second from last post.

i was gonna invest in some of the cheap RAM posted earlier but i'm not sure if it willl fit.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1555868&page=3

can someone confirm?

Edited By: CurlyFryz on Dec 12, 2010 18:52
#22
Hi,
I have a few quick questions and would be grateful if I could get a response.
I need a solution for a problem, I have alot of data spread and usually need to access them from work and other places,
1) Would this be able to be accessed locally at home and via the internet?
2) What RAID method would I able to use on this to mirror files? RAID 1?
3) Which OS would you recommend for a novice that would allow such set up?
#23
bjussab
Hi,
I have a few quick questions and would be grateful if I could get a response.
I need a solution for a problem, I have alot of data spread and usually need to access them from work and other places,
1) Would this be able to be accessed locally at home and via the internet?
2) What RAID method would I able to use on this to mirror files? RAID 1?
3) Which OS would you recommend for a novice that would allow such set up?


According to this:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1555868

... the latest FreeNAS supports it absolutely fine. I'd use RAID 5 with 4 drives (for data security as you can lose a drive and still have all your data)

You can run FreeNAS from a USB stick or even from a fifth hard drive in the DVD slot :)

re. accessing it remotely - you need to port forward on your router and open up the correct service on freenas. It's no difference on this box to any other, but feel free to ask me if you've any more questions.
#24
Theres a common misconception about raid and it's uses. It is designed for high availability not for high reliability. It does not mean you can get away without making backups ! All RAID systems make the whole storage system less reliable. To make a storage sytem more reliable you need multiple backups. To ensure integrity from corruption or tampering, hashing is recommended. For archival purposes, transfer to newer media is essential, especially when there is a change of technology, i.e. from ESDI to ATA to SCSI to SAS etc.

Bottom line, forget RAID, use backups, external USB2/3 eSATA hard drives are great for this purpose.


Edited By: fsa on Dec 12, 2010 19:52
#25
fsa
Theres a common misconcpetion about raid and it's uses. It is designed for high availability not for high reliability. It does not mean you can get away without making backups ! All RAID systems make the whole storage system less reliable. To make a storage sytem more reliable you need multiple backups. To ensure integrity from corruption or tampering, hashing is recommended. For archival purposes, transfer to newer media is essential, especially when there is a change of technology, i.e. from ESDI to ATA to SCSI to SAS etc.

Bottom line, forget RAID, use backups, external USB2/3 eSATA hard drives are great for this purpose.


ALL RAID systems make the storage system less reliable?

I understand your point with striping, but mirroring?

BTW I bit and bought one of these just now as a offsite backup machine :)
#26
Cold. Been £212.82 (base price subtract for voucher code + quidco) on IT247. Showing as zero in stock.

SeanySeanSean type Microserver into eBay search, buy it now you can't miss it, 5 available 1 sold.

Basically the microserver is a cheap PC box which you can use for server software making it more than a NAS although there is a blur between the two these days.
#27
http://www.it247.com/product/1/COMSUK23/612275-421-HP-ProLiant-MicroServer-Dual-Core-1-3Ghz-AMD-Athlon-II.html

2.5% off MYVWIN25

total £212.07

then £100 cash back from HP

830 in stock
#28
seanyseansean
[quote=fsa]

ALL RAID systems make the storage system less reliable?

I understand your point with striping, but mirroring?

BTW I bit and bought one of these just now as a offsite backup machine :)



Raid is a redundancy solution not a backup solution, raid doesn't protect you from human error, file corruption, viruses etc
#29
I think I might bite the bullet and get this as well! Going off the other deal £113 + £65 for a Sammy F4. £178 rounded up for a mini server will also pop in my 1TB drive I have at home! Is there anything else I can get for cheaper or better than this? Probs will stick unRaid or Ubuntu Server on it.
#30
Chaos
seanyseansean
[quote=fsa]

ALL RAID systems make the storage system less reliable?

I understand your point with striping, but mirroring?

BTW I bit and bought one of these just now as a offsite backup machine :)



Raid is a redundancy solution not a backup solution, raid doesn't protect you from human error, file corruption, viruses etc


I understand exactly what it is, I work with high availability systems every day for a telecoms related company.

What i'm saying is that, yes, it's not a backup solution, but RAID can be more secure than normal data. RAID 5, or 1+0 or whatever, protect you from a drive failure. Hence the idea to me they're always 'less' secure is nonsense.

Edited By: seanyseansean on Dec 12, 2010 20:10
#31
exStudent
I think I might bite the bullet and get this as well! Going off the other deal £113 + £65 for a Sammy F4. £178 rounded up for a mini server will also pop in my 1TB drive I have at home! Is there anything else I can get for cheaper or better than this? Probs will stick unRaid or Ubuntu Server on it.


Personally i'm going to put a stripped ubuntu server on it with only SSH exposed to the internet. I can then backup machines to it with rsync over SSH and grab files with WinSCP etc.

It's a bargain compared to most NAS units.
#32
scuse my ignorance but can you have your hard drives spin down?/power down whilst not transferring data using one of these gizmos as I know absolutely nowt about raid but I desperately need to get all my data in 1 or 2 places & currently thinking about lashing out on a drobo fs but it costs a gint & then unsure whether to go straight for 4 x 2tb new drives or use a mixture of 1 & 1.5tb drives I have now.
HELP PLEASE
1 Like #33
biggallute
scuse my ignorance but can you have your hard drives spin down?/power down whilst not transferring data using one of these gizmos as I know absolutely nowt about raid but I desperately need to get all my data in 1 or 2 places & currently thinking about lashing out on a drobo fs but it costs a gint & then unsure whether to go straight for 4 x 2tb new drives or use a mixture of 1 & 1.5tb drives I have now.
HELP PLEASE


Running most Linux operating systems the drives will spin down. It depends on the drive, but most do for 'green' reasons. You can also use a boot CD with some drives to enter a special utility to set them to green or 'acoustic' mode, but they might slow down.

Remember to put your OS on a seperate drive, or a USB stick, as writing log files will constantly be waking the RAID array otherwise.
#34
So better to stick the OS on the supplied 160GB drive? What OS do you think is better for using as a download manager and feeding the media to XBMC and to PC/Laptop?
#35
Does anyone's invoice contain something about the voucher code? If so, the £100 cash back may not be redeemable...
#36
got to say if i hadn't just bought s similar unit from intel i would be all over this. Awesome deal!
#37
Anyone know if this will work with non-ECC memory?
#38
availible @ it247 for same prive, use code MYVWIN25 for 2.5% off, plus quidco @ 1.5% quidco.

£3.99 delivery plus the £100 cashback from them.

nice price, this one from it247 comes with 1 gig ram and 1 160gig hdd as well ;)

for the cash well worth it.
#39
Ah, more decent answers here: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1555868
#40
anyone know if a graphics card can fit in this?

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